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How the agency failed to act on multiple warnings about the Florida High School shooting suspect and the president s claim that the russia investigation got in the way. Plus, justice for innocent lives taken way too soon. Nikolas cruz appearing in court this afternoon, the latest on where the investigation stands right now. But President Trump is getting ready to depart palm beach florida en route back to washington d. C. As blame is mounting on the fbi after multiple signals were missed ahead of the Deadly Florida shooting. Blake burman live in d. C. With the very latest from the president , hi, blake. Hi lauren and President Trump over the weekend did not specifically mention Christopher Wray by name instead he talked about the institution as a whole , about this missed phone call from last month questioning why it was not forwarded along. The president tweeting over the weekend very sad that the fbi missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida School shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove russia collusion with the Trump Campaign and there is no collusion get back to the basics and make us all proud. Here at the white house today they were asked a spokesperson was and would not say whether or not they feel wray should resign which the Florida Governor rick scott has called for but the white house saying President Trump at this point is supportive at looking into sur ing up the federal background check system. You have the phone call to the fbi and so when youre looking at ways to fix this system you want to look at measures like fixing the background check system and also want to understand what broke down and allowed for this individual to go on unattended while other people were raising red flags . You saw in that tweet how the president brought up russian meddling there were multiple tweets over the weekend from the president about this in fact he just sent out another one in which he wrote obama was president up to and beyond the 2016 election so why didnt he do something about russian meddling . There are of course questions and criticisms about this president and how much he wants to do with the intelligence chief testified up on capitol hill last week they have not yet received a direct command from the president to look into russian meddling. David, lauren back to you. So much to look into blake at the white house thank you so much. Deirdre here to react to the fbi fallout, bill gavin, a former fbi assistant director. Bill it was friday we got that bombshell statement from the head of the miami unit of the fbi. Lets just listen to that and get your reaction. The fbi released a statement regarding information provided to our Public Access line on january 5 of this year. The caller provided information about nikolas cruz, the potential of him becoming a school shooter. Under protocol this information should have been provided to the miami field office. There appropriate steps would have been taken. The fbi has determined that protocol was not followed. Deirdre bill when you heard that, your heart must have sunk. It sure did, david, i was embarrassed, the fbi itself was embarrass, and there is no way to make up for that with the horror that occurred as a result of this young man killing all these people. Deirdre well bill specifically, if the call had been made to the miami bureau and if they had gone to investigate all this what would have happened . Could the shooting have been avoided . Thats very difficult to say, david. I dont know if it could have been avoided certainly if the lead went into the sic in miami and he sent agents out at least to talk to this individual to see what the problem was, go to the school talk to the school do they have a problem there talk to students that would have been done, but could they have obtained any kind of a search warrant . That would all be subject to vague ares of the United States Attorney Office down there to determine whether or not they had probable cause to look at his computers but the bottom line is it was a horrible event not to have been picked up by whoever is responsible at the center for receiving these tips, and not analyzing it and sending it out immediately to the fbi in miami. That was will be forever a sorrowfull for that and its out in the open we were transparent about it but that doesnt satisfy anything. Well Governor Scott says of course nothing will satisfy a horror like this but Governor Scott says the director of the fbi wray should be fired as a result of this, what do you think of that . I think thats probably a little bit overthetop. I understand the emotional aspect david but firing director wray over something that happened probably without i know without his knowledge and hes done everything to rectify it, im sure the appropriate measure s are in place and it doesnt happen again, they probably changed some of the protocol, but fire director wray just doesnt make sense to me. Now the president spoke to this and he kind of linked the shooting to the mueller investigation. I just want to put up a tweet that he put out this weekend ong many oerth he said very sad ttha the fbi misse all of the many signals st out by the florid shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove russian collusion with the Trump Campaign. There is no collusion. Are they distracted . Is the fbi distracted by the russia investigation . Im sure that the president of the United States fully understands that the 3700 or 37,000, a whole bunch of people in the fbi, im sure that he also realizes that there is no distraction from doing of the all of our investigations, all of the investigations in the fbi , it doesnt doing what theyre doing in conjunction with the collusion and with the Robert Mueller is not detracting from what they do on an every day basis but i fully understand what he has to say and why he said it. We always try to mention this , the fact that he got a bad shake over the past seven or eight years, its time that we stood up for leland despite these awful mistakes that were made that are in excusable i think somebody should pay overall the agency still does a good job. Its not an agency without any direction right now is it . Thanks, david i appreciate that kind and youre right it isnt. 99. 99 of the people are doing an outstanding job. When you have a horrible event like this, and somebody doesnt do the right job, it just exacerbates and magnifies the horror of the whole thing and there is no excuse. We often, i dont think the bureau is offering any excuse to a tone for this. It happened and it was wrong to happen and theyve been transparent about it and theyre doing everything to remedy it but what i think what we have to do as a country is determine how do we address this whole problem of mental instability among our citizens of this country. We have to do something. Youre so good you agreed to stick around we appreciate you being hearings bill, lauren . Well the tech titans are in focus the special counsel investigation into the russian meddling 2016 president ial election shedding light on the role of the biggest names in social media, Hillary Vaughn live in los angeles following that story for us, hi hillary so what is the latest . Hey lauren, well facebook was mentioned 41 times in this indictment but they werent the only tech Company Called out, twitter, youtube even pay pal listed in the 37page document so now social Media Companies are making changes to prep for the Midterm Election in 2017. Secretaries of states across the nation gathered in d. C. This weekend for their winter meeting to talk Election Security along with facebook, secretary of state dennis miller, denise merr il was the president during the 2016 election and she says voter fraud and hackers arent the biggest threat to Election Security. But its come through to me also that the biggest threat is not from any of this election process or cybersecurity issues. The biggest threat seems to be from the American Public believ ing the many false stories that were told out there during the last elections. Facebook director policy also attended that meeting telling Election Officials that facebook is cracking down on political ad buyers to make sure theyre living in the u. S. And at the heart of this big strategy, any ad buyer who wants to advertise in a federal rate will be mailed a postcard with a code they need to enter in order to make an ad buy and now while facebook is making changes their Vice President of ads pushing back on the idea that russian ads were a big player during the 2016 election goldman tweeting most of the coverage of russian meddling involves their attempt to affect the outcome of the 2016 election ive seen all the russian ads and i can say that swaying the election was not the main goal. He continues to say that the majority of russian ad spend happened after the election saying we shared that but very few outlets have covered it because it doesnt align with the main media narrative of trump at the election now twitter saying the fight against electionfocused propaganda is a shared responsibility and they think Law Enforcement needs to lead that charge. Lauren . Hillary vaughn thank you so much youve teed me up perfectly for bill gavin, who has been sticking around. Bill you just heard hillarys report. What can we done to make sure there is a strong likelihood that the russians meddling again in the midterms and of course 2020. What did Law Enforcement do . Lauren its a complex problem with a complex solution. First of all when mr. Goldman says it wasnt the main goal of the russians to interfere with an election, i guess you can see that it was a goal. When did he determine that it was a goal and what did he do about it . Thats a question thats still up in the air. And what can be done in the future, i think more attention from the social media, for social media itself for the leaders of the organization bringing those things that disturb them to the attention. Send them postcards everything, thats it is what it is but im not too sure its going to be totally effective to stop some perpetrator from doing what they want to do with ads still. They may say one thing and do another as many people do. Its an Old School Way to deal with a modern problem in essence and you can always get, you know, a fake local address anyhow. To get back to the point, i understand and i think the American People understand that any other country meddling in our political system to create discord is wrong and bad and a big deal, but if you can just perhaps quantify how big of a deal this is, and im asking in light of a couple of things. If you look at how much money these russianpaid actors spent on social media advertisements, were talking about thousands of dollars a month, where the campaigns whether it be the clinton or the Trump Campaign they spent almost 2. 5 billion, so how big of a deal is this in influencing our politics . You know, i think its very difficult to measure it. I dont know what the yardstick is that youd use to measure the influence that it has because its so subjective when it goes out overtheair and when it gets americans to participate in an ad campaign that they think originates in america, its very deceitful at worst and how much it influences i dont know but what i can say is that the investigation being conducted by mueller and the committee, it just goes to show what is being done, is the right thing to be done because they have issued subpoenas convened a grand jury and indicted a whole bunch of people in three corporations. If this had been done in other cases in particularly the server case with Hillary Clinton and it was left to agents to bring it before a grand jury convened by the United States attorney and subpoenas issued r for people to come and tell the truth, tell a lie or take the fifth we wouldnt be in the situation we are in today in terms of this whole with hillarys server so it just shows that when the right thing is done the right results will take effect. Noted. Noted and just going back to the social Media Companies for a moment here. Do you think educating the citizens will help in making sure that misinformation isnt spread so easily . I dont know how we would do that, you know, it would take one heck of an educational endeavor and i really dont know who would start there, where it would come from, who gets to be gored out of that kind of an educational process. Bill, thank you so much. My pleasure lauren thank you so much. And as ku see from that shot, thats from palm beach, they are preparing air force one for the president i believe one of those cars with the flags in the front has the president inside and he is embarking for a trip to washington d. C. Back to the white house. Cameras are kept a little further away than usual during this particular trip back home for the president. Meanwhile, a warning to President Trump on russia. Rush limbaughs words of caution to the commanderinchief why hes telling the president to be very careful while he tweets. Plus, the fall out on the Midterm Elections and the gop is setting on a secret weapon trying to can it tallize on the unpop you lauer it of nancy pelosi . Can the republicans hold on to the majority . And money for nothing how one u. S. City is getting ready to test something called universal basic north korea, hundreds of dollars handed out to citizens, just for being alive. Yea, so, moms got this cold stuffynose nosleep i got it. Mouthbreather yep, weve got a mouth breather. Well just put on a breathe right strip and. Pow it instantly opens your nose up to 38 more than Cold Medicine alone so you can breathe. And sleep. Go to breatheright. Com today to request a free sample. The worst thing he could do in his world is to validate this whole investigation by claiming victory here because what if down the road there is another indictment or a series of indictments that do name trump or do name the russians and Trump Campaign colluding because thats what this is about. This is about getting trump, chris. This whole thing is about setting trump up for impeachment if the democrats win in 2018, this donald trump remains in the crosshairs. He is the target and there is no letup in that. David a lot to unpack in that statement Rush Limbaugh warning President Trump not to claim victory offer special counsel Robert Muellers indictment of 13 russians released friday his indictment stated that there was and im quoting him now, mueller now, no allegation in this indictment that any american had any knowledge of Russian Election meddling. Here is john decker fox news radio White House Correspondent thanks for joining us on this holiday john. What do you think of Rush Limbaughs warning . Well he raises a really good point. The risk for the president , the risk for anybody on his team claiming that this mueller indictment which was announced on friday is a vindication of the entire investigation. I think puts the president and his team on a slippery slope, because as Rush Limbaugh points out in that sound bite that you just played its down the road. Mueller decides based upon evidence to indict the president or anybody close to the president on his team here at the white house. They already have the president on record saying that Robert Mueller as it relates to this indictment of these 13 russian nationals is doing a very good job. David yeah, but you know, what about the other point that rush makes that the brass ring for democrats is impeachment if they take over the house, of course the house can impeach its the senate that has to try and its a tougher road for democrats to take over the senate but if they take over the house theres going to be an impeachment what do you think . I have no doubt there are some members of the house even the senate that would very much like to bring articles of impeachment against this president , but you need something there. The constitution talks about high crimes and misdemeanors. Have we seen anything like that related to the president yet . No, we havent, but mr. Mueller continues his investigation. Remember, with bill clinton back in the 90s when the house brought articles of impeachment against bill clinton they had something to go on with the star investigation. There was some wrongdoing that mr. Star alleged took place on the part of the then president , namely lying under oath. Nothing like that has been brought by Robert Mueller yet against this president. David you know there was Something Else in the mueller indictment on friday that was kind of interesting it showed how deeply our investigative units whether it was the c cia or fbi were not sure a combination were investigating these russians long before the election itself. That led donald trump to tweet this out this afternoon. He said obama was president up to and beyond the 2016 election, so why didnt he do something about russian meddling . Hes got a point doesnt he . He does have a point youre already seeing some democrats raise exactly the same issue the president raised in this tweet including adam schiff whose the Ranking Member of the house intelligence committee. President obama perhaps should have done more, but i think he was ultimately very confident that Hillary Clinton was going to win the 2016 election, no need to go down that road and of course it was after the election that president obama imposed those tough sanctions on the russian government. David john very quickly one interesting thing is that more activity russian activity took place after the election, including by the way of protest at which Michael Moore was attending, so im wondering if Michael Moore is part of the russian collusion here . Well i dont know about that. I know youre making a joke. David im joking im joking. But as they point out in this indictment people that were cooperating with the russians were cooperating with the individuals. You can put Michael Moore in that category. David john decker, good to see you my friend. Thanks a lot david. Lauren we do have breaking news at this moment air force one is taking off from palm beach florida after the president spent the weekend in maralago. The president making his way back to the white house after, well not only did he celebrate the Holiday Weekend he did send several tweets. Weve been covering throughout the hour. David he doesnt vacation easily does he . Meanwhile protecting our Nuclear Codes new report detailing an argument over whats called the Nuclear Football during President Trumps visit to china what the secret service is saying about it now retired Lieutenant General Thomas Mcinerney joining us coming up plus the suspected Florida Shooter appearing in Court Earlier today. We have a live update from parkland coming next. Liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night, so he got home safe. 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Reporter this is really the first look that we got at the shooter live in court, 19yearold nikolas cruz, five foot seven just 130 pounds, he looks in the red jump suit reserved for the most violent offenders, his arms and ankles were shackled but this is the man suspected of firing off more than 100 rounds on wednesday in less than three minutes killing 17 people, 14 students three administrators and wounding more than a dozen. He has been in solitary confinement and also been on suicide watch according to the sheriff here. They have is on him at all times so far, his public defender says he is likely to plead guilty to 17 counts of first degree murder this the Attorney Says would be an attempt to try and avoid the death penalty. As far as the mood and the situation on the streets, it is really a mix. On the one hand there is funeral after funeral. Four yesterday, three today, two more tomorrow, and around those are often viewings or wakes, so some students are simply too stunned by what has happened to really make sense of it but others are moving forward and moving forward politically trying to harness or channel some of that anger and grief. There have been a number of anti gun rallies over the weekend with more to come. Some of the survivors of the attack plan to lead a Major National demonstration for gun control in washington on march 24. Lauren and david back to you. Lauren we just saw the images there and it really just puts it all in perspective, keith thank you very much. David so nice work if you dont have to actually work for it. One california town is about to test something called universal basic income, have you heard about this . How will the experiment actually play out. Also, republicans are constantly feuding with nancy pelosi, so why are they now thanking her . 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The campaign on for the house gop was actually cheering her on today. Lauren thanks, nancy here to react, conservative comentator as well as former Obama Campaign regional field director good to see both of you. Good to be here. Thank you so much. Lauren robin is this a good strategy to basically weaponize nancy pelosi . If i were a republican strategist i think its the best strategy. Her name is basically enough to the right and even to some moderates like myself and you know the republicans have really effectively used her name right here im from atlanta, georgia and we sunk the campaign by linking him to pelosi they were never even in the same room together but commercial after commercial after commercial calling him a pelosi democrat and that worked. Lauren what do you think kristin . Well, i mean i tend to agree with robin. Thats fascinating. Lauren wow. But it was really a serious miss calculation on the part of the Democratic Party as well as nancy pelosi to do that eight hour speech and then even previous to be apart of shutting down the government. Whenever the government shuts down even though it was not for a very long time still the party to blame very much was perceived throughout the media as the democrats fault and obviously she is the leader of the of opposition party. The interesting thing her Favorability Ratings are relatively low but really what matters more when you come to the president the midterms are the president ial Approval Ratings and weve seen those continue to go up but i will say final word here is that a lot can happen between now and november, but especially in this cycle. Lauren the president has anyway indicative of the future this will continue. And a lot of folks on both sides of the aisle say shes so disconnected, i mean if you think of all of the crumbs comments that she made about the tax cuts and bonuses, saying oh, just crumbs, you know, donald trump tweeted this one of his many tweets. Great polster, now has the gop up in the generic congressional ballot. Big gain over last four weeks. I guess people are loving the big tax cuts giving them by the republicans, the cuts, the dems want to takeaway, we need more republicans, so robin if youre a democrat and the tax cut and the stimulus is getting more popular, how do you campaign against that . Its a tough one, the only thing that i can say is that democrats are pointing out the disparity that of course the bulk of the tax cuts went to the upper brackets and you saw paul ryan recently brag about the lady who was saving 1. 50 a week on her paycheck, so you know, well try and nuance that and point out the disparity there but the point is that people like nancy pelosi you know her net worth is somewhere around 29. 3 million, so for her to call that crumbs, shes just the wrong messenger for that and you mentioned that shes maybe out of touch. Well shes from california. Shes a liberal from california so i tend to agree with you. Lauren i want to get this in too, Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell told the New York Times somewhat of a change of heart and he was more optimistic earlier this year he now expects republicans to lose seats in the house and senate. Why do you think that is . Well historically every single Midterm Election the party in power will lose seats so its just a function of politics and also hes probably being cautious because being the Senate Majority leader understanding his very public position he has to obviously set lower expectations so that when they do come out and possibly gain seats he can celebrate. Lauren just to be fair here he did point out the fundraising obstacle that the Gop Senate Candidates in key states where theyre up against democratic incumbents the gop candidates are struggling look at the difference in the numbers over 2 million to 700,000. Kristin, robin thank you so much , good to see both of you and for a long day kristin you were on with us earlier this morning. Thanks lauren. David good people there and while some Business Networks are taking the day off did you notice if you did notice and youre watching the wrong channel because fox business is open for business all day. By the way last week the market pessimists took a beating because the s p 500 had its best week in more than five years so lauren whats interesting, you mentioned the news cycles. Last week, everybody at the beginning of the week was saying oh, my god possess a mix in wall street its just going to last for, you know, down cycle right now but i think anything could happen in the week to come. Lauren its funny because we have the best week in five weeks and before that we had the worst week in two years, so the worst week in two years followed by the best week in five years, this is the rollercoaster that were talking about. David whats happening with markets is exactly whats happening with washington and Everything Else the news cycles are just you never know from daytoday whats going to happen next. Lauren and it moves to 401 k . 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Military aid carrying the Nuclear Codes was being blocked from following President Trump into chinas great hall during the president s trip there in november when chief of staff kelly heard about it he approached the chinese guard in a shoving match ensued leading to the usa being allowed into the great hall. The secret service trying to soften the incident tweeted out fact check reports about secret Service Agents tackling a host nation official during the president s trip to china in november 2017 are false. Here now is Lieutenant General Thomas Mcinerney, general you ever heard about anything like this happening before . I have not, david, so it surprised me a great deal. David well as you heard, the secret service is suggesting that general kelly didnt tackle anybody but the story didnt say that he tackled anybody. I think theyre trying to make the best of a bad situation here they are. What he did according to the reports i read was he moved out when he heard they were being held up this particular group of aids and assistants was being held up. He immediately went out, went to where he was being held up, told the whole group to move through, and the chinese guard didnt want that to happen and he put his hand up on general kelly who nicely removed it. There are words that secret service then got in a wrestling match but in any case general kelly was on the scene, he was proactive. David well hes a marine general. Hes not air force but hes a marine he doesnt take it but just one quick question. I mean, we make light of it, but it does show perhaps a vulnerability of having all those Nuclear Codes in one bag if youre in a semihostile country as i think china is, is that a risk . Well it is a risk but in all honesty the way the protocols are laid out its covered, theyre very careful what they do with it and theyve always got people around them a twoman concept et cetera, so the fact is its one of those acceptable risks that you have to do when youre traveling with the president wherever he is but particularly in an area like china, russia, other places like that. David by the way im sure an air force general would have stepped up to the situation as well it wasnt just kelly but meanwhile, we have Rex Tillerson the secretary of state making some comments on 60 minutes last night. I want to play the comments and get your reaction. Go ahead. Were not using the character to convince them to talk were using large sticks and that is what they need to understand. This Pressure Campaign is putting is having its bite on north korea. Its Revenue Streams its having a bite on its military programs. David so are the sanctions having a bite on north korea general . Well, apparently the secretary of state says they are , so im going to take him at his word for it. I believe that this administration is going to be much more aggressive because we do not want to go to war with north korea but the fact is we will not accept a Nuclear North Korea and we can do very severe economic constraints on them, put them on them, to really make them hurt, and i think thats what youre seeing. David bottom line though excuse me for jumping in b were running out of time, if there is some kind of military confrontation between north korea and they have any show any signs at all of threatening to use one of their Nuclear Weapons on south korea or some place else thats an allie of ours, could we stop them before they do it . Thats the question we dont know. I think we can, i think we could do the things that we have to do , but that is still unknown right now. David wow good to see you general thanks for being here appreciate it. Lauren . 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Reporter well, david the plan is to give some of stockton s poorest families as you mentioned 500 a month for a year to see if that can lift their spirits and put them on a path to prosperity. If you get people a base amount that theyre receiving regularly, that can really be a handout, that helps them to really gain their own economic success going forward. Reporter it is a real world demonstration of universal basic income paying people just for being alive. Its a popular concept in Silicon Valley amid fears that automation will wipe out jobs, and a techbased nonprofit is funding stocktons cash give away through a 1 million grant, even so critics say pay should be earned and point out basic income is still a form of welfare. Some economists say giving out free money to be a disincentive to work but here in stockton which had to declare bankruptcy in 2012 and where one in five residents is statistically poor many residents told us an extra 500 a month would be a big help. I would definitely spend it in my Community Just so it goes back towards the Community Maybe buying local, fruits, vegetables pay off bills. It will help a lot especially for the divorce rate and four children thats a lot of help for me to pay my bills. I would actually take my children on a trip to disneyland reporter take the kids to disneyland, why not. The recipients can spend miss money however they like no Strings Attached many of the finer details have yet to be released like who gets this money and how their spending habits will be tracked at the end of the yearlong demonstration well hear from the lucky recipients firsthand to find out if the cash was enough to boost their confidence and to go stocktons poverty as organizers claim and this Pilot Program gets underway this fall. David i like that one honest guy who said id go to disney land with the kids at least he was one honest guy, claudia thank you very much. Lauren . Laura lauren that would be like one day, a family of four, 530 not including parking i digress lets bring in back conservative comentator and robin former Obama Campaign regional field director. What do you guys think of universal basic income, good idea kristin . Well actually, on the broader scale universal basic income is something that conservative economists have also proposed but the concept being when you give universal basic income from the federal government, its something that eliminates all other welfare programs so all other entitlement programs so youre just giving people that u bi, so it is something that people have proposed with increasing automation and globalization and lower wages people working multiple jobs a way to actually sustain the economy and also enforce another conservative principle which we leave spending time with Family Building communities that time can be better spent instead of making minimum wage it can be better invested in family and communities so this is actually something on a broader scale might 1015 years down the road that we discuss but in this experiment 500 a month extra is not enough to get any real results and as you saw there its not going to incentive incentivize people to save this money or invest it in a way to help their career. Lauren i like the spin Silicon Valley puts on this robin, Mark Zuckerberg has been on the record and said this is a way that you chase your dreams, youll have a cushion so you can go about and do whatever it is you really want to do. Do you buy that or do you think thats a little bit of guilt for the people who create the robots an the Artificial Intelligence and Everything Else that basically still are human jobs . You know i see exactly where youre going and i came out in full disclosure against this policy when Mark Zuckerberg did put this out as a nationwide program potentially and he was fielding a potential 2020 run himself when he was dog the 50 state tour, so i came out against that but i want to say that a study was just released yesterday which i found fascinating because we already sort of have this in alaska with the Alaska Permanent Fund its a 61 billion program thats funded from oil money and so alaska residents all of them get some form of a basic income off of that and i want to point out that the Study Released yesterday showed employment went up by 17 and that people actually took on additional employment so im curious to see how this experiment goes. Lauren that is a very good point because the way our welfare system works now, if you make too much money, they pullback what you get. If theres no Strings Attached here, this cohen courage people to work even more and increase employment. It absolutely could but at the end of the day its going to sound like free money to a lot of people. You have to have the personal responsibility, there are skills that have you to have as a person to be able to use that money wisely so it doesnt matter if you get 500 or 500,000 that money could be gone in two days if you dont know how to handle it. Lauren how much money do you guys think would really be needed to make this work nationwide. Robin what do you think . Oh, my goodness well 500 aint going to cut the mustard in california i can tell you that much. Or new york. No exactly its anyones guess. Lauren economists have thrown around the number about 40,000 a year as something that theyve proposed but were a long way from that at this point. Lauren and Silicon Valley is going to use their private money to fund that. On millions of dollars of cash so apple can theyre putting their money where their mouth is. Lauren good to see you both thank you so much. David its insane. Its insane. Money is not free. Money is not free its a holder of the work, well anyway after dissing President Trump on 60 minutes the president challenging oprah to run in 2020 the latest on the war of words between these two titans coming up next. I want you to pick a new truck for your mom or dad, knowing that they could possibly pass it down to you one day. Cool. But before you decide, you should know that chevy silverados are the most dependable, longest lasting fullsize pickups on the road. Which means that ford f150s are not. laughs which truck would you pick . The chevy. The chevy. The chevy. There you go. Boom. That was obvious. Plus it looks cooler. No doubt about it. Now they know what to get me. laughs looking for a hotel that fits. Whoooo. Your budget . Tripadvisor now searches over. 200 sites to find you the. 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