>> not at all. it is a yes or no answer. yesterday all i heard was a nominee giving evasive, scripted answers and a nominee and an agency who are doing their utmost to minimize her role in order to get her confirmed. >> mr. rizzo, one more question to you on this same topic. the republicans say it's just not possible to find somebody more qualified at the cia who wasn't involved in any way with torture. or with the enhanced interrogation program, if that's how you would like to define it. is that fair to say? there's no one else at the cia who can run the cia, that's qualified to do it, that doesn't have this mark on their record? >> no, i wouldn't say that. hundreds of people during the course of the seven-year period were involved in the program in one way or another. so it was a good chunk of the