released, on october 8th, 2016, at approximately 7:20 p.m., cohen receives a call from hope hicks. 16 seconds into that call, trump joins it as a three way conference call and they talk for four minutes. here's where i think the legal issues arise. hope hicks reportedly said, i have no recollection of that call. now, that might make it sound like it's a he said/she said, with the he said being michael cohen saying, wait a minute. we had this three way call with, you know, soon-to-be president donald trump and discussed this blockbuster access hollywood tape and the implications of it for trump and the stormy daniels issue. and hope hicks tells federal investigators, i have no recollection. that i think gives hope hicks real legal exposure because it is no longer he said/she said. >> but, glenn, where and with whom? >> here is where. >> this information is new to you and i but not new to

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