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>> paul: kim, that's a jobs ad aimed at iowa and a lot of money to put behind the plans. and is that the perry strategy, well, i don't maybe want to participate in all the future debates? is he going to have a big tv campaign now? >> he's got 17 million dollars to throw into this. yeah, this is what he's going to do. the debates have not been his strong point of the so what you're seeing is him coming out with big bold ideas and trying to define himself in key places like iowa and trying to do that telling the story he's wanted to do since he got into the race is he's a job creator and that's going to inspire some criticism and pushback from the other candidates and there's going to be a lot of looking into the record in texas and some things he's going to have to explain and that's going to be one of his strong points. >> can he dodge the debates, kim or is that going to hurt his campaign if he does? >> i don't know if he can totally dodge them. he made a good point. he pointed out what everybody feels, the problem with a lot of the debates, the only thing

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