i think paul ryan will have a great night. but i think we underestimate joe bide by. the pressure is on him to clean up the strike out in denver joe bidens had to sal vage the team. i think he will surprise people and be better than republicans are prepared for. we'll see and we'll be honest and tell you what happens next week. >> thank you very much. alice and jake to have you here. >> president's campaign and trying to make up by the debate debacle by fighting back with attack ads. frank will tell us when we