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Good Tuesday Mornings thanks for joining us. Im maria bartiromo. It is tuesday, may 21, it is 8 00 a. M. On the east coast i hope of you are having a really good Tuesday Morning time for hot topic of the hour former President Trump in, new york city courtroom this morning socalled hush money trial entering day 20, fox business lydia hu live outside new York Supreme Court with the latest lydia good morning. Good morning there maria that is right this trial, is winding down but i can tell you he inside the courtroom tensions are flying high. The prosecution finally rested its case after star witness disbard Attorney Michael Cohen finished testifying for four days on witness stand Michael Cohen, of course, testified that donald trump knew of the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels approved of them, the crossexamination completed cohens credibility rests in absolute tatters, yesterday todd blanche got cohen to admit he stole about 60,000 dollars from Trump Organization allowing them to incorrectly believe cohen was owed more than he paid to a vendor the exchange between blanche and cohen blanche asked so you stole from the Trump Organization right cohen answeredier. And you didnt just steel 30,000 dollars right it was grossed up it was 50,000 dollars. Answer yes, sir. Did he have called witness costello offered legal advice after offices raided about statements to stom stom costello testified this quote Michael Cohen said numerous times that President Trump, knew nothing about payments he did this on his own. Meaning Michael Cohen did this on his own that is what costello, to cohen said, sparks flew judge juan merchan frustration Robert Costello boiled over a veteran criminal lawyer became agitated by judge merchan rigorously when testifying, prompted merchan to clear courtroom admonish costello telling if you dont like my ruling you dont give me sideeye you dont roll your eyes costello may very well be defenses final witness judge advised everyone he expected closing arguments next week planch asked court to dismiss charges telling court there is no that evidence Business Records had been falsified clearly what this case is all about the central issue no evidence todd blanche wants this dismissed judge put that reserve ruling on that issue so we can see if we get a decision on that today. Thanks very much lydia hu, joining me harvard law professor emeritus, and author of the book get trump a must read Alan Dershowitz back with me good to see you you were in that courtroom i believe a front row seat tell us everything that went down yesterday what you witnessed specifically. I have to tell you i have been in courtrooms 60 years never seen spectacle like that, the judge absolutely imploded blew up, when costello daredis if to raise eyebrow about some i raised my eyebrows my eyes rolled i starred him down never heard so many erroneous rulings in such brief period of time, then cohen passed by me brushed his leg next to mine so close to him, again, i the realer seen so many lies he swears under oath that he would not have accepted a pardon. He wouldnt have accepted a pardon, he has already told costello he would do anything to avoid going to prison, lie, cheat, steal do anything wouldnt have accepted a pardon from donald trump, such a lie, then the judge refuses to grant motion saying well, you know if cohen lied you got 12 new yorkers here will see through lies 12 new yorkers desperately want to make sure trump doesnt run for president become president judge is abdicating responsibility should grant acquittal there is zero evidence that trump knew about the way in which the money was booked, whether it was Legal Expense or reimbursement, no that evidence trump had any knowledge of that, and costello testified quite credibly, that cohen admitted, admitted that trump didnt know anything about it you so, the only basis for even part of the conviction is 82 second phone call about a 14yearold, harassing cohen, also on phone call without corroborateation approval of trump to make the payment not to list as Legal Expenses which is key so this case should never go to the jury there is nothing to the case it is weakest case i have seen in 60 years heing teaching practicing writing about criminal law. Maria unbelievable alan two questions do you believe the jury sees it the way you do that objects, in terms of crossexamination tie costello yesterday like from all of the reporting what you just said, felt like judge was really getting on Robert Costello has it obvious the judge against costello obvious basically biased from your standpoint . To me but i was in the courtroom many when jury was thrown out media thrown out, by the way, throwing out media denies trump right to public trial under 6th amendment other thing interesting i was at the trial as observer i am not a political supporter of the republicans or donald trump, yet you should see the emails i am getting hate mail for even at the trial with donald trump. Nbc rights a report go over to friend my former student froechl search assistant he is in courtroom a cnn glie normal how are you a friendly chattel nbc reports dershowitz screamed at him, opponent, making a whole story nbc made up a complete total story, he is going to write to nbc you cannot believe anything you hear about what goes on in that courtroom, why it should be on television, i wish the world has seen the way judge merchan ruled blew up imploded when somebody rolls their eyes you have a constitutional righted to roll your eyes you have a constitutional right to see stare at somebody no judge can deny that right this is not his courtroom this is the courtroom for all americans. Let me tell you this castle culture getting old attacks on people who support justice support a fair system, will, you have is to ignore it i understand let me get your take you know. That is true. Because it is destroying america. It is destroying america you are right alan, what about when Michael Cohen admitted he stole 60,000 dollars from trump . I read that i was astounded, so he basically admitted that he put 20,000 in a bag gave it to vendor kept the rest . Tell me how that went down. People were shocked you can see jury paying close attention i was hoping for perry mason Moment Police would walk in put handcuffs on him he admitted, grand larceny, admitting he owes money never going to pay it back you expect jury would take that into consideration here is a guy does not know how to deal with financial matters for a company for which he has a are fiduciary obligation would you buy a car from this guy no one would buy a car from Michael Cohen could you convict republican nominee running for president of United States end political career based on the testimony of somebody you wouldnt buy a used car from i would hope the jury would see through this but with this jury you never, never know. 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Reject it. C. Application, arrest warrants whenever warrants may apply there is no equivalent between israel and hamas what is happening is not genocide they are rejecting it President Biden railing against court after icc requested arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu and defense chief, belgium backed warrants, George Clooneys rife amal clooney er apparently convinced prosecutors to move forward with netanyahu arrest warrant, a massive los angeles fundraiser for joe biden next month o joining me nebraska senator Ranking Member Senate Rules Committee Armed Services Appropriations Committee thanks so much for being here. Your reaction to the move, all of it. Whole thing shows President Biden is inconsistent, a hypocrite when it comes to this, one day is condemning icc for baseless warrants they came out with the next day giving a commencement speech where calling for complete ceasefire, that israel should adhere to, that he is telling israel what they need to do, telling democratic government what they need to do, to protect their country to protect their people. It is just shows chaos that we see on many, many issues, from this administration. Yeah, this, basically from guy who botched up the withdrawal offing from afghanistan so in terms of Foreign Policy i guess . No, we should not be listening to him when it comes to Foreign Policy, bob gates gave best quote on that President Bidens messed up every decision that he ever made or ever wanted to make when it comes to Foreign Policy, we lost 13 good military men and women because of botched withdrawal of from afghanistan. Ion clad support for israel then hold back weapons to israel theres that a what about this morning Biden Administration facing criticism because they offered con will do condolence for death of president raisi state Department Spokes american miller grilled on it had nowhere to go on this roiled memory. What is official, condolences on behalf United States government i am not surf why offering condolences if as bad as you say he was. Because contradictory messages, absolutely not we made clear would offer assistance for logistical reasons unable to provide that. Maria what is going on in this circus of a state Department White house, senator . They overdosed condolences for the guy chanting death to america. Offered condolences on death of a guy who is responsible for the deaths of thousands of its own people starting in 1980s a member of the Death Committee going up till present day, 2022 cracked down on womens will movement taking place in iran, so this is the butcher of tehran, responsible to many, many deaths of this is own people why in the world would we offer condolences . Maybe state department thinks because it is their official that they need to do that no, we do not need to do that. We need to take a strong stand here did we offer condolences to people of the soviet union when stalin died . I dont remember that we did i dont remember that from history lessons. This is hillary clinton, Barack Obamas state department how else to look at it u. S. Deputy ambassador robert woods facing backlash for what he did everybody stand to observe a moment of silence for president of irrain raisi at u. S. Security council what do you make of this . Iran is a bad actor there is no accountability. Iran is a bad actor they support terrorism, against the United States they chant death to america they burn our flags, they are responsible for deaths of americans. We should not be doing that i dont know how to make this more clear to this administration, the American People would never support this, never. Again, it shows how out of touch this administration is that they continue to try to promote failed policies, failed outreach to administrations in other countries that have only hatred towards us want to see United States go down. Yeah, obviously, ironclad statement, talking point mike johnson this week Senate Minority leader Mitch Mcconnell about border bill talked yesterday white house saying biden urged republicans to quote stop playing politics pass a bill quickly insisting would make our country safer speaker johnson writes on x, leader schumer trying to give vulnerable members cover bringing a vote on a bill when already failed should it reach house would be dead on arrival, Chuck Schumer says he is bringing it to floor we know bill loud 5,000 people into the country before white house can do anything on top of 10 million illegals how do you plan to vote. I am a no on it a showboat what schumer is trying to do protect vulnerable democrats in upcoming election Everybody Knows this border is chaotic, not secure. Schumer can try and hide that but this administration has power to change it, they have the power to build the wall they have the power to reinstate the remain in mexico they have the power to end catch and release are they doing it . No, instead they want a showboat that means absolutely nothing that will not secure our border. Maria are i mean showboat what a waste of time and more than do you think the senators your colleagues understand, that people are sick and tired of all the politics instead of just answering doing things for the American People making our lives better, it is all everything is politics all the time bring a vote to the floor because you want a showboat . In fact, the American People know i know that nebraskans do want to know what were working on in washington to make their lives better they want to know how were going to address inflation. And try to reduce that growth we see of what 20 over 20 anonymous groceries for rent energy what people are addressing when i am back home in nebraska. They are tired of bs that we have going on here in washington, with the other parties, setting the agenda the United States senate, bringing up nominations, nominations show boats, we have major, major issues from the border to the costofliving in this country. Maria senator we will be watching your work want to know your plan as well, thank you. We will continue to fill out well be right back. Stay with us. E fence. Daughter its a lot of fence. Dad you wanna help me . Dad aim at the wall, but get closer. Daughter gasps what the . daughter alright. Dad side to side. When you work with someone who knows a lot and cares even more. You can do this. Youre unstoppable. Wow. Are you kidding me . You can do this. At truist, we believe the same is true for banking. I dont want you to move. Im gonna miss you so much. 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Take a look at Interest Rates this morning the alternative yes, sir treasury yield is pulling back down one and aid that base points 4. 4 the Federal Reserve will release minutes from last meeting, tomorrow. We will get minutes to see the if market moved 2 00, it is signaled that three rate cuts are likely out of the question says i was on record before saying i was at median forecast, 3 cuts development seeing in economy would not think that that is still appropriate joining me Piper Sandler managing director senior economist, thank you for if being here tell me what you are expecting you talked before nancy talks about bifurcated economy rich doing well lower earnings not doing well tell us what our seeing out there today. Yeah. I think that is true i think i what is spilling over one of the things weve seen recently is this spilling over of weakness into higher income groups middle starting to see fraying, delinquencies that continue to take up, and were seeing more deterioration on employment side sentiment standpoint one most telling in terms of bifurcation uthe probability in a survey biggest inflection to high side in income group of 100,000 or more, that is very telling we might have had this bifurcation becoming a more o cohesive weakness strip housing out inflation back down to target there are interesting things inflation i think hurting people disproportionately we can talk about that ultimately for fed going to be about what unemployment does if unemployment starts deflecting up significant way probably cut aggressively if it didnt probably on hold balance of the year fed very pry modal in terms of 2024. I dont know cohesive seen full impact of 11 rate hikes, so, you know there is a a massive lag effect if fed starts cutting rates i dont know gets itself into a corner we havent seen seen effects on the Banking Sector of the 11 rate hikes then look what is going on in business, wendys to of our 3 dollar breakfast combo meal to drive sales up consumers pulling back dont want to go out to eat if that expensive, i asked double line capital ceo founder Jeffrey Gundlach about this in terms of driving up costs for consumers watch this. If you look at the components, of the inflation rate youve got what is real driving things has been Auto Insurance, and shelter. Your forced to buy Auto Insurance renew every six months, 20 percent yearoveryear, insurance you dont have to have Home Insurance most important peace of mind dont want a catastrophe. Why are arent markets focused on debt you talk about. They are starting to get focused on i think higher for a longer is going to lead to recession. You take out people Small Business medium businesses used to borrow at 4 on 90 day revolver now 10 , every month every quarter that you are paying that, it eats into cash position. What about that, two important points on one hand a lot of cost around insurance. Auto insurance healthcare insurance, cost of healthcare, this is eating into things big time prices going up what about deficits 34 trillion dollars debt markets, i guess fine for now inflation front i think hitting the nail on the head one thing more recently most important thing with inflation is the fact, drivers of inflation in nondiscretionary component, healthcare, insurance, roevent Funeral Services day care et cetera, et cetera we have a basket all things, 25 spending up 6 outpacing general inflation so this is doing two things putting pressure on consumers right because taking away Discretionary Income from other things putting pressure on Pricing Power for corporations that rely on that discretionary funding, the discretionary ss consumption basket inflations there is flat not surprising consumers coming back, not surprising to see Companies Like wendys offering deals mcdonalds similar regent walmart doing a lot more private label Companies Moving direction they notice Pricing Power under pressure huge driver last few years that is under pressure because of nondiscretionary inflation, you see persisting here for a whether i will. Look what we learned in walmart quarter, high income americans going to walmart avtrading down want value play on everything, always a pleasure thanks so much for amazing insights as always, Piper Sandler. Check nvidia event of the week company will report firstquarter earnings tomorrow night after the bell ai neither income expected to rise 768 , revenue expected to rise 265 yearoveryear, with revenue expected 24. 5 billion dollars, Slatestone Wealth chief Market Strategy Kenny Polcari expecting nvidia revenue around 26 billion dollars, kenny rights look. This is a highly anticipated inventory takes high from tech and investors Nvidia Center of ai revolution the stock up 204 last year, we will be talking about this, of course, tomorrow, and thursday after the company reports, wednesday night could be a market he o mover stay with us on that we will bell following that stay with us. Well be right back. voya there are some things that work better together. 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Then openai is under fire from Scarlett Johansson suing the company, accusing them mimicking her voice johannson told fox business duly licensed in, offer to voice assistance was shocked angered over the similar voice used in a statement to fox business said quote in a time gambling with protection of likeness workouts i believe these are questions that deserve absolute clarity altman responded writing voice of sky is not johannson never intended to resemble here, our products, we are sorry we didnt communicate this better fascinating your headlines. Maria Scarlett Johansson makes a really a good point this is going to increasingly become an issue. Cheryl fighting back good for her. The price of whose hospitalstay, fox business kelly saberi live with more we hear about cost of healthcare. Yeah, maria. Well, the reason we didnt see prices increase earlier in the pandemic at supermarket, in insureers hospitals renegotiate fees only every few years now places catching up hearing from department of labor saying that last week put out a report indicating the hospital prices have gone up nearly 8 , from a year ago the highest increase since 2010, negotiations have been leaving some insurers hospitals to cancel accounts altogether, average 301 drugs . Shortage per quarter in 2023 less hospitals paying more to acquire their most commonly used drugs aggressive demand for excess diabetes obesity drugs playing a part the rising kort one reason American Hospital association calling a major turning point for the industry, points to 43billiondollar increased in labor costs between 2021 and 2023 all factors have created the worst Case Scenario for hospitals the Biggest Issue is what they call quote inappropriate commercial health sure practices in statement the groups say to fight challenges 2023 bureau of labor stats data show is that Health Insurance premiums i agree more than twice as much as hospital prices 6. 7 versus 2. 6 economists say repercussions are going to be on companies trying to hire and expand, President Biden noungs tariffs on 18 billion dollars exports, guadrupling from 25 to one hundred percent i spoke with north dakota governor doug burgum on sunday morning futures about biden changing his tune taking a page out of trumps book on chinese tariffs in an Election Year watch. It just interesting that joe biden in Election Year the one complained about the trumps tariffs said if elected get rid of them now trying to do a headed fake say i am actually strong on china going to add a few tariffs, only 4 of what President Trump did, were talking you know a few billion versus President Trump had tariffs over 300 billion dollars, of chinese goods, that was real blow to chinese the chinese economy, what joe biden is protecting industries that are voting bloc. China announced its own investigation saying that they are announcing an antidumping probe into chemical imports from u. S. And eu in amount retaliatory move, joining me author of no trade is free, robert light, light hiser thanks for being here. Your take on biden china policy compared to what you did in Trump Administration so tough, on all of this. And seen heard a word Holding China to account until this week six months before election how would you characterize bidens tariff plan . Well, i would say, too little too late first i want to agree with governor nice that candidate biden criticized us his administration studied what we did two years decided we were complete right vindicated that he was wrong but 18 billion dollars is not nearly enough 93 trump called for large tariff increases across the board on china, the first thing that is a little bit scary is they really dont realize they are an adversary existential threat to United States american jobs dealing with this like they were trying to protect an industry in dispute request switzerland, we are delegate with aggressive swair so clearly we need across the board tariffs as President Trump was called for the other thing that is interesting is by just protecting evs you are really making the the hundreds of thousands American Workers make alternatively combustion engines more vulnerable not less vulnerable most cars china exports are internal combustion engines in michigan and central, part of the United States, are are making they are not making evs any great number misguided clearly we need to take this on the way past time to a do it. I spoke with greg brown yesterday chairman ceo mott rolla solutions, they were one of the first out of china because of the property theft, intellectual property theft dumping of products what he told me he said biden says he is doing one hundred percent tariff increase on electric vehicles sounds impressive the fact is 7 of the people in u. S. Are driving electric vehicles that is 2 of the imported evs coming from china when you actually look at how significant this is not significant, consequential more symbolic trying to convince people he is tough on china . Sounds to me like they had a Conference Room had some people that care about workers some people that care about environmentalist who worn argument ought to worry about manufacturing workers not just environment. What do you want to say to people saying this is going to cause a trade war when i interviewed President Trump in march asked or february he said look we have to ensure our companies are protected what to you wants to globalists say we understand National Security lets not destroy the economy in the meantime because this is going a create a trade war what is a answer. Look it, we are in a trade war weve been if one for 20 years with china the difference with President Trump first one out if back others left what weepeded up in america reciprocal what china didnt want we are in a trade war another thing i add a study out of china really that said china suffered more than three times more from our actions than we did, so, clearly we were on the right track, but the start of the whole analysis has to be is china a a friend or adversary . Just dont treat them like you would another economic partner if you dont realize that youre never getting the right answer. I dont think biden raises that he will not call them adversary only calls them competitor, by the way, the other day janet yellen was telling somebody yeah trumps tariffs were tax on consumer, but biden trifrs are very different because targeted not to the consumer. The biggest part of what biden decideed to continues tariffs, economic matter i do not believe there a tariffs are tax he is on consumers sometimes they are mostly not taxed around foreign production but notion 18 is on isr targeted he decided to keep out 300 million dollars, she is claiming now is a tax on consumers, it would the comment didnt make any sense. I thought about the same thing but look at this bloomberg reporting that china market regulators planning to meet with investors in europe this week as part of broader move by authorities to shore up interest in the world second largest stock market economy, robert your thoughts . I know there are many, Many Companies that trades on u. S. Exchanges right now some companies have already been sanctioned yet we have them on new york stock exchange, nasdaq, investors buying them in all indices msci index et cetera, et cetera, isnt that ordinary investors funding expansion of our number one enemy number one adversary talk to us about outlook of the chinese economy why it is that we dont have any commander in chief to see take the the the Capital Markets lever and using that against china on its after behavior. So i have been very clear i think we have to regulate our investment, between United States and china once you realize that they are a threat. But on this issue of of investment they have a problem. They have a conundrum at the same time they want more investment because what they want to do is get out of their economic problems by shifting more resources to manufacturing increasing exports basically, taking jobs in the west, United States would also, new york they need more investment, at the same time trying to crack down, on business analysis, where they have taken steps trying to expand security laws more and more security they are doing two things that are counter dictionary i would say the people that are doing well in this investment are people getting the commissions writing money into china, investors in china are not doing well right now, and it is creating a real problem you saw direct investment in china 30year low, it should be they are taking actions make it noneconomic to invest there. 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Welcome back young conservative week here on mornings with maria next guest promising young conservative on college campuses, joining me campus reform are correspondent university of florida student emily, great to see you thanks very much for being here. Access the situation for us, what do you see regularly in college. Good morning thank you so much for having me. As student at the university of florida seen firsthand how America College campuses have become sites of leftist indoctrination, punishing conservative views on college campuses, as a freshman during freshman year of college, i saw that this is what was happening in the classroom decided to speak out against it fight against leftit indoctrination i was seeing, campus reform. Org i have seen changes on my college campus. Ingenuously out with oped young voters arent as liberal as you think making the case they the discontent might hold democrats back what is your reaction what are your priorities most important do you think to your generation as you go to the polls this november . I am very excited to see a recent folks news poll shows that 51 of voters under 30 support trump, 51 my generation that is not falling victim to the blatant lies of the left falling victim to lies of the Biden Administration. Generation zis fed up with the Biden Administration economy skyrocketing tuition rates rising apartment prices the American Dream seems so far off because we have no idea how to afford a home or a child next five to 10 years because as a dreb result of the Biden Administration economy. General z wants real leadership. I guess the censorship dpucht dont it. Maria i am excited my generation not falling from lies from the left we appreciate you joining me stay with us. Well be right back. Maria welcome back. We are 30 minutes away from the opening bell. Marxs are mixed as we go into the open, were watching earnings and, of course, geared up opinion for nvidia or earnings tomorrow the night p. Monica crowley, john lonski, Cheryl Casone first great to talk with you all this morning. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, maria. Target tomorrow. Target earning. Maria cheryl, thats going to be one, certainly, that that markets focus on, right in. Oh, yeah. Maria all right. Well have it here live, target and the preview for nvidia. Thanks, everybody, Varney Company picks it up now. Stu, take it away. Stuart good morning, maria. Good morning, everyone. Let there be no doubt, Donald Trumps criminal trial in ne