>> i love the opportunity of letting people see a side of mitt that often people have mischaracterized. >> what side is that? >> that as stiff. he's not. he's funny. there's a wild and crazy man inside of there. >> he kept -- the look on your face, jonathan, it's the -- he's not stiff. ha, ha, ha, ha. he's a while man, ha, ha, ha ha. let's talk about that a little bit. >> i understand that -- and i've seen it with my own eyes -- a poll significance on television and public sitting is is stiff, wooden, uninteresting, uncharismatic, the minute behind doors, the true person comes out. why can't you translate that from here to there? mitt romney, all i've ever seen is what i see on tv what i see on tv uninspiring, uncharismatic? do i think he has it went him to be a wild and crazy guy, sure?