chinese government officials come and meet not at trump tower. they conducted transition business with chinese government officials at the headquarters of kushner companies at the same time. i don't think anyone thinks that looks remotely okay. >> another point in the book you mention john kelly's transition to become chief of staff. and you say there were conversations over a weekend between kelly, the president, gary cohn about kelly taking the job but also about the president wanting jared and ivanka out. >> yes. >> again because i watched your interview with george stephanopoulos you said call gary. i did. gary wasn't even in washington. he said he didn't have any of those conversations. >> look at the wording. look at the wording. it says gary cohn was involved. >> so if gary said he didn't have the conversations was he involved telepathically? >> gary knew about the conversations. there were three people in the room. so you know, i don't want to