will be so scandalous, it will free him from the russian investigation once and for all. joining us is the reporter that broke the news. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having us. >> you report that the trump came pain sa campaign said it was unaware that he had already had past dealings with u.s. counterintelligence over his dealings with russia. is this a new detail that we're learning from the trump campaign folks? >> this is a new detail. i think what's important to remember about carter page is that he was someone who was brought on to the campaign at a time when they were under an enormous amount of pressure to show who was advising the president or the candidate at that point on national security and foreign policy matters. so trump in 2016 announced carter page along with about five other people as the -- group advising him on those