chemical weapons again. we also have a core national security interest, making sure those chemical stockpiles don't fall into the hands of al qaeda or al nushah when the assad regime falls and a limited strike doesn't go to that core concern. it may deter and degrade his capability of using them but it doesn't resolve what happens to them at the end of the regime. but placing these under u.n. inspecti inspection, control and destruction, if that can be accomplished, could meet that core national security interest. so i think it should be vigorously pursued. >> we're looking at general dempsey right now. he has said previously that it could be tens of thousands of troops. there's been estimates there could be more than 75,000 ground troops to secure syria's chemical weapon. this is not as simple as a small team of inspectors and rounding these things up. >> it certainly isn't simple, you're right. but i'll tell you one thing that may come out of this. if it can be successful. in order to try and secure these sites, in order to get u.n.