idea, if one of the current contenders drops out, who would benefit? let's talk about the poll that looks at, if we had newt gingrich out, which most people think he won't leave, but if you look at the numbers, there is a 6 of point gap between romney and santorum, if gingrich gets out, that closes to a 4-point gap. newt gingrich argues. but do you think that rick santorum will convince newt to get out. >> if newt can't win illinois and right now, they're neck and neck -- >> shannon: you mean santorum. >> no. i am talking about newt, in terms of getting out. romny and santorum -- romney is ahead 5 points in illinois. i can't imagine why he is going to stay -- he is not winning any states. so i don't understand the point of why he would stay in. nobody's in the business of telling newt what to do. but i really think -- and with