to people whether it's in the city of milwaukee or whether it's in the northwest corner of wisconsin, when we're doing that talking and when we're communicating our message of opportunity inclusion, hope, and optimism, that's whe we win, and we fell short onthat, and that's why we have to redouble our investments in organizing. >> tom perez, former labor secretary and current candidate for dnc chair, thank you for joining us. >> it's always a pleasure to be with you. >> thank you. this is the cover of this weekend's edition of the "washington post" magazine. kellyanne conway, they never saw this coming. conway, also the focus of a "new yorker" article on newsstands. a lot of attention for one of the presidential most important cou counselors. is that a good thing? we'll ask our political panel, after this break. when played backwards at 1/8th speed you can clearly hear...