that radically changed gay rights in america. on the day it was decided, president obama phoned in to msnbc to speak to california couples that challenge the prop 8 case. [ inaudible ] >> so the chief justice professor of constitutional law at tnyu school of law. he joins me. explain the kinds of questions heard inside the court especially from justice kennedy. >> i think you're exactly right to focus on justice kennedy. it was clear there were four justices in favor of it. he is going to end up being the swing vote. it was hard for me to focus on justice kennedy given it was an epic argument and the religious