against ted cain gnaw de he said, and i -- ted kennedy he said and i quote, we will seek to establish full equality for america's gay and lesbian citizens and i will provide more effective leadership than any opponent. now so many years later he is going on the defensive marriage act which effectively changes the constitution to put an amendment in there saying men cannot marry other men. >> all politicians politicians are political. >> was he lying or evolving on that issue? >> you have to use the same material. obama is going to have trouble trouble -- you know, maybe he won't. maybe he will be able to call romney a flip-flopper and keep using evolving on his side. all of these guys are evolving. >> i just don't want devolving. >> and i want to make clear, my parents didn't have a store where they wouldn't allow black people. >> think about romney's position now which is i
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