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genuinely in a tight spot here, he wants to keep ukraine in the russian orbit. he doesn't want ukraine to go the way of poland and the west. and so this is -- this is more than an inconvenience for him. this sort of thwarted that whole effort in a lot of ways because it is kind of hardened the opposition certainly of european countries and the united states and the war community against this notion that putin can get away with this through intimidation, i think you'll likely see more closeness between the government in kiev and european capitals and the u.s. than you would have seen otherwise had this not happened. so i think, it seems to me that it's time for putin to change tack in some way if he wants to get what i think it is he wants. >> susan, you mentioned the

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