>> and karen hughes? extraordinarily important position. in the past, i talked to both of those leaders and your position, talking about how hand-fisted the united states had been in the past in its efforts to reach out to especially young students across the world. very quickly explain what this very important position is and how you plan to expand on the work of karen hughes and margaret -- >> thank you for teeing me up, joe. public diplomacy is helping to explain american policy around the world and basically to americans as well. public affairs as you know is our outreach to the media and so it has those two tiers, including educational and affairs with the exchange students and then there is also a countering violent extremism to the job. there are many acronyms in the state department, by the way. but part of the idea is to actually think about public
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