but there was a john wayne from waterloo. she got it mixed pup. that is john wayne gacey, a killer clown. a serial killer that killed 33 boys. not something you brag about. >> let's talk about her chances now. joining me, michelle goldburg, senior contributing writer for the daily beast and news week. one of her recent articles is bachmann's unrivalled extremism. michelle, let me start with you then. unrivalled extremist, right? talk to me. you saw the clips we showed. there is the crazy story of hiding in the bushes. what else you got? >> i think the clips you showed, although they might seem crazy to us. to the country and vast ma are the jort of her base, those are not only noncontroversial, though statements are truisms. >> really, you want to be in a room with carbon dioxide and see how that turns out? >> of course not.