>> a christian pastor, that man right there in iran sentenced to death for refusing to renounce his religious belief. they're christian. now political leaders around the world are condemning the conviction and asking for his immediate release. >> so what will it do to convince iran to let this guy go? >> we're joined by jim walsh, an iranian expert who has been involved with the prisoner release there and research associate at mit's securities study program. good morning to you, jim. >> good morning. >> so this is a story about a guy who is raised in iran, his family muslim but at the age of 19, he converted to christianity and he's brought up on charges. wait a minute, you can't be a christian here. you have to renounce your christianity. he wouldn't do it and now he's been sentenced to death. >> yeah. and he's also part of a broader network of home churches, christian churches in iran and then when he was arrested, he didn't go through the normal