cost, how much an mri cost. instead we have a temperature that all of it feeds together with physicians who are afraid of malpractice, afraid of being sued and so many tests are being ordered. on the patient side they don't know what they are getting and on the doctor side they are afraid not to order it. what do you say about that? >> of all the countries in the world, we -r9 ones that have a big problem with malpractice. so what is it here that isn't everywhere else? the trial lawyers association. special interest groups. anything in our society that comes out of washington that doesn't make sense is attached to a special interest group. they become, as i alluded to in the speech, the fourth branch of government. until we deal with that we will keep doing things that don't make sense. >> dr. carson, i want to thank you for your leadership. do know the black liberal establishment is not going to be happy but. and i'm talking about the community activists, some of the