Transcripts For GBN Breakfast 20240703

Is it football . Who knows . Well, well stay tuned. Well, well stay tuned. Shove hapenny. Shove hapenny. Thats the one giving it away. Thats it. Thats it. Thats it. Alex burkill. Hes got the Weather Forecast. Its going to be hot. Good morning. Once any low cloud and fog clears away, theyll again be plenty of hot sunshine around with perhaps temperatures a touch higher than yesterday. Ill have more later. Okay. Okay. Cameras from okay. Okay. Cameras from london to birmingham, glasgow, bristol and oxford. Clean air zones are sweeping across the country. Country. And the mayor of london, sadiq khans decision to extend the ulez scheme to outer london boroughs has fiercely divided opinion. But if you opposed a clean air scheme, how far would you go to show your objection . Well, this is an exclusive interview coming up. Gb news has spoken to a member of this group that called themselves blade runner vigilantes. They are breaking the law because what they do is they vandalise ulez cameras around london in ray addison with the report out. This is what one man can do to the ulez in less than half a day. Some call them vigilantes, others criminals. They call themselves the ulez blade runners around 100 activists, all using any means necessary to disable cameras, taking the fight against the london mayors clean air policy to the streets. Lee is part of a small group of saboteurs who go out most weeks speaking exclusively on camera to gb news, he says sadiq khan is targeting the citys most vulnerable to charge the poorest of people to drive around is unacceptable. Unacceptable. Sadiq khan talks about the fact that nine out of ten of cars are compliant. If nine if nine cars out of ten are compliant, who are the 1 in 10 . The 1 in 10 are the poorest people , the ones who cant people, the ones who cant afford a compliant car , so afford a compliant car, so theyre the ones youre charging. So therefore its a tax on the poor. Its that simple. But the mayor of london disputes that claim. The decision to expand on the ultra emission zone to all ultra low emission zone to all of london was a difficult one. It wasnt an one, but it wasnt an easy one, but i think its vital decision and its the right one. Let me tell you we now know the you why. We now know the evidence in relation to the consequences of air pollution. Consequences of air pollution. It leads to around 4000 premature deaths a year , at premature deaths a year, at least two children having stunted lungs forever , older stunted lungs forever, older adults a whole host of adults with a whole host of Health Issues from to Health Issues from asthma to cancer dementia to heart cancer to dementia to heart disease. We also now know that one of the most effective ways to reduce air pollution is with us. How do we know that in Central London weve seen a reduction of around 50 of toxicity of nitrogen dioxide . Also a third fewer children being admitted to hospital with air pollution related illnesses. The blade runners are supported by an Online Community that maps the location of londons almost 2700 ulez cameras. The red londons almost 2700 ulez cameras. The red pins show working units and the black ones have been disabled. Have been disabled. I will normally go around on the groups to see posts or pictures of people that have put up with cameras, particularly the new ones. If theyve just been put up near to where i live. And then yeah, ill literally make a note of that, jot that down and then ill arrange a date as to when i will go out and ill deal with that camera on that specific evening i according to the met crimes relating to ulez, cameras rocketed. By 77 in august, lee rocketed. By 77 in august, lee says hes personally disabled more than 60 cameras in the last year. More than 60 cameras in the last year. Hes more than 60 cameras in the last year. Hes developed his own technique, which bypasses tfls security measures in a matter of seconds. Gb news security measures in a matter of seconds. Gb news has security measures in a matter of seconds. Gb news has decided not seconds. Gb news has decided not to show footage of the way the cameras might be disabled to avoid the risk of copycats, its important to stress , of course, important to stress, of course, that what youre doing is illegal. Well, do you consider yourself to be a criminal . Im not. Im not a criminal in any in any way, shape or form. Im you know, im just literally me. Im doing what i believe is right. And ill stand by that. And ill sit on that hill until the time comes when im not no longer allowed to. Although tfl says the ulez expansion will Bring Health Benefits to a further 5 Million People living in greater london, lee questions that justification , saying this has nothing to do with air pollution. You know, weve seen videos, theres Video Evidence of People Living in houses with black mould, mushrooms growing off the wall. So this notion that 4000 deaths a year from car pollution is utter nonsense. Other groups would strongly disagree. Leo murray is director of innovation at possible the Climate Action group. Basically, about half of the air pollution, the stuff thats in the air that is dangerous to human health in out in the environment, not inside our homes, is about half of that comes from motor traffic. So you know, this is not in dispute. This is extremely well understood science. Meanwhile, lee is adamant that the blade runners will not stop their sabotage. Theres enough of us, myself included, where were not going to give up. Were not going to give up until either all them cameras are gone or and steep khan or the next mayor turns around and scraps us. Scraps the idea completely. A transport for london spokesperson said the ulez is vital in tackling the triple challenges of air pollution , the challenges of air pollution, the Climate Emergency and congestion and vandalism on our network is unacceptable and all incidents are reported to the police for investigation. Arson, criminal investigation. Arson, criminal damage to ulez cameras puts the perpetrators at risk of prosecution and life changing injuries while simultaneously risking the safety of the public. Risking the safety of the pubuc. The risking the safety of the public. The ulez is not about making money and annual net revenue from ulez will fall below zero by 20 2627 as compliance increases. Ray compliance increases. Ray addison gb news. Okay , well, joining us now in okay, well, joining us now in the studio are oliver lawrence. Oliver is host of protect and serve podcast. Hes oliver is host of protect and serve podcast. Hes a former Police Officer and the head of blade runners there. He said were not going away. Were not going away. No, theyre not. The metropolitan police are actively investigating these vigilantes. None of us can sit here and condone support, acts of criminality. Ulez clearly is demonstrating its resistance amongst members of the public in london. Its costing people an awful lot of money. Theres clearly a significant effort being by these individuals being made by these individuals to its to cause disruption, but its not something that we should be encouraging or but they have a sort of robin hood image, dont they . Very much so. You know that. So a lot of people might be thinking, well, were openly condone it, but were not openly condone it, but good to you. A lot of good luck to you. A lot of people will be saying that, you know, there are ways that we can resolve issues. Resolve these issues. Either voting we its either voting when we come round to the next mayoral elections making and elections or its making and lobbying to our local politicians things politicians to say these things are inappropriate. You are inappropriate. But, you know, going around committing acts of whether be violence, acts of whether it be violence, whether, we saw with just whether, as we saw with Just Stop Oil, we didnt condone those actions as those sort of actions as throwing over throwing orange paint over buildings all that stuff was acts criminality. We cant acts of criminality. We cant encourage say encourage it. Weve got to say to are ways to people there are ways to manage and respond these manage and respond to these issues and taking the law into your hands is one of your own hands is not one of those. And the ramifications, your own hands is not one of those. Peoples ramifications, your own hands is not one of those. Peoples actionsations, your own hands is not one of those. Peoples actions could these peoples actions could be significant in terms of penalties criminal damage charges. Well, weve seen Police Powers hugely strengthened under this government, havent we, in response active behaviour response to the active behaviour of anti climate of many of the anti climate activists . So there are these activists . So there are these powers now that can have impact on these people that could see jail terms, for example . Jail terms, for example . Yeah, very much so. Theres a command commander being placed in charge of this to, to, to oversee the operation of trying to find these people responsible oversee the operation of trying to 1takingese people responsible oversee the operation of trying to 1takingese pe� theseesponsible oversee the operation of trying to 1takingese pe� these cameras. 3 for taking down these cameras. And i say, could be and as i say, they could be charged with number of charged with a number of different offences going equipped commit thefts. Equipped to commit thefts. Theres theres equipped to commit thefts. Tivery; theres equipped to commit thefts. Tivery; different theres equipped to commit thefts. Tivery; different scenarios. Eres a very of different scenarios. These could be facing. A very of different scenarios. Thesi could be facing. A very of different scenarios. Thesi would could be facing. A very of different scenarios. Thesi would suggest e facing. A very of different scenarios. Thesi would suggest a facing. A very of different scenarios. Thesi would suggest a strong and i would suggest a strong message will sent when one of message will be sent when one of them to be in them is found to be in possession of one of these utility because utility cameras, because obviously the modus operandi is fairly london, fairly consistent across london, either removing either cutting wires, removing cameras completely or obstructing they disrupt the yeah. So they disrupt the cameras. The cameras go up again. Very quickly, again. Very, very quickly, though , it really have any though, does it really have any impact . I dont think so. Its a nuisance factor. Yeah. Tfl are obviously coming up new strategies coming up with new strategies to defend the equipment. Bigger boxes wires, boxes, safeguarding wires, making cabling stronger. So making the cabling stronger. So you , sadiq khan is not you know, sadiq khan is not going to back down from this policy. Only that were policy. The only way that were to going this policy u turn to going have this policy u turn is bringing in another is by bringing in another mayoral whether be mayoral candidate, whether it be conservative, liberal democrat or coming or otherwise, someone coming in and the which and reversing the policy, which i in the short to long i cant see in the short to long term. Anything happening. The democratic so through the democratic process. The majority are process. But if the majority are in favour, what you do . In favour, what can you do . I suppose the big impact of all of this as well on the taxpayer this as well is on the taxpayer because this is Police Resources. Also causing resources. Its also causing damage. There are damage. And then if there are criminal proceedings thats going through the courts as well, that be factor in well, that has to be a factor in all hugely. All of this hugely. You know, you look at how much pressure our police are under you know, the under already. You know, the commander this commander whos leading this has already this will a already said this will be a proportionate response to investigate these claims like every london. Every other crime across london. But you make the but again, as you make the point, you police point, isabel, you know, Police Resources stretched. Resources are already stretched. And we further and here we have further offences taking in london offences taking part in london where we have knife where we have a knife crime epidemic. Now police epidemic. Weve now got Police Officers find people officers trying to find people stealing just adds officers trying to find people stethelg just adds officers trying to find people stethe pressures just adds officers trying to find people stethe pressures of just adds officers trying to find people stethe pressures of policing dds to the pressures of policing across london. To the pressures of policing across what n. To the pressures of policing across what where do you reckon so what where do you reckon the police are dealing with this . Think they will be this . Do you think they will be there will be surveillance involved this and that there involved in this and that there will operations involved in this and that there wilyeah. Operations involved in this and that there wilyeah. How operations involved in this and that there wilyeah. How will operations involved in this and that there wilyeah. How will they ations involved in this and that there wilyeah. How will they be . 1s involved in this and that there wilyeah. How will they be . Will or. Yeah. How will they be . Will they be staking out cameras . Or. Yeah. How will they be . Will the therell therell be a number of strategies, you know, cctv evidence is always the strongest form of investigation form of any investigation inquiry following path inquiry following someones path. Where did they come from . Where they go . Trying where did they go . Trying to identify vehicles and registration so we registration plates. So that we can pin people to home can pin people back to home addresses. Be a addresses. So therell be a number different tactics number of different tactics employed can employed to see if we can identify these individuals as but these blade but obviously, these these blade runners trying to do this runners are trying to do this under the cover of darkness. But equally, doing it open equally, theyre doing it open in of licenced premises. In front of licenced premises. A lot people have been filming lot of people have been filming these so these activities going on. So theres a high degree of confidence individuals theres a high degree of confidencwont individuals theres a high degree of confidencwont get individuals theres a high degree of confidencwont get caught. Ials that they wont get caught. Is this a you know, a new and is this a you know, a new thing really . Are the metropolitan police to metropolitan police used to these vigilante these kinds of vigilante activists . I mean, i as a reporter covered vigilante incidents surrounding and members of the public gathering together and finding the address of. And that was a huge problem. Of. And that was a huge problem. But for this kind of sort of civil disobedience, this is this a new thing. So we often look at community policing. We on what the public we rely on what the public tell intelligence tell Us Intelligence led policing models rely the policing models rely on the pubuc policing models rely on the public to the public to provide the information. I one could public to provide the inform will|. I one could public to provide the inform will the one could public to provide the inform will the public1e could public to provide the inform will the public be ould argue, will the public be forthcoming identifying forthcoming in identifying these individuals . On individuals . Probably not on this the are this occasion. So the police are going rely on their own going to rely on their own skills, tactics and capabilities to individuals to identify these individuals within our communities committing these offences. Okay, oliver, thank you much. Appreciate it. Thats the war appreciate it. Thats the war against runners and against the blade runners and the blade runners. War against the blade runners. War against the cameras. Once again, we the ulez cameras. Once again, we just stress that gb news does not own or encourage illegal behaviour. Now were talking about concrete in schools and possibly now in hospitals as well. This crisis crumbling on, if you pardon the pun, nhs england reportedly has written to trusts telling them to bolster their emergency plans if the concrete in question is present in hospitals following the new government guidance to schools. Government guidance to schools. Conservative councillor for epping and thaden, thats Holly Whitbread joins us now with her view on all of this. Tell us more, holly. Whats whats what where are you seeing this . Good morning. So im from good morning. So im from Epping Forest in essex and in essex weve had 55 schools affected by the situation. So in my local community, just down the road from me, weve got a local Primary School with a not returning until monday with some children having to go to different schools and another secondary school as well , where secondary school as well, where theres going to be a staggered return. So obviously theres return. So obviously theres been a lot of concern about this in the local community. And actually after after the summer holidays, its been a lot of disruption from parents, from from child care to school meals. So im seeing the impact here on the ground in Epping Forest in essex. And i know the county council have been working really hard Academy Trust hard alongside the Academy Trust and department of education and the department of education to make sure theres as little disruption to children as possible. Yeah, its interesting is that a third almost of the cases that have been found in in essex, i wonder why that is and do think questions need to do you think questions need to be asked of that . You know, of the authorities there education secretary there as the education secretary has you know, has said this week, you know, its not technically her responsibility, although she is now flack now taking a lot of the flack for it. For it. Well , of the 55, i for it. Well, of the 55, i think are around a third of those are Essex County Council schools. But Essex County Council have been really proactive on this for some time and theyve been working with some schools historically. So where theyve historically. So where theyve been aware Essex Council have been aware Essex Council have been working with the relevant authorities. I think it is just unfortunate that a lot of these 60 style buildings are within the county and some of the councils , which the education councils, which the education secretary is referring to, essex is one of those that has been really proactive in trying to tackle this previously. But obviously , as the new evidence obviously, as the new evidence came, came to light from the department of the education towards the end of the summer, we had to act quickly , along we had to act quickly, along with other schools around the country and obviously the Academy Trust as well, who are responsible for their own schools. You disappoint in your conservative government as to the lack of action they have taken on this over the years. Taken on this over the years. I mean , this has been going i mean, this has been going on since the 90. This was first discovered that there were issues with this concrete in the 90s. I think its right when this incident happened over the summer where the beam collapsed , action was the beam collapsed, action was taken because ultimately the safety of children has to come first. Obviously, its disappointing that there was such short notice. What i would such short notice. What i would what i would say is that action has been taken and this audit was done earlier in the summer to identify where these schools were. So at least these this was here and the information is available rather than having to look at things scratch. Look at things from scratch. Sorry, didnt you yeah, sorry, i didnt you didnt answer the question. I was asking disappointed was asking you. How disappointed are in your conservative are you in your conservative government, which was in power for most of the years that youve talked about there and done absolutely nothing. Done absolutely nothing. Well , through the 90s and well, through the 90s and early 2000s and well, until 2010, it was a Labour Government in power, but yeah, but youve, youve been there for most of the time, so you cant just show to shift it to labour. Rishi sunak the current Prime Minister, he just halved education budgets when he was chancellor. Yeah. What i would say, what yeah. What i would say, what i would say is there has been a programme of repairing schools and i think nick gibb was on your show yesterday talking about the billions who have which has been put into repairing schools and rebuilding schools. So obviously it is schools. So obviously it is disappointing that were in this situation now. Yeah its disappointing. Were in this situation now and the safety of children now has to come first. As weve discovered these problems. Holly, can i ask you about the news that we learned yesterday about Birmingham City council . I mean, this is our second biggest city in the uk. It is the biggest local authority in europe. And theyve authority in europe. And theyve declared bankruptcy. And this declared bankruptcy. And this isnt the first local authority in recent years. And im reading that nearly a third of councils in the poorest areas of this country are also on the verge of bankruptcy. Thats 14 of 47 in the north. The midlands and on the north. The midlands and on the south coast could go bust this year or next. What is going on with our local councils . On with our local councils . I mean, this is this is a problem across the board. Ultimately, it does come down to Financial Management and how councils run their finances. I think the issue in birmingham is quite a specific one where there was historic issues with how people were paid, particularly the discrepancy between men and women, but actually were seeing Many Councils go bankrupt, particularly because of the pressures from social care, whether it be childrens social care or adult social care. I care or adult social care. I know in essex where im a representative, 60 of our budget goes towards social care. And since the pandemic , there and since the pandemic, there have been even more pressures than ever before, and particularly more complex needs. But also in an ageing population. And this is a real significant pressure on councils, which is was which is consistently meaning that the finances are a challenge. Challenge. But it is i mean, as you say, holly, its a specific case in burma where they were hit with a £750 million bill for equality of wages , which they had to find of wages, which they had to find from somewhere. And obviously whos got that sitting in the bank. So that has hit them badly. But obviously there was other conditions. Do come into force. Are you feeling the pressure there in essex . Yeah i think everyones feeling the pressure. Pressure. Pressure. As i say, social care is a huge cost. Inflation and increased Interest Rates affects councils in the same way as it affects residents. So i know that finances are increasing massively, becoming difficult. Massively, becoming difficult. Where im a district councillor and weve managed to Keep Council Tax as low as possible, but that means making difficult decisions. We try and protect those extra services , which i those extra services, which i know people in the public appreciate , but its always a appreciate, but its always a difficult balancing act. Difficult balancing act. Okay , holly, thanks very much okay, holly, thanks very much indeed for painting us that big picture there. Give us an insight into many things. And if you agree or disagree with what holly has had to say, gb views at gb news dot something or other , what is it called . Other, what is it called . Thanks. So, yeah. Com. Yeah. Thanks. So, yeah. Com. Yeah. Were a. Com now. Yeah right. Just sometimes why dont we just have it on screen all the time and then people will know without us having say there without us having to say there we gb views or gbnews. Com. We go, gb views or gbnews. Com. The time is 619. Lets right. The time is 619. Lets bnng right. The time is 619. Lets bring you up to date with the latest hour. And latest headlines this hour. And the pilot of the helicopter involved in the crash which killed the Leicester City Football Club owner has said ive Football Club owner has said pve idea Football Club owner has said ive idea whats going on as ive no idea whats going on as the aircraft was spinning out of control. Eric swaffer made the comment seconds before the helicopter hit the ground outside the clubs king power stadium in 2018. One person has died and others in Critical Condition after a crash involving a 52 seater coach and a car in west wales. Police say the road is currently closed between the borough and pembroke roundabouts and drivers are advised to take and drivers are advised to take an alternative route. An alternative route. Holiday goers on the greek island of skiathos are struggling to get home after severe rainstorms battered the island , causing widespread island, causing widespread flooding. Jet2 has said all flights due to depart the island on tuesday and wednesday. Thats five in total, have had to be cancelled, but added that its monitoring the forecast and will confirm new departure times. Just soon as possible. Just as soon as possible. And many parts of the country have hit heatwave criteria for the First Time Since june. As summer finally arrives , as the summer finally arrives, as the uk could see its hottest day of the year today, with the health secretary, Health Security agency declaring heat alerts across several regions as. But across several regions as. But that skiathos situation there just just is awful. I mean, you may expect many things when you go on your holiday to an island sun bathed island, but you dont expect floods and the dangers of those floods. People have to stay obviously above ground level. Theyre confined to their hotels. They havent got access to food or or drink. And goodness knows whats going on in the streets out there. The airports closed. Theres no flights going in or out. The airports only a mile and a half from skiathos centre there. And that small island. Feels like every day and it feels like every day were reporting sorts of were reporting these sorts of stories. Majorca last stories. It was majorca last week, it was madrid. Now week, then it was madrid. Now weve greek weve got skiathos, the greek island. You are watching us island. If you are watching us in greek islands this in the greek islands this morning, or indeed you are on your today, do get your way out there today, do get in touch. We would love to hear from you. Have you been affected by story . Know lots of by this story . We know lots of british holidaymakers love skiathos indeed had skiathos and indeed have had have to stay have been told they have to stay in hotels until till this in their hotels until till this disaster through or get disaster passes through or get in touch. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Awful awful situation and heanng awful awful situation and hearing about the Leicester City helicopter tragedy as well. I used to sit at many matches at the king power stadium and watch the king power stadium and watch the copter descend and then later on take off out into the ground and out into the car park area and just, you know, that was thats how the owner transported himself to and from the match every time leicester played at home. So it was an amazing sight but the rotor blade, the rear rotor blade needed servicing and basically there was nothing outside the law. It was, but that was where law. It was, but that was where the tragedy also being that this report has revealed that four out of the five passengers actually survived the impact , actually survived the impact, but they then died from the flames which engulfed the helicopter, which must, as you know, just an awful way to go. And a lot of fear must have been involved. So a terrible tragedy that and well be reflecting that throughout the course morning. Reflecting that throughout the cou right. Morning. Reflecting that throughout the cou right. Were orning. Reflecting that throughout the cou right. Were talking about right. Were talking about the weather here in the uk. And the weather here in the uk. And so many parts of the country are going to reach record levels today. Going to reach record levels today. I hope you can enjoy it. Today. I hope you can enjoy it. Alex burchell will tell you with the best of that weather is that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Hello , very good morning to you. Some of us are waking up to a bit of a cloudy, murky start, but most of that will clear away this morning to leave another sunny hot day, albeit with the risk some thunderstorms risk of some thunderstorms later, look the later, taking a look at the details and can see, yes, details and you can see, yes, a cloudy picture down the eastern side of the Country First thing. But of cloud and any but most of that cloud and any fog burn back towards the fog will burn back towards the coast through morning, coast through the morning, leaving a brighter afternoon. But lingering across but some cloud lingering across eastern scotland. Eastern parts of scotland. Elsewhere across the uk, plenty of sunshine , though, perhaps a of sunshine, though, perhaps a bit more than recent days, bit more cloud than recent days, particularly parts of particularly across parts of northern those Northern Ireland. Look at those temperatures than temperatures a touch higher than yesterday, get to yesterday, likely to get to highs 32 or 33 celsius in highs around 32 or 33 celsius in the south east, which would make it the hottest day of the year. So as we go through the end so far as we go through the end of the day, many places holding on to those clear skies, though, we to see showery we are going to see some showery rain feeding up from south. We are going to see some showery rain this ing up from south. We are going to see some showery rain this could from south. We are going to see some showery rain this could turnn south. We are going to see some showery rain this could turn heavy,outh. And this could turn heavy, perhaps thundery , perhaps even thundery, particularly across central and western into western parts of england into wales. Also Northern Ireland as we go through the night, elsewhere, therell some elsewhere, therell be some clear a few clear spells and perhaps a few pockets of fog, but temperatures really not dropping. Could be even last night. So even warmer than last night. So not news. If had not good news. If you had difficulty sleeping through thursday morning, then that showery continue to be showery rain will continue to be heavy at times and perhaps thunder further thunder as it pushes further northwards parts of northwards into parts of scotland continuing down scotland and continuing down west and parts of wales into ireland to otherwise again , ireland to otherwise again, plenty of sunshine and once more temperatures really rising. Well above average for the time of yeah above average for the time of year. In the south east, year. Again in the south east, we could see of around 32 we could see highs of around 32 or 33 celsius. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news 627. Still to come on todays program, were talking about the rise of the killer hornet record numbers of the dangerous asian hornets are nesting in the uk. Now. How concerned should we be . Well be finding out at quarter to seven, 720. Is it time to diversify the pro teams and so is a certain type of person loves the proms but we debate whether the beloved musical event should become more modern. What are we really saying here . Get rid of the union, jack. Stop singing land of hope and glory. What . What is the what is that coded language for . No, dont know. Well upset a lot of people. Well upset a lot of people. What song should we sing . I think maybe that the proms, they should sing always look on the bright side of life. Do do do do do do do do do do. That might be. Do you think that would work for you . Call me in there for a song. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Mr whistling, whistling whistling, though whistling under pressure is always difficult, it . Difficult, though, isnt it . You have at what song would you have at the proms . Oh, gosh, keep it just as oh, gosh, i keep it just as it myself. I dont like it is myself. I dont like change, right . Gb views gbnews. Com. Let us know your thoughts or you can tweet us at. Gb news and here are your back pages with mr covid. This is how they stack up the express. Jordan henderson heading back at claims he sold out over his controversial move to saudi arabia. The times says to saudi arabia. The times says the english magician marcus smith will be used as an impact. So what . Hes not actually a magician. Hes just a good rugby magician. Hes just a good rugby player. Player. I thought he was like paul daniels or something. Wheres the ball . Wheres the wheres the ball . Wheres the ball . Its disappeared. Hes an impact player. He was off the bench. Yeah. Yeah, right. Lovely. Okay. The world okay, lovely. Okay. The world cup this weekend . Its friday. Yeah. Yeah. Gets underway friday. Saturday in the star mason and in the star Mason Greenwood says hes very happy to be getafe after being to be at getafe after being unveiled in front of the home crowd. So where on earth are they . They . Spain . Yeah. Yeah. Are you sure . Yeah. Yeah. In other words, you dont know anything about another one of those . Its where its a situation where. Oh, yeah. No, no, we have no problem there. Just thinking. Good player. Get him dont good player. Get him in. Dont care. Things go. Care. Lets see how things go. Will take them in united will take them back in january something. Or after yeah well see. Well see. Yeah. Thats. Thats what you think, my friend. Yes, sir. So much on in yes, sir. So much going on in the world. What . What do you want to start . Ill do a little bit of us open because Novak Djokovic is into his fourth grand slam semi final. Yeah. At semi final. Yeah. You know, at least we can this 24th grand least we can put this 24th grand slam which seems slam title to bed, which seems likely. Be him likely. Itll probably be him and the final and alcaraz in the final margaret still has the Margaret Court still has the record as 24 grand slams. This is going to be his 47th semi final, so its going to be alcaraz in the final. Ben shelton is another fella. Hes only 20 and he hes a powerhouse. Ill tell you, hes one to look out for. He beat frances tiafoe. Just just probably about half an hour ago. It finished 20 years old. American as always, son of a former pro and coach. They always are golfers and tennis players always have it in the family and the youngest american semi finalist at the us open since 1992. Okay. I believe is michael chang, the last one, right . Spain without a coach. The womens Football Team are without a coach. So this guy, jorge villa vilda , jorge vilda. Jorge villa vilda, jorge vilda. Yeah, hes hes history. He seemed to be an arrogant sort of quy seemed to be an arrogant sort of guy. Oh, yeah. I mean, we spoke about it dunng i mean, we spoke about it during the world cup before spain were even likely to win it. The fact that there was all these problems within the camp, there a spanish players there were a spanish players that refused to play him. He that refused to play for him. He ended getting four back. Ended up getting four back. Honestly was just mess of honestly it was just a mess of what he was trying to run, how they through and they actually came through and won cup. Hes won the world cup. Hes a miracle. But horror miracle. But theres horror there. Know about there. And then we know about Luis Rubiales as well. The other thing is that was at the thing is that wilders was at the conference. When youve got Luis Rubiales and then hes standing there saying and he applauded him, everybody noticed that. And him, everybody noticed that. And they thought, okay, well we see where you got the wrong horse there he did back the wrong horse. Youre right he horse. Youre darn right he backed wrong horse. So hes backed the wrong horse. So hes gone. Rubiales is still gone. Luis rubiales is still there, going to there, but surely hes going to be matter of time before he goes. Jordan henderson. No longer at of course. He at liverpool, of course. Is he featuring with this weekend . Yeah. Its amazing, isnt it . Hes playing in saudi arabia, but getting a bit but anyway, hes getting a bit of a backlash for the this Saudi Arabian that hes pulled off. Well. Well. Well, he has done because hes spoken about gay hes always spoken out about gay rights, etcetera. Yeah. And also rights, etcetera. Yeah. And also the rights which are not really seen as very important over in saudi arabia. People think, saudi arabia. People think, well, youve just goodbye well, youve just waved goodbye to for the to that. Youve gone for the money. Done an interview to that. Youve gone for the monhes done an interview to that. Youve gone for the monhes trying he an interview to that. Youve gone for the monhes trying to an interview to that. Youve gone for the monhes trying to in interview to that. Youve gone for the monhes trying to i mean rview to that. Youve gone for the monhes trying to i mean , iew to that. Youve gone for the monhes trying to i mean , hes and hes trying to i mean, hes trying its like trying to backtrack. Its like its the liv golfers by its like the liv golfers by saying, well, you know, im not necessarily im not going to rule out the fact that i may wear rainbow laces over there. Wear rainbow laces over there. Yeah, right. I dont believe that for a second. Be honest, jordan. Youve jordan. Its the money youve gone money you know, jordan. Its the money youve gon huge money you know, jordan. Its the money youve gon huge amount1ey you know, jordan. Its the money youve gon huge amount of you know, jordan. Its the money youve gon huge amount of money. Ow, jordan. Its the money youve gon huge amount of money. 200 the huge amount of money. 200 million. Oh, just a crazy million. Oh, its just a crazy amount money. Hes saying amount of money. Hes saying that liverpool didnt want him, so the reason he went out so thats the reason he went out there. Clubs in there. There are more clubs in this would fall this country that would fall over themselves to jordan over themselves to have Jordan Henderson so although now henderson play. So although now hes apologising for anybody, hes apologising for anybody, hes i just would hes upset. Yeah, i just would prefer they just look, prefer they just say, look, i need payday. Its a great need the payday. Its a great way to finish my career way for me to finish my career money wise , but its never money wise, but its never mentioned. Other mentioned. Its always other reasons. No. Mentioned. Its always other rea� at|s. No. Mentioned. Its always other rea� at theio. Mentioned. Its always other rea� at the top of the hour, at at the top of the hour, at 6 00, you talked about a sport thats set to make a comeback. I thats set to make a comeback. I did olympics in high, long and the first time 1900, right, since 1900, 123 years, i believe is the maths there. Thats not bad, is it . So what do you reckon . What are you any idea . Well, it has to be like something obscure that. That is, like completely out of that you wouldnt. Of vogue. That you wouldnt. Ive got skittles. Well, ive got skittles. Skittles. Skittles would be good. Mean, ive got old good. I mean, ive got old events from the olympics. Tug of events from the olympics. Tug of war, 1920. Its not that. Its not tug of war. No. How about the standing long jump they used to do the standing long jump, so no run up . No. He just basically. Well if you think thats bad. So used to be thats bad. So there used to be a high jump, which. No. A standing high jump, which. No. What do you do . I mean, you cant three foot off the ground. Youre just like that. Go. You know whod be really good on that . Well, standing high jump. Well, standing high jump. Yeah. So steve austin, a man burning alive. Burning alive. We can rebuild him. We can we can rebuild him. We can make him stronger. Yes, faster. Higher than. Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. Oscar, i think i can take it. Oscar 6 million nothing these days. Is it the 6 million woman 1 million . Yeah. She was there, too. Lindsay wagner. Wagner yeah. Lindsay wagner. But anyway, its cricket. Cricket is coming back. So if you think cricket. Yeah, its cricket. If you think, well, why cricket . So crickets back to the crickets coming back to the olympics there always olympics now. There is always method behind madness. Method behind the madness. India. Money. Method behind the madness. Ind money. Ney. Method behind the madness. Ind money. Because they think of money. Because they think of the money that can be made if they t20 into olympics. They put t20 into the olympics. Yes. The money that can be made from tv rights in india and india. Obviously a cricket loving country. Everything to do loving country. Everything to do with cricket they adore. And if that goes into the olympics, much indian interest. Much more indian interest. Theyre wrong there ehheh with the science all with the Science Behind all of so there you go. So there you go. So there you go. Thats the reason. So cricket coming back for the First Time Since would that be since 1900. And would that be welcomed the game would welcomed in the game or would that just. Welcomed in the game or would tha yeah,1st. Welcomed in the game or would tha yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, i think so. Yeah, i think so. I think itd be good. Yeah, absolutely. And a small of racing and a small piece of racing history made at ripon yesterday. It was when a horse, of course. Yes a horse called what . A horse called what . Doom . Yes. Doom. Doom. Doom . Yes. Yes doom. I know. Were doomed. Know. Were all doomed. Well, youre all doomed. Well, youre all doomed. Thats the people that had money doom its the money on doom because its the shortest favourite shortest price. Favourite to lose since 1948. 25 to lose a race since 1948. 25 to 1 on was doom , though, tom lose no on was doom, though, tom lose no , 25 to 1 on. So it means that if you put £25 on him to do what, win or lose, you would win £1. Thats how certain. £1. Thats how certain. I cant do the maths on 25 to 1. Was this to win or lose. Yeah. Yeah. To win. So 25 to 1. So if you had £25 on doom so it was a nailed on cert. Correct. It would be like doomed was racing against you and me. Absolutely right. Absolutely right. Okay. So it was a cert. Okay. So it was a cert. It was it was going to win because it was 25 to 1. So youd only win £1 for every 25 you put only win £1 for every 25 you put on came second. And so its the shortest priced favourite to lose since 1948. And it was really heavily backed. So if you think point of putting £25 think the point of putting £25 on just to win one and it came in, came in second, say goodbye to you. Here we are on the what is it . Today is the 5th of september, 6th of september. And whose birthday is it today . Right. So id like you both to have go at this after izzy and have a go at this after izzy and her disastrous nick faldo. A couple of months ago guess a couple of months ago. British tennis icons,. So two british tennis icons, both their birthdays today. Both have their birthdays today. Lets a at these. So lets have a look at these. So one was in the us open final one who was in the us open final in 1997, were not seeing them yet. The other one semi final. There are , Greg Rusedski on there we are, Greg Rusedski on the left, tim henman, tim henman on the right. They both have the same birthday. Who oldest same birthday. Who is the oldest and do you think they are . Rusedskis the oldest. Rusedskis the oldest. Okay. How old do you reckon today . Is he . Yeah 42. How old is he . Yeah 42. How old is he . Yeah 42. 42. Is he. Well i think tim henman is the same age as me, so i think hes 40 and i reckon rusedskis a couple of years older well. Rusedskis a couple of years old ill well. Rusedskis a couple of years old ill go ell. Rusedskis a couple of years old ill go 43. Ill go 43. Ill go 43. Greg is 50. Greg is 50. No , hes 50. No, hes 50. Tim 49 today. What tim 49 today. What 49 ill tell you a very interesting story, right . So i was going to get a i was seeing a doctor or something somewhere in london and i was in the waiting room and this guy was sitting opposite me and started talking to me. And it was Greg Rusedski. No, yeah, really . No, yeah, really . And he said to me, ive just got a new car. Absolutely amazing, right . I said, what is it . I said, what is it . Said, its called, its he said, its called, its the range rover vogue. Right. Yeah. Says, right, right. Yeah. He says, there said, do you want there it is. I said, do you want to drive it . Says, i yeah. To drive it . He says, i yeah. So i went outside and we got into his car and i know. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody tell you to speak anybody tell you not to speak to men . To strange men . What did i ever tell you about ruby wax meeting her in the surgery . No. Thats the doctors surgery . No. Thats a other story anyway. But thats. Did you go for ride in her did you go for a ride in her car . Did you play tennis against her . I meant in the dentist once. Right. Charles dance. Where do you go . Wheres these places . You go . You go . Dontes these places . You go . You go . Dont answere places . You go . You go . Dont answer that,es . You go . You go . Dont answer that, charles. Go . Dont answer that, charles. Dont answer that, charles. Its going to be, isnt it . Honestly, charles, dance. Once. And then once. And then once. Whats name . Liz hurley. Whats his name . Liz hurley. Whats his name . Hugh grant. Hugh grant. Hugh grant. Hugh hugh grant. Hugh grant. Hugh grant. Hugh grant. He was. Where was he . He was in the doctors one day as well. Well, i never. Well, i never. Well, i never. Yeah. Yeah. God, yeah. God, yeah. Its a good program. Their celebrity doctors. Ill tell you what, i think its done, but its already been done, but i think ill just go hang out think ill just go and hang out around the outside of the doctors. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is just general gp. Is this is just a general gp. Is it just in the area . It just in the surrey area . I dont think so. Ive particular complaints. Okay very much indeed. Paul 637 is the time, right . 637 is the time, right . Stay with us. Were going to be looking at claims of a conflict of interest test involving the education secretarys husband. Thats in todays were going todays papers. Were going through them with Charlie Rowley and next. Right. Lets bring you up to date with whats happening on the newspaper front. And these are the front pages. The telegraph is leading with the crackdown on sickness benefits being delayed until 2025. Ft reports on Birmingham City council declaring itself bankrupt. Weve already discussed that in the programme and express the immigration minister Robert Jenrick says france needs to do more to stop channel boat crossings as and heres the star reporting on the digger driver who smashed his digger driver who smashed his digger through the great wall of china. And apparently he did it china. And apparently he did it because as it stopped him going the length of the wall and turning around. So it was a shortcut to work. Right. And its a real mixed bag of lead stories on the papers, which is always really nice when youre going through the papers to have lots of different stories to go through. Were going through them in more detail the former special detail with the former special adviser michael gove, charlie detail with the former special adviser rolly,hael gove, charlie detail with the former special adviser rolly, rolly, ove, charlie detail with the former special adviser rolly, rolly, ove, ciislie rowley, rolly, rolly, rolly, is it the former it okay . Rolly and the former labour adviser, scarlett maguire. Ive that maguire. I think ive got that one scarlett, were going maguire. I think ive got that on start scarlett, were going maguire. I think ive got that on start scyou,t, were going maguire. I think ive got that onstart scyou,actually,|oing to start with you, actually, really interesting the way the different papers are covering this to work this benefit story. Back to work , drive says the , drive shelved, says the telegraph. Whereas the mail telegraph. Whereas the mail saying 1 million on sickness benefit will to find a job. Benefit will have to find a job. I know actually this is a really shocking story. So the people who are on sickness benefits because of high anxiety, which means that they cant leave the house or or or mobility issues , i. E. They cant leave the house or or or mobility issues , he most of or mobility issues, he most of them are in wheelchairs or on masses of crutches. They cant walk and are being told that theyre going to have their benefits slashed if they dont go back to work. Instead of being told actually you can work from zoom and we will help you to do it. And i mean, most people are on benefits would really, really like to have a job. Its much better. Really, really like to have a job. Its much better. I mean, you know, if youre on if youre on sickness benefits, they are pretty low and to then say and youre going to have it cut if youre going to have it cut if you dont get a job rather than lets help you get into work and actually the charities like multiple sclerosis and scope are really, really worried about whats going to happen. But i mean, you said it. These are people who have anxiety problems about leaving the house have mobility the house or have mobility issues, the home. Issues, leaving the home. Theyre candidates from theyre perfect candidates from work, home. Its all the work, from home. Its all the way this framed. I mean, way that this is framed. I mean, if can help work from if you can help people work from home, off benefits, thats home, get off benefits, thats got a good thing. And got to be a good thing. And thats thats a big plus. Also saves us a huge amount of money. I think the incapacity and illness bill is £26 billion. If you think about how much our schools. No, no, no, no, isabel, of course, what im saying is most these people would like to get back to work, actually they back to work, but actually they need right . And instead of need help, right . And instead of saying were going to slash your benefits , back and they do benefits, get back and they do have to get a job to begin with. And actually, most jobs that you do from home, you do have to go in occasionally, quite often a couple of times a week. But actually, what they need is help rather than. And it is it is being shown that that that the you know, theres a carrot and the stick and the sticks dont work. Right. They just frighten people. Its that age old saying of just focusing on what people can do rather than what they cant do. And i think mel stride, the working pensions secretary, has said assessment of said that the assessment of people in terms of incapacity benefit out of work benefit benefit and out of work benefit is decades that is sort of decades old. So that needs reviewed to make needs to be reviewed to make sure that we are encouraging people into work to sure people into work to make sure that, say, that benefit that, as you say, that benefit bill comes down saves the bill comes down and saves the taxpayer a lot of dosh. Regards the boats so as regards the boats issue, whos fault is that ours or france is . And this is front page of the express thats right. I mean, its and its in a number of other papers as well. And its, you know, the Prime Ministers fifth priority to stop boats. And its an stop the boats. And its an issue that i think lots of people care about when it comes to the general election. And its saying that its essentially saying that we need to tougher with belgium, need to be tougher with belgium, tougher france more tougher with france and be more like seem to have like belgium, who seem to have been able to stop about 90, they claim , of boat crossings that claim, of boat crossings that come into to belgium. So how are they doing that, charlie . Do we know belgium . Tougher theres a tougher interception of the boats and they are actually turning them back mainland europe. Back into into mainland europe. Were seeing migrant but were seeing a migrant crisis right across europe. So italy has seen about 50. How are they that . And how are they doing that . And theres big outcry about theres no big outcry about that, the boats around. That, turning the boats around. I mean, you imagine if that happened that were happened here that we were turning no youre not turning around . No youre not welcome here. Back to france is thered outcry. Thered be an outcry. Well, and thats thats part of the problem were of the problem because were seeing french vessels accompany some boats , the small some of the boats, the small boats into uk waters because unless a vessel, according to france, unless a vessel is actually in difficulty, then it wont intervene because if its sailing plain sailing into to uk waters, then then itll just be for the uk authorities to look after these people thereafter. But i think look, the immigration minister Robert Jenrick is absolutely right to identify that we need to do more and particularly the and particularly put the pressure france to do more. Pressure on france to do more. Were paying them a of were paying them a hell of a lot more money. Are working lot more money. They are working apparently quite well with border force and the home office, but clearly were still seeing boat seeing the number of boat crossings across that channel, even though its now, even though its down now, apparently this 20 this apparently in this this 20 this august compared to last. But we have seen a choppier waters. You know, the weather is only going to get better, it might seem, this week. So might see more this week. So we might see more increases people taking increases in people taking that crossing. To do more crossing. But we have to do more and france have to have to pull their do to help their weight and do more to help us achieve that goal of stopping the boats. But actually, they they i mean, is it . They stop mean, what is it . They stop 330,000. I they they have 330,000. I mean, they they have stopped of stopped masses and masses of crossings. Whats crossings. But i mean, whats more interesting what you say more interesting is what you say is, the migration crisis, the is, is the migration crisis, the european migration crisis is getting worse as people flee. Getting worse as people flee. And we have a choice. We can be fortress britain and actually be really honest and say were not going to take anybody. We dont care whether youre a refugee or not, or we can actually process Asylum Seekers properly and get rid the people who are rid of the people who are economic migrants have the economic migrants and have the other and stop other people here and stop having millions and spending 6 million a day on hotels. Thats million a day on hotels. Thats the scandal. Yeah. No, totally. Well, so yeah. No, totally. Well, so red carpet last night, National Television , asian awards. And television, asian awards. And this morning i didnt win anything yet again. They got booed. They got booed. Apparently. Apparently. Apparently. Yes. And apparently the audience were just chanting and bnng audience were just chanting and bring back eamonn. Well, bring back eamonn. Well, obviously. Eamonn they are. Obviously. Eamonn they are. I thought i thought actually , thought i thought actually, really, i leave this story to you because also the big, big story, the suns front page because obviously this is the biggest story in britain is that Phillip Schofield has stopped following Holly Willoughby on, on, on tiktok and instagram and everything. Everything. I mean, you know, this is the big story. And i mean, apparently this morning people were devastated because god forbid that there could be a better program. You know , that better program. You know, that actually won it. I mean, i here, i dont watch either, but i do hear the repair shop is terribly good. And maybe it was better. That surprised me was that i would never classify the repair shop as a daytime program. I shop as a daytime program. I mean, loose women is a daytime program and grand in the shed and whatever, but im not what i thought. I dont know what time the repair shops on either. I thought it was on. Ive heard its wonderful and its a beautiful. You ever watched it . No. My parents are big fans and ive heard a few interviews with the presenters about the amazing life main guy and life story of the main guy and how couldnt read and write how he couldnt read and write when left school. When he left school. On to have this and hes gone on to have this wonderful career. It comes to but when it comes to Television Awards and public vote, im in favour of the vote, im all in favour of the tric which i oh, given tric awards, which i oh, given this program and quite right, presenters, the thumbs up as well. Well, charlie, well have you back any day. You see, i thought id get that in. Heres a heres a poll that i thought if someone says to me, eamonn, can we have a picture . And youre on the red carpet, you smile and look awkward or whatever it is. Holly willoughby shoots her bum. So the pictures are all of her. So what she does is, you want a picture and then she turns her back side on to the to the camera. Do you see . I mean, thats not a particular pose. Its not a or its not just. Well, its so that youre not face on so that. Yeah well shes obviously got a very expensive couture gown and precisely very neat tailoring of the fishtail and it emphasises her curves of which shes very proud. Shes very proud. So there you go. So there you go. So there you go. Im doing that in future. Im doing that in future. Ill tell you. Ill tell you. Im. Im saying a picture and then have a look at this. No, no. And actually, actually, what you have to do is you have to wink, wink. That wink was wonderful. Eamonn yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Um oh, look, dear heart depressing. Too many, too many depressing. Too many, too many depressing. Too many, too many depressing stories there. How long have we gotten papers about 30s . Okay, forget that. Thank 30s . Okay, forget that. Thank you very much indeed. Charlie. Ronnie and Scarlett Mccgwire and. And. And theyll be back in about 40 minutes time. Thank you very much indeed. Right. Were talking about asian hornets now. Have you seen one . Been stung by one one . Have you been stung by one because a beekeeper has found a nest of them, in fact, an asian hornet in his garden hornet wasp in his garden marking the insects first appearance in london. Now conservationists are fearing that the Invasive Species has become established in the uk and is now spreading these are called killer hornets because of its attack on honeybees. But its also dangerous to humans. How worried should you be about that . Lets ask be about that . Lets ask wildlife presenter nigel marvin, who joins us now this morning. Nigel, very nice to see you. Good morning. Nice to see you again. Amen. Nice to see you again. Amen. And nigel, how do we know if were looking at an asian hornet . 7 theyve 7 theyve got a . Theyve got a dark body, a yellow face, an orange face, and yellow face, an orange face, and yellow legs. So the european hornet, which belongs here, doesnt have that same colour pattern. And the european hornet that we have here is a little bigger. The asian hornet is about an inch long. Three centimetres or so. Our real our hornets are a little larger. Hornets are a little larger. Presume they sting , give presume they sting, give a nasty sting. But more worryingly. Than nasty sting. But more worryingly. Than that, theyre not good for honeybees. And we know how important they are for our ecosystems and for our honey. Yeah, no, thats the problem. They first to france in they first came to france in 2004. Been 2082 records 2004. Theres been 2082 records in the uk in 2023, theyve destroyed nine nests. The nests are big, like a big ball of paper up in a tree if you see one. Dont go near it because they will come out and sting you and people have died in france from anaphylactic shock from being stung by them. I mean , you being stung by them. I mean, you know, theyre not really any more dangerous than out on it. But just dont go near a nest. And the thing is, they get a taste for bees so they can be a catastrophe for the beehives and the wild bees that we have in in the wild bees that we have in in the uk , they wait next to the the uk, they wait next to the hives when the bees come back , hives when the bees come back, they grab them, cut them up , they grab them, cut them up, take them back to feed to their babies. So theyre take them back to feed to their babies. So theyre a real problem. And in asia, where they come from , the bees there, they come from, the bees there, they know that theres these big predators waiting for them. So they zip into the nest really quickly. Dodged the bees. Quickly. They dodged the bees. They move into their nests fast. Our bees have no experience of these hornets. They just meander these hornets. They just meander in slowly and the hornets get them. Them. Nigel. Nigel, i know you say dont, dont, dont approach them, but i presume youre eager for people to report sightings of them as well. But what i want to ask you, is there an Invasive Species . But is this not just the evolution of life that, you know, the bigger predator wins out . Why why should we be particularly worried . Is it just honey making . Is that what were is that the problem . No its because they dont belong here. So they they came on a boat. They came in a cargo of pots to france in 2004. Then they started to spread. So they do not belong here. And our wildlife dont have any defences against these predators. Got you. Whereas it in asia the bees there do. There do. Its funny, weve just had an email in from kevin and alison watching us in shanklin in the isle of wight. Very good morning to you both. Thanks for getting in touch. We had one of these in our garden a few months it our garden a few months ago. It started to in a nest box started to nest in a nest box that we for the jenny wren. That we had for the jenny wren. Theyre big and aggressive, theyre very big and aggressive, so against so hes warning us against approaching those as well. But i mean, hearing about the mean, were hearing about the rise of killer mosquito rise of these killer mosquito shows well on shores shows as well on european shores and here the uk and perhaps even here in the uk. Say, this to do with the. Say, is this to do with the unusual weather that were all experiencing , dare i say, experiencing, dare i say, Climate Change . Yeah, the asian hornets, they would survive. Its not a Climate Change thing with them but definitely with the mosquitoes. Tiger mosquitoes that give dengue fever and some of these really horrible diseases because the winters are warmer, because the summers are hotter, they could breed here. These these big black and white mosquitoes. Theyve got a mosquitoes. Theyve got a painful bite. They could be a real problem in this country because of Climate Change and the warming. Summers i always the warming. Summers i always get bitten by everything. And one of those people that, you know, whether its mosquitoes and im actually allergic to bees, so im worried about reaction. I get about my reaction. If i get stung by a hornet, i could die. I could. Yeah. Dont get too excited. Going bring one excited. Hes going to bring one into the studio. But i definitely dont dont definitely dont approach your nest because they will come out of the nest on mass and defend it. So you know, if you see one as eamonn says report them but dont go near a nest. Dont try to pull it down yourself. Gosh. Gosh. Well, nigel, its very, very nice to see you. What are you up nice to see you. What are you up to these days . To these days . As im making a couple of films about saudi arabia. Yeah. So im going. Going there in a couple of weeks. Wildlife of saudi arabia. Its not much, is there, in saudi arabia. Terrible sort of theyre terrible sort of birds of prey and things totally persecuted and yeah , well, they persecuted and yeah, well, they theres a big tradition of falconry there. Um , and they dont they um, and they dont they protect actually the birds of prey, but they do hunt some other species with their , with other species with their, with their falcons that can sometimes be a problem, but otherwise theres quite a lot of good conservation going on there is there . Well, good man. You stay safe. Enjoy that. We look forward to seeing those films. And thanks very much for your take things this morning. Take on things this morning. Yeah, nice to speak to you. Thank you very much. Appreciate thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Nigel best. Nigel all the best. Oh, dont like the sound of oh, i dont like the sound of those hornets at all. If youve spotted one, let us know. Weve heard this morning been heard this morning theyve been in wight, are in the isle of wight, but are you going to tell me the ones that you dont spot that have me concerned . I lumps on places that i have lumps on places that you think i have. They got in there spiders spider bites. There that spiders spider bites. Didnt you think youd been bitten by a spider . Bitten on the face by a spider . Got inside my underpants. Got inside my underpants. Oh, gosh. Too early. Thats what telling you. What im telling you. Are flaps of my skin there are flaps of my skin that i think. That i think. No, no, no. Something. Someone me. Someone helped me. Something bitten in there. So something bitten in there. Do you want to look . Ill show. No, no, no. Were not doing that. But there are. There are. And then so. And then so. So and these bites come in twosomes. Right . So its not twosomes. Right . So its not like its not like an alien. Well maybe it could have been fangs or Something Like that, but have you ever woken up in the theres two the morning and theres two lumps on you and you think where did come from . Did that come from . Did happen . Because how did that happen . Because as dont see them as you say, you dont see them in the bed. You dont see anything about. But you think in the bed. You dont see anytthinkabout. But you think in the bed. You dont see anytthink itout. But you think in the bed. You dont see anytthink it could ut you think in the bed. You dont see anytthink it could be iou think in the bed. You dont see anytthink it could be spiders . You think it could be spiders . I think it could be spiders. Or it could just be this crazy weather. Get an update on weather. Lets get an update on the heres alex burkill. Things are heating looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Some of us are waking up to a bit of a cloudy, murky start, but most of that will clear away this morning to leave another sunny hot day, albeit with the risk of some thunderstorms later, taking at the later, taking a look at the details you can see, yes, details and you can see, yes, a cloudy picture down the eastern side of the Country First thing. But that cloud and any side of the Country First thing. But will that cloud and any side of the Country First thing. But will burn hat cloud and any side of the Country First thing. But will burn backloud and any side of the Country First thing. But will burn back towardsi any side of the Country First thing. But will burn back towards the fog will burn back towards the coast through morning, coast through the morning, leaving afternoon. Leaving a brighter afternoon. But some cloud lingering across eastern parts scotland, eastern parts of scotland, elsewhere across uk, plenty elsewhere across the uk, plenty of though, perhaps of sunshine, though, perhaps a bit cloud than recent days, bit more cloud than recent days, particularly across parts of Northern Ireland. At those Northern Ireland. Look at those temperatures higher temperatures a touch higher than yesterday, likely to get to highs around 32 or 33 celsius in the south east, which would make it the day of the year it the hottest day of the year so far. As go through the end so far. As we go through the end of the day, many places holding on to those clear skies, though, of the day, many places holding on are hose clear skies, though, of the day, many places holding on are hose cto r skies, though, of the day, many places holding on are hose cto seeies, though, of the day, many places holding on are hose cto see someough, of the day, many places holding on are hose cto see some showers we are going to see some showers , feeding up the , rain feeding up from the south. And could turn south. And this could turn heavy, even thundery, heavy, perhaps even thundery, particularly across central and western england into western parts of england into wales. Ireland. As wales. Also Northern Ireland. As we through the night, we go through the night, elsewhere, therell be some clear and perhaps a few clear spells and perhaps a few pockets of fog, but temperatures really dropping be really not dropping could be even so even warmer than last night. So not if you had not good news if you had difficulty through difficulty sleeping through thursday then that thursday morning, then that showery rain will continue to be heavy times and perhaps heavy at times and perhaps thunder it pushes further thunder as it pushes further northwards into parts of scotland and continuing down west and parts of wales into ireland too. Otherwise, again, plenty of sunshine and once more temperatures really rising well above average for the time of yeah above average for the time of year. Again, in the south east, we see highs of around 32 we could see highs of around 32 or 33 celsius as looks like things are heating up, boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on gb news, the concrete crisis crumbles on with fears that now hospitals could be affected. Hello there. Good to see you. Good have you on board. 7 00 good to have you on board. 7 00 is the time wednesday the 6th of september, across land, september, across the land, across youre tuned across the world, youre tuned into and gb news into breakfast and gb news eamonn and isabel Eamonn Holmes and Isabel Webster leading morning. Leading the news this morning. Facing the government is facing fresh over its role in fresh pressure over its role in the concrete crisis, with questions being about questions now being asked about how dealt how the Prime Minister dealt with chancellor with it when he was chancellor concern have meanwhile, concern lines have spread hospital spread to the state of hospital buildings nhs warns buildings as the nhs warns trusts emergency trusts to bolster emergency plans is present. A gb news exclusive. We speak to the group called to the group that called themselves the runners who themselves the blade runners who break vandalise ing break the law by vandalise ing ulez cameras around london. Break the law by vandalise ing ulez cablues around london. Break the law by vandalise ing ulez cablue plaques london. A the blue plaques scheme a hallmark the blue plaques scheme a hall itsk the blue plaques scheme a hall its to be expanded to the and its to be expanded to the rest of the country. We want to know like see know where would you like to see a near and for a blue plaque near you . And for who . Modesty prevents me from you think should on you think there should be one on your it. Oh, stop it. Oh, stop it. Stop it. Youre joining the clamour of people asking for that. But i do find them really interesting. I do find myself, if im in a taxi something, taxi or something, driving through london and craning my neck and them. And neck to try and read them. And i love to see, you know, really important and significant people. Well, one the people. Well, i saw one the other next to the bma in other day. Next to the bma in central cant Central London, and i cant remember who it was, but i thought it was quite it was charles right next to the Charles Darwin right next to the British Medical Association. Im not but it was not sure if it was, but it was someone quite it made me raise an eyebrow thought it was an eyebrow and i thought it was an eyebrow and i thought it was an interesting florence nightingale, i think is down in harley street somewhere and alfred i cant alfred hitchcock, i cant remember the name of the road, alfred hitchcock, i cant remimber the name of the road, alfred hitchcock, i cant remi thinkthe name of the road, alfred hitchcock, i cant remi thinkthe fascinating; road, alfred hitchcock, i cant remi thinkthe fascinating t0 ad, but i think its fascinating to think hitchcock, think that alfred hitchcock, this director here, this genius of a director here, and on a main road. And he lived on a main road. Yeah. Thought , but and he lived on a main road. Yeah. Thought, but but, yeah. And i thought, but but, you know, suppose hes in central but it was all Central London. But it was all very nice see. Used to have very nice to see. I used to have in the first place in belfast the first place i ever bought was an apartment, right. Yeah. And the tour buses twigged on to where you were on the map and they would bring people round. And i wasnt even on national tv then and they would say, and theres Eamonn Holmes. Theres Eamonn Holmes lives up there. I thought that was nice for security. I wouldnt like that. I wouldnt like that. That was nice. Anything else . That was nice. Anyway, its going to be great anyway, its going to be a great day sightseeing day if youre out sightseeing today. Alex burkill will tell you. Good morning. You more. Good morning. Once any low cloud and fog clears away, there will again be plenty of hot sunshine around with perhaps temperatures a touch higher than yesterday. Ill have more later. Well as the concrete crisis crumbles on nhs, england has written to trusts telling them to bolster their emergency plans if the concrete in question is present in hospital beds. Okay. This follows a new government guidance to schools, so weve got schools, hospitals. What type of building is next . Well, Catherine Forster gb news, Political Correspondent joins us live from westminster this crisis rumbling on for the government. And meanwhile, the government. And meanwhile, the education secretary his husband is also making front page news this morning. Is also making front page news this morning. News of a £1 this morning. News of a £1 million. It contract linked to school rebuild adding tell us more about all of that. Yeah yes more about all of that. Yeah yes not the best look is it though . No suggestion of any wrongdoing either on the part of the education secretary or her husband. This story splashes the husband. This story splashes the front page of the daily mirror. Basically, the education secretarys husband, a company that hes associated with, was awarded £1 Million Contract to supply servers as part of the governments schools, rebuild building programme. Now, labour building programme. Now, labour as you would expect, have come out. Bridget phillipson, the shadow education secretary, saying that this represents a gross conflict of interest. And gross conflict of interest. And certainly there is a lot of pressure on the education secretary. She isnt there. Not secretary. She isnt there. Not just the hot mic moment. The other day, but a number of comments that have been made and pressure on rishi sunak to become cause. Of course, it emerged yesterday from the schools minister, nick gibb , schools minister, nick gibb, that while rishi sunak was chancellor there, the department for education had asked for funding to refurbish or renew 200 schools a year and were only given 50. And that decision was taken by the then chancellor , taken by the then chancellor, now Prime Minister rishi sunak. Now rishi sunak has tried very hard to basic make out that this is all nothing to do with him. I is all nothing to do with him. I think thats line is going to be rather difficult to hold. And rather difficult to hold. And also first, Prime Ministers questions back today. So questions back today. So i suspect that keir starmer will be using most of his question ons on this concrete crisis , ons on this concrete crisis, which, as you say, looks like it is likely to spread even further , claiming that theyve raised this issue in parliament 180 times and that the government is merely shrugging its shoulders in all of this. But at the same time, here we are talking about Birmingham City council this morning, a labour run council. Theyve run out of money. Are they any better these better being trusted with these sorts . Sorts of things . Well, in a way, this concrete crisis is its the worst possible start back for the conservatives, for rishi sunak, you know, wanting to have a bit of a reset. But certainly only the news that the europes biggest council , birmingham biggest council, birmingham labour run representing over a Million People has now effective gone bankrupt will definitely be seized on by the conservatives who are bound to say look , this who are bound to say look, this is what happens when you put labourin is what happens when you put labour in charge. They cant manage the money. They splash the cash. This is where it ends up. Of course, worse , saying up. Of course, worse, saying councils have been under a lot of pressure. Birmingham is not the First Council to go bankrupt. Theres also been conservative councils such as northampton last year , but it is much the last year, but it is much the biggest and the fact that its now going to only be able to provide real essential services is very, very bad news for the people of birmingham and of course the people that use the Council Services the most tend to be the people who are the poorest and as so often its going to hit them hardest. Okay , catherine, thank you okay, catherine, thank you very much indeed. You mentioned very much indeed. You mentioned essential services there. And after years of Remote Learning because of covid, how is this concrete crisis impacting on pupils and indeed their Mental Health . Well, Patrick Regan is the founder of kintsugi hope. I hope ive got that right. The Mental Health charity. A very good morning to you, patrick. And look, this has got to be stressful, not for only parents and teachers, but for the kids who are old enough to understand whats going on. Yeah 100. You know, and obviously , ive you know, and obviously, ive heard lots of conversations about the economic implications , but what about the human implications . I think that is huge. And, you know, our young people havent been through covid. And ive even heard people say, oh, no , is this people say, oh, no, is this covid rerun . You know, the pressure their mental and pressure on their mental and Emotional Health and we forget that just about that school isnt just about academic achievement. Its about finding sense of belonging, finding a sense of belonging, finding a sense of belonging, finding friends , teamwork. Just finding friends, teamwork. Just imagine if youre in year seven at the moment. You know, transitioning into secondary school and not quite knowing. School and not quite knowing. Im going to meet my friends on zoom whos my teacher to zoom whos my teacher going to be, and so i think we really need to try and support these young people in their and young people in their mental and emotional we can. And also, patrick, not only that, theyre Economic Situation worsens as well. I work for a charity which studies basically tech , tech, poverty and thats a tech, tech, poverty and thats a real thing. People cant afford wi fi. They cant afford these laptops and handheld devices and all sorts of things. And so not everybodys equal in this. Not remotely, are they equal in this. 100. Yeah, its a great point. Eamonn because i think that this always hits the poorest and also hits those with Additional Needs as well. You know , ive got kids as well. You know, ive got kids with Additional Needs and it always hits them the hardest. You know, ive been involved in youth about years youth work for about 30 years and see, you know, people and you see, you know, people struggling at home sometimes, sometimes home is not a safe place. Traumatic place place. Its a traumatic place for people, you know, and wi fi is dodgy. Parents cant take time off work for some of them. You know, remember that schools provide breakfast clubs and after school clubs. And so after school clubs. And so youre 100 right. Its the poorest and those with Additional Needs hardest. Additional needs the hardest. And we to think about. I mean, when i think my i mean, when i think of my upbringing, of, you upbringing, i think of, you know, the modern but i know, the modern phrase. But i do there was a sort do think there was a sort of resilience was inbuilt in resilience that was inbuilt in all us, certainly eamons all of us, certainly eamons upbringing. You think of upbringing. 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But if you havent got havent got got money, you havent got money, explain money, but just explain how Serious Health serious this Mental Health crisis were crisis is that were all experiencing young people. Experiencing in young people. Were numbers were seeing a record numbers of people eating people self harming, eating disorders , whether thats disorders, whether thats social media, whatever , for our media, whatever, for our youngsters happy. They youngsters arent happy. They arent , lot them , no. Arent well, a lot of them, no. I think its 100 arent well, a lot of them, no. I think its100 right. And i think we need to provide support. You know, the stats that come out, 52 of 17 to 23 year olds have been struggling with their Mental Health. And thats huge. You know, and we hear a lot of stats on telly. But, you know, every stat is a person is an individual. Its a family thats going through. And i feel like weve got to support those working in those that are working in the grassroots , you know, grassroots, you know, the voluntary sector, faith voluntary sector, the faith sector, are living it sector, those that are living it out. And i know for myself , we out. And i know for myself, we run a charity called kintsugi hope , which is a japanese word hope, which is a japanese word that golden joinery, which that means golden joinery, which means break something, we means if you break something, we tend it. With superglue, tend to mend it. With superglue, we pretend we hide the cracks, we pretend its broken. But what they we hide the cracks, we pretend itsin broken. But what they we hide the cracks, we pretend itsin japan;en. But what they we hide the cracks, we pretend itsin japan is. But what they we hide the cracks, we pretend itsin japan is they what they we hide the cracks, we pretend itsin japan is they putat they we hide the cracks, we pretend itsin japan is they put a they we hide the cracks, we pretend itsin japan is they put a gold do in japan is they put a gold powder glue. So instead powder in the glue. So instead of they make of hiding the cracks, they make a the cracks to a feature of the cracks to arguably, beauty comes out of brokenness. And theres brokenness. And i think theres a metaphor for a message there for metaphor for life beauty can come life saying beauty can come out of brokenness and i think we need to support our kids. You know, it is they need , um, not know, it is they need, um, not just our compassion. They need just our compassion. They need alternatives. And thats what the government need to grapple with the moment. With at the moment. And they need routine and security. And isabel mentioned security. And isabel mentioned my, my schooling in belfast and it wasnt only just about the academic side of things, it was about the sense of security that school gave me and the sense of belonging. And we had a very belonging. And we had a very long driveway and there were big gates at the bottom of it, and the gates would be locked out and basically you werent allowed out of school because it was too dangerous. I mean, just was too dangerous. I mean, just all around there were riots, there fights there were fights over everything. Saint everything. And what saint malachys college in belfast offered was sanctuary and offered me was sanctuary and oasis, and we could continue a life that was detached from the reality that was going on outside. And thats the thing. Outside. And thats the thing. Friendship ships were formed and, you know, it just was safety. It just felt so good. And often i would leave school and feel unsafe and id so i think we cant underestimate rate for young people a sense of belonging, a sense of routine , a belonging, a sense of routine, a sense of normalness by going to school. School. Yeah. And if you struggle with anxiety routine is actually really, really important. And that sense of belonging because i think belonging and fitting in are two very different things. Are two very different things. And, and thats where you get those skills, those interaction skills , dont you, at your local skills, dont you, at your local school, you know, and ive done quite a lot of work in belfast and seen the effort that and ive seen the effort that theyve, been to theyve, theyve been to actually create that sense actually to create that sense of belonging in some of the schools there. And i think its absolutely , you know, and absolutely vital, you know, and these young people, theyve been through so much. I mean, just think about it, you know, for a couple of years of their life, they had a death counsellor on their tv screens every single day. Thats anxiety day. Yeah. If thats not anxiety inducing , day. Yeah. If thats not anxiety inducing, you day. Yeah. If thats not anxiety inducing , you know, weve had inducing, you know, weve had the death of george. Oh, patrick, i hope patrick comes in and talks to us in studio here much longer next time. About what . What he was highlighting there and he , hes highlighting there and he, hes the founder of a charity which is a Mental Health charity for kids who were just talking about how, again being told youre not going to school, how, again being told youre not going to school , things are not going to school, things are not going to school, things are not going to school, things are not going to normal. All going to be normal. Thats all right. For 2 or 3 days, you think a couple of off think a couple of days off school or whatever. School this week or whatever. But home, would school this week or whatever. But want home, would school this week or whatever. But want to. Home, would school this week or whatever. But want to. I home, would school this week or whatever. But want to. I dont me, would school this week or whatever. But want to. I dont think would not want to. I dont think i would flourish with home education. Oh, it was the hardest thing ive ever done during lockdown with my children. And i adore children. But trying work children. But trying to work and balance demands children children. But trying to work and bathe e demands children children. But trying to work and bathe e timeinds children children. But trying to work and bathe e time really, children children. But trying to work and bathe e time really, really,en at the same time really, really, really tough and hard on the kids. Were going to talk now kids. Were going to talk now about a gb news exclusive. This is about a group that called themselves the ulez blue runners, vigilantes who are actually breaking the law by vandalising ultra low emission zone cameras around london. So what do you think of that . Heres a report. Heres a report. This is what one man can do to the ulez in less than half a day. Day. Some call them vigilantes , some call them vigilantes, others criminals. They call themselves thieves. The ulez blade runners , around 100 blade runners, around 100 activists, all using any means necessary to disable cameras, taking the fight against the london mayors clean air policy to the streets. Lee is part of to the streets. Lee is part of a small group of saboteurs who go out most weeks speaking exclusively on camera to gb news, he says sadiq khan is targeting the citys most vulnerable to charge the poorest of people to drive around is unacceptable. Unacceptable. Sadiq khan talks about the fact that nine out of ten of cars are compliant. If nine if nine cars out of ten are compliant. But who are the 1 in 10 . The 1 in 10 are the poorest 10 . The 1 in 10 are the poorest people , the ones who cant people, the ones who cant afford a compliant car. People, the ones who cant afford a compliant car. So afford a compliant car. So theyre the ones who are charging. So therefore its a tax the poor. Its that tax on the poor. Its that simple. Simple. But the mayor of london disputes that claim. To expand and the decision to expand and the low emission zone to the ultra low emission zone to all of london was a difficult one. It wasnt an easy one, but i think vital decision i think its a vital decision andifs i think its a vital decision and its the right one. Let me tell you why we now know the evidence in relation to the consequences of air pollution. It leads to around 4000 premature deaths a year. At least two children have stunted lungs forever. Adults with a whole host of Health Issues from asthma cancer to dementia to asthma to cancer to dementia to heart disease. We also now know heart disease. We also now know that one of the most effective ways to reduce air pollution is with us. How do we know that in Central London weve seen a reduction of around 50 of toxicity. Nitrogen dioxide also toxicity. Nitrogen dioxide also a third fewer children being admitted to hospital with air pollution related illnesses. The blade runners are supported by an Online Community that maps the location of londons almost 2700 ulez cameras. The red pins show working units. The black ones working units. The black ones have been disabled. Have been disabled. I will normally go around on the groups to see posts or pictures of people that have put up with cameras, particularly the new ones. If theyve just been put up near to where i live. And then yeah, ill literally make a note of that, jot that down and then ill arrange a date as to when ill go out and ill deal with that camera on that specific evening. According to the met crimes relating to ulez, cameras rocketed by 77 in august, lee says hes personally disabled more than 60 cameras in the last year. Yeah hes developed his own technique, which bypasses tfls security measures in a matter of seconds. Gb news security measures in a matter of seconds. Gb news has security measures in a matter of seconds. Gb news has decided not seconds. Gb news has decided not to show footage of the way the cameras might be disabled to avoid the risk of copycats. Its important to stress, of course, that what youre doing is illegal. Do you consider yourself to be a criminal . Yourself to be a criminal . Im not. Im not a criminal in any in any way, shape or form. Um, you know , im just. Um, you know, im just literally im doing what i believe is right and ill stand by that and ill sit on that hill until the time comes when im not no longer allowed to. Although tfl says the ulez expansion will Bring Health Benefits to a further 5 Million People living in greater london, lee questions that justification , saying this has nothing to do with air pollution. You know, weve seen videos, theres Video Evidence of People Living in houses with black mould and mushrooms growing off the wall. So this notion that 4000 deaths a year from car pollution is utter nonsense. Pollution is utter nonsense. Other groups would strongly disagree. Leo murray is director disagree. Leo murray is director of innovation at possible the Climate Action group. Basically about half of the air pollution, the stuff thats in the air that is dangerous to human health is out in the environment, not inside our homes. About half of that comes homes. About half of that comes from motor traffic. So, you know , this is not in dispute. This is extremely well understood science. Meanwhile, lee is adamant that the blade runners will not stop their sabotage. Stop their sabotage. Theres enough of us, myself included , where were not going included, where were not going to give up. Were not going to give up until either all them cameras tfl and cameras are gone or tfl and steve khan or the next mayor turns around and scraps us, scraps the idea completely. Scraps the idea completely. A transport for london spokesperson said the ulez is vital in tackling the triple challenges of air pollution , the challenges of air pollution, the Climate Emergency and congestion and vandalism on our network is unacceptable and all incidents are reported to the police for investigation. Action, criminal investigation. Action, criminal damage to ulez cameras puts the perpetrators at risk of prosecution and life changing injuries while simultaneously risking the safety of the public. Risking the safety of the pubuc. The risking the safety of the public. The ulez is not about making money and annual net revenue from ulez will fall below zero by 20 2627 as compliance increased as ray addison gb news is well, were joined in the studio by the leader of the climate party, ed gemmell, and i presume like us, ed, you would never condone any criminal activity. Criminal activity. No, absolutely not. I mean, i find it absolutely ridiculous. And the thing that im most worried about is where are all our it . You know, our mps condemning it . You know, where the labour where are the labour and conservative mps getting out there shouldnt there and saying this shouldnt be well, know is well, they know this is a vote winner vote loser. Vote winner or a vote loser. Once on. I would say this once its on. I would say this about the mayor of london. However, right or wrong he is, he got off on the wrong foot on this because initially people did not believe he was doing this for the environment. But this for the environment. But they believe this is a cash cow thatis they believe this is a cash cow that is filling a pension hole with. And its a its a Cash Generator for him. And he he hasnt been able to shake that really. Really. I think youre right, eamonn. I mean, i think they just right at beginning. It at the beginning. Lets get it clear criminal activity clear that criminal activity is absolutely wrong. Whereas people demonstrating number 10 demonstrating outside number 10 or city hall a or outside city hall is a completely different thing and should encouraged were should be encouraged when were talking been talking about the way its been introduced, been introduced, its clearly been introduced, its clearly been introduced so we wrote introduced wrongly. So we wrote to sadiq khan probably two months ago now, suggesting not that ulez was stopped, but that it was done a different way in a way actually worked way that actually worked for londoners against way that actually worked for lond0|so; against way that actually worked for lond0|so we against way that actually worked for lond0|so we suggested gainst way that actually worked for lond0|so we suggested you st way that actually worked for lond0|so we suggested you do it them. So we suggested you do it over five years. You start with £2. 50 the beginning, then £2. 50 at the beginning, and then you up you gradually grade it up towards £12, after towards £12, 50. After five years, would stop the spike years, that would stop the spike in the price of these second hand compliant cars that people are to buy but seem are trying to buy but just seem less punitive. Wouldnt less punitive. Oh, it wouldnt be edge people fall be a cliff edge that people fall off people could off automatically. People could adjust then the adjust to it. And then the second is and which would be second bit is and which would be great for the optic, but also great for the optic, but also great people are great for the people that are affected take of the affected is take all of the money made from it money thats being made from it and to after the and reapply it to look after the vulnerable director affected by the in terms of the scheme, both in terms of Small Businesses and the people that most affected by it as that are most affected by it as individuals. Case wouldnt that are most affected by it as indithe|als. Case wouldnt that are most affected by it as indithe thatsase wouldnt that are most affected by it as indithe thats smart wouldnt that are most affected by it as indithe thats smart and uldnt that are most affected by it as indithe thats smart and its1t get the thats smart and its reasonable and therefore then i think it would add to the suspicion that he needs the money and he needs it now. Yes i mean, you know, as far as i know , look, im sadiq khan, not , look, im not sadiq khan, not within ring. You within his thinking ring. You know, money to be know, the money is meant to be to for london to to going transport for london to do transport do good things for transport for london. That work london. But that doesnt work when it. And it when im looking at it. And it affects today , then i to affects me today, then i want to know if going to comply know if im going to comply and help cleaner get to help us get cleaner air. Get to net zero so that its not going to pocket today. So if to affect my pocket today. So if wed that, wed our wed done that, wed get our clean less clean air, wed get less pollution and wed actually affect people less. Look, as say, steve well, look, as you say, steve khanisnt well, look, as you say, steve khan isnt here, but he would say introduced say that theyve introduced europes largest the uks europes largest or the uks largest scrappage scheme as a result of this. Theyve extended it. There are these it. There are these huge subsidies for people who do want to down the scrappage line up to go down the scrappage line up to, like to, i think Something Like everybody is saying £2,000 doesnt new vehicle doesnt buy them a new vehicle or the vehicle that they want. And we see all that. The message the thing is, none of us in our right mind are going to object against cleaner air and a healthier environment and whatever. How bad is the whatever. And how bad is the situation and how much do we need to clean the air up, whether its in london, leeds, aberdeen , wherever . How bad is aberdeen, wherever . How bad is it . It . Look, im not an expert on air pollution itself, so i mean, i think we need to clean up the air everywhere and we need to make that our children and make sure that our children and all actually safe. You all of us are actually safe. You know, mean, i have breathing know, i mean, i have breathing problems occasionally and that sort thing. Want them sort of thing. I dont want them exacerbated by this, but weve got to do it a that works got to do it in a way that works for in terms the for everybody in terms of the money. You look money. And in that way you look after the vulnerable in the way you it to make sure they you do it to make sure they havent problem. I mean, havent had the problem. I mean, and we and on this, i think when we come it as well, all those come to it as well, all those criminals out there damaging those costing those cameras are costing us money us paying money and its us thats paying it. Out of it. Its not coming out of some magic money tree of government. Its to paid by its going to be paid by taxpayers london. So those taxpayers in london. So those criminals there actually criminals are out there actually making were making you and i. If were living london, more money living in london, pay more money next make up for the next year to make up for the fact that these things have been damaged. Us damaged. Theyre costing us money. And its we should have our our councillors out our mps and our councillors out there telling these people to stop getting people to go stop and getting people to go out and not come out and condone it. Like Ian Duncan Smith did, but actually come out and say, this is absolutely wrong. If you this is absolutely wrong. If you want take something up, this is absolutely wrong. If you want take something up , then want to take something up, then you take up directly with the you take it up directly with the mayor. Directly mayor. You take it up directly with the london authorities. You go and demonstrate. You write to your , do all those things, your mp, do all those things, and start a party. We and if not, start a party. We wanted to get Climate Change on the agenda. So we went out and started a party to get right in that process and take that democratic process and take action the best way we action in the best way we can. Do you a mayoral candidate do you have a mayoral candidate standing next year . A mayoral we wont have a mayoral candidate, but focussed on the if khan loses the election if sadiq khan loses the election next on this, how next year on all of this, how likely that will all likely is it that this will all be by whoever comes in . Be reversed by whoever comes in . Because one because we had one spokesperson saying this morning, people vote for morning, whoever people vote for next is to here stay next year, this is to here stay pretty therefore this pretty much. And therefore this is people are frustrated is why people are frustrated because they dont they because they dont feel they have way expressing their have any way of expressing their views on it. Im not sure the way of looking at it. I think when you come to the point of whats going to happen next is so many people already started people have already started complying. Theyve sold their cars, scrappage cars, theyve used the scrappage scheme, lifestyles. Hasnt so far. It hasnt so far. It hasnt so far. Right. Theyre right. And theyre already adjusting. Come to an adjusting. So if you come to an election next year and youre going to say to me, oh, now youre going to scrap it. So i spent all that and effort spent all that money and effort trying to get compliance out, and now youre going to force me to up having the benefit to end up not having the benefit of air, which i was of my clean air, which i was trying comply help with, trying to comply to help with, then im not going to happy. Then im not going to be happy. I the thing we i think the other thing we should is this was should remember is this was brought boris johnson, brought in by boris johnson, initially conservative, democratically elected control, viewed by sadiq khan, labour democratic, elected, encouraged by the department of transport. Grant shapps mp, democratically elected. This is part of the elected. This is part of the democratic process. I think it democratic process. I think it should be adjusted done in a better way, but i dont think were going to see the end of it. And to the bladerunners do you think they have of any chance of succeeding in stopping this . This . No, absolutely not. And i dont think anybody should ever comply or give in to people who use criminal action in order to make their point of view. Weve make their point of view. Weve had mps and many others go out and criticise, Just Stop Oil extinction rebellion. Many other groups for what theyve been doing and in some cases it hasnt been criminal. Some cases its actually been quite legal and those people that go out and those are people that go out and those are people that go out and faces and do it with their faces showing theyre quite happy to be known theyre doing it. Be known that theyre doing it. Theyre put themselves theyre going to put themselves forward charged, if forward to be charged, if necessary, by the police, and forward to be charged, if nece� theyrey the police, and forward to be charged, if nece� theyrey the ftoice, and forward to be charged, if nece� theyrey the fto allow d then theyre going to allow themselves to court. These themselves to go to court. These people are covering themselves up. With up. Theyre on television with their. So we dont their their voices. So we dont know are. We should we know who they are. We should we should be telling them if they really believe they really do believe in this, they should masks off and should take those masks off and go and demonstrate. Go out and demonstrate. Go. Go. Edgar, leader of climate edgar, leader of the climate party, thanks very much for talking this morning. Lots talking to us this morning. Lots of this of you getting in touch this morning. Impressed morning. Not impressed with this, too, dont this, alison says i, too, dont support criminal behaviour. What khanis support criminal behaviour. What khan is doing is criminal. How does charging people pollute does charging people to pollute change people change anything . A lot of people making can it making that point. How can it still okay if you pay the fee still be okay if you pay the fee and con says makes me laugh. £10 each time into sheffield and yet you see buses and taxis parked up with their engines running and no one them. Its an and no one in them. Its an absolute tax on the poor and just over and over again, ray allison jazz here, they all say how could it be morally right to be allowed to pollute by just paying be allowed to pollute by just paying a fee and that gets you off with them . Lets bring you up to date with what is happening. Newsnight newsnight with the time. 7 25, the head of the uks air Traffic Control has said the glitch that caused chaos at airports last week was a 1 in 15,000,000 occurrence. The nats chief executive of martin rolfe said one of their systems failed after it didnt process a flight plan properly. After it didnt process a flight plan properly. Be reasonable. Plan properly. Be reasonable. For of the five people on board the helicopter that crashed outside the Leicester City football stadium survived , football stadium survived, survived the initial impact. They died from the resulting fire. The pilot of the helicopter in the crash said ive no idea whats going on. Seconds before or mechanical failures caused the aircraft to spin out of control and holiday goers on the greek island of skiathos have been trapped without power or food after severe rainstorms battered the island , causing widespread flooding. Jet two said all flights due to depart the island on tuesday and wednesday have been cancelled , but added that its cancelled, but added that its monitoring forecast and will monitoring the forecast and will confirm departure as confirm new departure times as soon as possible. Were asking anyone watching this morning who perhaps in skiathos to in perhaps is in skiathos to get in touch us morning touch with us this morning and tell your stories. Tell us your stories. Vaiews gbnews. Com. Vaiews gbnews. Com. The pressure there is on all of us to have a holiday and make that holiday the best week or two weeks of your whole year year and then for it to go wrong with air Traffic Control delays. I mean, this guy saying its a 1 in 15,000,000 glitch, glitch. I in 15,000,000 glitch, glitch. I love how they use this term glitch. It was a disaster and it was on the busiest air traffic day of the year on that bank holiday. And so, i mean, that an incident in italy, people are still suffering the aftermath of that because they cant get home from where they are. I mean, i was speaking to someone this week who turned up at the airport and crews ran out of time. Planes are in the wrong position. Back to position. Its not back to normal its affecting normal and its still affecting people. That people. And then then that awful, scandalous thing that is awful, scandalous thing that is a living nightmare for, well, people being trapped in in the hotels and being told no food is running out and theyre taking in local families, local kitchens , rightly so. Kitchens, rightly so. And theyre told there could be 36 hours in there. So theyre out of food, theyre out of water. Lots of british people caught and as you say, caught up in it. And as you say, people save up all year to go on these holidays and think these holidays and you think youve school term youve got out of school term time, youve the air time, youve dodged the air traffic and then this happens. What a nightmare. What a nightmare. What a nightmare. Ever been has has it ever been worse . Has it ever worse . I mean, this it ever been worse . I mean, this daily occurrences, things, misery, depression , just just misery, depression, just just bad news. All the time. And Birmingham City council are broke, right . Theyve declared broke, right . Theyve declared themselves bankrupt. They were themselves bankrupt. They were hit with a £760 million bill that they werent expecting. And that they werent expecting. And this was to do with the quality of wages. I mean, rightly so. You cant pay a man more than youre a woman. And they youre paying a woman. And they had to balance the books with that, hadnt got that, except they hadnt got the money all that. Money to do all of that. So what to be done about so what is to be done about it . Speak to jack carson, it . Lets speak to jack carson, who joins us from birmingham. Who joins us from birmingham. Good you, jack. This good morning to you, jack. This is not a good look for the labour run council. Well no, its certainly not. Of course, having to put in that section 114 notice yesterday , they effectively yesterday, they effectively declaring themselves bankrupt because of the mismanagement of these equal pay claims that historic claims after a Supreme Court ruling back in 2012 and what its meant and it was only a few months ago that the council found this black hole of initially £760 million, now thought to possibly. Be over thought to possibly. Be over £1. 1 billion when the implemented a new Financial System that itself has had issues because that was meant to cost less than £20 million and thats implementation has ended up costing over £100 million. So the mismanagement of money within this council is certainly been an issue that the conservative lives are putting forward, saying that if labour cant run the council , how can cant run the council, how can they possibly run the country . Thats certainly been the view of quite a few mps across social media yesterday when they when the section the council put in that section 104 but of course the 104 notice. But of course the impact across birmingham am and services is where many residents here are concerned. Now councillor john cotton, who is the leader of the City Council Councillor john cotton, who is the lehes of the City Council Councillor john cotton, who is the lehes currently ty Council Councillor john cotton, who is the lehes currently on ouncil councillor john cotton, who is the lehes currently on holiday here, hes currently on holiday in new york and a planned break. But speaking over zoom, attending the Cabinet Meeting yesterday , he confirmed that yesterday, he confirmed that essential services would still be that includes things be funded. That includes things like and children and like adult and children and child social care. It includes child social care. It includes child safeguarding, Waste Collection as well as , of collection as well as, of course, Library Services as well. But where, of course, there couldnt be any commitments made was there was whether those services be whether those services would be delivered the same delivered in exactly the same way. That means that bin collections here possibly might go every weeks rather than, go every two weeks rather than, say, one week. And for say, every one week. And for example, Library Services. Well, example, Library Services. Well, that means that libraries might well be open different times, well be open at different times, might be closing earlier. Now, heading the colder months, heading into the colder months, a lot of libraries across the country of the warm country are part of the warm bank scheme, wherein the bank scheme, places wherein the cost of Crisis Councils cost of living Crisis Councils are opening up their public spaces in order for people who maybe cant afford the heating at home to be able to stay somewhere warm. So concern for residents, those residents, particularly those that are financially struggling here, that if those those libraries because of the financial situation this council is in are closing earlier, they might themselves be impacted and of course, theres also the issue of council tax and whether the council here might well have special compensation dispensation raise dispensation to raise the council tax above that 4. 99 limit. So concerns for residents here as the council undergo these financial troubles. These financial troubles. Jack, thanks very much indeed. Raise your council tax beyond 5. Lets get the Weather Forecast. At least its looking good. Yeah. Heres alex. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Some of us are waking up to a bit of a cloudy, murky start, but most of that will clear away this morning to leave another sunny albeit with the sunny hot day, albeit with the risk some thunderstorms later risk of some thunderstorms later. Taking a look at the details and a cloudy and you can see, yes, a cloudy picture the eastern side of picture down the eastern side of the Country First thing. But most and any fog most of that cloud and any fog will towards coast will burn back towards the coast through , leaving a through the morning, leaving a brighter afternoon. But some cloud lingering across eastern parts scotland, elsewhere parts of scotland, elsewhere across the uk, plenty of sunshine, though perhaps a bit more recent days, more cloud than recent days, particularly across parts of northern look at those Northern Ireland. Look at those temperatures touch higher than temperatures a touch higher than yesterday, to yesterday, likely to get to highs 32 or 33 celsius in highs around 32 or 33 celsius in the south east, which would make it the hottest day of the year. So far as we go through the end of the day, many places holding on clear skies, though, on to those clear skies, though, we some showery we are going to see some showery rain feeding from south. Rain feeding up from the south. And could turn heavy, and this could turn heavy, perhaps even thundery, particularly central and particularly across central and western england western parts of england into wales. Northern ireland as wales. Also Northern Ireland as we go through the night, elsewhere , therell some elsewhere, therell be some clear perhaps a few clear spells and perhaps a few pockets temperatures pockets of fog, but temperatures really dropping. Really not dropping. Could be even last night. So even warmer than last night. So not good news. If you had difficulty sleeping through thursday , then that thursday morning, then that showery continue to be showery rain will continue to be heavy at times and perhaps thunder as pushes thunder as it pushes further northwards parts of northwards into parts of scotland and continuing down the western parts of wales into ireland otherwise again , ireland to otherwise again, plenty of sunshine and once more temperatures really rising. Well above average for the time of yeah above average for the time of year. Again in the east, we could highs of around 32 or could see highs of around 32 or 33 celsius. 33 celsius. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news 736 is the time. Still to come on our program this morning, 8 20. Were asking should grandparents provide Free Childcare for their grandchildren . Im laughing because ive just had a message in the last few seconds from my mum saying poppy safely delivered school and got delivered to school and she got my marks. My high marks. Bill today . Whats the bill today . Whats the bill today . Love cuddles anyway, just love and cuddles anyway, is living crisis is the cost of living crisis continues bite. We ask should continues to bite. We ask should grandparents be paid helping grandparents be paid for helping out . I hope not. Or is it their duty . After or is it their duty . After 9 00, pat mcfadden from labour talking about his partys plans to expose the concrete crisis and whether or not the general Election Campaign is already underway. Underway. And get in touch. You can talk to us about any of the topics were covering. This morning. Vaiews gbnews. Com or you can tweet or x us at. You can tweet or x us at. Gb news. Doo doo doo. Doo doo doo. I think id make a good conductor. Yeah, you do. But a conductor in here of a morning sometimes, dont you . Do anyway, the proms it is the proms. And then theres last night at the proms and everybody gets well they obviously take a few dnnks well they obviously take a few drinks and whatever and they wave and they all wave flags and they all whatever, whatever, whatever. And celebrate classic music and they celebrate classic music. Now the proms is an event that stretches through the summer. It dates back to the 19th century. However recently some have levelled criticism at the event, taking issue with , among other taking issue with, among other things, the swinging of the singing. I think of rule britannia says swinging, but you never know and accompanied by flag waving. Apparently its a staple of the festivities. But do they have a point . Is it time the proms changed its ways to become more modern . Well, not according to paul, whos been in touch this morning. Thanks for your email, oh, goodness. My email, paul. Oh, my goodness. My blood gone through Blood Pressure has gone through the the matter the roof. What is the matter with people . Why cant with these people . Why cant they leave our british institutions alone . I shall be watching the last night of the proms at the weekend, as i have done since a child. Done for decades since a child. I dressed up my i will get dressed up in my union. Will union. Jack dress. I will decorate the with bunting, decorate the room with bunting, pour and tonic and enjoy pour a gin and tonic and enjoy a night of patriotism with my husband. It wasnt husband. Good. It wasnt actually. I saying the man. Actually. I was saying the man. Anyway. In front anyway. My husband in front of the which be on full the tv, which will be on full blast. Pauline. Blast. Thats from pauline. Maybe head round pauline. Maybe we head round to on saturday night. To your house on saturday night. Pauline. Sounds good. So when i speak Heydel Mankoo speak to rafe Heydel Mankoo royal broadcaster and historian whos very much hes a mr. Proms man, hes in favour of that. And beside ralph is katie massey. Beside ralph is katie massey. Now, katie, youre a Classical Musical consultant specialising in diverse city of Classical Music. So in diverse city of Classical Music. So when in diverse city of Classical Music. So when people talk about music. So when people talk about changing the proms or bringing it up to date or whatever , what it up to date or whatever, what do you think is meant by that . Katie and can you give us a sort of indication of maybe what is the music that you would get that would have people standing on their feet . On their feet . So Classical Music is , um, so Classical Music is, um, largely rooted in recreated historical music and when people go to listen to Classical Music andindeed go to listen to Classical Music and indeed perform it, they have , um, a huge amount of the joy that they have from that is in knowing the music and, and being able to sing along and feeling really connected with that and remembering the other times when theyve heard it. So really theyve heard it. So i do really understand um , the history understand the, um, the history of the, uh, of the occasion and obviously the flag waving event at the end of the proms is the most seminal example of that. Most seminal example of that. But um , the history of that, we but um, the history of that, we are celebrating in doing that is, is in british history is one of imperialism and colonialism. Of imperialism and colonialism. Um, and i just think that in 2023 we need to be thinking about what it is that were waving our flags to and whether these still ideals that we these are still ideals that we want to be. Okay. Well lets get the views of ralph rafe Heydel Mankoo view. Heydel mankoo that view. There, shared katie expressed there, shared by harry and meghans cellist from their wedding. She says she doesnt really understand why there is a space in modern society for this kind of harking back to imperial times. Do you agree . Agree . I dont. You know, and im just im so tired of all of this, this constant introspection from, you know, the bbc and our elite institutions as navel gazing, self loathing almost. Its corrosive and its nihilistic to, you know , the fabric of our to, you know, the fabric of our nation. The reality here is, of course, is that our cultural elites, the bbc and others, are embarrassed by patriotism. Um, embarrassed by patriotism. Um, it reminds me of George Orwells famous quote you may remember when he said an english intellectual would be more ashamed to be caught standing to god save the king than stealing from a church poor box. You know, they have a sneering contempt for the Great British publics love for the nation. But it is the Great British pubuc but it is the Great British public the licence fee. Public who pay the licence fee. And its Great British and its the Great British pubuc and its the Great British public love to watch this, public who love to watch this, not Television Sets , but not just on Television Sets, but in years from great in recent years from great pubuc in recent years from great public erected around public screens erected around around the nation. And we know what will happen if they do remove these songs from from the proms because happened in proms because it happened in 2020 outrageously 2020 when the bbc outrageously decided to ban rule britannia and land of hope and glory before they had to do an embarrassing u turn, they lost 40 viewers. 40 of their viewers. Kate, would you have any objection to you . Listen to rayas argument there and why not just leave it to those who want to swing their flags and do everything that they do at the end of the proms, put it on subscription if you want, but surely its their event. Let them have their event. Why dont you have your own event . You have your own event . Well, i think that, you know, the point that this represents the point that this represents the views of the Great British pubucis the views of the Great British public is not necessarily it doesnt represent the views of all of them. Right. And obviously, for people who want to wave their flags to rule britannia, not flags to rule britannia, im not here stop them. I just think here to stop them. I just think that theres a lot of other music thats available that can celebrate other ways music thats available that can c the rate other ways music thats available that can c the beautiful other ways music thats available that can cthe beautiful countrysideays music thats available that can cthe beautiful countryside ,ys music thats available that can cthe beautiful countryside , the. The beautiful countryside, the natural landscape, you know , natural landscape, you know, weve been talking about the environment morning and environment this morning, and theres ways in which theres so many ways in which this we could but near me, name that tune. Name that tune for me. Whats whats going to get me jigging born william for instance. Right right right. Right right right. Anything by vaughan okay anything by Vaughan Williams okay with that wash with ralph . With you ralph . Look , you know, the last well look, you know, the last night weve got to remember, right . Were not talking about just there are just one concert. There are 84 proms over eight weeks. Proms concerts over eight weeks. Theres plenty of time to perform all of this. The actual bit of last night were bit of the last night were talking the final concert talking about the final concert is last half where we is just the last half where we sing rule britannia, land of hope and glory and jerusalem. The first half of this year will have verdi and strauss and wagner. Theres a plenty of wagner. So theres a plenty of time, in this concert, to time, even in this concert, to incorporate other music and folk songs. Ill be very happy for it. There should space for it. There should be space for all here, but the that, you all here, but the idea that, you know, britannia somehow know, rule britannia is somehow redolent of imperialism or condoning of slavery, as i read in the article from this, this royal cellist is astounding. You have to be completely historically ignorant or stupid or simply a race activist whos being disingenuous, not to know that rule britannia was written before we had main british before we had our main british empire. It was actually about british we wont be british liberty. We wont be slaves. Have we have slaves. We have we have wonderful beliefs here. Were not like the habsburgs or the hohenzollerns. No one hohenzollerns. No one was thinking about or empire at thinking about race or empire at the time. Rule britannia was written. Was all about written. This was all about european tyrants conquering european tyrants conquering europe from the russians to the french to the austrians and spanish, and how britain was unique if you are unique to that. And if you are actually of actually a supporter of britains enter the slave trade, you should celebrate that. Britannia did rule britannia eventually did rule the waves because it was the royal navy ruling, the waves that enabled britain to bring about an end to the atlantic slave trade. You think its interesting do you think its interesting , katie, this is , katie, that this is particularly focussed in on whats to a white kind whats deemed to be a white kind of genre of music and yet there are awards for music of black origin, mobos. And no ones origin, the mobos. And no ones saying thats not diverse. Theres people in theres no white people in included in those awards. Why is it a one way street when youre trying to level the Playing Field . Field . Well, think youve just well, i think youve just said level playing and said level the Playing Field and that what it is. That that is what it is. So ideally would be there ideally it would be there wouldnt any kind of need to wouldnt be any kind of need to identify particular, um , areas identify particular, um, areas of diverse city. But thats just not the position that were in at the moment. White Classical Music is an incredibly white and colonial art form , and those of colonial art form, and those of us that are that are working in the field know that were having these conversations every day. Its not just about rule britannia. We have the conversations all the time about whether jewish performers want to wagner, for instance to perform wagner, for instance. Um, you know, these kind of the, the need to sit alongside and his history that we dont necessarily want to celebrate any more whilst understanding that the music you know, how do we separate the music from that . Should we separate the music from its a debate that from that . Its a debate that runs throughout this art form every debate got to its a debate weve got to bnng its a debate weve got to bring end. Guys, thank you bring to an end. Guys, thank you both very much indeed. A lot of food thought or swinging food for thought or swinging for ringing whatever it ringing there or or whatever it is. Thank ringing there or or whatever it is. Thank you very much indeed. You stay with us. And do you stay with us. Well through the papers well go through the papers next. This morning next. Were joined this morning by Charles Rowley scarlett by Charles Rowley and Scarlett Mccgwire right lets get into the newspapers this morning. Lets get into the newspapers this morning. Were in the this morning. Were in the company of Charlie Rowley and Scarlett Mccgwire and theyve got lots to say. Charlie, youre going to start with the financial times, one of the many papers that are carrying the story about Birmingham City council being bankrupt. Story about Birmingham City council being bankrupt. Second council being bankrupt. Second biggest city in the uk. Exactly. And its a fantastic story because its across all the pages because its the largest local authority across europe. And so to be bankrupt, it is extraordinary. But but, but, but, but. But its unique set of circumstances is, isnt it . In this case they have theyve had to face a retrospective bill where they were not paying women the same amount of men. I dont know how many years this goes back, but cost them £760 back, but it cost them £760 million. Absolutely and women were paying were being paid far less than men. And its all kinds of services. So whether they were cooks or whether were in council whether they were in the Council Offices themselves, it goes back to there was to 2012 where there was a supreme ruling that said Supreme Court ruling that said that city council that Birmingham City council hadnt that Birmingham City council hadnt equal pay, hadnt paid people equal pay, that they were deserved. And so it back to 2012 and its it goes back to 2012 and its been on since. But been going on ever since. But theres 100 million spent been going on ever since. But theit s 100 million spent been going on ever since. But theit systems,3 million spent been going on ever since. But theit systems, which on spent been going on ever since. But theit systems, which waspent been going on ever since. But theit systems, which was five on it systems, which was five times what should have cost. Times what it should have cost. Was and, and 760 million. Now was it and, and 760 million. Now in a black hole. So theyve issued a section 104 notice. So the government has now got to sort of step in to work out how are you going to pay the money back or how are you going to pay that debt it could be that debt down . It could be increasing council increasing in local council tax. It cutbacks elsewhere. It could be cutbacks elsewhere. And terrible city and its terrible for the city of birmingham. Thats just hosted. It is the commonwealth Commonwealth Games thats now hosted. It is the commonwealth conthe nwealth games thats now hosted. It is the commonwealth conthe athleticsiames thats now hosted. It is the commonwealth conthe athletics championship w got the athletics championship in whats going to happen in 2026. Whats going to happen to a brilliant city that to that . A brilliant city that is now gone bust and youve got the for west the conservative mayor for West Midlands street, coming midlands, andy street, coming out is what a out saying, look, this is what a Labour Council looks like. Out saying, look, this is what a labthis council looks like. Out saying, look, this is what a labthis is council looks like. Out saying, look, this is what a labthis is whatcil looks like. Out saying, look, this is what a labthis is whatcil lookwould be this is what labour would be like were in power for like if they were in power for the labour run government, sort of sorry, council saying, as eamonn has explained, its nothing to do with us, but it doesnt look good when youve just labour saying doesnt look good when youve just keegan labour saying doesnt look good when youve just keegan cantabour saying doesnt look good when youve just keegan cant say|r saying doesnt look good when youve just keegan cant say this ing Gillian Keegan cant say this isnt her fault. The buck stops with no got any trust with her, no ones got any trust in politicians and the next in any politicians and the next day theyre responsible for a disaster say, oh no, disaster and they say, oh no, no, no. It wasnt no, no, no, no, no. It wasnt our fault. No, no, no, no, no. It wasnt our no,. T. No, no, no, no, no. It wasnt our no, i. No, no, no, no, no. It wasnt our no, i mean, the real problem no, i mean, the real problem with with that argument is northampton croydon. Northampton shire, croydon. I mean, there are an awful lot of conservative councils that have gone bust and so there are special circumstances this, this equal pay , which was always, equal pay, which was always, always and its not just going to be birmingham , these, these, to be birmingham, these, these, these long lasting equal pay things that go go back for years because because women and its the badly paid women. Its not the badly paid women. Its not women at the top. Its the cleaners and people whove who and they missed out on bonuses that the men were given. But that the men were given. But actually i mean , one of the actually i mean, one of the other reasons is, is everybody i mean, all councils are cash strapped , whatever, whether strapped, whatever, whether youre tory, liberal, lib dem or whatever. Whatever. Okay, lets move on. What whats caught your eye from a happy front there as well. Well , its good to see george well, its good to see George Wilder go. Wilder go. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Theres another story. This is scarlett. Sorry. Yes he just led spain to victory in the world cup, and hes biffed. But yet, meanwhile, Luis Rubiales is still there. Yes, well, some of us think that rubiales should go. I mean, that rubiales should go. I mean, i think the thing about wilder is, is whats really important is, is whats really important is , is that he before the world is, is that he before the world cup, hed lost the faith of a lot of his women players as they found him, they found him bullying and not respectful. And i mean one of the and then people go but he won the world cup actually if you if you really look at i mean i mean those women were fantastic and it was places like barcelona. I mean , i think 4 or 5 of the team mean, i think 4 or 5 of the team actually came from barcelona. And theyve been training. I mean, theyve been putting a lot of money in a lot of effort into women. And the men i mean, this guy women. And the men i mean, this guy , without winning anything, guy, without winning anything, kept on having his, his, his his contract renewed. I mean , you contract renewed. I mean, you know, at long last theyre getting rid of him because the women did not like him. Its a i mean, ive seen my fair share of communications disasters the last few years, but this has been a pr. Disasters the last few years, but this has been a pr. Well but this has been a pr. Well disaster. But its you know , the disaster. But its you know, the shine thats been taken off the womens Football Team that went to on they played very well. Spain were the better team on the day. But all the advances that have happened womens that have happened in womens football getting Girls Football and getting young girls inspired football, you inspired to play football, you know, a football know, i was a football referee when younger so, you when i was younger and so, you know, absolutely all when i was younger and so, you knthe absolutely all when i was younger and so, you knthe spanish absolutely all when i was younger and so, you knthe spanish fa absolutely all when i was younger and so, you knthe spanish fa be solutely all when i was younger and so, you knthe spanish fa be shownly all when i was younger and so, you knthe spanish fa be shown the. L in the spanish fa be shown the red of the way in red card because of the way in which this which theyve treated this particular it particular case. You know, it wasnt a consensual case. You know, player, you know, the female player, you know, the female player, you know, not an over you know, youre just something that happened the was happened the chap was overexcited know, he overexcited but you know, he could just have said sorry, but to call the press conference, where to resign . Where are you going to resign . And im going and then say, im not going anywhere. Defined, know, and then say, im not going anyiyou e. Defined, know, and then say, im not going anyiyou e. Going ned, know, and then say, im not going anyiyou e. Going somewhere ow, and then say, im not going anyiyou e. Going somewhere now but you are going somewhere now because going to the because were going to the weather and well see Weather Forecast and well see you again in 40 minutes time. Moment, and for the moment, charlie and scarlett, the scarlett, thank you. Heres the weather. Like things are weather. Looks like things are heating up. Heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Of weather on. Gb news. Hello, very good morning to you. Some of us are waking up to a bit of a cloudy, murky start, but most of that will clear away this morning to leave another sunny hot day, albeit with the risk thunderstorms later risk of some thunderstorms later on. Taking look at the details on. Taking a look at the details and a cloudy and you can see, yes, a cloudy picture down the eastern side of the country. But the country. First thing. But most any fog most of that cloud and any fog will burn back towards the coast through the morning, leaving a brighter afternoon. Some brighter afternoon. But some cloud lingering across eastern parts scotland. Elsewhere parts of scotland. Elsewhere across the uk, plenty of sunshine though, perhaps sunshine, though, perhaps a bit more recent days , more cloud than recent days, particularly of particularly across parts of Northern Ireland. Look at those temperatures higher than temperatures a touch higher than yesterday, to temperatures a touch higher than yesteraround to temperatures a touch higher than yesteraround 32 to temperatures a touch higher than yesteraround 32 or to temperatures a touch higher than yesteraround 32 or 33 to temperatures a touch higher than yesteraround 32 or 33 celsius in highs around 32 or 33 celsius in the south east, which would make it the hottest day of the year so far. As we go through the end of the day, many places holding on clear skies, though on to those clear skies, though , to see some showers. Like things are heating looks like things are heating up. Boxed boilers, proud sponsors of weather on gb news when the news happens, it happens here. And really important breaking news breaking news this morning on tv, radio and online. The news starts here on britains newsroom. All the biggest stories and the answers that you need from across and beyond. Across the uk and beyond. Join britains newsroom from 930 on. Gb news is of september. This is breakfast on gb news with Eamonn Holmes and Isabel Webster. Leading our news this morning, the Government Faces fresh pressure over its role in the concrete crisis, with questions now being asked about how the Prime Minister dealt with it when he was chancellor. Meanwhile concerns have now spread to the state of hospital buildings as the nhs reportedly warns trusts to bolster emergency plans if the aerated concrete is present. A gb news concrete is present. A gb news exclusive. We speak to the group exclusive. We speak to the group that called themselves blade runners who break the law by vandalising ulez cameras around london. The blue plaque scheme a hallmark of london streets, is to be expand to the rest of the country. Were asking this morning, where would you like to see one near you and for who . See one near you and for who . You know you can actually buy make believe ones. How do you know this . Did you think about getting one . Somebody got me a birthday present. All right. You can buy, make believe ones. There are companies that make them. Im actually surprised to hear that theyre not already all around theyre not already all around the land, that there are london only thing. And then theres a different one. Theres different colour one. Theres a sort of purple one or a clear one, which i think it commemorates entertainment. People only. I havent seen one of those. I havent seen one of those. Yeah, yeah. So they have like, you know, this is where i carry on star whatever or whatever are charged ha3 lived or whatever it happens to be here is your Weather Forecast. Its to going be a good day today. Alex burkill good morning once any low cloud and fog clears away, theyll again be plenty of hot sunshine around with perhaps temperatures a touch higher than yesterday. More later. Ill have more later. Ill have more later. Now as the concrete crisis crumbles on nhs englands reportedly written to trusts telling them to bolster their emergency plans if the concrete in question is present in hospitals following the new government guidance to schools. Well , lets go to ellie well, lets go to Ellie Costello and she is outside roding Valley High School. Thats in essex. Ellie, whats thats in essex. Ellie, whats happening there . Open, close or inspecting . Whats going on . Yes, good morning to you both. This is a school. Yes, good morning to you both. This is a school. Theres both. This is a school. Theres 104 of them that are partial, closed or closed in england at the moment. This school is partially closed. And thats partially closed. And thats because you might be able to make behind me just between those trees. There is a building there just one building on the school site, which has rack in its roof. Its affecting around 18 classrooms in that building and also the dining room of this school. So you can imagine that is causing a lot of disruption at roding Valley High School behind me, there are 2000 students. Its a very large school. So having one building right in the centre there thats out of action is causing disruption. So theyve had a delay start to the term and today they are having year seven and year twelves in. So just two year groups coming to in be inducted into the school for the first time and actually standing on this road outside, we are seeing the little year sevens heading into secondary school for the very first time. Some of them with their parents looking very , very anxious, of very, very anxious, which of course can understand. And course you can understand. And this the start term this delay to the start of term will be adding to will only surely be adding to that anxiety. Well, earlier on that anxiety. Well, earlier on i spoke to ruby, whos a year 13 student. Shes not yet back at school, and she told me she was feeling nervous. Feeling nervous. So we were told a couple of days ago and the parents received a letter home. Ive seen the letter just received a letter home. Ive seen the letterjust sort received a letter home. Ive seen the letter just sort of explaining that there was to going be arrangements for how the year groups were going to be brought back into school as well. Im quite lucky because my subjects are away from the building, which has the concrete in so doesnt me in it. So it doesnt affect me so much. Am nervous. I am so much. I am nervous. I am definitely nervous. I mean, year 13 nerve wracking year and 13 is a nerve wracking year and im already afraid about about it and how its going to go and how more content were how much more content were going i mean, going to have to learn. I mean, ive no idea how long its ive got no idea how long its going to take. I didnt know anything about it before. Of anything about it before. All of this has come out, so im just hoping its to be hoping that its going to be sorted as possible. And sorted as soon as possible. And have impact on my have as little impact on my education possible. I and education as possible. I and there Mental Health concerns there are Mental Health concerns for anxious pupils up and down the country, especially here in essex, where a third of the affected schools are in this county alone. And a headteacher from essex from Honywood School in coggeshall , this is james coggeshall, this is James Saunders. Hes issued a warning about the Mental Health of his students. Hes worried that those entering their first day of secondary school could face further struggles. He said theres already been a knock on impact by the coronavirus pandemic from Students Learning at home, and hes now worried that this delayed start of term could be really tough on those students, especially if theyre coming into sixth form for the first time or secondary school for the first time. And that is backed up by uk government data, which says that from february to march 2021, it shows that rates of mental disorder in children and young people increased. And young people increased. Between 2017 and 2021 from 12 to 718. Thats in part down to the pandemic. So you can understand why headteachers up and down the country will be very, very nervous about the impact that this will be having on the young people. But of course , the concern now, isabel course, the concern now, isabel and eamonn , is that this might and eamonn, is that this might not just be isolated to schools. There is great concern that there are buildings up and down there are buildings up and down the country, hospitals or perhaps restaurants, perhaps even residential buildings that have rack in them. It was used a lot in the Construction Industry between the 1960s and the 1990s, andifs between the 1960s and the 1990s, and its feared now that this is not going to be a problem thats just isolated to schools. Yeah, indeed. Okay. Ellie, with that, thank you very much indeed. Those suffering with mobility and Mental Health problems are to be encouraged to find jobs where they can work from home, which then in turn would get them off benefits. Yes, nearly 2. 5 Million People are currently receiving incapacity payments from government and from the government and ministers would ministers believe they would be able allowed to able to work if allowed to operate under different conditions. Well, our political conditions. Well, our Political Correspondent Catherine Foster is across this one to give us all the details catherine, good morning to you. She joins us live from westminster. Live from westminster. Yes, good morning, eamonn and isabel. These these are measures announced yesterday by mel stride there , work and pensions stride there, work and pensions secretary he designed to get our huge welfare bill down substantially. Theres been substantially. Theres been a 62 increase in incapacity benefits over the last ten years. Its costing the taxpayer an extra £26 billion pounds a yeah an extra £26 billion pounds a year. So the government thinking is now weve got 5. 4 Million People currently on out of work benefits in this country. The government wants people who are able to work in some capacity to do so. And the thinking is that now that so many jobs can be done from home, we saw, didnt we, during the pandemic that it is possible for lots of work to be done from somebodys house, that that means that therell be many people who can work from home who possibly couldnt go out because of social anxiety or get to work because of disabilities , etcetera. That disabilities, etcetera. That would be able to do Productive Work from home. And the government is very , very keen to government is very, very keen to push and encourage people to do that. Push and encourage people to do that. Its push and encourage people to do that. Its going to push and encourage people to do that. Its going to save them a that. Its going to save them a lot of money. But of course their argument is also that it is better for people to be in work to be contributing to the economy , to have a reason to get economy, to have a reason to get up economy, to have a reason to get up in the morning, better for them, better for the government, better for us. Of course , plenty better for us. Of course, plenty of charities are saying this is harsh. Theyre concerned about the impact this is going to have. And also its actually sounds like its not going to kick in immediately. So if labour do come to power after the next election, there might be some difficult decisions for them. But certainly, you know, them. But certainly, you know, we had net migration. At 600,000 we had net migration. At 600,000 last year and many people will be saying, well, if theres people at home currently on benefits who could work, that they should be doing so, catherine, thanks for the update. Appreciate it. With the time appreciate it. With the time at 8 08, we bring you up to date now with the rest of todays news stories. The head of the uks air Traffic Control has said the glitch that caused chaos at airports last week was a 1 in 15,000,000 occurrence. The nats chief executive, martin rolfe, said one of their systems failed after it didnt process a flight plan properly and the switch to manual processing meant the average number of plans they could handle dropped from around 400 per hour as few as 60, 400 per hour to as few as 60, which to restrictions on which to led restrictions on flights to and from uk airports i four of the five people on board the helicopter that crashed outside the Leicester City football stadium survive proved the impact, but died from the resulting fire or the pilot involved in the crash said, ive noidea involved in the crash said, ive no idea whats going on. Seconds before more mechanical failures caused the aircraft to spin out of control and the Russian Mercenary Wagner Group will be declared a terrorist organisation. The home office has said the order will mean that once passed, its illegal to be a member of the group or to support them and well be speaking to the defence secretary, grant shapps, about that shortly. One person has died, another is a Critical Condition after is in a Critical Condition after a crash involving a 52 seater coach and a car in west wales. Police say the road is currently closed between the honey borough and pembroke roundabouts and drivers are advised to take an alternative route. Alternative route. And holiday goers on the greek island of skiathos have been trapped without power or food after severe rainstorms battered the island, causing widespread flooding. Jet2 says widespread flooding. Jet2 says all flights departing the island yesterday and today have been cancelled. And they say the monitoring the forecast and will confirm new departure times as soon as possible. Soon as possible. And parts of the uk have hit heatwave criteria for the First Time Since june. As summer time since june. As summer finally arrives. Britain could finally arrives. Britain could see its hottest day of the year this week. I mean, particularly today with the Health Security agency declaring heat alerts across several regions. Across several regions. Talking of the weather, heres your forecast with alex burkill. That warm feeling burkill. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news hello, very good morning to you. Some of us are waking up to a bit of a cloudy, murky start, but most of that will clear away this morning to leave another sunny hot day, albeit with the risk of some thunderstorm arms later. Taking a look at the details and can see, yes, a details and you can see, yes, a cloudy picture down eastern cloudy picture down the eastern side country. First side of the country. First thing. But most of that cloud and fog will burn back and any fog will burn back towards coast through the towards the coast through the morning, a brighter morning, leaving a brighter afternoon. But some cloud lingering eastern parts lingering across eastern parts of scotland, elsewhere across the uk. Plenty of sunshine, though, more cloud though, perhaps a bit more cloud than days, particularly than recent days, particularly across northern across parts of Northern Ireland. Look those ireland. Look at those temperatures, touch higher ireland. Look at those tempyesterday touch higher ireland. Look at those tempyesterday ,touch higher ireland. Look at those tempyesterday , likely higher ireland. Look at those tempyesterday , likely t0|her ireland. Look at those tempyesterday , likely to get to than yesterday, likely to get to highs around 32 or 33 celsius in the south east which would make it the hottest of the year it the hottest day of the year so far as we go through the end of the day, many places holding on clear skies, though on to those clear skies, though we going some showery we are going to see some showery rain up from the south. Rain feeding up from the south. And could heavy, and this could turn heavy, perhaps thundery, perhaps even thundery, particularly and particularly across central and western england into western parts of england into wales. Also Northern Ireland as we through the night, we go through the night, elsewhere, be elsewhere, therell be some clear and perhaps few clear spells and perhaps a few pockets of fog, but temperatures really not dropping. Could be even so even warmer than last night. So not news. If you had not good news. If you had difficulty sleeping through thursday morning, then that showery continue to be showery rain will continue to be heavy times and perhaps heavy at times and perhaps thunder further thunder as it pushes further northwards into parts of scotland continuing down the scotland and continuing down the western parts of wales into ireland to otherwise again, plenty of sunshine and once more temperatures really rising well above average for the time of yeah above average for the time of year. Again, in the south east we could highs of around 32 we could see highs of around 32 or 33 celsius. That warm feeling inside and from boxt boilers as proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Dont mind me, i was just texting my mum about child care. Shes on the school run, you know, which is what were about to talk about now. The thing so many parents rely on their to parents during the School Parents help during the School Holidays with child but is holidays with child care. But is it right . Are we taking advantage of our free help . Its only wrong because people move away from home. So when you have a extended family or a community or whatever it is, thats what families do. They look after each other. But of course, if you move from, you know, huddersfield to leeds or sorry to london or whatever, you dont have that family around you. And have that family around you. And therefore it becomes an issue. But then should that extend to the fact that instead of doing their duty or what families do , their duty or what families do, should grandparents be paired for doing what they. I personally think my hope mine wouldnt want to be paid. I think they do. I dont think they would enjoy it. I think most grandparents would probably say its the absolute light of their lives. But, you are their lives. But, you know, are we taking advantage a little bit . Can expensive taking bit . It can be expensive taking care taking them on care of the kids, taking them on trips all the rest of it. Trips and all the rest of it. Let know your thoughts. Well let us know your thoughts. Well be talking about it afterwards. Okay. Lets speak to okay. So lets speak now to hannah are hannah hardman. Hannah, you are the two and co founder the mother of two and co founder of the herd. And your of the herd. And whats your view on this . View on this . You know, i think when you go into becoming a parent, there is kind of this level of expectation that your parents will want to support you with looking after your children and i think there challenge comes when those expectations dont augn. When those expectations dont align. So your your parents align. So your your parents dont expect to be looking after them. So i think having kind of clear conversations , transparent clear conversations, transparent and honest conversations, early on can help kind of reduce that conflict later on. The children involved and maybe sometimes pushit involved and maybe sometimes push it a bit too much. Push it a bit too much. Theres one thing saying, you know, grand ma grandpa on either side will help out, but then when the children take it for granted that theyll just do it, that can create maybe ill. Will that can create maybe ill. Will sorry , ive lost sound. Sorry, ive lost sound. Sorry, ive lost sound. It probably wasnt worth listening to anyway, but im saying blaming the kids a lot of this depends on how much the children of the grandchild explain to the parents or what they take for granted. They maybe take too much for granted and push their luck a bit. No, no. Good. Sorry. Still not getting any. Sorry. Still not getting any. Still not good. Well, it was lovely meeting you anyway. Hannah hardman. And well leave it there and well pull out a plug and stick another plug in. Try fix that. But well try and fix that. But meanwhile, i have asian meanwhile, i have to say, asian hornets, which talked about hornets, which we talked about a little bit earlier in the program, has got you all getting in this morning. Lots in touch this morning. Lots of you them, john. Seen you have seen them, john. Seen them leicester. He says them in leicester. He says theyre double the size theyre massive, double the size of had them in my of wasps. Ive had them in my brothers in putney. Brothers garden in putney. He has expensive and has those expensive bushes and theres hornet thats theres a special hornet thats eating has eating them. And this has also been spotted kramer. Ive been spotted by kramer. Ive seen two of those in my garden. I live in the new forest near southampton. What ive also seen is large dragonflies, southampton. What ive also seen is that large dragonflies, southampton. What ive also seen is that largnotagonflies, southampton. What ive also seen is that largnot seenzlies, southampton. What ive also seen is that largnot seen for;, eyes that ive not seen for years. Years. Years. For years. Yeah. Dragon flies. I mean, they obviously particularly colourful whatever these asian hornets and report them by all manner means do that but do not approach them because theyre pretty theyre pretty bad. The main worry from i dont know if its naturists or naturalist naturalists 1 1 of them was naked and the other isnt. I dont know. But the idea is that they will attack honeybees and therefore impede the production of honey around the country. Pollination are key, pollinators are bees. So it is pollinators are bees. So it is a worry. We dont want them. They destroy our ecosystem here. And as a conservation expert earlier said, they are invasive. So they said, they are invasive. So they just, you know, a bit like grey squirrels. We talk about how theyve destroyed native Red Squirrels and it is not good. If squirrels and it is not good. If you spotted one, let us know gb views squirrel thing. Yeah you see, i agree with you. I know theyre not natural to the uk and they came from canada or something, but what difference do they make . Apparently grey squirrels are much more damaging. I dont know why someone who knows more about this, but Red Squirrels are better. Well, i suppose the Red Squirrels are nicer to look at. Well, i think its more more serious than that. But i think the squirrels can be bit the grey squirrels can be a bit more damaging. Dont know how. All these who but then all these people who want their beavers in want to release their beavers in the wild, thats fabulous. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Why is that . Why is that . Because theyre and because theyre native and thats destroying. Thats what were destroying. What should be here and we should getting our forests should be getting our forests back to how they should be. We should reintroducing maybe should be reintroducing maybe even but even wolves one day. But would you walking with your you want to be walking with your little frise through the little bichon frise through the forest and visual and say, let me you , with a like me tell you, with a name like that didnt come from round me tell you, with a name like that dyeah, ome from round me tell you, with a name like that dyeah, well from round me tell you, with a name like that dyeah, well ,rom round me tell you, with a name like that dyeah, well, you round me tell you, with a name like that dyeah, well , you could be here . Yeah, well, you could be eaten by a beaver. Eaten by a beaver. Yeah, thats the whole point. Well, thats the trouble. And. Well, thats the trouble. And then what are the other things . Minxes they call it minxes. Theyre not. Not minx. Minx yes, they are natural. No, theyre not lynxes. No lynx. Theyre not. As in the mink. Theyre not. As in the mink. They came in from america. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah im just trying to think of mrjinx. Trying to think of mr jinx. Yeah, youre thinking. Yeah. Mr jinx, who was a cartoon character , and as he always used character, and as he always used to say, i hate mrs. To pieces. So there you are. Okay, coming up, do we need a minister for man . Right. Theres a conservative mps who say that man are being failed in society. Tell me about it, mate. Were going to be talking to Charlie Rowley at and Scarlett Mccgwire about that next Charlie Riley scarlet mcguire newspapers who put them all together. And this is what youre going to get over the next ten minutes or so. Charlie we start with the mail and theyre saying that theres a conservative mp whos saying weve worked so hard for women, now we need a minister for men. Well, its a conversation in a topic comes up a topic that comes up periodically. Because we have periodically. Because we have a minister for women inequalities and Nick Fletcher, tory mp for don valley, has suggested on a radio interview that we need a minister men and i think at minister for men and i think at a top line level it sounds a little bit crazy because you have a Prime Ministers, they had more male Prime Ministers than ever before, more male dominated cabinet than women. Dominated cabinet than women. Why do you need a minister for men . But some of the things that men . But some of the things that hes articulating, think hes articulating, i think they do seem to be quite sensible. You know, dont have enough you know, we dont have enough male teachers , male Primary School teachers, for example, to give young boys when growing role when theyre growing up the role models need in Society Models that they need in society where havent had fathers where they havent had fathers perhaps, fathers where perhaps, or absent fathers where there are lots of Health Issues that relate to men, men that relate to men, which men tend to not talk about so much. So testicular cancer and things like that. So having a minister for to champion mens causes for men to champion mens causes in health, in education and to challenge misogynist behaviour and characters like andrew tate having a minister for men that can stand up to that kind of behaviour is something that Nick Fletcher does. Arguing really need a ministerial position. Scarlet shouldnt be the shouldnt that be in the individual of, shouldnt that be in the individual of , for individual roles of, for example, the health secretary, the education secretary, to try and encourage male primary and encourage more male Primary School in or promote School Teachers in or promote mens health . Absolutely , isabel. I mean, absolutely, isabel. I mean, theres no question. I mean, when i was a Primary School governor one of complaints governor one of my complaints was that there were so few men and particularly there were lots of kids in the school. And of black kids in the school. And we had no male black we had we had no male black teachers at and a lot of teachers at all. And a lot of these kids came from single parent families, just mums. They really needed male thing. And so this problem is , is massive and this problem is, is massive and its been going on and on and on. Andi its been going on and on and on. And i just i dont actually see what a minister for men would do about it. The other problem with men, youre right, is health is think suicide is health is so i think suicide is health is so i think suicide is i mean, thats whats so terrible is suicide is for men under 50 is the biggest cause of death. And so actually, you you death. And so actually, you you want speaking but but they do talk as though the whole women thing is fine. I mean do you know that Women Football players have to play in football boots that were made for men . And thats why these als injuries because actually womens feet are different. I mean, whenever you get into a car, if youre female and for me, and im not that small, the seatbelt digs into you. And thats because seatbelts are made for men. I mean, actually, this is a male dominated world. The seatbelt makes sense because youre smaller. Because im smaller. Because im smaller. Yeah. And so every thing when things are standard, theyre made for men. Made for men. I think the nike situation with mary earps was is disgusting. I really do. I think they looked at that from an economic point of view and they said, well, theres no point making 100,000 of these. No one will want them. And then they refused and refused refused refused and refused and refused until so much public until there was so much public outcry about it. They they actually had to make it. But actually had had to make it. But but youre right that women i didnt know about the boots, but they to wear mens they certainly had to wear mens clothes , saying up until now in clothes, saying up until now in terms shirts and things terms of shirts and things like that. E absolutely. Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Know, i just think and you know, i just think therell be people listening to this morning and this story this morning and this this story this morning and this this for minister for this call for a minister for men, perhaps theres people in birmingham to fight men, perhaps theres people in bir|equalam to fight men, perhaps theres people in bir|equalam these to fight men, perhaps theres people in bir|equalam these womenight men, perhaps theres people in bir|equalam these women who for equal pay. These women who are cleaners or are cooks and cleaners or whatever yes its sent whatever else. Yes its sent Birmingham Council under , but Birmingham Council under, but there huge inequality still. There is huge inequality still. Usually women who are still usually its women who are still suffering department. Suffering in that department. And thats sorted out, and until thats sorted out, youd think, do we really need to making another all here in to be making another all here in all this . All of this . Yeah. And i think its a brilliant question. You brilliant question. And do you want minister man, perhaps want a minister for man, perhaps arguing cause, know, arguing that . Cause, you know, should the prime should it just be the Prime Minister, should it be the work and pensions sector or should it be should be the chancellor . Should whoever position of whoever is in the position of power, politicians at power, the politicians at the top should be making these decisions to our country decisions to make our country more equal . Scarlett, want talk scarlett, you want to talk about the concrete scandal here . And we were talking about schools a really schools and you made a really interesting observation to me dunng interesting observation to me during the commercial break. They were talking about aerated concrete. Somebody thinks its a goodidea concrete. Somebody thinks its a good idea to blow holes into concrete and it would be cheaper and not last as long. And your point is my point. What were they ever doing building schools that were only supposed to last 30 years . I mean, thats that is the real, real scandal, i presume. Money, i presume. Money, i presume. Yeah. Its crazy. False economy and so both my children were educated at victor gao torian Primary Schools red brick red bricked and they still and those and my daughters Primary School i can see from my bedroom window every morning i wake up andifs window every morning i wake up and its not falling down panels on no theyve modernised it. Right. There are solar panels on it. No problem at all. And then you have these things falling down and so , so the so theres down and so, so the so theres a theres a massive thing. Then why why the government hasnt done anything about it is we knew there was a problem. Thats why the Labour Government brought in a whole schools building thing. Brought in a whole schools building thing. First thing that building thing. First thing that your michael gove did was cancel it, right . Because austerity and actually its this short term, short term thinking that leads to long term consequences. To long term consequences. Charlie because you were obviously special adviser to michael gove for many years. Michael gove for many years. Luckily i was still at university at the so its university at the time, so its a before, before my time. A bit before, before my time. Very to stick with you very much to stick with that building program. That building program. It was a coalition, we should say this exactly. Yes. Yeah, well blame the other. Well blame the others. He education secretary he was. And em m look, by his own and i think look, by his own admission, said in admission, i think he said in the department of education that admission, i think he said in thewanted ment of education that admission, i think he said in thewanted to nt of education that admission, i think he said in thewanted to change ucation that admission, i think he said in thewanted to change things| that admission, i think he said in thewanted to change things andt he wanted to change things and might have come to in too fast, too try and get some too soon to try and get some reforms. But every reforms. But but every department this is, i think, the conversation that government conversation that the government havent the havent had openly with the pubuc havent had openly with the public a bit public and needs to go a bit tougher on to say, look, you tougher on is to say, look, you know, 2010, there was an know, back in 2010, there was an economic you know, every economic crisis. You know, every department always department well, theres always an economic crisis, every an economic crisis, but every department make. Department had to make. Know, we know the do you know, we know the price of everything in the value of nothing. Thats i think. Of nothing. Thats what i think. Charlie bring up so charlie and you also bring up so many questions in this, of many questions in this, one of which is architecture. I believe that is easy design that it is as easy to design something that beautiful something that is beautiful and aesthetically it aesthetically works well than it is design something thats is to design something thats pig is to design something thats pig yeah and, and, you pig ugly. Yeah and, and, you know, you look and you look at social housing, you look at office blocks , you look at office blocks, you look at various things and you think this looks like a pigsty. This is absolutely horrendous. Railways , monstrosities and railways, monstrosities and what is this all about . Saving money in in the short term. But alien to your eye, auen term. But alien to your eye, alien to your soul, alien to live in . No, but. But i think its really important what you say about aerated concrete to build this for 30 years to save themselves a few quid and do all this and then do it in Army Barracks and do it in hospitals and do it, i mean, just it just doesnt stop the horrors of this. And i think were really lucky that nobodys died because because what we know is that in 2018, a roof did fall down in a Primary School in kent at the weekend. I mean, it was sheer luck that it was at the weekend. And then and still nothing was done. And you sort of feel i mean, it is awful to bring up grenfell, but grenfell was about saving money. I mean the reason all those people died was it was about saving money and this brilliant book thats won all sorts of prizes about grenfell , sorts of prizes about grenfell, my daughter who works for a housing association, made me read the, the introduction and it was and its called show me the bodies because thats what people said is until we have bodies, were not really interested. And i mean, you know, when are we going to learn, when are we going to learn, when are we going to learn that you have to do things properly . And they arent just their childrens bodies, you know, just the people we all want to protect. The next generation. And charlie, grenfell and charlie, maybe youll be able to answer this for me if i had have been Prime Minister at the time, i wasnt. It was theresa may. But i would have done this. Would would have done this. I would have said stuff you knightsbridge council or whoevers council. It was remit whoevers council. It was remit at that time. This is bigger at that time. This is bigger than you. This is a national tragedy. Were commandeering tragedy. Were commandeering that car park or these areas and were putting in portakabins or caravans or whatever it happens to be. Were keeping these people in their community. Were not pushing them into the Migrant Hotels and bed and breakfasts all around the place. I just cant understand why someone didnt take overall control and find money. All this nonsense we talk about the foreign aid budget. Why isnt there an emerging budget to actually stand by and look after your own people . Grenfell is an absolute stain on this country as to what happened and how they treated people afterwards and continue to treat people. And i think look, a lot of thats absolutely right because theres failings all around kensington and Chelsea Borough Council failed. The government failed previously when it came to nobody took to building safety. Nobody took over charge. Over all charge. Theresa may was the Prime Minister. She not the big minister. Is she not the big boss . Can she not say this is whats happening . Well i think whats happening . Well i think what seeing what hopefully what were seeing now michael is now and under michael gove is this remediation this massive remediation remediation taking remediation works thats taking place across the country. Who are so developers who are responsible unsafe responsible for building unsafe cladding unsafe cladding cladding or any unsafe cladding thats attached rise thats attached to high rise buildings like grenfell, they have to take that down. Its not the taxpayer thats to going pay the taxpayer thats to going pay. Local communities pay. Its not local communities that have to pay. It is the developers and those are developers and those that are responsive for building these buildings, responsive for building these build unsafe times responsive for building these buildunsafe times because it were unsafe at times because it went through a certain of went through a certain amount of testing it attached to a testing before it attached to a building. If at the building. But if its at the lower are people that lower end, there are people that are responsible grenfell, are responsible for grenfell, everybody failed as everybody has has failed as a Government Council and developers. Those the developers. But those are the people have to pay and people that have to pay and thats michael is thats what michael gove is doing sure that there is doing to make sure that there is a building safety in a building safety bill in parliament make that we parliament to make sure that we dont anything grenfell parliament to make sure that we dontagain. Nything grenfell ever again. Why he get rid of why did why did he get rid of why did he get rid of the restrictions on toilets going into rivers, then why he do that two then why did he do that two weeks ago . Talks a good game weeks ago . He talks a good game and when it comes to it, and then when it comes to it, developers are the leeches developers who are the leeches of there of society, theyre there to just up profit anywhere and just soak up profit anywhere and everywhere. If you ever meet everywhere. If you ever meet a developer, theyre the most horrible creatures. They would they absolutely skin you they would absolutely skin you to save £5. If you ever try and build a house or buy land off a developer. Good luck to you with that. But it goes to the point that you made earlier on is about building beautiful as well. And thats housing crisis thats we have a housing crisis in country well, not in this country as well, not just concrete. So then we should let people poo into let people pee and poo into rivers. What we should rivers. Well, what we should do is sure that you have is make sure that you have developments are built developments that are built beautiful make sure that beautiful to make sure that local is then approve beautiful to make sure that local housing is then approve beautiful to make sure that local housing isthisn approve beautiful to make sure that local housing isthis countryye beautiful to make sure that local housing isthis country to more housing in this country to allow people to get on the allow young people to get on the housing, not what was. Fair, i dont to to be fair, i dont want to attack you because youre not working gove working for michael gove anymore. Isnt what he anymore. But that isnt what he decided. I mean, wasnt about anymore. But that isnt what he dec aestheticsan, wasnt about anymore. But that isnt what he dec aesthetics of wasnt about anymore. But that isnt what he dec aesthetics of it wasnt about anymore. But that isnt what he dec aesthetics of it or|snt about anymore. But that isnt what he dec aesthetics of it or anythingit the aesthetics of it or anything else. It was about neutrality, nutrient neutrality the nutrient neutrality and the phosphates nitrates that phosphates and the nitrates that will allowed go into will now be allowed to go into our as greenpeace our rivers. And as greenpeace came saying theres came out and saying theres not a this country who a person in this country who would out and say, you know would come out and say, you know what, rivers could really what, our rivers could really benefit being a bit more benefit from being a bit more polluted and we want to polluted and do we want to live in a country where our rivers are all the fish are dying and theres all this chicken slurry, whatever is 1 0 whatever else it is, it is 1 0 to the developers disgrace. And the utility companies, the there the Water Companies there as well the Water Companies there as welwell, if they were well, if they were a government sitting government minister sitting here, you might have here, i mean, you might have won on later. We will in a on a bit later. We will in a minute. Were getting warmed up. They will come up with all kinds statistics. I know kinds of statistics. And i know that helpful to viewers that wont be helpful to viewers because you will see the pollution thats going into waters and theyll say that its lower before, but lower than ever before, but youve to have bit like youve got to have a bit like the environmental and the Environmental Policies and ulez got to ulez and things. Youve got to have balance between building ulez and things. Youve got to have and|nce between building ulez and things. Youve got to have and making neen building ulez and things. Youve got to have and making neen thatding ulez and things. Youve got to have and making neen that you homes and making sure that you have anything, but have a nobody does anything, but theres no building but theres no building homes, but you the building you cant stop the building of homes of what homes just on the sake of what could be better of could be a better way of managing nutrients. Neutrality could be a better way of managinthe|trients. Neutrality could be a better way of managinthe life nts. Neutrality could be a better way of managin the life nts me, jtrality could be a better way of managinthe lifents me, irality well, for the life of me, i cannot understand why 40 cannot understand why over 40 years the second years or so, since the second world cannot build homes world war, we cannot build homes in country. World war, we cannot build homes in there untry. World war, we cannot build homes in there are y. World war, we cannot build homes in there are enough brown sites there are enough brown sites or sites. There are or enough green sites. There are enough blue sites. There are enough blue sites. There are enough in city centres. Yeah, all these. Centres. Itsh, all these. Centres. Its anotherese. Centres. Its another national disgrace, which puts down to disgrace, which puts me down to either or the either politicians or the system. System obviously system. The system obviously does not work , and thats does not work, and thats politicians have a duty to change it. Thats what theyre there long enough. They keep being changed. And or as Gillian Keegan said, they sit on their backsides. Sit on their backsides. Yeah, because of course she doesnt mean well. This is doesnt mean well. Well this is the woman who on instagram says, im with my personal trainer. The highlight of my week and all the schools must go. Great. Well, since you mention her, youve chosen the front of the mirror. Scarlet, talk about her husband. And i know that you husband. And i know that you sometimes advise bridget phillipson, the shadow education secretary shes come out and saying its gross conflict of saying its a gross conflict of interest. This i mean, that interest. This i mean, is that fair . There an fair . Is she is there an allegation or suggestion that shes actually done anything wrong . Werent wrong . The ministers werent involved in choosing these contract its contract acts, but its certainly good look to see certainly not a good look to see a government minister under fire with a husband cosying to with a husband cosying up to schools for contracts. And getting a million, well, and getting a million, particularly when we didnt get it. He didnt get it. But the contract got a million. So one of the things is its about caesahs of the things is its about caesars wife is caesars wife mustnt just be above suspicion. She must be seen to be above. She was caesars wife. She was caesars wife. I dont know caesar it i dont know which caesar it was. They all i dont know which caesar it was. They all had i dont know which caesar it was. They all had wives. Was. They all had wives. I just wonder, was it somebody we should know . History groundbreaking in the history groundbreaking in the making. Viewers tell us the making. Viewers tell us today, this morning, who was and if so, which caesar are we talking . Julius caesar. Julius caesar. Augustus caesar. Augustus caesar. Apparently pompeii. Compare. Pompeii. Pompeii thought that was a city, but its no , i think she was also a person. So. But whats so terrible is so he he is a non exec. Which means that you earn lots of money for going to meetings of somewhere that got a contract. Somewhere that got a contract. And i think it is about being seen to be above. But whats also is that there are hundreds of millions of pounds that havent been spent on refurbishing schools. I mean, refurbishing schools. I mean, you just think, what is this government been doing . I mean, we all know i mean, it is everybody agrees that schools. Everybody agrees that schools. Is not just crumbling concrete , is not just crumbling concrete, by the way. I mean, the reason bridget asked a 156 times about what was going wrong with with with with with with with schools was because so there danger in a lot of ways theyre falling apart and you have 720 million that isnt being used. Nobody seems to care maybe because its kids and they think well they havent got voices, who cares . Well, i mean, you know, you have the great thing is that when they they got somebody whose name escapes me that to talk about tutoring. Talk about tutoring. And he said, you know , this and he said, you know, this is we need we need this much money. And rishi sunak said the credit cards maxed out gave him 10 of the amount he wanted and he resigned. I mean, you know , he resigned. I mean, you know, this was, as you keep saying, the future our kids are our future. And they suffered more in the pandemic than anybody else. And we havent got you know, we would not invest in them properly. Them properly. Yeah, well, thats cheerful, isnt it . Well, its true. Well, its true. You learn a lot about life. And i mean, as ive got older for charlie and youll find this as well, because youre a young man full of idealism and read that out you know, ill tell that out of you know, ill tell you, ill tell you , most people, you, ill tell you, most people, most people , professionals, most people, professionals, whatever , are not very good at whatever, are not very good at their jobs. And whatever, are not very good at theirjobs. And i will stand and theirjobs. And i will stand and i will if a man is plastering my wall and i will look at that and i will say, thats like artwork to me. How he can do that or maybe he cant do it, but you will find Estate Agents , will find Estate Agents, lawyers, doctors , youll find lawyers, doctors, youll find all sorts of people who youre supposed to trust and whose word is supposed to be god and they know or theyre know nothing or theyre incompetent so title incompetent completely. So title gives you absolutely nothing. Gives you absolutely nothing. You will find that in life and that people dont care about detail. They dont care about beauty , and they dont care beauty, and they dont care about getting things right. Beauty, and they dont care about getting things right. They about getting things right. They just about getting things done, being expedient things being expedient about things or being expedient about things or being to get things done. Being seen to get things done. And increasingly on and that is why increasingly on this programme, when we respond like these politicians, you like these by politicians, you know, like, explain this to me, charlie. Gillian keegan says charlie. Gillian keegan says this this money is being this week this money is being taken care of for concrete for schools. It comes from the department of education. Now, am department of education. Now, am i really . Am i stupid as i look type thing, i go, but that money was obviously allocated for something else. It wasnt allocated to fixed concrete, so therefore , if theres any money therefore, if theres any money being sucked out of the department of education, what was what is now being deprived of that budget, i bet you the department of education isnt sitting on squillions , which sitting on squillions, which they say, well, what will we do with this today . Money with this today . All this money building up in the corner here . Well, one of the its a brilliant question. I obviously all your i mean, obviously all your questions of. Questions are you just sort of. Yeah, but , questions are you just sort of. Yeah, but, you questions are you just sort of. Yeah, but , you know, questions are you just sort of. Yeah, but, you know, one of the things that Gillian Keegan did came in as did when she first came in as education of education secretary was one of her that would her achievements that she would say was to secure an extra 2 billion the treasury. Billion from the treasury. This was one of jeremy and this was one of jeremy hunfs and this was one of jeremy hunts first budgets. Hunts sort of first budgets. And the weekend, rightly, and he at the weekend, rightly, in is say that in my view, is to say that whatever the you know, the whatever the cost, you know, the treasury assist the whatever the cost, you know, the treasurwill assist the whatever the cost, you know, the treasurwill be ssist the whatever the cost, you know, the treasurwill be there the whatever the cost, you know, the treasurwill be there to the whatever the cost, you know, the treasurwill be there to remediate money will be there to remediate and concrete and help with this concrete crisis. But think has to crisis. But i think there has to be balance between being be a balance between being straight with the public. Yes. You know, this is not good. Its you know, this is not good. Its a time kids should be going a time when kids should be going back theyre not back to school and theyre not now the challenge for the government they to government and they have to get on front to be to say, on the front foot to be to say, okay, how quickly can you get the if its the kids back to school if its a i think thats fine a week . I think thats fine because a because you dont want a situation where are in the situation where kids are in the classroom, buildings situation where kids are in the clasfalling buildings situation where kids are in the clasfalling youve ildings situation where kids are in the clasfalling youve got1gs situation where kids are in the clasfalling youve got to are falling down. Youve got to put context that i think put into context that i think 95 people actually going 95 of people are actually going to normal and that to school as normal and that that washes. That washes. Im sorry, the Prime Minister got absolutely skewered for saying that this week because you tell that to the 5 of families and you translate that into the kids going to into 5 of the kids going to school of the school, whos at risk of the roof falling in on them . 95 arent affected. Actually, the labour party put a wonderful thing about put out a wonderful thing about it, said most but most it, said jaws. Most but most people not killed by sharks. I mean, you know , but the 1 or 2 mean, you know, but the 1 or 2 that are i just think i think that are i just think i think that you cant say. But it doesnt happen. It doesnt hit doesnt happen. It doesnt hit a we have no idea because because they dont know. But i mean, we are talking about it began at 156 and its now gone up to over 200. I mean, 200 schools is a lot out of the 22,000 that we have in the country. But im not taking it away from these 200 plus schools. But i think its just putting into a bit of context where, you know, some schools will remain open still. Part a still. Its just part of a corridor classroom might be corridor or a classroom might be closed. The important thing closed. But the important thing is identifying meeting today , is identifying meeting today, your canteens closed, that your canteens closed, just that or just or the gyms closed are just minor inconveniences like that. But well get with it. But but well get on with it. But its not acceptable. It isnt. Its not. You know , its but its not. You know, its not the end of the world. Going to try and say youre going to try and say its not. No, no, its important. But whats important making whats more important is making sure the work that sure that you get the work that you need done and to make sure that back to school, that kids can go back to school, that kids can go back to school, that done before. That theyre not done before. Exactly. We waiting exactly. Why are we waiting 40 this . 40 years to decide this . Years . Weve also had 40 years . But weve also had the holiday, right . The whole summer holiday, right . We the whole of covid when we had the whole of covid when i reckon something has happened , i reckon. I reckon something has collapsed and theyve all gone. Dont tell anybody. Dont tell anybody. But minister, weve got anybody. But minister, weve got to get this fixed. Well, and you know, there has to be an internal review as to why it came to light that there were three schools, three schools, allegations, inquiries i why 5mm why dont you just do the bloomin thing instead of pondenng bloomin thing instead of pondering their navels . Lets rishi sunak well have an inquiry into this. Thatll buy him some time as well. An inquiry that certainly wont come come out before the next election , which theyre next election, which theyre going to lose. Yeah, well, but can i say, on the contracts as well, you know, there procurement process there is a procurement process where, said, there is a procurement process wheregillian said, there is a procurement process wheregillian hasnt said, there is a procurement process wheregillian hasnt ordered look, gillian hasnt ordered this contract. Look, gillian hasnt ordered thisyou contract. Look, gillian hasnt ordered thisyou contr. This guy, her you know, this guy, her husband non executive husband is a non executive director, hes not exactly director, so hes not exactly running hes an running the show. Hes just an attachment benefiting. But but i attachment benefiting. But but i dont think theres any i mean, of theres any of course, if theres any wrongdoing shenanigans of course, if theres any wro youying shenanigans of course, if theres any wroyou need shenanigans of course, if theres any wro you need to henanigans of course, if theres any wroyou need to look1igans of course, if theres any wroyou need to look int0|s of course, if theres any wroyou need to look into that. On, you need to look into that. But i think, you know, whenever you contract and the you order a contract and the covid that were covid contracts that were awarded, know thats a big awarded, i know thats a big thing in this country, i thing in this country, but i would for the would never apologise for the contracts awarded would never apologise for the contrac covid awarded would never apologise for the contrac covid from ded would never apologise for the contraccovid from the during covid times from the government because there was an eight it was eight stage process. It was through the Cabinet Office that had contracts. Had to award the contracts. Charlie, know charlie, charlie, we know those the fault well, and anyone that my who we should be going after are the people that knowingly and falsely hoodwink that eight stage process. Knowing that they couldnt deliver ppe. Those are the deliver ppe. Those are the people that were awarded money knowing that they couldnt deliver those people should be in jail. Its the fault, in jail. Its not the fault, i think, of people in the Cabinet Office ministers were that Office Ministers that were that dont award contracts anyway, but flat out in the but were working flat out in the pandemic , the vip lane. Pandemic, the vip lane. So if there is somebody if you knew somebody, you got there. And so and had pub landlord i remember and i remember Rachel Reeves who i think is brilliant and i know her and weve weve partied together. Together. And so im not doing partygate. I know , i know. Not partygate. I know, i know. Not during. No, no, absolutely not dunng during. No, no, absolutely not during that that particular time. But she wrote to the Cabinet Office and its all public, you know, suggesting a number of companies in her constituency. One out to be a one that turned out to be a football and costume football agent and a costume shop. She was doing the right shop. So she was doing the right thing by alerting the government that there could people that that there could be people that were that party. But it were helping that party. But it turned out not only got to cut across, weve the new across, weve got the new defence secretary standing by ready talk to us now and we ready to talk to us now and we say hello, good morning and congratulations as grant shapps on your your new post and your new position and secretary of state. I understand if theres things that youll not be up to speed on because of the brevity of your holding this post. But could we start with the wagner group and what is happened there and what effect will that have . And what effect will that have . What will it mean to all of us in britain in general . So the wagner group, as as you know, your viewers will recall , being heavily involved recall, being heavily involved in ukraine, but also in africa and elsewhere around the world. There are these stabilising in fact, and we are proscribing them, which means that they will be known as a terrorist group in the uk. Now, that means that the uk. Now, that means that people wont be able to join them. It would be illegal to do so. You wont be able to use their logo, their insignias, promote their causes with a punishable crime of up to 14 years in jail. So are they not enemies of britain . I mean, could we find ourselves getting into conflict with them in certain regions or areas of the world if we came across them . Across them . Well, so its a domestic thing. Thing. Theyll be added to a list of 78 other groups that are proscribed in this country and we dont prescribe groups easily because we live in democracy. People are allowed to have their views. We do, however, have views. We do, however, have a line, and that line is where it could cause damage to other people or encourage violence and the rest of it. And that is why we have added them to the list today. I just want to ask you about your new defence your new post as defence secretary. Your predecessor. Your new post as defence secretary. Your predecessor. Big secretary. Your predecessor. Big boots to fill there. Ben wallace extremely popular, not least with the influential conservative home poll, which you always used to come out top of. I you always used to come out top of inoficed you always used to come out top of. I noticed today Kemi Badenoch at the top of that poll today on i think its Something Like 39 points or 59 points. Youre down there at minus 10. 6 in a few people raised their eyebrows at you being appointed and defence secretary, not least for your penchant for tiktok , for your penchant for tiktok, with all the security concerns around that , are you going to around that, are you going to give it up . Finally no, i dont have it on my phone. No, i dont have it on my phone. And by the way, the phone. And by the way, the ministry of defence uses tiktok, as does the army. So you know, you you cant help but be where people are actually viewing things. But im not i dont personally have it on my phone. And look , ive been in a number and look, ive been in a number of different government positions. Im an experienced positions. Im an experienced cabinet minister ive run complex, difficult departments with large infrastructure budgets. And we live in a country where civilians run the country where civilians run the country rather than the military. For example , i noticed military. For example, i noticed that only two of the last 15 defence secretaries have military military background at all, so its perfectly normal. Not to have a military background. And what i intend to background. And what i intend to do is stand up for the brave men and women who are our armed and women who are in our armed forces and do an incredible job. And i think they deserve great leadership. Yeah you say you dont it your phone. Dont have it on your phone. Does it mean youre going to stop using it . Concerns from tim lawton. Hes of those lawton. Hes one of those conservative mps whove been sanctioned. They sanctioned by china. They think its serious Security Threat its a serious Security Threat and a Security Risk. So why is a defence secretary would you enable states like china to get access to you through that . Just to be clear, theres no Security Risk of viewing tiktok. I dont think anyone is saying that the Security Risks would come through the app itself and i dont have the app on my phone. I dont personally post to it. We have to make a decision in the wider in the wider world about whether were to going be where you know, if you like, our our citizens are our voters are or if were going to vacate those those places. I dont think its the best way to communicate not being on the platforms that people use. They have to be used safely, presumably the mod far before my time here came to the conclusion that it was able to do that. And i follow the security lead of the ministry of defence as well. Defence secretary could i ask you about the geopolitical situation between russia and nonh situation between russia and north korea . Again, if you dont feel up to full briefing on this, please say so. But theyre cosying up to each other now. Cosying up to each other now. Does that where does that leave the uk in terms of further penalties against north korea . Has there to be a message sent out to north korea which says you dont do this . Well look, we dont have diplomatic relations with north korea. With north korea. In fact, i was with the last brit, i think, who was probably in north korea, the other week, who was our ambassador over there and was the last person to leave. I think it says a lot about about putin and his war that he is now having to turn to the north koreans as literally his in the world his last friends in the world and to tap into. Their 1960 and to tap into. Their 1960 arsenal of weapons. And to tap into. Their 1960 arsenal of weapons. You know, arsenal of weapons. You know, putin cannot will not win this war in ukraine. I was in ukraine last week, the week before. We last week, the week before. We will stand by ukraine. We our support will not waver in any way, shape or form. And i would say that ukraines security is indivisible with our own putin going to north korea is not going to north korea is not going to north korea is not going to change any of that. Should we talk about concrete . This is a huge headache for the government, isnt it . I mean, this could be spreading right across your brief. Now in defence, we hear the nhs england have written to all of trusts and labour all of their trusts and labour have said that they warned 180 Times Parliament about the times in parliament about the risk in schools and have accused you the government of just shrugging your shoulders on this issue. Issue. Well, weve all known about aerated concrete. It was used from the 1950s onwards and obviously through many, many different Labour Governments. So i fear governments as well. So i fear theyre playing politics theyre rather playing politics with it. But im more concerned, has ditched plans ditched those rebuilding plans when education secretary when he was education secretary in 2010, i can i just clarify one thing because ive heard labour going on about this this morning and other news broadcast masters, not yours, rather, are buying that Story Building schools for the future, which is the specific programme in mind, was secondary schools. Was about secondary schools. There are 22,000 schools and colleges in this country. There are 22,000 schools and colleges in this country. The colleges in this country. The vast majority are not secondary schools. So it would be like only deliberately attacking one part of the problem. Thats not the approach that weve taken. We want to rebuild schools across all of our estates. Weve done about 500m the last ten years and were going to do another 500 in the ten another 500 in the next ten years. If you dont, if you years. But if you dont, if you have new information, which is whats happened over the summer and then you dont act on it, then cant be saying that then you cant be saying that youre after children, youre looking after children, the staff, the teachers. We have the staff, the teachers. We have acted on it immediately in order that that can never be the case. And we always look after the safety the children. Safety of the children. Okay. Secretary of state for defence, we have it defence, we have to leave it there. Thank you there. Grant shapps thank you very. And well very much indeed. And well leave with your forecast leave you with your forecast this alex burkill. This out. Heres alex burkill. It looks like things are heating up, boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello, very good morning to you. Some of us are waking up to a bit of a cloudy, murky start, but most of that clear away but most of that will clear away this to leave another this morning to leave another sunny albeit with the sunny hot day, albeit with the risk of some thunderstorms later. Taking a look at the details and yes, cloudy and you can see, yes, a cloudy picture down the eastern side of the country thing. But the Country First thing. But most of that cloud and any fog will back towards the coast will burn back towards the coast through the morning, leaving a brighter but some brighter afternoon. But some cloud lingering across eastern parts scotland, elsewhere parts of scotland, elsewhere across the uk, plenty of sunshine, though, perhaps a bit more recent days, more cloud than recent days, particularly across parts of northern look at those Northern Ireland. Look at those temperatures a touch higher than yesterday to yesterday, likely to get to highs around 32 or 33 celsius in the south east, which would make it the hottest day the year it the hottest day of the year so we go through the end so far as we go through the end of the day, many places holding so far as we go through the end of thethose many places holding so far as we go through the end of thethose many skies,. Holding so far as we go through the end of thethose many skies, though, to on those clear skies, though, we are going to see some showery rain feeding up from the south. And this could heavy, and this could turn heavy, perhaps thundery, perhaps even thundery, particularly central and particularly across central and western of england into western parts of england into wales. Northern ireland. As wales. Also Northern Ireland. As we night , we go through the night, elsewhere, some elsewhere, therell be some clear and perhaps few clear spells and perhaps a few pockets but temperatures pockets of fog. But temperatures really dropping. Could be really not dropping. Could be even warmer than last night. So not news. Had not good news. If you had difficulty sleeping through thursday morning, then that showery rain will continue to be heavy and perhaps heavy at times and perhaps thunder it pushes further thunder as it pushes further northwards into parts of scotland continuing down the scotland and continuing down the western parts of wales into ireland to otherwise again, plenty of sunshine and once more temperatures really rising well above average for the time of yeah above average for the time of year. Again, in the south east, we could see highs around 32 we could see highs of around 32 or 33 as looks like or 33 celsius as looks like things are heating up. Things are heating up. Boxed boilers, gb news the concrete crisis is crumbling on with fears that hospitals now could be affected. Could be affected. And a very good morning to you. It is 9 00 on wednesday, the 6th of september. Youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel leading the news this morning. The government is facing fresh pressure over its role in the concrete crisis , with questions concrete crisis, with questions now being asked about how the Prime Minister dealt with it when he was chancellor. Meanwhile concerns have now spread to the state of hospital buildings, as nhs reportedly buildings, as the nhs reportedly warns trusts to bolster emergency plans in the aerated concrete crisis. Us a gb news concrete crisis. Us a gb news exclusive. Were speaking to the group that called themselves the blade runners who break the law by vandalising ultra low emissions around emissions on cameras around london. The blue plaque scheme, a hallmark of london streets , is a hallmark of london streets, is to be expanded to the rest of the country. So were asking this morning, where would you like to see one near you. And for who . And well also have for who . And well also have your forecast this morning. Its your forecast this morning. Its going to be a sunny one. Heres alex burkill. Good morning. Once any low good morning. Once any low cloud and fog clears away , there cloud and fog clears away, there will plenty of hot will again be plenty of hot sunshine with perhaps sunshine around with perhaps temperatures higher temperatures a touch higher than yesterday. Later yesterday. Ill have more later i well, it is 5mm well, it is our top story this morning as this concrete crisis continues. Now, nhs england has reportedly written to trusts telling them to bolster their emergency plans if the concrete in question is present in hospitals. Thats following new government guidance to schools. Well lets go to gb News National reporter Ellie Costello, who joins us from roding Valley High School in essex. Good morning to you, ellie. Look, the idea now that this situation could spread beyond just schools , possibly beyond just schools, possibly now to hospitals, possibly even to ministry of defence buildings is a huge headache for the government. Whats happening where you are on this . Where you are on this . Yes, a huge headache. Izzy and a huge concern, isnt it . The concern now being that this isnt just an issue isolated to schools, but it is schools that have been impacted first by this crisis. Now outside roding Valley High School here in essex, one of the countys most affected by this aerated concrete crisis, theres 2000 students at this school usually, but you might be able to make out behind me that building just in the centre of that playground there, that is the problem. And it has been found to have rack in its roof. The headteacher just popped out to talk to me. Now hes not able to come on camera for us just yet, but he was telling me that they found out that that building had rack was telling me that they found ouits|at that building had rack was telling me that they found ouits roof1at building had rack was telling me that they found ouits roof on building had rack was telling me that they found ouits roof on thursdayiad rack in its roof on thursday afternoons. They spent friday afternoons. They spent friday and monday in crisis talks. Really . He described it as a headache. Himars self trying to work out how theyre going to continue to teach to thousand pupils with one large building in the centre there with 18 classrooms and a dining room out of action. So it is going to have an impact on students and it is going to cause disruption. The start of term has been delayed here and today we have seen the year sevens and the year twelves come for in the first time. Many of them in year 12, the first time theyve ever beenin 12, the first time theyve ever been in this school. They have a lot of pupils that come to sixth form alone and the year sevens 240 of them coming to secondary school for the very, very first time. And weve been standing on this road outside the school. Izzy have looked very, very izzy they have looked very, very nervous. Of course, going into school first time school for the very first time today. And that added of today. And that added anxiety of knowing this rack knowing about this rack concrete. Ive just spoken to a mother, actually, who just dropped off her year seven student said she didnt student and she said she didnt really into too much detail really go into too much detail with about rack concrete with her about the rack concrete because didnt want worry because she didnt want to worry her more. You can her any more. But you can understand, the understand, cant you, the anxieties have anxieties that those pupils have and anxieties that their and the anxieties that their parents as well, dropping parents have as well, dropping them school for them off to secondary school for them off to secondary school for the very first time. Well, i spoke to this year student spoke to this year 13 student ruby , who isnt yet back at ruby, who isnt yet back at school because of the rack disruption. But she says she is feeling nervous. Feeling very nervous. So we were told a couple of days ago and the parents received a letter home. Ive seen the letter just received a letter home. Ive seen the letterjust sort received a letter home. Ive seen the letter just sort of explaining there to explaining that there was to going be arrangements for how the year groups were going to be brought back into school as well. Im quite lucky because my subjects away from subjects are away from the building, which has the concrete in so it doesnt affect me in it. So it doesnt affect me so much. I am nervous. I am definitely nervous. I mean, year 13 is a nerve racking year and im afraid about it and im already afraid about it and how its going to go and how much more content were going to have mean, ive got have to learn. I mean, ive got no how long going to no idea how long its going to take. Didnt know anything take. I didnt know anything about it before. All of this has take. I didnt know anything about out,efore. All of this has take. I didnt know anything about out,efor|m ll of this has take. I didnt know anything about out,efor|m just this has take. I didnt know anything about out, efor im just hoping s come out, so im just hoping that to be sorted as that its going to be sorted as soon as possible. As soon as possible. And have as little impact my education as little impact on my education as possible. And there are possible. And. And there are Mental Health concerns for anxious pupils. The head teacher in essex, as i say, one of the most affected counties in the country with this, a third of affected schools are essex alone at schools are in essex alone at the moment. A headteacher here, the moment. A headteacher here, James Saunders , whos at James Saunders, whos at honeywood school in coggeshall , honeywood school in coggeshall, which is north essex, hes said that he fears for the year seven students entering their first term secondary school. He term as secondary school. He worries that they could face future struggles because this is such a disrupted start to their secondary School Education and he wont be alone in those fears. And of course , izzy, as fears. And of course, izzy, as you touched upon, there , it you touched upon, there, it looks as though this isnt going to an thats just to be an issue thats just isolated to schools. Hospitals already great concern that rack that aerated, aerated concrete is going to be in hospitals up and down the country. Concerns as well for social housing as well. This as well for social housing as well. This was something that was used a lot in the Construction Industry from the 1960s to the 1990s. So it is a general concern that this wont just be isolated to schools. And you you were just hearing from grant shapps this morning whos confirmed that they are also looking at rack in government buildings. The ministry of defence. So i think there is a lot more to come on this story as we. Okay, ellie, thanks very much indeed. Right. Lets speak to pat right. Lets speak to pat mcfadden. Pat newly created post. Well, for him it is anyway. Hes the shadow chancellor of the duchy of lancaster and the labour party, National Campaign coordinator. And pat, good morning to you. I assume thats the main thrust of what youre about in this new position in it is im sorry , position in it is im sorry, its a bit of a mouthful, but youve got it perfectly there. So youve described it very accurately. What it means in real terms is shadowing the work of Cabinet Office in of the Cabinet Office in parliament and also playing this role in leading up labours general Election Campaign planning. Planning. See the guardian describing you as labours most powerful politician that most people have never heard of. Of course not. Gb news viewers. I feel like i know you well, pat, and we also you well pat, and we also know you well because been knocking because youve been knocking around havent you . Around a bit, havent you . You were a special adviser to tony know, tony blair, so you are you know, everyones talking about it everyones been talking about it the last days. Are the the last few days. You are the sort of very shining example, the last few days. You are the sort of very � ofning example, the last few days. You are the sort of very � of the example, the last few days. You are the sort of very � of the renaissance of the emblem of the renaissance of blairism. Ha blairism. Ha i dont know about that , but i dont know about that, but i quite like being able to go into a pub and have a pint of guinness in lovely anonymity. So im not going to fight the guardian description of me. Its not fame that im in this for. Its to do the best job. I can for my constituents, for the country, for the labour party. Thats what keir starmer has asked me to do. Im not too interested in the labels, to be honest. Yes i worked with tony blair. Im a great admirer of tony blairs. I think theres a lot to learn from the blair government, but its 15 years or more since he left office. So my challenge to journalism is maybe to try to widen the lexicon of descriptive words about after 15 or 16 years, i, i live in hope, nicky. Its newsworthy when five of the former advisers to blair are back in the shadow cabinet. But anyway but we move on but pat were talking about the dangers of rak and who knew what what did you know during the blair years and do you feel can you look back and say, we really tried to do something about this , or are you as guilty as this president , conservative government. Government. We really cant say that we tried to do something about the School Buildings estate. We had a programme called building schools for the future, which was a plan to renew 700 schools at at some of the schools in my constituency benefited from that programme. But it was cancelled virtually on day one after the 2010 election when we left office. And theres been an extraordinary story just in the last 24 hours that 13 of those schools that have been closed in the last few days were down for improvement under that programme. That was cancelled immediately by the conservatives when they came into office. So the situation that we have today , youre right in what youre asking in a way. Its been a long time coming, but this is an appalling indictment of 13 years of conservative rule. Imagine the picture of children either not being able to go to school or being taught in classrooms where the ceilings are being propped up by steel girders. Our propped up by steel girders. Our children deserve better than that. Children deserve better than that. And im sad to say that that. And im sad to say that under the Prime Ministers watch, there were further cuts in the School Capital programme when he was chancellor and that was all outlined the other day by the former permanent secretary at the department for education he said that the education when he said that the bid for more money to try to deal with this rat problem and they ended up with less than they ended up with less than they had in the first place. But pat, there are lessons that have to be learnt that that arent going Party Political. Going to be Party Political. I mean, when you look about this, whether its a conservative government, a coalition government, a Labour Government , why on Earth Government on this, why on earth people are asking , was anybody people are asking, was anybody building schools that were only supposed to last 30 years in the first place by using this aerated concrete . I mean, surely aerated concrete . I mean, surely that was a really bad decision from the onset . And is that the from the onset . And is that the end of that sort of thing . Are we ever likely to see that sort of bad decision again . I well, of bad decision again . I well, you wouldnt be using that material today. My understanding is it was used because it was lightweight, easy to manoeuvre and so on. The problem with the material is come, as you say , it had a sort come, as you say, it had a sort of shelf life or a, you know, an expected lifespan of about 30 years. When you get beyond that and water gets into it, it gets weak and then it can get unstable and youve got the problems that were seeing. So perhaps there is a lesson in this about being pennywise and pound foolish in that when youre rebuild ing things do it for the long term and do it in a way that will last. We learned from history about buildings that maybe we should that last and maybe we should 6my that last and maybe we should apply that lesson in the future too. But you know, i hope you forgive me for the Party Political points, because i do feel well that this should have been seen coming and something should have been done about it long before now. Well, we forgive you because the political come the Party Political points come the Party Political points come the well, the other way as well, dont they . They . And, know, we talk about and, you know, we talk about capital its sexy capital funding. Its not a sexy part thats why it part of budgets. Thats why it often. But, you know, often gets cut. But, you know, the scoring coming the point scoring is coming from the point scoring is coming from the saying, the right. Now, whos saying, well, be better well, can labour be better trusted comes trusted when it comes to investment . Only to investment . You only have to look happened with look at whats happened with labour running Birmingham City council. A party National Campaign. Coordinator. Thanks, pat. Good. Talking to you and pat. Good. Talking to you and good luck in the new. Job good luck in the new. Job right at the time, at 9 12, lets bring you up to date with the rest of todays top stories and. The head of the uks air and. The head of the uks air Traffic Control. Has said the Traffic Control. Has said the glitch that caused chaos. At glitch that caused chaos. At airports last week was. A1 glitch that caused chaos. At airports last week was. A 1 in airports last week was. A 1 in 15,000,000 occurrence. The nats. Chief executive, martin rolfe, said one of their systems failed. After it didnt process a flight plan. Flight plan. Properly. The switch to manual. Switch to manual. Processing meant the average number of plans. They could handle dropped plans. They could handle dropped. From around 400 per hour to as few as. 60,. From around 400 per hour to as few as. 60, leading to restrictions. On those flights restrictions. On those flights in and out of uk. Restrictions. On those flights in and out of uk. Airports. In and out of uk. Airports. Four of. The five people on four of. The five people on board the helicopter. That board the helicopter. That crashed outside the leicester. Crashed outside the leicester. City football stadium survived. Me to do a facetime. What . Me to do a facetime. What . What does that say about their priorities . Very strange. Yeah really, really. Very bleak. And if youre a taxpayer in birmingham, youre going to be worrying about whats. Whats next. Absolutely weve got the energy bill in the comments today. First, pmqs, of lunchtime of course, back at lunchtime today. Were going to be today. And so were going to be weve a great debate on that weve got a great debate on that energy the direction we energy bill and the direction we should the net should be going with the net zero obsession. Got a very zero obsession. Weve got a very pro a very anti. Do you pro and a very anti. Do you really want a wind turbine built on at melbourne on land near you at melbourne saying to an saying its easy to build an incinerator landfill site , incinerator or a landfill site, then have wind turbine, well, then have a wind turbine, well, shove out in water far shove them out in the water far away from peoples and away from peoples homes and that and weight loss that weight and the weight loss jab as well on the nhs which i think very divisive. Think will be very divisive. I came across by sort of and i came across by sort of complete accident in the summer up a mountain just outside glasgow. Of wind. What glasgow. Thousands of wind. What are they called . Wind turbines. Turbines and they were actually , because they were in the wilderness, they were actually quite beautiful. There was the point really, wasnt they were wasnt it, when they were first designed they were designed that they were supposed. Elegant supposed. But were they elegant , but were generating wind , but were they generating wind or doing nothing . Or were they doing nothing . No, were worrying. No, they were worrying. No, they were worrying. Whirring around, they were whirring around, but there was no one living near them anything. Literally, them or anything. Literally, this outskirts of this was the outskirts of glasgow. This was the outskirts of glaamazing. So i mean the amazing. So so i mean the theres a big revolt the tory theres a big revolt in the tory party so its a big debate. Well, it sounds like a packed show. It is. I hope so. Andrew bev, thanks very indeed. Bev, thanks very much indeed. Thank to take a break. Were going to take a break. Were talking about blue plaques who them, where they who should have them, where they should are they should have them . What are they for . Now, this blue plaques item that we were supposed to do right now. Thank you, gb views gb news viewers and listeners , as john viewers and listeners, as john says. Viewers and listeners, as john says. Oh, hiya. And isabel. And says. Oh, hiya. And isabel. And you said that the blue plaques are a london thing. This is not true. There are several near me true. There are several near me in gloucestershire , including in gloucestershire, including gustav holst and edward jenner. Great show as ever. Oh, do you know what . Theres one. A gustav holst plaque in barnes where i used to live because thats the one i was thinking of. Well, maybe he got around. Clearly got about. Yeah janice says we have quite a few blue plaques in cambridgeshire. Not just cambridgeshire. Its not just london. We have edith cavell and oliver cromwell, john. Just two names. And there are many more. And dave says theyre not in london. Only thing we have several around the village of feltham , near feltham. Feltham feltham, near feltham. Feltham near bognor regis. So so there you go. There you go. Anyway, you go. There you go. Anyway, were not going to discuss that now as were going to find out more about that and what the plan is trying to expand these. But there is theres other plaques, theres plaques, other colours. Theres blue. And then i think theres a claret, one for entertainment. People only dont know if its london or wherever it is. But interesting interesting thing. Are we going to talk about Mental Health and benefits , Mental Health and benefits, change of plan . Well, i was change of plan . Well, i was talking earlier about the blue plaque thats near the British Medical Association in Central London, which made an eyebrow. Oh, that was at charles dickens, obviously , you know those obviously, you know those wonderful books. And. Sorry, i wonderful books. And. Sorry, i was driving past it was a wicked thought that occurred to me. And i thought maybe some fiction and bma the sort of some sort of parallel in there, whether or not will make those not people will make those parallels themselves. You cant actually there are there are companies that make these and you can buy them as presents for people. And so it looks like the real thing, the original thing. But theyre theyre just for fun. You can have those put up. Think you should have do you think you should have a blue plaque on your building after gone . A blue plaque on your building aftelts gone . A blue plaque on your building aftelts for gone . A blue plaque on your building aftelts for notyne . A blue plaque on your building aftelts for not me. Mean, im its for not me. I mean, im sure theres lots of people who might interested. Might be quite interested. Are you youre a cbe, an obe and me. What are you . Im an obe. Im an obe. Obe. Exactly so maybe you deserve one. I dont think i deserve one. I dont think i deserve one, but you probably do. They would. Well, see, they would have one up there. Eamonn holmes never seen in the same room george clooney. The same room as george clooney. Yeah. Something like that up there. Something humble. Humble for. For ruth , who put humble for. For ruth, who put up with Eamonn Holmes. Humble beginnings should my Humble Beginnings should be reflect, dated and stuck up peoples noses for that sort of thing. But i do think there are thing. But i do think there are a lot of you know, particularly people who are scientific or have been very, very brave in terrible situations. I think its really a wonderful thing. And ive definitely i dont know if its an age thing, but, you know, whenever i drive past one, i stop. I take an interest. I enjoy it. It makes me marvel. And i like to think back to what that must have looked that street must have looked like time lived like at the time they lived there and how thats changed. Gustav barnes had the gustav holst in barnes had the most waterside most wonderful waterside view over now its over the river thames. Now its a road with a flood defence a busy road with a flood defence in front of it, but it probably was quite different when he was there. It a ballerina there. It was a ballerina living in was they are in a certain area was they are great inspiration to the community say, he or she community to say, oh, he or she came here. Came from here. So we can do it too. Yeah, we could do to okay, thats our 3. 5 hours done today. They felt like hours done today. They felt like seven. Hope you enjoyed it at some stage. Well be back from 6 am. Tomorrow morning. No, a. M. Tomorrow morning. No, youre doing another school run tomorrow, boys. First day at school. But ill be in on monday, as usual. Okay. Ill be here with ellie in the morning. Lets cross shortly to britains newsroom with andrew bev of the andrew and bev of the temperatures rising boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Some of us are waking up to a bit of a cloudy, murky start, but most of that will clear away this morning to leave another sunny hot day, albeit with the risk of some thunderstorms. Later taking a look at the details can see, yes, details and you can see, yes, a cloudy picture down the eastern side Country First thing. Side of the Country First thing. But that and any but most of that cloud and any fog burn back towards the fog will burn back towards the coast through the morning, leaving a brighter afternoon. But lingering across but some cloud lingering across eastern scotland, eastern parts of scotland, elsewhere across the uk, plenty of sunshine, though, perhaps a bit more cloud than recent days, particularly parts particularly across parts of northern look those Northern Ireland. Look at those temperatures higher than temperatures a touch higher than yesterday, to get to yesterday, likely to get to highs around 32 or 33 celsius in the south east which would make it hottest of the year it the hottest day of the year so as through the end so far as we go through the end of day, many places holding of the day, many places holding on skies, though on to those clear skies, though we going some showery we are going to see some showery rain feeding up from the south. And this could turn heavy, perhaps even thundery, particularly across central and western into western parts of england into wales. Northern ireland as wales. Also Northern Ireland as we go the night, we go through the night, elsewhere, therell be some clear spells and perhaps a few pockets but temperatures pockets of fog, but temperatures really could be really not dropping. Could be even last night. Even warmer than last night. So not news. You had not good news. If you had difficulty through difficulty sleeping through thursday morning, then that showery continue to be showery rain will continue to be heavy at times and perhaps thunder as it pushes further northwards into parts of scotland and continuing down the western into western parts of wales into ireland otherwise again, ireland to otherwise again, plenty of sunshine and once more temperatures really rising well above average for the time of yeah above average for the time of year. Again, in the south east we highs of around 32 we could see highs of around 32 or 33 celsius. The temperatures rising by next. Solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news good morning. Very busy show today. Weve got lots of politicians on the show today. Big debate on net zero. Yeah, thats whats gone wrong in Birmingham Council labours biggest Council Going bankrupt. Absolutely. Whats it yeah, absolutely. Whats it going for people in going to mean for people in birmingham . Council also going to mean for people in bi|risk . Ham . Council also going to mean for people in bi|risk . Dont council also going to mean for people in bi|risk . Dont anywhere. L also at risk . Dont go anywhere. This good morning. Its 9 30 am. On wednesday, the 6th of september. This is britains newsroom on gb news with Andrew Pierce and bev turner. Our hospitals going to be next as the concrete crisis continues and pressure grows on the Prime Minister, nhs england has ordered an urgent has ordered ordered an urgent review hospitals for review of hospitals for crumbling concrete backed up birmingham. The city council, the biggest in europe, has declared itself bankrupt after being hit with a £760 Million Pound bill. Was it bad management . Well, we see this happen to more of our town halls. Halls. Are you too sick to work . Well, therell be no crackdown on people claiming sickness benefits until 2025 after the general election in and a gb news exclusive, we speak to the group that call themselves the blade runners who break the law by vandalising those ulez cameras all around the. Cameras all around the. Capital all the kids know most of them are back to school today. Can i just say the roads were busy. Parents are delighted everywhere. Children are excited to go back to school. 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