ancie ancient greeks. but they protected the institution of marriage as a union between one man and one woman. they got the joke and the american people get the joke. >> you heard the argument. i wish you were more -- you are an optimist, ross. i hope you're right. ross levi and thank you, ken bla blackwell. when we return, let me finish with one simple question. why should we reward the people who got us into the economic mess we're in now? why reward the bad guys? you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. new newtons fruit thins. real cranberries and cranberry citrus oat... crispy whole grain. newtons fruit thins, one unique cookie.