messaging from the president and his folks on the ground. do you agree? >> i'm going to agree with my friend mark. >> okay. >> i think we have here -- the president is saying something that's true. >> he said isis is defeated. >> as a territory-holding force that's true. then you have the coalition, which has a longer view and is still concerned about isis as a terrorist threat to the region and wants to essentially pound them into nothingness, until they are no longer even a terrorist threat. but they are no longer the ground-holding caliphate that we saw several years ago. >> the president's discussion of isis in syria and the coalition-led strike now, does it signal to you, what you have seen from the coalition, things have not changed as of as the president said? >> if and when the troops withdraw from sear yayria, it w a change. we can see them doing this, carrying on this coalition