in framing republican does the deplorable. this is what hillary clinton ran on. this is the democrats and for that matter -- >> does it predate republicans republicans -- [inaudible] >> you can go back to the way they treated george w. bush as well. a lot of hatred they are, but honestly i was talking with micro friend today and she said it used to be every four years we'd elect a president have potential to be unhappy unhappy and then we would move on. half the country was so unhappy the last time around that they haven't been able to move on. this is lasted longer than the aftermath of september 11th when it comes to traumatizing half of the country and they're going quite not. >> mike allen said it's going to get worse before it gets better. there seems to be this tribalism on both sides. would you agree with that? look back to 2012. vice president biden wanted to drop a bakery called crom and