they're going to close the schools, cut the nurses. how do we reconcile these two sides of it? >> it's interesting. you were saying it seems as though the same people who were nashing their teeth and saying save the children are now the same people saying we can't close these schools, we have to rush to the frontlines and support the students and the teachers. it's interesting that those two things are happening at the same time. it has been amazing. response to save the schools. 127 people were arrested in march just last week, 2,000 people were occupying city hall. there's always been a resistance to closing the schools an it's always been a coalition efforts. it's interesting considering chicago is an incredibly gentrified city. that's not reflective in the resistance to the closings. >> you've been a governor and a mayor of a predominantly inner city in richmond that had all of the challenges that come along with it. when i hear the philly budget story or the chicago budget