the buffett rule? >> luke, the president, again, has made it really clear that we need to have a broad conversation about reforming the tax codes and the buffett rule is just one measure in that kfgs, and the kind of deep dive we have to do on that front. but it is an intrinsically important one, and it points out the disparities that we have in our society right now. and when you consider that over the course of the last few decades, as billionaires have taken advantage of our code, have hired accountants and lawyers to kind of game the system to their advantage, while the incomes of average of americans have gone down and their tax rates have gone up, i think that most of your viewers would agree that this is an important conversation to be having right now. >> yesterday an adviser to the dnc, hillary rosen said that mitt romney and ann romney's wife never necessarily had a real job. that caused a very massive