are we talking about 5% to 10% of this effort is publicly known? >> i think that's a fair guess. i don't know how much is visible above the water and how much is below the water. i can tell you most of it is below the water. >> robert costa, is the president to your knowledge happy with his team? do you think he's going to see the need for a wartime consulier on this? >> the president, i'm told, by many of his confidants in washington are aware that many of the white house show lawyers in washington because of legal complications or different relationships they have or perhaps they're just busy have avoided joining ft.'s legal team. so he's built a relationship with cobb and has confidence with cobb because they believe they do have a channel to mueller and his team. they have relationships with that group going back decades. at the same time, there is an element on the hard right in the trump base who's yearning for more of an aggressive posture when it comes to this probe.