perpetuates this faux feminist narrative it makes it very difficult even forever those who want to get out there and support these women and the attacks against them to be effective. abby: wendy, what do you think about that you have an easier time forgiving someone or letting it slide by if you disagree with the joke or making fun of them in some way. >> i don't think it's about feminism and speaking up. i think it's whether you sit on the left side or right side of the aisle. whenever an individual is attacked you should speak up. we shouldn't politicize this because right is right and wrong is wrong. however what i do want to make sure we keep at the forefront of this conversation is the white house has not always been very friendly to people outside of the white house either. at the end of the day, when you are looking at this and look at there this from a top down model. if we want citizens to make sure that they speak kindly about individuals in the white house, i would say to the white house, make sure you speak kindly. abby: melania has. a lot of people have been speculating and making comments where she has been. they had to so much talk