dollar. latinas make 53 cents on the dollar. and this has got to end. >> harris's plan puts the responsibility on companies, any company who cannot prove that they way women at the same rate as men is going to have to pay a fine. the first 2020 candidate to make this issue a central focus of her campaign while harris argues that companies are the problem, a new report in new york here by "the new york times" says the real problem is culture and that america's obsession with long hours has widened the gender gap. i'm going to say amen to that. joining me now to weigh in, dear friends and mentors of mine, shelly zalles and tiffany defu, achieving more by doing less. tiffany, to you first, what do you think about kamala harris's plan, putting the responsibility on companies? this isn't saying to companies you have to pay everyone more and it's going to hit your bottom line, it's saying get