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Hours time. The row over hs2 continues as senior conservatives warn against axing the rail project despite spiralling costs. Well be debating is it time to derail all hs2 or not. 7 and as always, paul coyte is here with the latest from the world of sport. I do. I do. I do. To the ryder cup preparations are hotting up, which happens at the end of the week. The ecb have vowed to change cricket for the better and the Manchester United feud continues and feud continues. The ten hag sancho continues. The ten hag sancho feud. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, that feud. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, that feud. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, that feud. Feud. Oh, yes indeed. Oh, yes indeed. Ah ha. And you can join in any of our discussions if you knew anything about that feud or any other feud youd like to discuss with us. Gb views or gbnews. Com but can tweet us gbnews. Com but you can tweet us at. Gb news. At. Gb news. So later today , the home so later today, the home secretary will make a speech in washington calling on the Un Refugee Convention to be ripped up and rewritten. Ian, for up and rewritten. Ian, for todays modern times. Todays modern times. Well, last year, Suella Braverman called for the uk to leave the European Convention on human rights, and today shell state her views on the sustainability of the current refugee policies. Her view is refugee policies. Her view is that were living in a different time and that a Major Overhaul now is due. Well, in the speech that we have seen , the home secretary have seen, the home secretary will say we cant sustain the Current System that allows refuge based on just fears of discrimination. Ian, shes going discrimination. Ian, shes going to say the status quo, where people are able to travel through multiple safe countries and even reside in safe countries for years while they pick their preferred destination in is absurd. And unsustainable i well, joining us this morning is the deputy Political Editor tom harwood. Good morning to tom harwood. Good morning to you. Tom this is a speech that will be given to a right wing think tank in washington. So shes likely to get probably a warm reception there. How controversial , though, in an controversial, though, in an international light, i suppose, are some of these comments, do you think. 7 it certainly a bold you think . It certainly a bold move. Move. Of course, this convention has been signed up to by the vast majority of countries for more than 70 years, since 1951, of course, was the date after the Second World War when countries came together to put this Refugee Convention together , either to help those who are stuck in countries where they are physically unsafe. And the are physically unsafe. And the home secretary will today be saying that it was a noble aim, that original convention. However, the way that the Global Oil Situation has changed has meant that this is now unsustainable will, in her view , too. Shell cite some Research Done by the centre for policy studies that points to over 700 million, almost 780 Million People now qualify to be able to move countries under this convention, saying that that wasnt in the scope of what was imagined back when this was drafted. Thats the home secretarys view. But certainly this will be a controversial speech to many because the United Kingdom was one of the founding signatures to this treaty. And indeed it has governed the way that people can move about international me for a long time. Its yet to be seen a long time. Its yet to be seen whether an International Consensus can be built around reforming this treaty, around updating this treaty. We havent yet heard from other countries in terms of what they make of what the home secretary is expected to say , because after expected to say, because after all, this isnt something that the United Kingdom can do unilaterally to change this treaty. The home secretary will need to make many friends overseas, and i suppose there will be claims probably from the labour party this morning that this is trying to distract from the fact that actually her own problems at home are not working so far, still havent got anybody on the bibby stockholm barge still havent sent anybody to rwanda and continuing to see huge numbers of illegal crossings across the channel thats right. The labour party line ahead of the speech is that the home secretary is failing to control the asylum system as it currently stands and should be looking to fix things here in this country before going off to washington dc and trying to change a 70 year old convention. However, of course, the home secretary points to the fact that this convention has meant that this convention has meant that there is an oppressive, tented movement of people and the right of people to move from an original country where they feel persecuted to another country, perhaps another one after that, and shop around many years after theyve left that original unsafe country to find the safe country of the destination that they want to end up in. Shell say that that is not how this should work and that this is almost a shopping around for a huge number for many hundreds of millions of people , potentially. The home people, potentially. The home secretary will say that no asylum system could cope under that sort of strain. Thanks tom. That sort of strain. Thanks tom. Thank you very much indeed. Your views, of course, are always welcome on this. A big controversial issue. A keynote controversial issue. A keynote speech from the home secretary today, gb a gbnews. Com. Or today, gb views a gbnews. Com. Or you can tweet us at gb news with the time at 6 06, some of the other stories coming into the newsroom. Yes. And theres been a covid outbreak with within the air Traffic Controller team at Gatwick Airport which is forcing it to restrict flights for the rest of the week. It means the Airports Limited to 800 flight movements per day , with the movements per day, with the airport sincerely apologising to any passengers whove been impacted. Impacted. Researchers have reported that the risks of developing long covid have been exaggerated by flawed research. This comes as a recent review found that 54 of studies as often on covid included Lab Confirmed infections, which could lead to sampling bias. A Newcastle Hospitals trust failed to send out 24,000 letters from senior doctors to patients and their gps due to a Computer System error. The trust Computer System error. The trust says it will deal with the 6000 letter backlog from last year without delay, with more than 1200 of the letters relating to medicine and Emergency Care. Medicine and Emergency Care. And this morning the metropolitan police are saying that they have received a number of non recent allegations of Sexual Offences against Russell Brand. He continues to deny these allegations , while the met these allegations, while the met has encouraged anyone who believes they may have been a victim of a sexual offence, no matter how long ago to come forward. The comedian posted a forward. The comedian posted a video onto his rumble feed last night, claiming there is a conspiracy against him. Obviously its been an extraordinary and distressing week and i thank you very much for your support and for questioning the information that youve been presented with by now. Youre probably aware that the British Government have asked big tech platforms to censor our online content and that some Online Platforms have complied with that request. Complied with that request. Well, you may not know. Is that this happens in the context of the Online Safety bill, which is a piece of uk legislation that grants sweeping surveillance and censorship powers. And its a law that has already been passed i well, joining us this morning is the gb news london reporter lisa hartle. And look, hes trying to get on the front foot, isnt he, at the moment, there have been no charges brought, but the metropolitan police now having officially launched an investigation. Investigation. Yeah, the met say that theyre investigating a number of Sexual Assault claims in london and other parts of the uk, describing them all as non recent. And this , of course, non recent. And this, of course, comes after that joint investigation by the times , the investigation by the times, the sunday times and channel fours Dispatches Programme, which found which had included four women that made claims of Sexual Assault and rape. And police say assault and rape. And police say there have, as you said, been no arrests made and enquiries continue. Now that video that Russell Brand post on social media criticised the nMps Committee for asking other social media platforms to demonetise him. That comes after platforms such as youtube stopped him from being able to make money through advertising, and he has millions and millions of views on social media. He called it a bypassing of judicial process and suggested there was a concerted agassi to silence him. Now detective superintendent andy furphy from the mets central Specialist Crime command said we continue to encourage anyone who believes they may have been a victim of sexual offence no matter how long ago it was to contact us. We understand it can feel like a difficult step to take, and i want to reassure that we have a team of specialist officers available all to advise and support. And of course, russell support. And of course, Russell Brand denies all the allegations i thanks, 5mm thanks, lisa. Thank you. Time thanks, lisa. Thank you. Time 6 10. The home secretary has launched a review into armed policing as large numbers of Firearms Officers handed in their weapons in protest after an officer was charged with murdering chris kaba. Hes 24. He was 24 years of age. Well, the officers have returned to duty following a protest and Theo Chikomba will bnng protest and Theo Chikomba will bring you more shortly. Okay. Bring you more shortly. Okay. Well, if you have just joined us, the time is 610. Youre tuned into gb news and we are on your tv online and on your radio. And heres a reminder of our top stories. The home secretary will describe International Asylum and refugee law as absurd and unsustainable as she visits washington to push for a major change to the Un Refugee Convention in over 70 years after it was signed and the metropolitan police announced theyre investigating Russell Brand over historical sexual offence allegations, as hes accusing the government of trying to control narratives. Trying to control narratives. And as scores of Firearms Officers stand down in protest just over khalife being charged with murder, well be asking the Police Minister what exactly is going on and if london is safe. Going on and if london is safe. At beer. Going on and if london is safe. At beer. Were going on and if london is safe. At beer. Were now going on and if london is safe. At beer. Were now going to raise a glass for beer. Its been a big week for beer lovers. The industry is holding its annual celebration of what is called cask ale. Yeah, its unique to the Great British pub and cask ale week is shining the spotlight on what is believed to be one of the countrys favourite tipples i in fact, people out there like it so much that they spend more than £1 billion every year. But can encourage others to try it. Save a struggling pub trade. We sent our east Midlands Reporter will hollis for a taste i forget your lager and your scrum py. Scrumpy. Its cask ale week and at the white lion in beeston theyve got lots of it. David is general manager for the Lincoln Green pub today im pouring you a pint of hood , which is our best of hood, which is our best bitter. Bitter. Its a cask ale coming straight from the lines downstairs, which im pulling through now. Its a non pressurized container, so it is not as gassy or as cold as your standard lager or bitter from the draught lines. And that from the draught lines. And that is a perfect pint of bitter for my local brewery at Lincoln Green , the nottingham pub is green, the nottingham pub is hoping to serve loads of the stuff, especially to people whove never tried it. Whove never tried it. Its keeping ian busy in the cellar every cask needs to be vented, ready for sale to get the product. Breathe in some times you get wet. Sometimes you dont just a firm smack. And that one is firm smack. And that one is a dry one. Cask is unfiltered and it aint very fizzy. Cask is unfiltered and it aint very fizzy. Unlike other aint very fizzy. Unlike other beers, you cant take it home. Youve got to go down to the pub where its pumped up from the cellar by hand. Its delicate, which is why the industry body cask marks send beer inspectors like rachel into pubs. First of all, temperature , first of all, temperature, air and for full marks. Were looking. At between 10 and 14 c. Looking. At between 10 and 14 c. This is looking good. 11. 5 to 11. 2. So thats perfect. And 11. 2. So thats perfect. And were looking at clarity of the beer to make sure that its nice and bright. The aroma, nice and fresh and the taste. Perfect fresh and the taste. Perfect brits absolutely love cask ale. In the last 12 months alone, they drank 290 million pints of it. That brought more than £1 billion into the economy. And thats why cask mark wants more brits to try it because its good for the industry and that is good for beer lovers are cracking. Lee is beer lovers are cracking. Lee is a Delivery Driver for a long time he loved lager, but then he tried cask and hasnt looked back. I tried cask and hasnt looked back. I like little brewers make and create different ales. It tastes different. Something interesting about them. Something exciting to dnnk. Them. Something exciting to drink. Not them. Something exciting to drink. Not your standard of your standard ales, but you know youre going to get in every pub that you go into. Yeah. Yeah. Cheers. Pubs are closing every day, customers trying cask might that. Will might help change that. Will hollis gb news in beeston cheers us thank you will appreciate that you are a cask ale fan. Let us know what youll be doing to try and support your local pub and whether or not youll be getting into the swing of things this week. Were not really beer drinkers, are we . No representation of that. Im more lager for more of a lager man. Yeah, more of a wine lager man. Yeah, more of a wine if it was. If it was. If it was. If it was. Wont catch me with a pint in my hand then maybe im missing out. Maybe youll persuade me. Yeah. Ill tell you who you wont also catch with a pint in their hand. Victoria beckham. Shes of a lot of the shes in front of a lot of the papers this morning, shes papers this morning, but shes been called posh and becks. I dont know can see the dont know if you can see the front the daily mail there. Front of the daily mail there. Shes launching a new Fragrance Campaign and there she is in her bra. You want me to hold it to the left . The directors telling me she stood in her bra. And if you can see her face, she looks really grumpy. Well, if shes in her bra , well, if shes in her bra, nobody will be looking at her face. Will they . Sometimes i think if they were given their the were given their names, the spice girls in todays day. Yes shed be called grumpy spice is shes so beautiful and iconic and shes done so well with her fashion brand and her makeup brand. But just smile, victoria. Youve got a beautiful smile and she just looks miserable. And she just looks miserable. And then the other half of me thinks, well, its because shes working so hard to stay skinny, but grumpy. I was just but shes so grumpy. I was just reading inside here, shes up every day at 530, does a7k run. You think thatd be enough for most people . And then she wanders a 1 to 1 at wanders off to do a 1 to 1 at 9 00 with a judo expert who comes to her £25 million mansion in holland park. Comes to her £25 million mansion in holland park. And if thats in holland park. And if thats not enough, she then goes and does a full days work, running around doing this, that and the other. And shes obviously a mum of four. Goodness why just relax. Why do it all . Yeah, why are you getting your day underway with the time at 616. Maybe youve got us on the treadmill this morning. Treadmill this morning. You were a bit now you were a bit presumptuous or pre emptive about the weather. Agnes well, we talked so much about its going to be a blustery week , wednesday. Blustery week, wednesday. Mid beds yes, tomorrow was a little bit unprepared. Yesterday was nice. Yes, it was. And i believe today is going to be gorgeous as well. Highs of 23 in most places, but this is going to be last good day for to be the last good day for a little while. Dont take it from me. Heres Aidan Mcgivern with your forecast. Warm feeling inside from that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Further rain or showers today, but it wont be raining all day. Everywhere there will be some sunshine in between, although it will blustery before storm will stay blustery before storm agnes tomorrow to bring agnes arrives tomorrow to bring a widespread swathe of disruptive winds. We start off tuesday with showers moving through southern and Central England , clearing to the east. England, clearing to the east. Another spell of wet weather moves into Northern Ireland and then scotland the morning then scotland during the morning and that clears and early afternoon. That clears to showers. Some of these to showers. Some of these showers could heavy, showers could be heavy, especially scotland especially western scotland and northern therell Northern Ireland, but therell be between. And be some sunshine in between. And in it will feel in the southeast it will feel warm sunshine whilst the warm in the sunshine whilst the strong the north strong wind in the north and northwest coastal gales is a possibility will keep it feeling on cool side. Then the on the cool side. Then the spells of rain and showers become more confined to the north and northwest of the uk. Overnight clear spells elsewhere and in the northwest. Those and even in the northwest. Those showers will generally ease by dawn. So for most, actually, its a bright start to wednesday and relatively calm start and its a relatively calm start compared with whats to come later in the day. So plenty of Early Morning sunshine, bit of Early Morning sunshine, a bit of a in the air in the north a chill in the air in the north with temperatures in the mid single nothing single figures, but nothing out the ordinary. Builds the ordinary. The cloud builds in the south and then well by later the morning, the first later in the morning, the first sign storm agnes with the sign of storm agnes with the wind picking up in the west and spells of rain pushing into Northern Ireland, southwestern scotland, sea coastal scotland, irish sea coastal areas, and that rain turning heavy the end of the day. But heavy by the end of the day. But the gales that the widespread gales that develop through western coasts could cause disruption. Could cause disruption. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Still to come , well be still to come, well be discussing why cricket may become an inclusive sport. But become an inclusive sport. But whatever. Welcome back to the program. 6 21. Youre tuned in to breakfast on gb news with amy and isabel. Thanks for your company. And its the ryder cup this weekend. It gets underway on is it thursday or friday . Friday have the opening on they have the opening on thursday. In thursday. Friday underway in rome, rome and europe. Our favourites, i think we are. I think we are. If it had been a couple of years ago then not. This time i think yes not. But this time i think yes is the answer. And you know, theres like likely to be a slight which four slight change, which is four balls foursomes. Balls and foursomes. Oh. Meaning what . Oh. Meaning what . Foursomes is when you play with one ball. So you have two a pair and then you play with one ball, alternate shots , four ball, alternate shots, four balls, obviously four ball. But but ive already i went through this the other day and ive got myself into all all over the place. I think im going down that way now. So anyway, what luke donald the european captain, that four captain, has said is that four balls would suit us better to start with because he wants to get off to a good start because he thinks europe are better at four balls, four balls than foursomes, than foursomes is exactly right. Okay. So the thing is that what im saying is that it hasnt changed at all these years. It usually starts with the foursome, the four with the foursome, then the four ball goes to the ball and then goes to the singles the last day. But singles on the last day. But being captain, he can decide being the captain, he can decide which order anything goes. Yes. So if hed said, know, so if hed said, you know, actually, what, well actually, you know what, well do . With the singles do . Lets start with the singles. He actually has the right to do that. Whoever the home do that. So whoever the home team koepka, who team is. But brooks koepka, who is liv golfer , one of the finest is liv golfer, one of the finest golfers in the world, hes the only golfer from the liv golf system thats actually playing in the ryder cup. Now hes flown in the ryder cup. Now hes flown in from chicago. So the, the in from chicago. So the, the captain, the captain of america , jack johnson, he got all the Team Together in atlanta. Team together in atlanta. Theyre all going to fly over to rome together. And then brooks koepka, theres brooks flew over on his own so people would think well this is interesting anything to do with liv whereas zach johnson said, well actually, know, its only actually, you know, its only because chicago. He because he was in chicago. He couldnt time. But by couldnt make it in time. But by some miracle he actually ended up landing in rome before the others. So we think there might be just a little bit of tension between them. But anyway, we cant wait for it to get going. Gets underway friday fourballs first, then foursomes. First, then the foursomes. Who who holds the ryder cup at the minute . At the minute . Thats. Thats the usa. Usa, usa. We were in all sorts of we usa. We were in all sorts of we got that back then. Yeah. Things things are going to change. I think were going to do very well this. Okay. Okay. So you were talking about this matches united. This feud within matches united. So between jadon, sancho this feud within matches united. So managerween jadon, sancho this feud within matches united. So manager erik| jadon, sancho this feud within matches united. So manager erik tenion, sancho this feud within matches united. So manager erik ten hag. Rancho this feud within matches united. So manager erik ten hag. Where and manager erik ten hag. Where are we at . Were at the pfa, so the professional Footballers Association have offered basically to go in and try and broker a deal, try and help out the latest that weve heard from this. I mean, this goes back a couple of weeks where Manchester United were playing arsenal and excuse jadon sancho was excuse me, jadon sancho was omitted from the team. And then omitted from the team. And then basically what had happened is that erik ten hag had said, well, hes not in the team because hes not training properly. Jadon comes back and says , oh, not true. You says, oh, its not true. You know, its all lies its all know, its all lies and its all got very bad. And so really a lot of the other players said, why dont you just apologise, move been move on, because hes been excluded from everywhere. Now, at carrington. Anything to do at carrington. Anything to do with team . With the first team . Just want a fee for oh, just just want a fee for him. Just somebody by him in the january transfer window. Get rid of him. Whats he ever done exactly . Another complete waste of from he in well, from when he was in germany, he looked like he was going fantastic. Man going to be fantastic. And man united after him for ages. United were after him for ages. Is it an attitude problem . It kind of looks like it when you look really good buys in look at the really good buys in the transfer window. The summer transfer window. People declan you know, people like declan rice, really rice, you know, really worthwhile spending money worthwhile spending that money on kane. You know, people on harry kane. You know, people say, this too expensive say, oh, is this too expensive or these these are or not . These these are the people back. Thats people that pay it back. Thats worthwhile. Spend absolutely bucks on. But its very easy with hindsight to be able say, hindsight to be able to say, well, know, thats well, you know, thats always going work. Well, you know, thats always goiimaybe ork. Well, you know, thats always goiimaybe coming over from maybe coming over from germany, its too much of a change. I dont know. But it just for whatever it just for whatever reason, it hasnt worked. Fallen hasnt worked. Theyve fallen out. Theres any saving out. And if theres any saving of marriage, i dont know. Out. And if theres any saving of man arriage, i dont know. Out. And if theres any saving of man arriage,played know. Out. And if theres any saving of man arriage,played crystal but man united played Crystal Palace in the carabao cup tonight. Have you heard about the clasico de klasik . Which means the classical. Its the classical. Its the. Its the classical. Its the. Its the classical. Its the. Its the classical. Its the. Its the dutch clasico, which is between ajax and feyenoord , the between ajax and feyenoord, the two most famous teams. So they play at the weekend and weve got a little footage of this ajax, by the way. Terrible at the moment. I actually imagine the best team in holland, one of the best, most known in europe, most well known teams in europe, 14th out of 18 them in my studio line white with a red stripe, line up white with a red stripe, the red right down. The red stripe right down. Did did your cruyff perform. It was it was it was it was regarded as very you know aspirational to get something absolutely yeah yeah absolutely. No it was an interesting kit. Right. What are we seeing here . So here we are. This is outside the johan cruyff arena. Theres always trouble such cruyff arena. Theres always troub rivals such cruyff arena. Theres always troub rivals , such cruyff arena. Theres always troub rivals , ajax such cruyff arena. Theres always troub rivals , ajax and such cruyff arena. Theres always troub rivals , ajax and feyenoord. Huge rivals, ajax and feyenoord. But this is but during the game, this is outside. Before hand. During the game, feyenoord went 3 0 up. So theyre away at ajax. This is just unthink schable at ajax. Theyre away at ajax. This is just unthink schable at ajax. So just unthink schable at ajax. So anyway, they go 3 0 up and then the fireworks and the flares start coming out. They had to abandon the game. It was that bad. So abandon the game. It was that bad. So they abandoned the game. And then its been announced that they will now continue the game behind closed doors is 2 00 tomorrow afternoon. Really . Ajax arent happy about it, but i think its like, does it carry on with a throw in or they just drop the ball where it was . Drop the ball where it was . Yeah, but just dropped the ball. Youd imagine that the fans, the reason that theyve rioted and throw everything out, and they throw everything out, you know and all the fireworks etcetera is just so well we could this abandoned and could get this abandoned and then it again. But then we can play it again. But no, friend, it doesnt work no, my friend, it doesnt work that nil down. Youve that way. Three nil down. Youve got continue on with got to continue carry on with the going to be the game. Its going to be behind closed doors and thats going afternoon. Going to be tomorrow afternoon. Just looking at yeah, i was just looking at where night. Um, it where ive lost at night. Um, it was a um, uh , i keep my was a um, uh, i keep my newspapers. Newspapers. Give me a clue. Theres a man that collects superfast cars. Do you ever have superfast cars. Do you ever have superfast. Superfast. Well, they match. Superfast. Yeah. Matchbox. Yeah. Yeah i remember matchbox. Get a matchbox car i used to get a matchbox car. I was good enough to go and. If i was good enough to go and get my hair cut, i would get a matchbox car for that. Yeah. Yeah matchbox. And then there was. Then matchbox. And then there was. Then there was corgi. What was the dinky dink. The other dinky, dinky dink. Dinky dinky. Was when you had your that was when you had your thunderbirds, your captain, scarlets dinky used to make those. Yeah. Yeah yeah. Alan brazil , former alan brazil, former footballer and. And now commentator on talksport or radio host , commentator on talksport or radio host, says it would be nuts for him to go into im a celeb jungle in case he upsets others in this spooky world. He says. As i had an he says. As i had an interview with the producer hours and in the spooky world, they asked me a question they didnt like the answer. It appears so. I dont expect to be ianed appears so. I dont expect to be invited on. Yes, i dont think so. So yes, i dont think so. So itll be great entertainment. I itll be great entertainment. I dont know. Alan brazil. Hes a lovely man. But you know, he does a drink and i dont does like a drink and i dont think hed handle with just like does like a drink and i dont think throughoute with just like does like a drink and i dont think throughout the h just like does like a drink and i dont think throughout the whole like does like a drink and i dont think throughout the whole three water throughout the whole three weeks. Youd weeks. And i think youd probably kicked off pretty probably be kicked off pretty soon. Lovely as he is. Right youre kicked nice. Youre kicked off. Nice. Thank see you thank you very much. See you again. Time. You again. A nice time. Thank you very much indeed. Right. 24 years on and i remember this like it was yesterday. Hey, are we any closer to finding jill dandos murderer . Are releasing murderer . Netflix are releasing a documentary series a brand new documentary series about presenter , about the beloved tv presenter, and well be discussing this in more detail. Next thats Tuesday Morning, everybody. Good morning to you everybody. Good morning to you onune everybody. Good morning to you online on your tv and on your radio. Youre tuned into breakfast here on gb news. Heres a reminder of our top stories this morning. And Suella Braverman will describe International Asylum and refugee laws as absurd and unsustainable. This time, shes visiting washington, dc to push for major changes to the Un Refugee Convention over 70 years after it was signed. It was signed. And metropolitan police say theyre investigating Russell Brand over a historical sexual offence. Allegations he accuses the government of trying to control narratives and as scores of Firearms Officers stand down in protest over a colleague being charged with murder will ask the Police Minister what exactly is going on and whether or not london is safe. Lets or not london is safe. Lets have a look at the front pages of the newspapers and heres how they stack up on this Tuesday Morning channel. Migrants are not refugee us, says Suella Braverman. And the mail picks up braverman. And the mail picks up on these comments that she will make in washington today for a change to International Asylum laws. Laws. Heres the times. Laws. Heres the times. Theyre heres the times. Theyre focusing on hs2. This morning, saying finances are far worse than anyone knows, which is always reassuring. The times always reassuring. The times says that the Prime Minister is alarmed by the runaway cost of hs2 and will make a decision on its future in the autumn. It is the autumn. Its future in the autumn. It is the autumn. 1 its future in the autumn. It is the autumn. 1 in 10 it is the autumn. 1 in 10 prisons should be closed down, says the guardian. Victorian jails are so poorly designed, overcrowded and ill equipped, meaning theyre not fit for purpose and should be abandoned. And so what will we have to replace those nice straight away and them all and have and close them all down and have nothing in reserve . Metropolitan police have launched an investigation into the comedian and actor Russell Brand. The mirror says more brand. The mirror says more women come forward to women have come forward to accuse the star. And as we know, he those allegations i oh, this goes on and on. The ai says labour will hit private schools with the 20 fat tax in their year of winning their first year of winning power. Would see power. The charge would see independent Schools Charity status had Status Convention have had enough pages and thank enough of front pages and thank you. Have dawn neesom now. You. Lets have dawn neesom now. Norman baker, norman, i want to go to the hs2 thing first of all. So the Prime Minister is alarmed by the runaway cost of hs2 and hell make a decision in the autumn. Do you think hes already made that decision . Hes made a decision i think hes made a decision in own head. But the problem in his own head. But the problem for him is that himars large parts of the conservative party dont agree with him. Not simply the of former ministers the kind of former ministers like Michael Heseltine and david cameron, who have come out against but also all against his plans, but also all those in the West Midlands , the those in the West Midlands, the people who are frightened of losing tory seats in the north west business, people who are saying going cause are saying its going to cause massive of employment in massive loss of employment in the rail industry. Those who are the rail industry. Those who are concerned that britain look unable to deliver a railway project. We are the nation that started the railway. We now we cant even build a railway line and reputation will and the reputation abroad will be theres a whole be affected. So theres a whole lot people with why lot of people with reasons why this really bad decision. This is a really bad decision. But give you another but ill give you another reason. By may. Okay. Which is . Which this if you end up with which is this if you end up with birmingham common, birmingham to Old Oak Common, who to go to order oak who wants to go to order oak common by way you end up common by the way you end up where oldham common. Well where is oldham common. Well its west of london somewhere. But want to go out isnt but if you want to go out isnt it from birmingham to a it if you from birmingham to a spot in middle of nowhere, spot in the middle of nowhere, a sort of bleeding stump of a railway line, why would you bother because this bother having that . Because this is transport london is what transport for london told hour and told me yesterday. And hour and 19 the fastest train 19 minutes is the fastest train from london to birmingham. Now, if you have to go to Old Oak Common change up the common change queue up the elizabeth the way elizabeth line, which by the way will and then will be at capacity and then come Central London be why come on Central London be why now 20 to houston. So now in 20 minutes to houston. So actually benefit in of actually no benefit in terms of time you know so the more time but you know so the more you cut hs2, more ludicrous you cut hs2, the more ludicrous it becomes. We actually need hs2 to go back to what i agreed as a as a as a shadow transport secretary, way back 2009, secretary, way back in 2009, which line that goes to which is the line that goes to manchester, to leeds, connects with hs1, enables trains to run through to the channel up to scotland. That was a vision i signed up to. But. Norman at what cost . At any because, you know, we any cost. Because, you know, we know that cost of steel, of know that the cost of steel, of concrete has gone up. The inflation on those particular things. Building 21 or something crazy , you know, when something crazy, you know, when do we say, hang on a minute, weve just been through a pandemic in ukraine. Pandemic war in ukraine. Finances are dire. Where do we finances are dire. Where do we carry on shelling out cost on this . Well, i mean, there has been inflation, but the main problem with hs2, frankly, is its with hs2, quite frankly, is its been mishandled been completely mishandled financially, mishandled. Thats whats done is done. You know, we are where we are. You know, we are where we are. We have make a decision on on we have to make a decision on on on the future. And therell be a lot of people saying, look, taxes time high, taxes are an all time high, the nhs falling the nhs is falling apart, the problems are manifold. Well, you cant the foreign aid budget, birmingham, aid budget, the birmingham, the birmingham has got to be birmingham link is has got to be completed because nearly completed because its nearly there anyway. What im saying if you but what im saying is if you just birmingham, then its just have birmingham, then its not having. As not worth having. You may as well manchester and but well go to manchester and but youve sort out the youve got to sort out the finances and the management this. I think the problem with this is, i mean, you know, the tories made play about levelling made a big play about levelling up were going to make up and were going to make everywhere equal, especially the northern everywhere equal, especially the norwen everywhere equal, especially the norwe want those and then we want those votes and then by cutting hs2 before it gets to leeds manchester, theyve leeds and manchester, theyve done opposite. Its done the exact opposite. Its not play well in the not going to play well in the areas where they desperately need the votes for the next election. But you know , norman election. But you know, norman and were discussing outside and i were discussing outside hs1 the hs1 everyone forgets about the fuss hs1 , which is the high fuss over hs1, which is the high speed from london down to speed line from london down to the kent coast. Everyone forgets about that is now one about that, and that is now one of the most successful, very expensive, of the most expensive, but one of the most successful we have. Successful lines we have. I agree norman i agree with norman on this. I think weve gone so far down this line now to stop it as it is, its almost pointless. Well, i the decision has been made. Its just that theyre not got the for the fight. Got the stomach for the fight. Well, they pointed out, its well, as they pointed out, its like it autumn. Autumn like it is autumn. Autumn statement what im reading. Statement is what im reading. Right. Okay statement is what im reading. Which|ht. Okay statement is what im reading. Which bit okay statement is what im reading. Which bit of ay statement is what im reading. Which bit of autumn he wants to it this week if hes got to do it this week if hes got any sense. Mean, tourists cant go i mean, the tourists cant go to manchester for their conference having cut hs2. I mean, suicidal, what mean, its suicidal, so what youll youll make jeremy youll do is youll make jeremy hunt the decision in the hunt make the decision in the autumn statement. Jeremy autumn statement. But jeremy hunt, the treasury, hunt, i think in the treasury, i know this from my own discussions, is discussions, the treasury is very about the very worried about the consequences as consequences for business as a consequences for business as a consequence being cancelled. Theres a big football owner theres a big football owner thats was it thats come out, was it birmingham or aston villa . Birmingham city or aston villa . Villa. They paid, aston villa. They were paid, i think £20 million for losing a tiny corner of their old Training Ground. And obviously, aston is run by aston villa is run by millionaires and billionaires, i think actually. So why were they being taxpayers money . And being given taxpayers money . And to be fair, theyve invested it in a new Training Ground which is benefiting the local community well. However community as well. However there is. And meanwhile, ordinary people for people are still waiting for compensation losing their compensation for losing their gardens, etcetera. Gardens, their houses, etcetera. For what . A sick note, britain. A sick note, britain. Yes. Lets talk about that. This is in the mail. Workers took an average of nearly eight days off due to illness last yeah yeah, we were discussing this the other the other week werent we. Ehm but this is a new report from should be self employed. Well this is cure their sickness. The point are self employed people came is a new people came to this is a new report from the chartered institute of personal development and its basically saying workers took an average of 7. 8 days off with illness in the past year. And as we know, weve got the highest long term sick record ever. Now which is 2. 6 Million People long term sick by way, only means sick by the way, only means taking four weeks off. That qualifies as long term sick. However, even if youve correctly pointed is correctly pointed out, there is a difference between the a huge difference between the private who take private sector who take an average of days off sick a average of 5. 8 days off sick a year and the Public Sector who take 10. 6 days off a year. So you do have to question how sick people are because if you were self employed or if you work for the private sector where terms and conditions are probably harder to get that sick pay, then you are less likely to take time off. Whereas in the Public Sector they take a lot more time off. So i think more off. So i think theres more going here than genuine going on here than genuine sickness. Norman, can we sickness. Sorry norman, can we go to the front of the mail . This is our lead story this morning. I ask you to go to this because weve got the minister, minister coming the minister coming on at the moment. Well obviously be be challenging what challenging him about what Suella Braverman is going to be saying speech we saying in this speech today. We know governments position know the governments position on human on the European Court of human rights moment. Rights at the moment. The convention rights. Convention on human rights. Theyre happy in it. But theyre happy to stay in it. But the word is that they you know, theyre keeping it on the back pocket as a of possible pocket as a sort of possible threat pull out. And now threat to pull out. And now theyve Un Convention theyve got the Un Convention on human sights. Theyve got the Un Convention on human your sights. Theyve got the Un Convention on human your view sights. Theyve got the Un Convention on human your view as sights. Theyve got the Un Convention on human your view as a sights. Theyve got the Un Convention on human your view as a sortts. Theyve got the Un Convention on human your view as a sort of whats your view as a sort of former liberal minister on on what this means International Reputation . The international well, the International Reputation britain been reputation of britain has been trashed of ways. Trashed in a number of ways. I mean, brexit done enormous mean, brexit has done enormous damage reputation damage to britains reputation abroad. Situation weve abroad. The hs2 situation weve just discussing, the just been discussing, ditto the rowing on net zero has gone rowing back on net zero has gone down really badly internationally. So were not in a position in of how a good position in terms of how people about our country. People think about our country. But terms of particular, but in terms of this particular, trump fan of the trump was a big fan of the rowing back on net zero. Im sure. Im sure. Well, thats he could be my point. President of the United States. President of the united sta well, hope not. But i well, lets hope not. But i mean, anyway on on the on the channel boat migrants here which which mail story this which is a daily mail story this is incorrect. Dont is legally incorrect. You dont determine whether someones a successful refugee by how they arrive in the country. That is not the International Definition of a refugee. You assess their case individually and actually most people who come across the channelin most people who come across the channel in fact have are successful in their application for refugee status. For refugee status. Thats my understanding is Suella Braverman objects to the law in terms of being able to say that youre gay, for example, and open to discrimination in your home country means that 780 Million People worldwide are technically eligible. And is that eligible for asylum. And is that a sustainable situation in the modern world . When this was set up in 1951 . Well, let me come to agree with on one point. But let with her on one point. But let me just say, first of all, there are people who are gay who are being murdered because their being murdered because of their sexuality under sexuality and theyre under threat and torture and threat of death and torture and life prisonment worse, as life in prisonment and worse, as a consequence of just how they are. I think thats an are. And i think thats an abhorrent situation as well. So, yes, under the same yes, theyre under the same threat as other people who are, say, political refugees. But in terms of what agree with terms of what i agree with with suella that people Suella Braverman is that people who france arent who come from france arent actually immediate threat actually under immediate threat. Thats the point. Theres an issue when people should. Thats the point. Theres an iss able when people should. Thats the point. Theres an iss able to when people should. Thats the point. Theres an iss able to claim people should. Thats the point. Theres an iss able to claim asylum should. Thats the point. Theres an iss able to claim asylum and jld. Thats the point. Theres an iss able to claim asylum and they be able to claim asylum and they should to claim should be able to claim asylum in the country they arrive in the first country they arrive in, is safe. Thats not in, which is safe. Thats not the at moment. The situation at the moment. Views. Very welcome. Gb your views. Very welcome. Gb views up next, well views gbnews. Com. Up next, well be speaking to the Police Minister, about the minister, chris philp about the state the met after the state of the met after the Firearms Officers revolt institutions in the entire world, the Roman Catholic church i welcome to the program. Were joined this morning by the policing minister chris philp, a very good morning to you, minister for bear with us while we establish that link. Hopefully well see you in just a second. Good morning. Thank you for joining a second. Good morning. Thank you forjoining us a second. Good morning. Thank you for joining us this morning. I want to talk to you about your brief. First of all, what a ferrari yesterday with the situation Firearms Officers situation with Firearms Officers and the metropolitan police, the Prime Minister saying that they are entitled to have more clarity on kind of what their legal status is in terms of these weapons. Where are we with all of this . Because were all of this . Because there were genuine yesterday about genuine fears yesterday about whether was safe. Whether the capital was safe. For example, there was for example, if there was a terror attack or similar. Well terror attack or similar. Well let me start with london. The situation in london was that we did always have the cover needed to respond to terrorist incidents. If one had occurred, for example , we did occurred, for example, we did have for a period of about 48 hours from saturday day later on saturday until yesterday afternoon, monday afternoon , afternoon, monday afternoon, when cover from the armed forces. And im very grateful to the armed forces for providing that support. But a combination of support. But a combination of officers armed officers returning to firearms duties and indeed mutual aid from other forces around the country meant that the army werent required from later on yesterday. And the from later on yesterday. And the police are providing that cover exclusively today. So there is pubuc exclusively today. So there is Public Safety is being is being covered. But more broadly , i covered. But more broadly, i think there is a there is a reasonable point that Police Officers are entitled to be to have clarity over how they will be treated if, when, when force is used. I think its critical that the police are supported by the government and others to ensure that where the force is used, protecting the public, the police are treated fairly, reasonably and quickly because it is vital that the police can do their job. Its vital the police can protect us, you know, including, for example , in including, for example, in pursuing criminals and this government will make sure that the police are enabled to do theirjob and dont suffer from either unreasonable investigations where something happens or investigations that are very, very protracted. Protracted. It definitely serves the Public Interest to make sure that the police are able to protect to us, protect the public. Where that needs to happen without the police needing to worry unduly about legal jeopardy and so as as the policing minister are are are you can you stand there and say that the police will get sufficient Legal Protection in in carrying out their jobs. Sufficient Legal Protection in in carrying out their jobs. Yes, in carrying out their jobs. Yes, we will make sure through this review that the police are able to do their job protecting the public, looking after each and every one of us without being at risk of unreasonable legal jeopardy. Now of course, there needs to be processed to make sure that the Police Conduct themselves in a way that is proper , but that cant lead to proper, but that cant lead to unreasonable investigations and it cant lead to investigations that hang over officers for years and years. Its not in the years and years. Its not in the pubuc years and years. Its not in the Public Interest that that happens because need the happens because we need the police be there police to be out there proactively the proactively protecting the public. I was at the Police National memorial day in cardiff on sunday with the home secretary and policing leaders from around the four corners of the United Kingdom and families of officers who have given their lives in the line of duty protecting us. I think we owe the police a huge debt of gratitude for the risks they take on our behalf. And we need to make sure the system is reasonable and proportionate when it in turn protects the police who are doing their job. I use the word reasonable. I use the word reasonable. How reasonable is un asylum rules . Were going to hear the home secretary talking about those today. Is she on it when she says they have come created, theyve helped in this day and age create meet the refugee problem. Im yeah. Problem. Im yeah. So the home secretary is giving a speech later on i think in washington dc setting out how the way that the asylum rules have been interpreted itd really over the last 50 or 60 or 70 years have been sort of the elastic has been stretched. And elastic has been stretched. And according to some analysis by the cps, 780 Million People could, in theory qualify. Weve seen people who are essentially economic migrant seeking to use asylum claims. Economic migrant seeking to use asylum claims. Weve seen around asylum claims. Weve seen around the world borders being crossed by enormous numbers of illegal immigrants. The us border , of immigrants. The us border, of course, i think is seeing well over 100,000 people a month crossing it. I think even so far in september this year, this month, its 140,000. Already weve seen i think its over around about 200,000 people or more crossing into the European Union illegally by boat and other means. Union illegally by boat and other means. So were seeing very large scale illegal migration and you know, that thatis migration and you know, that that is not sustainable. Where its happening for essentially economic reasons , its not economic reasons, its not acceptable. And where people are essentially shopping around or trying to sort of choose which country to seek protection in, claim asylum in, that is not reasonable either because article 31 of the convention says that you you shouldnt be you should only come directly from place of danger to claim from a place of danger to claim asylum in our own case, the case of small boats from france. It is quite clear that france is a safe country. You dont need to get into a dinghy and cross the engush get into a dinghy and cross the english to channel flee danger. But i mean, there you have the home secretary. Thats why weve gone. Thats why weve legislated domestically to say that so domestically to say that so domestically weve legislated in the illegal immigration act to say that if you come from france on a small dinghy, you cant claim and i think other claim asylum. And i think other countries around the world should consider similar measures because these movements of people enormous. People are just so enormous. Well, we know they only arrive on dinghies because there is no or legal route. But i is no safe or legal route. But i mean, i go back to the point, you there she is in you know, there she is in washington on International Washington on this International Stage presumably want washington on this international stihave presumably want washington on this international stihave internationalbly want to have international cooperation. Saying people cooperation. Shes saying people should stay the first place, should stay in the first place, that they reach safety. Well, weve a reporter in liam weve got a reporter in liam broady italy. Theyre overrun broady in italy. Theyre overrun with migrants there. What are the italians make of the italians going to make of what braverman has to say . Well, 7 well, i . Well, i mean, 7 well, i mean, first of . Well, i mean, first of all, many of the migrants arriving in lampedusa obviously had embarked from countries on the north african coast which are not their countries of origin. Many of the people arriving in lampedusa are from sub Saharan Africa , and they travel through africa, and they travel through other like tunisia , other countries like tunisia, algeria, that, algeria, countries like that, libya as well. But that isnt very safe. But algeria and tunisia, so before tunisia, more so before embarking on on that journey, you made a point a second ago saying there are no safe and legal routes. I honestly dont think thats true. If you look at the countries where at some of the countries where there is genuine danger and look at what the united has at what the United Kingdom has done ifs done to provide protection, its been just in the been very generous just in the last years, the last couple last few years, the last couple of years, weve seen, i think, getting on for 200,000 people from kong that have from hong kong that we have welcomed chinese persecution by the Chinese Communist party. I think its getting on for 200,000 people, men, children, mainly men, women and children, mainly from welcomed from ukraine, who weve welcomed to kingdom. Weve to the United Kingdom. Weve welcomed. Its about welcomed. I think its about 24,000 people from afghanistan in the last two years fleeing the taliban. That is more the taliban. That is more afghans coming via a legal route. I stress via a legal route. I stress via a legal route than have come to any other european country. So this suggestion that the uk doesnt help genuine need is i help people in genuine need is i must disrespectfully say completely nonsense. , minister, final final okay, minister, final final point. To stop it okay, minister, final final point. To stop it or okay, minister, final final point. To stop it or continue it point. To stop it or continue it i so no decisions about hs2 have been made and im not going to speculate about what they may decide. What i do know is that decide. What i do know is that the chancellor there have been significant cost overruns , as significant cost overruns, as people know, the estimated cost of building the line has gone up a lot and as i understand it, the chancellor and Prime Minister are looking at those cost and at cost overruns and looking at ways of trying get the cost ways of trying to get the cost back down, which taxpayers would expect , but no decisions at all expect, but no decisions at all have been made. I think its important to say policing. Important to say policing. Minister, good to get your thoughts this morning. Thank you very much. Thank you. Meanwhile, norman, the dem conference going the lib dem conference is going on bournemouth and you have on in bournemouth and you have an interesting observation here yesterday that the liberal democrats forced a promise to build hundreds of thousands of homes as when they didnt really want to. Well, its a genuine conference where democratic votes and people actually dont always support the leadership, which i think is rather healthy in a in a Political Party other than the kind of rallies which you see at labour and tory Party Conference. But this is actually rather arcane. It doesnt matter very much you whether very much whether you whether this or not, this motion went through or not, because the issue is , are the because as the issue is, are the houses for people who need them, i theres a target i mean, whether theres a target or weve targets now. Or not, weve got targets now. Theyre by the present theyre not met by the present government. Targets government. So the targets themselves deliver houses. Themselves dont deliver houses. The for that the the issue for me is that the houses were getting built are the sorts houses. Were the wrong sorts of houses. Were getting three and getting houses built three and four expensive houses getting houses built three and four area expensive houses getting houses built three and four area which ensive houses getting houses built three and four area which are ive houses getting houses built three and four area which are nothouses getting houses built three and four area which are not meeting in my area which are not meeting local from london. Local needs. People from london. And actually im worried about young people who need to get on the ladder. So the housing ladder. So what would like to built . Would you like to see built . Norman to be honest with you, id like to see some Council Houses built. Id like to houses built. Yeah, id like to see money from councils to see some money from councils to deal needs and to deal with local needs and to make people can get on the house. So you would side with the leadership in this row. Observer are seeing this as sort of are seeing this as a sort of humiliation the leadership humiliation for the leadership by members ship sign by the members ship and a sign of perhaps divisions the of perhaps divisions within the liberal of perhaps divisions within the liberother divisions emerging also other divisions emerging around the rejoining the European Union. Well, thats thats more of a division. I mean, i dont think its i dont its a humiliation. Dont think its a humiliation. Thats as thats not true because, as i say, were a Democratic Party and people just vote as they want on the issue. So they should no. I think the real should do. No. I think the real issue how many houses are issue is not how many houses are on the issue is what on a target. The issue is what kind of houses are built and the wrong sorts built. Wrong sorts are being built. Talk about jill don, can we talk about jill dando big documentary coming out on netflix today . A dear on netflix today . Eamonn a dear friend jill and i had the friend of jill and i had the pleasure with nigel pleasure of working with nigel dando years the bbc dando for many years at the bbc at beginning of my career at the beginning of my career and him a friend. So and consider him a friend. So were kind of personally were both kind of personally interested but interested in this story. But i think its gripped the nation. What is 24 years, 1999 . What is it, 24 years, 20 1999 . Didnt work with i actually i didnt work with jill, but i interviewed her literally weeks before she was killed. And was obviously she killed. And it was obviously she was a presenter of crimewatch and the Netflix Documentary is coming out and its reinvestigating the case, as we know. Barry whats his name . Know. Barry whats his name . I cant remember her surname. Yeah, the guy who was convicted and yes , sorry. Convicted and yes, sorry. Was convicted, falsely convicted and served time for her murder. But obviously she was found not guilty. So there are still big questions. I mean, as we all remember from the time there was like, you know, was it a serbian hitman because shed been working with kosovan refugees, was it one refugees, ironically, was it one of the big london crime families . Because she was presenting crimewatch had presenting crimewatch and had sort outed some of the sort of like outed some of the things going on there . Or was it keith, ken . Keith noise , the keith, ken . Keith noise, the road rage killer who killed that lad on the m25 . Barry george was the name barry barry george apologies, but or was it keith noise . They were all the theories going around at the time and the Netflix Documentary, to me, isabel doesnt seem to move any of them on, really. There arent many answers because we are so far on now and you know heart goes now and you know your heart goes out jills family and friends out to jills family and friends who dont have any who who still dont have any answers this might not answer answers in this might not answer any of those questions, but a colleague of the newsroom this morning gets morning said as soon as she gets home, going to go and home, shes going to go and binge watch the documentary. Its compelling. Its its still compelling. Its still its one. Its still its still its one. Its one she was nations one because she was the nations sweetheart. Absolutely lovely. She was absolutely lovely. I mean, and we got on incredibly well. And obviously, i interviewed her about her crimewatch one of the crimewatch work. And one of the questions her, questions i asked her, ironically, was womans ironically, this was the womans own magazine back the day. Own magazine back in the day. One the questions i asked her one of the questions i asked her was, you write about one of the questions i asked her was, personalyou write about one of the questions i asked her was, personal safetyite about one of the questions i asked her was, personal safety and bout one of the questions i asked her was, personal safety and she your personal safety and she said, well, sort of , yes, but said, well, sort of, yes, but not really, because, know , not really, because, you know, its get the sense she its did you get the sense she was worried for her safety . Was worried for her safety . No. No. She funny. No. No. She funny. Funny. One of the last times i met her was standing in her doorway where she was actually murdered. And that sort of never murdered. And that sort of never leaves my head. What the tides were like there and what the door was like and all that sort of thing. But the thing is, you would have to ask why . Why would anybody want to do this . I mean , people who dont rememberjill dando or whatever, would be dando or whatever, this would be like, shes like diana almost. She was the same sort of look and. And age. Yeah. She did remind exactly. Yeah. She did remind me diana. Me very much of princess diana. Would be like, you this would be like, you know, your favourite newscaster or whatever. Fiona bruce. Sophie raworth and a matter raworth, whatever. And a matter of fact, jill was much bigger. She was jill. Jill was bigger. She was like mini diana. She was like a mini diana. She was like a mini diana. Many programs and things so many programs and things that did the Holiday Program i well, hm well, that was another theory at the time. Do you remember that particular theory where she was filming one of the Holiday Programs and she turned down the advances a mysterious russian advances of a mysterious russian 7 advances of a mysterious russian . And was another theory. I . And that was another theory. I mean, her spurning his mean, was her spurning his advance is another reason that she was, you say, she was, as you say, assassinated cold blood in assassinated in cold blood in west london in broad daylight on her doorstep. I mean, it was it was utterly shocking. You and Cliff Richard and her used sort have dinners used to sort of have dinners together little trio for together and a little trio for a while. Werent you quite poorly , that im trying to , is that right . Im trying to reminisce your reminisce about some of your jill dando. , yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Going all shy on me . No no, no, no. We were very, very friendly. I mean, i would visit her house. She would visit my house. Yeah. Yeah. So its quite what amazed me is that i was one of the last people to see her. And yet the police took three years before they even contacted. Were a yeah, that there were a lot. Yeah, that was. Was the other thing was. That was the other thing i remember. I mean, there were a lot of questions about the lot of questions about how the police case. I Police Investigate this case. I mean, talking to people mean, by not talking to people who you would have thought like yourself been talked yourself should have been talked to away. You were the to straight away. You were the one last people to see her. One the last people to see her. And like, why not . Why . And its like, why not . Why . Well get people at maybe well get people at home. Know memories home. Let us know your memories of what did she mean of jill dando. What did she mean to you be watching to you . Will you be watching this documentary with interest . And some and we will try and reflect some of throughout the course of those throughout the course of those throughout the course of the morning. But for now, thank to norman thank you very much to norman and guys. And dawn. Thanks guys. Well see. Dawn and norman again in about minutes time. Again in about 40 minutes time. Heres Aidan Mcgivern , the heres Aidan Mcgivern, the temperatures rising. Temperatures rising. Boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Further rain or showers today , but it rain or showers today, but it wont be raining all day everywhere. There will some everywhere. There will be some sunshine between, although it sunshine in between, although it will before storm will stay blustery before storm agnes arrives tomorrow to bring a widespread swathe of disruptive winds, we start off tuesday with showers moving through southern and Central England, clearing to the east. Another spell of wet weather moves into Northern Ireland and then scotland the morning then scotland during the morning and. That clears and early afternoon. That clears to some of these showers to showers some of these showers could be heavy, especially western scotland northern western scotland and Northern Ireland, be some ireland, but therell be some sunshine between. The sunshine in between. And in the south east it will feel warm in the sunshine strong the sunshine whilst the strong wind northwest wind in the north and northwest coastal a possibility. Coastal gales is a possibility. Will keep it feeling on the cool side. Then the spells of rain side. Then the spells of rain and showers become more confined to north and northwest of to the north and northwest of the uk overnight. Clear spells elsewhere and even in the northwest. Those showers will generally by so for generally ease by dawn. So for most , actually, its a generally ease by dawn. So for most, actually, its a bright start wednesday and its a start to wednesday and its a relatively calm start compared with whats to come later in the day. So plenty of Early Morning sunshine a of a chill in sunshine and a bit of a chill in the air in the north with temperatures in the mid single figures, but nothing the figures, but nothing out of the ordinary. The builds in ordinary. The cloud builds in the and well, the south and then well, by later the morning, the first later in the morning, the first sign storm agnes with the sign of storm agnes with the wind picking in the west and wind picking up in the west and spells of rain pushing into Northern Ireland, southwest and scotland, irish coastal scotland, irish sea coastal areas rain turning areas and that rain turning heavy the end of the day. But heavy by the end of the day. But the widespread gales that develop through western coasts could disruption. Could cause disruption. The temperatures rising , boxt the temperatures rising, boxt solar are proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Weather on gb news. Well, a very good morning to you. Itsjust well, a very good morning to you. Its just about to turn 7 00 on tuesday, the 26th of september. There you go. Its turning 7 00 now. And you are tuned into breakfast on gb news with Eamonn Holmes and isabel webster. Thank you for your company, wherever you are, wherever youre listening, wherever youre listening, wherever youre watching, leading the news this what news this morning. This is what weve absurd and weve got absurd and unsustainable. That is how the home secretary will describe International Law designed to protect Asylum Seekers. Shes in protect Asylum Seekers. Shes in washington, where she will set out the case for a Major Overhaul of the Un Refugee Convention. More than 70 years since it was signed and the metropolitan police says it does not need military support after scores of armed police stood down from their duties in protest after a colleague being charged with murder in the last few minutes, the policing minister told us that a government review will make sure that armed officers are better protected legally within reason i we will make sure through this review that the police are able to do their job protecting the public, looking after each and every one of us without being at risk of unreasonable legal jeopardy. Legal jeopardy. Its the Intelligence Services post, an advert for interns from non white backgrounds only. We will be debating if the focus on diversity has gone too far. Diversity has gone too far. Ah, and as always , you can ah, and as always, you can join in any of our discussions by emailing us gbviews gbnews. Com or you can tweet us at. Tweet us at. Gb news. Were just building up that later today, the home secretary will make a major speech in washington calling for the Un Refugee Convention to be ripped up and rewritten because she feels its not a right document for modern times. For modern times. Us yes. Last year Suella Braverman called for the uk to leave the European Convention on human rights. Today shes setting her sights on the un and stating her views on the sustainability of current refugee policies. Her view is refugee policies. Her view is that we are living in a different time and that a Major Overhaul is due so whats the home secretary going to say . She will say we cant sustain the Current System that allows refuge based on just fears of discrimination in the status quo, where people are able to travel through multiple safe countries and even reside in safe countries for years while they pick their preferred destination is absurd and unsustainable. Unsustainable. Well well, lets pick up this point with the chair of the labour party , Anneliese Dodds, labour party, Anneliese Dodds, whos joining us this morning to talk about this and the rest of the days news. Good morning to you. First of your reaction you. First of all, your reaction to this . I mean, talking to this . I mean, shes talking sense, isnt she . The worlds a very different from 1951, very different place from 1951, and shes arguing that under current un rules, 780 Million People would be entitled to move as Asylum Seekers. And she calls it asylum shopping, as Asylum Seekers. And she calls it asylum shopping , where they it asylum shopping, where they choose the place where they can get the best deal. That cant be right. Right. Well, actually intervene. Well, actually intervene. National conventions are not the reason why the conservative government is failing. In particular to take action against the International People smuggling gangs. Theyre not the reason why the conservative government has such chaos in the asylum system. Theyre not the reason why british taxpayers are paying reason why british taxpayers are paying £8 million a day on accommodation. Im a paying £8 million a day on accommodation. Im a im afraid the responsible party for all of this lies squarely with the conservative government. You know, weve seen convictions for people smugglers going down significantly under the conservatives. Weve seen the rate of returns of people whose applications have failed are also going down precipitously , also going down precipitously, down by 70. Im afraid the reason for these problems is, is that conservative government that conservative government that doesnt have a plan. You know, we have huge amounts of rhetoric, constant rhetoric from the home secretary, but no delivery. Labour has got a plan that we would be enacting right now to get a grip on this. Thats the difference between labour and the conservatives effectively, and this is what the say to the government would say to re enter eu quotas and take a number of migrants from the eu, perhaps even more than we get now. Well, thats complete now. Well, thats complete nonsense. That applies if youre nonsense. That applies if youre a member of the European Union and labour will not rejoin the eu. And i think again, your question , if i may, pointed out question, if i may, pointed out the problem here. Theres a huge amount of talk from the conservative government, but their delivery is absolutely woeful. The rate of convictions, as i said, of people smugglers, has actually gone down. Theyre not taking to action deal with this. Labour set out clear plans for us to get a grip on this. You know, for example, to be sharing intelligence , to have sharing intelligence, to have joint police cells, to really crack down on those people smugglers. Weve had nothing of that from the conservatives. A lot of rhetoric, yes, but not delivery. Delivery. Now youre going to deliver a speech today. I like i like this anneliese because you are also the shadow woman and equalities secretary. And i think this is very, very important. And this is about the menopause and the menopause. I would say, as a man doesnt only affect women, it affects families. It affects employers, which youre going to talk about as well. And it talk about as well. And it affects everybody around in the company of a woman who may well be going through this. And i think theres some really interesting advice. There were what what what are you trying to get across . What are you trying to say to employers about the menopause . Menopause . Well, weve been having a lot of discussions with employers and with businesses , and theres and with businesses, and theres and with businesses, and theres a huge amount of concern about whats happening to workers , whats happening to workers, both men and women, over the age of 50. So weve seen a big drop off in the number of women in the workforce between the age of 50 and 64. So 185,000 women have left the workforce. Now, for left the workforce. Now, for some, thats because of choice. But in many other cases , its but in many other cases, its for other reasons. They might be on an nhs waiting list. For example , but also many of them example, but also many of them have said theyre finding it impossible to deal with their menopausal symptoms. When they have those symptoms at the same time as working. And theres time as working. And theres some Pretty Simple things actually that employers can do to help here. Youve got Companies Like tesco , for Companies Like tesco, for example, that have changed their uniform to help women who might be having hot be experience having hot flushes, for example. Youve got flushes, for example. Youve got other employers have looked other employers that have looked at working system at their Flexible Working system or theyve looked at how they record menopause related absence and leave. So really simple measures that are good for business and good for those women as well. Women as well. And i think its very, very interesting that youre going to advise employers about staff uniforms, about temperature controlled areas, about Flexible Working. And, you know, a lot of working. And, you know, a lot of this can be laughed at and mocked. But goodness me, i tell you, i know for women that dont go out the door without having a small fan in their handbag, really to deal with the temperature changes and whatever. So all of this, i think, would be very, very welcome. And its an interesting thing that youre taking menopause series. Thing that youre taking menopause series. Sally thing that youre taking menopause series. Sally. Well, yes. And we think actually the vast, vast majority of businesses really want to be supporting their women workforce. And im thinking when youre speaking to raymond about a case where ive been talking with a younger manager, male manager , he said he just didnt manager, he said he just didnt really understand what he could do to support , you know, he do to support, you know, he didnt know enough about it and he wished that there had been a source of information about what he could do. Also how he could start the conversation with his employees and be open to having that discussion with them. So this is just about helping really those businesses that want to be doing the right thing and they need to be able to retain that workforce. You know, very often these workers will be the most experienced at in a particular workplace. We cant afford for them to be actually leaving the workplace. But 1 in 10 women of that age have said theyd had to leave work because theyd had to leave work because they could not combine their existing work patterns with managing their symptoms. So weve got to do something about this. I want to ask you about the big labour policy thats making front news this morning. Front page news this morning. And the tax that you and this is the 20 tax that you want onto independent want to lump onto Independent Schools of schools within the first year of winning power. The education secretary gillian keegan, calling this the politics of envy an attack on aspiration. Envy an attack on aspiration. The independent sector are warning of widespread closures. And i put it to you that means some of our best schools, some of our most Successful Schools will actually just be packed full of international elites, chinese and russian and british children will be squeezed out. Children will be squeezed out. Well, actually, i think we need to look at the evidence here. The institute for fiscal studies, which is a really well respected body, theyve looked at whats happened over the last 20 years in private schooling and pretty much year on year youve seen increases in fees very much beyond inflation. But theres been no decrease in the number of students who have been attending and pupils who have been attending those schools. So i some of the figures that i think some of the figures that are around really are being bandied around really are being bandied around really are pretty much plucked out of thin air. Theres no evidence for them. And, you know, ultimately politics is about making choices and its about making choices and its about making fair choices. Labour is making fair choices. Labour is not going to be setting out unfunded commitments. We had unfunded commitments. We had that under liz truss. Look at the impact it had on our economy and mortgage holders still paying and mortgage holders still paying for it. Now we will not make unpaid for promises. We are clear were going to use that money so that every child can have an excellent education. Thats being open and thats being clear about how were going to pay for that change. And i think its absolutely right that labour that. Right that labour does that. Away that charitable you take away that charitable status and do you status though, and do you therefore fair enough, pull therefore say, fair enough, pull up drawbridge , dont do up the drawbridge, dont do anything your Community Anything for your community because much many of because we know how much many of these private schools do for these big private schools do for local schools, for children. And local schools, for children. And again, the education secretary talking numbers talking about the numbers of scholarships bursaries. If scholarships and bursaries. If all those kids are then all of those kids are then forced into the sector, forced into the state sector, she says, that would cost £1. 1 billion. Is. Billion. Is. Well, i dont think theres any evidence that we would see the kind of closures that some have suggested. Oh oh have suggested. Oh oh projections just simply do not hold water. And ultimately , 90 hold water. And ultimately, 90 of children are not going to private schools. We need to ensure we get more resource into that system so that every school can be excellent. And labour is can be excellent. And labour is being very upfront and fair in how we regenerate that revenue to pay for the change. Anneliese dodds always, as always, a pleasure to talk to you and listen to you. Youll stimulate debate with us this morning. We say goodbye to you. Thank you very much for your time this morning. Well, you saw him make a little cameo there, tom harwood popping little cameo there, tom harwood popping second or two. Popping up for a second or two. He joins us this morning. We remind him he made it Anneliese Dodds. Theres a few things we want to talk about there. Going get there. And were going to get your on those school your views on on those school debate. Isabel saying private debate. Isabel saying private School Children being forced out into the state system. What is into the state system. What is that like . What is that going to be like . Well, it just means theres a bigger cost to everybody. If you then have to be paying for using private medicine or not using private more of a burden on the state centrally. Whats your view on that . Do you it doesnt affect you you think . It doesnt affect you one other . As one way or the other . As Anneliese Dodds was saying, 90 of are in the state of children are in the state system anyway. The system anyway. Also the menopause is interesting to see that labour are offering guidance if theyre elected with all of that and what guidance would you like to see regards the menopause and how seriously should it be taken . Do you use should it be taken . Do you use a gb news dot com now . Tom harwood. Here we go. Yes. And tom, i dont know if yes. And tom, i dont know if youre aware you popped up, made little cameo there and we can see youre at lib dem conference this morning, but actually youre talking to us about something different. Something totally different. What talking us about . What is tom talking to us about . Suella braverman in the United States . Yes and we spoke just briefly with Anneliese Dodds about of that and about her about all of that and about her changes asylum , International Changes to asylum, International Conventions, labour , theyre conventions, labour, theyre saying its got nothing to do with International Conventions that we have this crisis. Whats your analysis of all of it . Yes. Well, the labour partys line is, of course, as weve just heard from Anneliese Dodds , that the home secretary has lost control of the borders here for at home that the home secretary is not managing the asylum system as it exists properly. However, of course the properly. However, of course the home secretary would point to the fact that many countries are suffering under big, big numbers of people moving around the world as things stand governed. World as things stand governed. Of course, by that 1951 convention on refugees that the United Kingdom was a founding signature to over 70 years ago. Clearly were seeing huge numbers of migrants moving around , both for those that are around, both for those that are seeking refuge, but also those who are seeking better economic circum stances for themselves. Circum stances for themselves. And the home secretary later today will point to Research Done by the centre for policy studies that shows under the terms of the 1951 convention, 780 Million People would be able to move around many of whom may choose to use those freedoms granted by that convention to move for economic reasons rather than for genuine safety fears and the home secretary will later on warn about what she perceives as the potential for people to shop around for countries rather than simply go to that first safe, safe country to that first safe, safe country to escape disaster in their home country. The idea that people might move from one country to another to another, and several years later set upon a country they want to move to. The home secretary will make a an unusual step, i suppose , in saying that step, i suppose, in saying that this treaty needs to be updated , this convention needs to better reflect the world in which we live today rather than the world of the immediate post war era. However, the big post war era. However, the big question is will any other countries get behind the home secretary . Its not something the United Kingdom can do. Unilad literally to change this convention in the home secretary will need to win some friends. Tom, thank you very much indeed and everybody else. Thank you for your views that are coming in today on hs2. An interesting view. This heres interesting view. This heres dave. If Building Work had begun in the north and worked on the country , there would be no country, there would be no argument over this. It would be built because theyre working up the country. The north doesnt matter. I think i suspect theres some truth in all of that. John kelly says get rid of hs2. John kelly says get rid of hsz. Its john kelly says get rid of hs2. Its of no use to anyone. Hs2. Its of no use to anyone. Well, probably him. Where does he live . Where does he live . Probably. Probably. Probably. Probably nowhere near it. Thats why car scale , we had thats why car scale, we had a feature on car scale today and james says its the price of beers in this country, not the quality that counts. Lower the prices. So pubs and the industry can flourish once again. And steve says, ive been a cask ale drinker for many years and im a long serving member of camra. Long serving member of camra. Thats the campaign for real ale. When i enter a pub, i always look for an unfamiliar brew to try rather than sticking to the same old, same old. And i get. I get. Get. I get. Im definitely not one if im having one drink because im driving. Driving. When have you ever had one dnnk . L when have you ever had one drink . I suppose if im driving or if im trying to be responsible. Yes. I dont want to waste my 1 or 2 drinks on something i dont know that youre taking a risk on, whereas, you know, i get very upset if i dont have a specific type of wine, so. Right, right. Right, right, right. Right, right, right. Not very adventurous. So im not very adventurous. So i this. Yes but i do admire this. Yes but i think risky. Thats all im saying. And i think as well, i mean, for a while, my son brewed ale, did he . Yes. We had our own brand, our little microbrewery. Yes. Too, called yes. I had it, too, called gallopers. Right. Named after gallopers. Right. Named after a headless horseman in belfast called galloper thompson , of couise. Course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it was, if you heard galloper thompson on his horse. He was. He was decapite hated, you see. And then really, when my appetite for a drink. But you see, his his horse came out at night. You heard his night. It was you heard his horse clipping. Clipping, you know, through the alleyways and the through the alleyways and things like that. The ale was but anyway, the ale was called anyway , i called gallopers. And anyway, i find that there was far too much variety. Yeah. There was. Everybody had a, like a an ale too much choice. Its like when you go to a restaurant and the menu is four pages long. Im always suspicious. Yes. Give me a small selection. Yes. Perfect collection of things. And i would be a bit of a wimp on this. I mean, i do love beer on tap peroni. Yeah. Beer on tap peroni. Yeah. Lager. Yeah. Lager. Yeah. I dont mind a peroni myself if i have to if i have to, but its only if im desperate and its only if im desperate and it has to be really cold. So the ale stuffs a bit too strong for us. Us. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, i think its not really. I think. Can i just say, before we move on, lots of you really touched by the jill dando document. And its funny because we were saying its so long since it happened, but so many people love jill dando. People really love jill dando. And ive lost the email now, having said that, but lots of emails of people she was emails of people saying she was a she was a girl, she was the girl next door girl next door. And conspiracy and then lots of conspiracy theories about why she was theories about why why she was targeted. I think that targeted. I do think that working crimewatch working on crimewatch probably carries risk because carries a bit of a risk because you are kind of going after the criminal gangs and especially as an woman, think im an attractive woman, i think im not its a job want not sure its a job id want just in case anyone was thinking of me for the gig in the future. Rule out of that one. But rule me out of that one. But yes. So your memories this morning jill dando. Got morning of jill dando. Weve got lots of our sort of personal lots of our own sort of personal connection ones, but will you be watching the documentary and if so, why . 770 . No, 18 minutes. 7 09 oclock. Look at some of the other stories that youre waking up to on this Tuesday Morning. The metropolitan police have said theyve received a number of non recent allegations of Sexual Offences against the actor and comedian Russell Brand as he continues to deny the allegations. Whilst the mets allegations. Whilst the mets encouraged anyone who believes they may have been a victim of Sexual Offences no matter how long to forward , the long ago to come forward, the comedians a video onto comedians posted a video onto his feed last night, his rumble feed last night, claiming was a conspiracy claiming it was a conspiracy against him. Against him. As youve been hearing, the home secretary has launched a review into armed policing as large numbers of Firearms Officers have handed in their weapons that was yesterday in protest after an officer was charged with murdering that man. 24 year old chris kaba. 24 year old chris kaba. And officers have now returned to duty following the protest. And chris philps, the minister of state for crime, policing and fire, spoke earlier to us about it this morning. To us about it this morning. Well, through this review that the police are able to do theirjob protecting that the police are able to do their job protecting the that the police are able to do theirjob protecting the public, looking after each and every one of us without being at risk of unreasonable legal jeopardy. Unreasonable legal jeopardy. Now, of course, there needs to be processed to make sure that the Police Conduct themselves in a way that is proper, but that cant lead to unreasonable investigations and it cannot lead to investigations that hang over officers for years and years. Its not in the Public Interest that that happens because we need the police to be out there proactively protecting the public. A fascinating story this covid outbreak at Gatwick Airport within the air Traffic Control section is forcing the airport to restrict flights for the rest of the week. This will be particularly bad on friday. Yes. And i believe it could affect 10,000 people. The airports limiting its flights to 800 movements per day , saying to 800 movements per day, saying theyre sincerely sorry to any passengers who have been impacted. I wonder, will that just be gatwick or will that not . I think a lot of the other airports will take some of the extra flights onto to their runways, which might mean a few extra delays. We will speak simon calder we will speak to simon calder later in the program this later on in the program this morning. Hes the sort of travel independent travel expert who always everything about always knows everything about all of these things, doesnt he . Hes man know. Hes the man in the know. So if youre flying tomorrow, theres going big theres going to be a big depression called agnes out there youd want to avoid there that youd want to avoid it. Mcgibbon you more i a a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello on. Gb news. Hello very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Further rain or showers today, but it wont be raining all everywhere. Raining all day everywhere. There sunshine in there will be some sunshine in between, although it will stay blustery before storm agnes arrives tomorrow to bring a widespread swathe of disruptive winds. We start off tuesday with showers moving through southern and Central England, clearing to the east. Another spell of wet weather moves into Northern Ireland and then scotland during the morning and afternoon. The morning and early afternoon. That showers as some that clears to showers as some of these showers could be heavy, especially and especially western scotland and northern therell Northern Ireland. But therell be sunshine in between and be some sunshine in between and in will feel in the south east it will feel warm the sunshine whilst the warm in the sunshine whilst the strong the north and strong wind in the north and northwest gales northwest coastal gales a possibility will keep it feeling on the cool side. Then the spells of rain and showers become more confined to the north and northwest of the uk overnight. Clear spells elsewhere and even in the northwest. Those showers will generally ease by so for generally ease by dawn. So for most, actually, its a bright start to wednesday and a start to wednesday and its a relatively calm start compared with whats come later in the with whats to come later in the day. So plenty of Early Morning sunshine, a bit of a chill in the air in the north with temperatures mid single temperatures in the mid single figures, nothing out of the figures, but nothing out of the ordinary. Builds in ordinary. The cloud builds in the south and then by the south and then well, by later the morning, first later in the morning, the first sign storm agnes with the sign of storm agnes with the wind up in west and wind picking up in the west and spells of rain pushing into Northern Ireland, southwestern scotland, irish sea coastal areas and that rain turning heavy the end of the day. But heavy by the end of the day. But the gales that the widespread gales that develop through western coasts could cause disruption , a could cause disruption, a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. And well take a break. And then up next, something to get your blood boiling. The Intelligence Services, the secret service says they have an adverse for young people to join them, but yeah, only for non white backgrounds. Non white backgrounds. So quite controversial. Well be debating this focus on diversity. Has it actually now diversity. Has it actually now gone too far . So you can only have spies that arent white . Well, we can only apply white need not apply after this. Okay. The uks Intelligence Services. So were talking about spies, whatever it is, m15, m16 put out a new advert for internal ons and they are trying to encourage underrepresented groups to apply. But it has led to what a backlash , right . To what a backlash, right . And it leads into our debate this morning. We are asking, has the focus on diversity gone too far . Because as weve got in the studio, amy, Nicole Turner and Albie Amankona to discuss all of this. So ill be you think it has gone too far . Far. Has gone too far . Far. Yes. I think in this instance, the way that these organisations are trying to improve the diversity of their workforce is totally wrong. I think its perfectly fine for organisations to be encouraging people from so called underrepresented groups to be applying for certain jobs. I think thats completely fine. No one can really argue with that. One can really argue with that. But when it gets to a point where you are saying only this group of people can apply and this group of people, mostly white men, do not apply. I think thatis white men, do not apply. I think that is totally wrong. I mean , that is totally wrong. I mean, weve managed to get to a situation in this country where in the criterion of some of these job adverts, you would be thinking that a White Working Class boy from a single parent household was privileged and the son of a of an african oil baron who had gone to eton is not privileged. And that is completely nonsense. I mean, we see it sometimes in this industry and exactly that scenario whereby white people have been, you know, overlooked by very privileged people from backgrounds because it takes a diversity box. But actually, if you look at their own personal privilege , you own personal privilege, you could argue that the could probably argue that the oil the princes oil barons son or the princes son is probably had more privilege during their lives. Do you not take umbrage at being told people apply . 7 no, 7 no, because . No, because this is an example of one internship. Now, its important that is an internship because with anything positive discrimination is illegal in this country and were talking about positive action in where whats the candidates with the candidates are of equal merit. It is targeted and it is proportionate. Addressing the underrepresentation of a certain group. So within the special Intelligence Services they are there is plenty of reports to show that there are certain groups that are underrepresented. Right . So to address that ,. Right . So to address that, theyve gone in right at the root and theyve offered an internship to, uh, to the underrepresented group. This is only one internship. Theres plenty of others available on their website. But this is just their website. But this is just a targeted proportion. Response a targeted proportion. Response to offer equal opportunities just to level out the Playing Field because women in car mechanics , though, shall we say, mechanics, though, shall we say, men need not apply. You know, only women should 6my you know, only women should apply become mechanics, apply to become mechanics, to balance the discrimination balance out the discrimination between the genders and, you know, it just where do you draw the line in all of this . Why doesnt it go on merit . It does. It does. It does. It should be on merit, really , amy and the example that you just where its just just used there, where its just an internship levelling the Playing Field is wrong because in that scenario, which i said to you earlier on, the son of a Nigerian Oil Baron who had gone to encouraged to apply to eton, is encouraged to apply for internship. But then for this internship. But then the of single parent the son of a single parent household, white, parent household, white, single parent household, white, single parent household on the english coast is well, thats completely is not well, thats completely wrong because because this internship for socio internship was for Socio Economic deprived bame candidates and there are plenty of other ones on offer for everyone else. Everyone else. For the working class single parent that you mentioned now. So there are two different internships, but the important thing to remember is that in any job where you where theres positive action involved, so say if you had a Primary School and all of the teachers were women and then you had two candidate s and then you had two candidate s and you would pick and they were completely equal merit, completely equal merit, completely equal merit, completely equal merit. Thats the key. Then you probably pick the key. Then you probably pick a woman to even out the workforce. No id probably pick a man. Sorry. Sorry yeah, you probably pick a man if it was, it was the final, final post and it was the final, final post and it was the final, final post and it was a tiebreaker situation. It was a tiebreaker situation. And youve got a female workforce. Youd pick a man at workforce. Youd pick a man at that point, and thats. Thats where this type of intervention is welcome and is and is probably why. So say the Intelligence Services they have been commended for their social mobility because theyve had schemes like this for the past like five years and theyve worked out really well. And so its been proven to work. And i think thats why theyre are offering this internship again. Just had an email in well, i just had an email in from stick delaney. Saw the advert on tv i just saw the advert on tv for gchq. I worked for gchq for 32 years and this is one of the reasons i left diverse city came before National Security , and before National Security, and that cannot be the case. This and extra ordinary claim from him. Look , i think this viewer is look, i think this viewer is totally right. Totally right. And i think a lot of people who will see adverts like those will feel exactly the same way. I mean, if we look at the other example, which has inspired this talking this morning, the example, which has inspired this talijobs this morning, the example, which has inspired this talijobs scheme,; morning, the example, which has inspired this talijobs scheme, whereing, the example, which has inspired this talijobs scheme, where theyre bt jobs scheme, where theyre looking from looking to hire people from cities because theyre more diverse rural communities. Cities because theyre more djust;e rural communities. Cities because theyre more djust think rural communities. Cities because theyre more djust think that|l communities. Cities because theyre more djust think that is ommunities. Cities because theyre more djust think that is absolutely s. I just think that is absolutely absurd. You know, i was reading in times last week that if in the times last week that if you live within a commutable distance london, birmingham distance of london, birmingham or and youre from or manchester and youre from any Socio Economic background, you are more to earn more you are more likely to earn more money your lifetime. So you money in your lifetime. So you are already at an advantaged position if you live within a commutable distance a major commutable distance of a major city country. And for bt city in this country. And for bt , the countrys telecom , the countrys Biggest Telecom provider, were going to provider, to say were going to hire from cities, from rural hire from cities, not from rural areas, absolutely appalling. It is appalling because the opportunity is for people in rural areas much, much less rural areas are much, much less as look, really as well. Look, really interesting. Thanks stirring interesting. Thanks for stirring it. Thank interesting. Thanks for stirring it. Thank you very much it up, guys. Thank you very much indeed. Lighting up, i should point out. Okay. Gb views gbnews. Com. Okay. Gb views gbnews. Com. But by the sound of it, you dont need to get in touch because plenty of people are doing that as well. Lib dem conference as we say there thats happening in bournemouth. Lets harwood there lets go to tom harwood there this morning and were to this morning and were going to go him right after this short go to him right after this short break. Dont go away its 736. Welcome back to the programme i erm liberal democrats , their erm liberal democrats, their Party Conference sort of happened over the weekend and theyre wrapping it up today. Ed theyre wrapping it up today. Ed davey, the leader, is due to give his big speech. Were now joined by the deputy leader of the liberal democrats, daisy cooper on this one. Daisy good morning to you. When do you give a big speech . Are you allowed to give a big speech or have you already done that . Already done that . I did my speech on sunday afternoon. Im looking forward to hearing eds today. Yeah. And so what was your keynote messages . What were you getting across . Well my big getting across . Well my big announcement was around the introduction of Mental Health mots. Mots. Im sure you and your viewers will know that there are physical checks available to people between the ages of 40 and 74. And these are routine physical checks that check for the signs of diabetes or heart disease. And theyre regular things that happen. But we dont have regular Mental Health checks at the same time. And so what were calling for as a party is for Mental Health mots to ensure that people are able to ensure that people are able to think about their own Mental Health, theyre able to be signposted to help that they need and to make that and to make Early Intervention available. Liberal democrats believe that physical and Mental Health should have the same kind of standing and this is just another in which we help another way in which we can help achieve cooper after achieve that. The cooper after four by election victories in recent months, lots of speculation has been fuelled about what role the liberal democrats could at the next democrats could play at the next election and rumours of a possible comeback. Possible comeback. Because of course you were decimated, werent you, after your disastrous coalition with the you certainly the conservatives, you certainly seem to fallen out with seem to have fallen out with them. Yesterday them. With ed davey yesterday saying that actually the lib dems could be the absolute kingmakers in blocking the conservatives from Holding Power almost makes out that theyre enemies. Now well, youve seen the state of the country. Everyone knows they cant see a gp, they cant see a dentist out. Food prices are high, energy bills are too expensive. People are struggling to find childcare. The state of the country under the conservative government is a real, real mess and there are lifelong conservative voters turning to the liberal democrats because simply cannot because they simply cannot believe what they are seeing from this conservative government. And why the government. And thats why the liberal democrats have ruled out doing deal whatsoever with doing any deal whatsoever with the conservatives in future. But aside from that, our major goal is really to oust as many conservative mps as possible at the next general election. The liberal democrats are in second place to the conservatives in around 80 seats around the country , and our focus is on country, and our focus is on trying to get as many electing as many liberal democrat mps as possible have ruled out a coalition with the conservatives i but you wont rule it out when it comes to labour. Would you consider then a full coalition or do you think that the lib dems would prefer more of a sort of confidence and supply kind of set up . Supply kind of set up . Well, its very easy to rule out a coalition with the conservatives or doing any deal with them because of the absolute mess that we can see in front of us and the fact that the blame for all of the mess we see in front of us really does lie at the feet of the conservative government. We hear time and again that people time and time again that people are fed that blown are fed up, that theyve blown a hole the nations finances. Hole in the nations finances. Theyve driven our nhs into the ground and that they are damaging environment. It but ground and that they are datermsg environment. It but ground and that they are daterms of environment. It but ground and that they are daterms of whatvironment. It but ground and that they are daterms of what happenst. It but ground and that they are daterms of what happens after but in terms of what happens after the election, its the next general election, its just cant even just something we cant even contemplate goal contemplate right now. Our goal is focussed exclusively on getting to 10 pm. On the polling day of the next general election. Between now and then , election. Between now and then, were going have a laser like were going to have a laser like focus on electing as many liberal democrat mps as possible after 10 pm. See how the after 10 pm. Lets see how the cards fall. Are a few divisions there are a few divisions within the we saw that within the party. We saw that around housing yesterday with what describing as what some are describing as a humiliating for the humiliating defeat for the leadership, perhaps more leadership, but perhaps more noticeable comes to the noticeable when it comes to the issue of European Union , issue of the European Union, unable probably to say what you really want to say, which is rejoining the eu, is your longer term goal, but youre having to stop short of that. So will you come people this come clean with people this morning what the lib morning and say what the lib dems when it dems really want to do when it comes to the eu . Oh oh. We have come clean. Weve been very, very clear for the last 18 months that we think that brexit has been a negative thing for the country. We have thing for the country. We have set out a roadmap as to how we want to rebuild the relationship between the uk and the eu. We think the conservative government have really broken that trust. Theyve really that trust. Theyve really damaged our trading relationship up and down the country. We know that businesses been that Small Businesses have been wrapped tape , that many wrapped in red tape, that many businesses cant get the staff that they cant that they need, they cant get the that they need and the skills that they need and our farmers, for example, have been sold down the river been really sold down the river in terms of the damaging trade deals that have happened. So weve honest about the deals that have happened. So wevthat honest about the deals that have happened. So wevthat we honest about the deals that have happened. So wevthat we have|onest about the deals that have happened. So wevthat we have got st about the deals that have happened. So wevthat we have got a about the deals that have happened. So wevthat we have got a roadmap; deals that have happened. So wevtihow e have got a roadmap; deals that have happened. So wevtihow e hwantiot a roadmap; deals that have happened. So wevtihow e hwant to a roadmap; deals that have happened. So wevtihow e hwant to rebuild1ap3 as to how we want to rebuild that relationship. Quite that relationship. But quite frankly, difference within frankly, the difference within our party is about the emphasis that give issue. I know that we give this issue. I know from doors and from from knocking on doors and from my constituents contact my constituents who who contact me funding , my constituents who who contact me funding, mental me that the funding, mental issues my constituents issues facing my constituents and people across the country right now are the cost of living crisis and the absolute scale of the disaster facing our nhs and our care services. And thats our care services. And thats why liberal democrats will why the liberal democrats will keep drum on those keep banging the drum on those two between and the two issues between now and the general election. Daisy cooper is the okay, daisy cooper is the deputy leader of the liberal democrats. Their conference winds up today with the big speech from their leader, ed davey. Daisy, thanks for your time. Thank you very much indeed. Daisy getting the sea breeze there , the nice sea air, breeze there, the nice sea air, didnt it . And i think this will be the last day of nice weather. So theyve done well to wrap up their conference today. And speaking of the lib dems, were joined by former liberal democrat baker democrat minister norman baker and presenter and the news presenter and former the daily star former editor of the daily star dawn through the dawn neesom to go through the papers again. Want start with schools we want to start with schools and don, this this headline which was grabbing attention and we dodds which was grabbing attention and we this dodds which was grabbing attention and we this labour dodds which was grabbing attention and we this labour [private about this labour to hit private schools with 20 vat in the first year of winning power and nicky and theres been a lot of response to this. This is from nicky she sent my nicky and she says, we sent my children an independent children to an Independent School we worked jobs to school and we worked two jobs to pay school and we worked two jobs to pay them to there. We pay for them to go there. We dont have expensive car. We dont have an expensive car. We dont have an expensive car. We dont on fancy holidays. That dont go on fancy holidays. That is as parents to is our choice as parents to invest in our children and spend our hard earned money on them for their future. Most parents for their future. Most parents at the school are like us and also, janet, just want to highlight this. Janet says, id like to point out that those parents paying for their childs education are, in effect, paying twice for fees and also through general taxes. So, don, youve taken the mirrors stance. No, you havent. You have the independent. Yes. Okay. Basically this is a front page, independent and page six and labour would impose 20 vat private schools in its vat on private schools in its first year of power. So coming in immediately and they estimate that this could raise £1. 7 billion a year in extra tax revenue. However even what they havent taken into account is the amount, as a viewer , nicky the amount, as a viewer, nicky has just pointed out the amount of privately educated pupils who would then have to switch to state school because they cant afford it now. So the institute for fiscal studies in july predicted that at least 40,000, possibly 17 of children currently at private school would then have to switch to the state sector, which in many cases is struggling as it is. So therell be a lot of pressure on those state schools and it wouldnt raise any it would estimate to only raise , uh, a estimate to only raise, uh, a lot, a lot less than, than labour would expect it to raise. So the figures dont add up in any case. And this is labour again playing class politics as nicky has just pointed out, many, many, many children who go to private school , they ordinary to private school, they ordinary working parents who sacrifice so much to send those children to schools where theyre going to get a good look. In an ideal world, all schools would be grey and you could send your child to the local School Without any worries. Dont in that worries. We dont live in that ideal unfortunately ideal world, unfortunately. So many, feel they many, many families feel they dont have an opportunity. My own sister worked literally around the clock to pay her around the clock to pay for her daughter to go to a private school. She then became the first girl in in our family to go to university. She would not have done that without the Brilliant Education of a private school that labours policy would. Everyones would not affect. Everyones going, oh, its eton. Its like all tories come from eton, all the tories come from eton, ignonng all the tories come from eton, ignoring the fact that i think 13 the current labour 13 of the current labour cabinet attended cabinet also attended Public School abbott, school and diane abbott, infamous. School and diane abbott, infamous. She school and diane abbott, infamous. She her own child infamous. She sent her own child to school, but this is to private school, but this is not going to affect the big schools. I want to have a go at. Its not going to affect you, eton, winston college, eton, your winston college, Winchester College and places like to take like that. Its going to take the local, independent, the small, local, independent, private schools ordinary private schools where ordinary people private schools where ordinary peop children to. Their children to. Its i think what it will also do is price out british children and make these big expensive schools only really be eligible for the russians , the eligible for the russians, the nigerians, the chinese. Fine. If nigerians, the chinese. Fine. If thats what the labour party wants to do and educate the elites from abroad. But, you elites from abroad. But, you know, is there an argument to say, actually thats a shame for british children of hard working families that they dont get access this . And do you think access to this . And do you think they deserving of a they are deserving of a charitable they are deserving of a chawell,a i mean, i think well, look, i mean, i think i agree with what dons been saying, when people think saying, that when people think about private schools, you think about private schools, you think about and you about eton and harrow and you think people have all think these people have got all their society done their leg up in society done very well. They get the best jobs. Their jobs. And its because their parents and thats a parents got money. And thats a superficial way of looking it superficial way of looking at it insofar as it goes. Thats insofar as as it goes. Thats true. But the is that the true. But the fact is that the private will be affected true. But the fact is that the prilabours will be affected true. But the fact is that the prilabours tax will be affected true. But the fact is that the prilabours tax are be affected true. But the fact is that the prilabours tax are the affected true. But the fact is that the prilabours tax are the small d by labours tax are the small ones which people have struggled to their children to put their children in and theyre ones are going theyre the ones who are going to lose out. Widespread closures, the independent sector, i think thats probably right. And the answer is, dawn said actually is to make sure that the state is so good that the state system is so good that nobody spend on nobody wants to spend money on private schools. The absolute. Nicola, thanks for view. Nicola, thanks for your view. School threat the school fees threat is the politics of envy. Yes, theres a big argument to say that parents, interesting. Parents, this is interesting. Who private education who pay for private education should receive should actually receive an income rebate. Income tax rebate. Seen a few saying ive seen a few emails saying that there should be tax break for parents pay private fees. Like to think that this its like to think that this is going to appeal to their voters im not entirely sure voters and im not entirely sure that its such a Winning Strategy as australia. You get a tax break if you use the private Health Sector andifs use the private Health Sector and its kind of incentivised through the tax, you think anyway, right . Norman lets talk about electric cars again. This is in the i and this is to do with the pricing of electric cars. And it could be on the up. Well, this is a warning from car makers that because of the brexit rules or the non appearance in the Single Market of the uk these days the tariffs which will apply are to going add up to £5,000 to the cost of add up to £5,000 to the cost of a new electric vehicle because theres a requirement under eu and uk arrangements at a certain percentage of the car has to be made in the in the eu or the uk andifs made in the in the eu or the uk and its not been going to be possible to do that in all cases. So this is an example i think of, of, of a brexit penalty and its worth just saying without reopening the whole brexit debate, that many people voted brexit people who voted for brexit actually still wanted to be in the Single Market. They wanted to control borders and other things that, but they things like that, but they didnt to leave the single didnt want to leave the Single Market. The Single Market, lets remember, mrs. Thatchers remember, was mrs. Thatchers legacy. Who legacy. She she was the one who drove that. So it was a conservative policy in a way. But we a hard but because we got a hard brexit, were now going to see these barriers coming. It these trade barriers coming. It could car could of course affect car manufacturing this country. I manufacturing in this country. I mean, would you manufacture mean, why would you manufacture a here you manufacture a car here when you manufacture it the eu have access to it in the eu and have access to a wider market . A much wider market . Announcement from a much wider market . Was announcement from a much wider market . Was it announcement from a much wider market . Was it nissan ncement from a much wider market . Was it nissan yesterday rom nissan was it nissan yesterday saying they were to going saying that they were to going press their electric press ahead with their electric cars, seen kind cars, which was seen as a kind of ignoring rishi sunak rowing back ban yes, and back on 2030 . Ban yes, and thats thing. Thats another thing. Manufacturers of course, the manufacturers of course, are for 2030 are all planning for 2030 because what theyve been because thats what theyve been told suddenly told to do. And suddenly the rugs from rugs been pulled from underneath the moving to underneath them by the moving to 2035. Not happy with 2035. So theyre not happy with all the situation which is in line the rest of europe, line with the rest of europe, though, isnt it . I mean, its 20, 35in most of europe. In many countries. Example, in not not for example, in norway, think in norway, its 2025. I think in norway. Theres a very norway. So theres a very picture. But think what picture. But i think what business wanted got this business wanted i got this when i in government, i was in government, but business what the business doesnt mind what the rules are, it wants rules are, but it wants consistency predictability rules are, but it wants consittency predictability rules are, but it wants consit hasnt predictability rules are, but it wants consit hasnt got redictability rules are, but it wants consit hasnt got that ctability rules are, but it wants consit hasnt got that nowlity rules are, but it wants consit hasnt got that now that and it hasnt got that now that i havent got consistency, mercy and this , i and predictability in this, i would buying an electric would delay buying an electric car. Dont have electric car, i dont have an electric car, but wouldnt me in the but this wouldnt put me in the mood go for one any time soon mood to go for one any time soon because i just dont believe the infrastructure , to be honest infrastructure, to be honest with you. Most people cant afford them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, ive got a fairly good job, thankfully, but, you know, we couldnt afford an electric car. Now theyre just so expensive. Theres to expensive. Theres nowhere to charge it either the point cars. Either to the point cars. Norman yes. Rashford norman yes. Marcus rashford has been his spare car has been driving his spare car because, course, his £700,000 because, of course, his £700,000 was it rolls royce. Royce got trashed a rolls royce got trashed in a car accident. Worry, hes got but dont worry, hes got a £600,000 back up. Is that right . To be fair, its 560. Silly me. Who hasnt . Oh. Oh, silly me. Who hasnt . Oh. Oh, silly me. Who hasnt . Its blue shadow. Its one its a blue shadow. Its one of his hes got. Hes got of his cars hes got. Hes got a collection of cars apparently, but rolls royce a but his, his rolls royce is a write off. He hit the or at write off. He hit the post or at least the traffic island away with his. Thats terrible. With his. With with his. Thank you. With his with his. Thank you. With his with his rolls royce. Happily, both his rolls royce. Happily, both he the other car involved he and the other car involved have had no injuries. And let me just say, i like marcus rashford. I think hes a good guy. He does a lot of good work and things which champagne and says things which champagne socialist though normally. And says things which champagne socwell, though normally. And says things which champagne socwell, hengh normally. And says things which champagne soc well, hes drivingmally. And says things which champagne socwell, hes driving around in well, hes driving around in these cars. He sort out a lot of child poverty. If he just i think i think the issue is really well, first of all, i want to criticise rashford as person. I think hes quite good, but the fact is that footballers have much money. Have paid far too much money. They are thinking they really are thinking of a collection different cars collection of different cars worth you they worth £700,000. You know, they get money in a day than get more money in a day than most people get in a year. Supply and demand. The supply and demand. Its the market, it . Market, though, isnt it . Its very, very, very yeah, its a very, very, very greedy sport. And, you know, greedy sport. And, you know, awash cash , it has to be awash with cash, it has to be said all through it. Unless youre a woman. Unless youre a woman. Obviously just saying, no, not in lewis. Its a different game. Football club, which my local Football Club, which is my local club. Different game. Club. Its a different game. Youre not going to you know, youre not going to say would pay same say that you would pay the same amount to watch hammers women as you hammers men. Would you . Can put a plug in for can i just put a plug in for lewis . Because my local team, lewis . Because my local team, lewis the first football lewis fc, was the first Football Club country to pay men club in the country to pay men and women the same. Yeah hear here. Are they broke . Hear here. Are they broke . Theyre broke. No, theyre not broke. No, theyre not broke. Well. No, theyre not broke. Thankell. No, theyre not broke. Thank you. The mens pay . Thank you. The mens pay . No, they havent. No theyve pushed up womens all pushed up the womens pay. All right, all this right, well, where all this money from can talk money comes from can we talk about rspca . Money comes from can we talk abo dawn rspca . Money comes from can we talk abo dawn . Tspca . Money comes from can we talk abodawn . Front . Money comes from can we talk abo dawn . Front of your old paper . You know, every time i come in here, i say, can we talk a nice story about fluffy bunny rabbits or something . Yeah. Semi joking. Now were going rabbits or something . Yeah. Setalkioking. Now were going rabbits or something . Yeah. Setalk azing. Now were going rabbits or something . Yeah. Setalk a story now were going rabbits or something . Yeah. Setalk a story aboutn were going rabbits or something . Yeah. Setalk a story about fluffye going to talk a story about fluffy bunny rabbits. Its not bunny rabbits. But its not a its not fun story. Its not a fun story. Its not nice, fun story. Its not a nice, fun story. Its not a nice, fun story. No, its not. Its not interrupting me. Dare you . Interrupting me. How dare you . A front page of the star. Front page of the daily star. Rampant rabbits. See what they front page of the daily star. Ram|there1bbits. See what they front page of the daily star. Ram|there were. See what they front page of the daily star. Ram|there were thee what they front page of the daily star. Ram|there were the headline. Ey did . There were the headline. Oh, so not talking oh, god. So we are not talking rabbits. We are talking guinea pigs, rabbits. We are talking guinea pigs, hamsters, rats. Not rabbits, but there are rabbits. Rabbits there. Rabbits there. I thought you said were not talking rabbits. No, no, no. Just rabbits. Its its not just rabbits. Its not rabbits. But the rspb. Not just rabbits. But the rspb. As out, its a serious as you point out, its a serious story. The rspca say are theyre as you point out, its a serious st breaking spca say are theyre as you point out, its a serious st breaking point say are theyre as you point out, its a serious st breaking point as are theyre as you point out, its a serious st breaking point as huge heyre at breaking point as huge numbers of the smaller creatures are being handed in as people cant with them. Stop cant cope with them. Stop giggling cant cope with them. Stop gig norman laughing. Hamster norman was laughing. Hamster going around and metropol. Metaphor the thats a metaphor for the government. Hamster government. I think that hamster going its a metaphor going around, its a metaphor for life and lots of people for my life and lots of people because entry level because they theyre entry level pets arent they . Pets for children, arent they . You buy, know, it teaches you buy, you know, it teaches children so much about caring for me for animals. Stop looking at me like for smaller like that. Caring for smaller pets and sort of, you know, and also the life cycle because they dont very it also dont live very long. So it also teaches children about teaches younger children about you buy a pet to teach them about death. Come on now. Come on now. Really, thats such a newspaper hack. Parent goes, newspaper hack. No parent goes, im teach my about im going to teach my kid about death. Go get hamster. No, no, no. But that is an accepted way that children do because they do learn. Yeah. Because they do learn. The]. Because they do learn. The first thing they lose that really love, like that they really love, like their goldfish. 5 their goldfish. Goldfish . We held a funeral for goldfish in the garden for my goldfish in the garden when child. So youre when i was a child. So youre right. Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that to buy but do you know that to buy a goldfish now, you to jump goldfish now, you have to jump through had to take water through all we had to take water that tested the pet shop that was tested to the pet shop before theyd let us buy a seriously, seriously, seriously was right . We had to was a ph level, right . We had to take pet shop to prove take it to the pet shop to prove that the environment the that the environment for the goldfish about to invest goldfish we were about to invest in was right. Okay and it died a week later. But a goldfish. We won from fair when i was a won from the fair when i was a kid and we brought it in a kid and we brought it home in a plastic stuck it in plastic bag and stuck it in a bowl. Lasted ten years. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And because people are handing a big handing these, i made a big mistake goldfish with mistake with goldfish once with my kids. I was giving off to them about how they wanted these goldfish of them had goldfish and none of them had ever as ever changed the water. And as i was lecturing them, i turned on the water up the bowl the water to fill up the bowl with the fish in it in their little and then i realised little bowl. And then i realised i had hot water around. Oh i had the hot water around. Oh no. So the fish just went. They just went in rspca here. They went a u shaped, they just went on a u shaped, they just went, it and that was went, that was it and that was it. How did you explain to the children, the goldfish . It a big mistake. It was a big mistake. It was a big mistake. Well be about why victoria be talking about why Victoria Beckham happy but beckham should look happy but doesnt and doesnt next time round. And dawn will be back in 40 dawn norman will be back in 40 minutes time. You. And for now, were thank you. And for now, were going on the weather. Going to check on the weather. Aidan mcgivern looks heres Aidan Mcgivern looks like things are heating up. Bob east boilers, proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Further rain or showers today, but it wont be raining all day everywhere. There will be some sunshine in between, although it will stay blustery before storm agnes tomorrow to bring agnes arrives tomorrow to bring a widespread swathe of disruptive winds. We start off tuesday with showers moving through southern and Central England, clearing to the east. Another spell of wet weather moves into northern and moves into Northern Ireland and then during the morning moves into Northern Ireland and therearly during the morning moves into Northern Ireland and therearly afternoon. | the morning moves into Northern Ireland and therearly afternoon. That morning moves into Northern Ireland and therearly afternoon. That clears|g and early afternoon. That clears to showers. Some of these showers could heavy, showers could be heavy, especially western scotland and Northern Ireland, but therell be between. And be some sunshine in between. And in will feel in the south east it will feel warm sunshine whilst the warm in the sunshine whilst the strong in the north and strong wind in the north and northwest coastal is northwest coastal gales is a possibility. Will keep it feeling on the cool side. Then feeling on the cool side. Then the spells of rain and showers become more confined to the north and northwest of the uk overnight. And even in the elsewhere and even in the northwest. Those showers will generally ease by dawn. So for most , actually, its a generally ease by dawn. So for most, actually, its a bright start to wednesday and its a relatively calm start compared with whats to come later in the day. So plenty of Early Morning sunshine bit of a chill in sunshine in a bit of a chill in the air the north with the air in the north with temperatures in the single temperatures in the mid single figures, of the figures, but nothing out of the ordinary. Cloud builds in ordinary. The cloud builds in the south and then well, by later the morning, the first later in the morning, the first sign storm agnes with the sign of storm agnes with the wind up in the west and wind picking up in the west and spells rain pushing into spells of rain pushing into northern southwest and Northern Ireland, southwest and scotland, sea coastal scotland, irish sea coastal areas. And that rain turning heavy by the end of the day. But the widespread gales that develop through western coasts could disruption. Looks could cause disruption. Looks like things are heating up by next boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on gb news big Netflix Documentary coming out today on jill dando. Lots of you getting in touch with your memories. Rob hopkins says jill was such a beautiful person both inside and out. I remember the day this happened etched on my mind , one of the etched on my mind, one of the saddest days life. We all saddest days of my life. We all felt we knew her as she had touched all of our lives and dave says, i love jill. Shes now the voice of my satnav. You now the voice of my satnav. You can use her voice on satnav , can use her voice on satnav, which i thought was interesting i its a bit weird. Its a bit weird. Its a bit weird. I think its just because she was so lovely. Dont see the goodin was so lovely. Dont see the good in that one. I will think. David to all my memories of jill is that she was a lovely lady. I watched her on the news. It was a great shock when she was killed. Terrible, terrible vat on schools. Gosh, thats got us going today. Gosh, thats got us going today. Wont it be great to see today. Wont it be great to see the raising of this money . Well be so interesting to see how theyre going to waste money like on other other projects like on other other projects like hs2, says paul sue, reflecting a lot of you as a single mum, i worked full time nights, went cleaning during the day to pay for my childrens education. They both went to university , which wouldnt have university, which wouldnt have happened i 8 00 is the time. Its a tuesday, 26th of september. And youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with Eamonn Holmes and isabel webster. Heres whats leading the news this morning. Absurd and unsustainable. Thats how the home secretary will describe International Law designed to protect Asylum Seekers and refugees. Shes in washington , refugees. Shes in washington, dc, where shell set out the for case a Major Overhaul of the Un Refugee Convention , more than 70 Refugee Convention, more than 70 years since it was signed. And years since it was signed. And yes, the home secretary is expected to say later today that the 1951 convention on refugees st giles the Un Convention is no longer fit for purpose. No longer fit for purpose. But will she be able to find any friends, any International Allies to help her in this case . Ill have the latest. Ill have the latest. Tom harwood gary harwood there from the lib dem conference in bournemouth, Scotland Yard has begun an investigation into the sexual offence claims against Russell Brand. It comes as the comedian denies all allegations and is accused the government of a conspira cac lisa hartle at Scotland Yard and shell have the latest. Yes as you say, the latest. Yes as you say, ross, Scotland Yard have launched an investigation historical claims that he was involved in Sexual Offences. He says hes the victim of a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory. The metropolitan police says it does not need military support after scores of armed police stand down from their dufiesin police stand down from their duties in protest over a colleague being charged with murder. Earlier on breakfast, policing minister told us that a government review will make sure armed officers are better protected legally within reason. We will make sure through this review that the police are able to do their job protecting the public, looking after each and every one of us without being at risk of unreasonable legal jeopardy over hs2 continues. Continues. Senior conservatives are warning against axing the rail project despite spiralling costs and endless delays. Well be debating is it time to derail hs2 . Debating is it time to derail hsz . And debating is it time to derail hs2 . And as always, paul coyte will be here with the latest from the world of sport. Yeah, were getting ready for the ryder cup, which is just around the corner. Jermaine jenas has apologised to the referee after the arsenal spurs game at the weekend. And do you remember 15 old skater remember the 15 year old skater kamila Kamila Valieva , huh . Kamila Kamila Valieva, huh . It was jemmy and genus that apologised. Well, ill tell you, youll have to hang on. Has he got involved in this . Has he got involved in this . He has got involved. He has got involved. Oh, right. Oh, right. Okay. Its not. This is not theice okay. Its not. This is not the ice skating rail. This is something different. This is after spurs arsenal game. After the spurs arsenal game. But the russian skater. So its 19 after won 19 months on after she won the gold she was gold medal and then she was tested positive for a banned substance. This court of arbitration sport , they arbitration for sport, they finally today to discuss finally meet today to discuss what happens today. And as always, we want to hear from you throughout the course of the morning. Thanks for your views so far on private schools. Jill dando, whatever it is, coming. Gb views is, keep them coming. Gb views at or you can at gb views. Com or you can tweet us at. Gb news. Tweet us at. Gb news. And were previewing a big speech from the home secretary later today in washington calling on the Un Refugee Convention to be ripped up and rewritten for modern times. Rewritten for modern times. Last year, Suella Braverman called for the uk to leave the European Convention on human rights. Today shes got the un in her sights. She says that the sustainability of current refugee policies do not work. Refugee policies do not work. Her view is that we are living in a different time and that a Major Overhaul is due. Right. So heres what she is going to say. The status quo , going to say. The status quo, where people are able to travel through multiple safe countries and even reside in safe countries for years while they pick their preferred destination is absurd and unsustainable. Well, earlier we spoke to the chair of the labour party, Anneliese Dodds, who said its not asylum laws, which are the problem. International conventions are not the reason why the conservative government is failing , in particular to take failing, in particular to take action against the International People smuggling gangs. They are not the reason why the conservative government has such chaos in the asylum system. Theyre not the reason why british taxpayers are paying £8 million a day on accommodation. Im a im afraid the responsibility for all of this lies squarely with the conservative government. Conservative government. Well, lets speak to our deputy Political Editor, tom harwood. Good morning to you, harwood. Good morning to you, tom. Look, labour arent having it. They say that, you know, this is just distracting from the chaos on our own doorstep. The chaos on our own doorstep. Yes. And the labour party say that really the home secretary should be focussed on managing the asylum system we have rather than changing the International Framework that surrounds it. However, the home secretary is expected to hit back at that sort of analysis by pointing to the fact of the Mass Movement that were seeing across the world today. The thousands of people who are moving across the mediterranean and indeed further afield to the argument of the home secretary is that were in a very different world today than the 1 in 1951. Immediately after the Second World War, the context in which that convention was drawn up, of course, which the United Kingdom was a founding signatory to. The home secretary will point to analysis by the centre for policy studies, which shows that under the current terms of the treaty , 780 Million People could move from their home countries to another country. Under that another country. Under that treaty and the home secretary will point to the fact that many of those may be more minded to be economic migrants rather than people genuinely fleeing in fear. And there needs to be some sort of mechanism to ensure that countries cant be overwhelmed by those sort of obligations. The home secretary, however, will need to win friends in her bids to get this Sweeping Change or to promote these Sweeping Changes to this 70 year old convention. The United Kingdom cant change a treaty like this by itself. Tom, thank you cant change a treaty like this by itself. Tom, thank you. By itself. Tom, thank you. Whats that picture there of a stormy tree for . I dont know. Well, anyway, the metropolitan police has said they received a number of non recent allegations of Sexual Offences against Russell Brand. Brand continues to deny all of this, whilst the met has encouraged anyone who believes they may have been a victim of a sexual offence, no matter how long ago to come forward. He also posted a video onto his rumble feed last night, claiming there is a conspiracy against him. Him. Obviously its been an extraordinary and distressing week and i thank you very much for your support and for questioning the information that youve been presented with by now. Youre probably aware that the British Government have asked big tech platform firms to censor our online content and that some Online Platforms have complied with that request. What complied with that request. What you may not know is that this happensin you may not know is that this happens in the context of the Online Safety bill which is a piece of uk legislation that grants sweeping surveillance and censorship powers. And its a law that has already been passed i well, joining us now, our london reporter lisa hartle outside new Scotland Yard for this one. What have you got to tell us, lisa . Well, so those allegations is that the met are investigating. That the met are investigating. They say, well, theyre looking into that in london and other parts of the uk. Theyre calling them non recent claims. Parts of the uk. Theyre calling them non recent claims. And them non recent claims. And obviously, this comes after the investigation by the times , the investigation by the times, the sunday times and the channel 4 Dispatches Programme , where four Dispatches Programme, where four women also made claims in that that they also suffered Sexual Offences from Russell Brand, who are Russell Brand obviously denies all of the allegations against him. Police say there have been no arrests and enquiries are continuing. Now Russell Brand, that video that he posted on that social media platform, he was criticised an Mps Committee that were calling on social media platforms to demonetise him. Weve already demonetise him. Weve already seen this happen with youtube where hes got 6 million subscribers. He called it a by passing of judicial process and suggested there was a conspiracy to silence him. Detective superintendent andy furphy from the mets central Specialist Crime command said we continue to encourage anyone who believes they may have been a victim of a sexual offence no matter how long ago it was to contact us. We understand it can feel like a difficult step to take and i want to reassure that we have a team of specialist officers available to advise and support. Russell brand denies all the allegations. Allegations. Jones thanks, lisa. Jones thanks, lisa. In other news, the home secretary has launched a review into armed policing as large numbers of Firearms Officers handedin numbers of Firearms Officers handed in their weapons in protest after one of their officers was charged with the murder of 24 year old chris kaba. Theyve now returned to duty. Theo chikomba has more on this. This. In a worsening crisis around armed policing, we understand that a large number of Counter Terrorism Firearms Officers have taken time to consider their position. Consider their position. However, on monday afternoon , we however, on monday afternoon, we learned that enough Firearms Officers have returned to armed dufies officers have returned to armed duties for the metropolitan police to be able to meet its Counter Terrorism response abilities without military help. The crisis engulfing the met follows the Crown Prosecution Service charging met Police Officer last week for the murder officer last week for the murder of chris kaba, an unarmed black man in september 2022. The home secretary, Suella Braverman has stepped into the rabaa offering her support to the metropolitan armed forces, and shes saying shes launching a review into this situation. This situation. Ive lived here more than five years now, and i mean, compared back from where im from, i mean, its a bad example, but i feel i feel fine here. And i you know, i talk about this with a lot of friends all the time, both female and male friends. And i would say that london is probably one of the least from a strictly the at least from a strictly anecdotal perspective, would anecdotal perspective, i would say safest, if say its probably the safest, if not the safest big cities not one of the safest big cities ive ever to, and ive ive ever been to, and ive travelled fair bit. Travelled a fair bit. Feel here. I do feel safe here. I do feel safe here. Yes, we havent been for a long time. So today is the first time for a few years. But yeah, i felt safe here today. The role of the police in society, vat, you know, just the role of the police in societhere t, you know, just the role of the police in societhere for u know, just the role of the police in societhere for a know, just the role of the police in societhere for a fewiw, just the role of the police in societhere for a few hourst the role of the police in societhere for a few hours and being here for a few hours and turning the news reminds me turning on the news reminds me that is going on that that tension is going on both the United States as both in the United States as well as here. Okay with the time at 8 11, lets take a look now at some of the other stories coming into the newsroom for you this morning. Following a routine inspection from the tuc. Its been released today that Newcastle Hospital trust failed to send out 24,000 letters from senior doctors to patients and their gps because of a Computer System error. The trust says it will deal with a 6000 letter backlog from last year without delay, with more than 1200 of these letters relating to medicine and Emergency Care researchers have reported that the risks of developing long covid have been exaggerated because of flawed research. This comes as a recent review found that 54 of studies off long covid included Lab Confirmed infections, which could lead to sampling bias. And theres been an outbreak of covid within the air Traffic Controller team at gatwick, forcing the airport to restrict flights for the rest of the week. Well be talking about this with simon calder, the independent travel expert , shortly. Okay. Right. Aidan mcgivern. Okay. Right. Aidan mcgivern. Lets go to him for the weather. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers. Proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Further rain or showers today , but it rain or showers today, but it wont be raining all day. Everywhere there will some everywhere there will be some sunshine between , although sunshine in between, although it will blustery before storm will stay blustery before storm agnes arrives tomorrow to bring a widespread swathe of disruptive winds. We start off disruptive winds. We start off tuesday with showers moving through southern and Central England , clearing to the east. England, clearing to the east. Another spell of wet weather moves into Northern Ireland and then during the morning moves into Northern Ireland and therearly during the morning moves into Northern Ireland and therearly afternoon. | the morning moves into Northern Ireland and therearly afternoon. That morning moves into Northern Ireland and therearly afternoon. That clears|g and early afternoon. That clears to showers. Some of these to showers. Some of these showers could be heavy, especially and especially western scotland and northern therell Northern Ireland, but therell be between. And be some sunshine in between. And in it will feel in the southeast it will feel warm the sunshine whilst the warm in the sunshine whilst the strong wind in the north and northwest is a northwest coastal gales is a possibility will keep it feeling on cool side. The on the cool side. Then the spells of rain and showers become more confined to the north and northwest of the uk. Overnight clear spells elsewhere and in the northwest. Those and even in the northwest. Those showers will generally ease by dawn. So for most, actually, its bright to wednesday its a bright start to wednesday andifs its a bright start to wednesday and its a relatively calm start compared with whats to come later in the day. So plenty of Early Morning sunshine, a bit of a chill in the air in the north with temperatures in the mid single figures, but nothing out the the builds the ordinary. The cloud builds in south then well by in the south and then well by later the morning, first later in the morning, the first sign storm agnes with the sign of storm agnes with the wind picking up in west and wind picking up in the west and spells of rain pushing into Northern Ireland, southwestern scotland, sea coastal scotland, irish sea coastal areas, and that rain turning heavy by the end of the day. But the widespread gales that develop coasts develop through western coasts could cause disruption that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers proud sponsors of weather on gb news. Okay, were going to talk now a bit more about travel issues, why people arent travelling anywhere. Gatwick, top of the list at the moment. Weve got simon calder to give his view on whats happened. We hear there has been a covid outbreak , which has been a covid outbreak, which is and this is specifically amongst air Traffic Controllers. Simon, which is just basically wrecked all their plans for the rest of this week . Well, not quite wrecked all the plans, but let me tell you exactly what the situation is. Exactly what the situation is. You were talking earlier about covid. Well 30 of the air Traffic Controllers who are qualified to work in the tower at gatwick and these are incredibly professional men and women. It takes a very long time to train them up. 30 of them are off sick and some of them indeed have covid, which appears to have been been a problem which has reappeared to haunt the traveller , because as the traveller, because as a result of that , over the last result of that, over the last couple of days , we have seen couple of days, we have seen dozens of flights cancelled, thousands of people will be waking up this morning where they didnt intend to be. And thats because if you havent got enough control staff in your tower, then you have to reduce the flow rate. The number of arrivals and departures and if its the busiest runway in the world, which gatwick is , or you world, which gatwick is, or you have a serious problem and pretty quickly , airlines in pretty quickly, airlines in particular easyjet , are just particular easyjet, are just cancelling flights all over the place. Why would it be specifically easyjet . How are they worse affected than anyone else . Theyve got by far the highest number of flights at gatwick and its one of these things where if youre another airline maybe flying in from spain or france, thats only to going affect a little bit of your schedule. But easyjets your schedule. But easyjets main base is gatwick. Your schedule. But easyjets main base is gatwick. And so main base is gatwick. And so anything wrong anything that goes wrong at gatwick affects more gatwick affects it more significant anyway, Gatwick Airport is now trying to get ahead of the problem by saying right to nats, the air Traffic Control provider order. How many flights can you honestly promise you can run for the rest of this week till sunday . And theyve said 800 and they had a look and theyve seen right okay choose d so today weve got 800. Weve got 800 on saturday as well. But the other dates are over that. And so therefore we are going to instruct the airlines to cancel flights to bring that down to just 800. In total, 184 flights will be cancelled. Will be cancelled. Gosh, and lots of tensions at Gatwick Airport between nats. The national air Traffic Controllers and the chief executive, steve wingate, whos quoted as here, saying they only took over the running of air Traffic Control in october last year and we are deeply frustrated with the situation. Frustrated with the situation. Is it reputational damage, do you think, for the airport . Do you think, for the airport . Do you that passengers will you think that passengers will be know what, be thinking, you know what, i cant im cant rely on gatwick. If im really important question because of course, for an awful lot of us in the south of england, Gatwick Airport is the kind of natural holiday airport. If you start thinking, and if you start thinking, well, im not sure ive seen all these cancellations. Yes it could be a problem. And thats why gatwick is really alarmed about this. I mean , they knew about this. I mean, they knew that that were staffing difficulties and lots of places across europe have had this problem basically because during covid, they were not training air Traffic Control was partly because they didnt have any money, because nobody knew if wed be flying normally again, and partly because it was very, you know, they were trying to keep people working to keep number of people working to a minimum. So lots of people have problem, but gatwick have this problem, but gatwick degree sickness is now so degree of sickness is now so high that the airport has come out and said this is terrible. And the airline fans are furious because not only do they have to upset their passengers and say, sorry, youre not flying, although actually theyll probably be moved to a adjacent flights , they then if people flights, they then if people cancel , they have to hand back cancel, they have to hand back the money. If people need to be put up in hotels, thats the bill for the airline. That bill then as well. So what sort of notice assignment would you be given if your flight is cancelled out of gatwick like the first cancellations going in tomorrow . Its going to about 30 its going to be about 30 flights. Thats going to affect about four a half, 5000 about four and a half, 5000 people. Those people. Okay. Those cancellations will probably be going out this afternoon. And i think the airlines are going to be working through in date order. Going be order. Theyre going to be looking have got other looking at have we got other flights available . Youre flights available . If youre talking gatwick, talking about gatwick, amsterdam or to belfast, talking about gatwick, amsterdam or can to belfast, talking about gatwick, amsterdam or can probably to belfast, talking about gatwick, amsterdam or can probably squeezeist, talking about gatwick, amsterdam or can probably squeeze more you can probably squeeze more people on. Theyll also be looking at the flights where theyve sold so many tickets. Theres so much money that they really want to have really dont want to have to cancel and people back cancel it and hand people back their money. So its a very complicated jigsaw that theyre trying to sort out. And its only been a few weeks since the last disaster, which was last nats disaster, which was when they a misfiled flight when they had a misfiled Flight Report which caused this huge glitch. And nightmare for passengers and airlines as well. Yeah, 28th of august, suddenly the air Traffic Control system and its backup both failed simultaneously, effectively , simultaneously, effectively, 2000 flights cancelled , about 2000 flights cancelled, about 300,000 people who were left out of position as a result of that. Simon could we talk generally about the hs2 situation and how you would see this as a travel editor and a lot of indecision about this . We dont know, but it looks likely that the northern leg will be cancelled. Northern leg will be cancelled. What a mess. Oh, absolutely is. Hs2 has been a program which has been absolutely botched from the start. Its not about getting from birmingham to london 20 minutes quicker. Its about adding proper capacity for the 21st century because the victoria did a fantastic job giving us a railway network, but it was built for the 19th century, not the 21st. And when you say adding capacity, what do you mean by that . Right . So at the moment, the east coast main line, the west coast main line, the main north south corridor are full, corridor is they are full, effective , and youre trying to effective, and youre trying to squeeze in freight trains, local Commuter Services , regional Commuter Services, Regional Express and high speed intercity expresses all onto the same lines. If you take the high speed Intercity Services and just put them on their own special Network Going to birmingham , to leeds and to birmingham, to leeds and to manchester there, then suddenly you free up capacity for the whole system. But youve got to build the whole thing. And if you end up with this odd little line from birmingham to a patch of waste ground seven miles west of waste ground seven miles west of Central London, you get 80 of Central London, you get 80 of the costs and only of the value. So your view is whatever the cost, we should plough ahead . Unfortunately, yes. I agree unfortunately, yes. I agree with what the Labour Party Said a but what it didnt a week ago, but what it didnt say two days which is were say two days ago, which is were going build the thing in going to build the thing in full, absolutely crazy just full, its absolutely crazy just to have a single link and not even , you know, we had a viewer even, you know, we had a viewer this morning who got in touch. And i think theres some truth in this. And basically he said, you know what . If they had have started building this in manchester southwards , it manchester southwards, it wouldnt been cancelled. Wouldnt have been cancelled. Its manchester in the north becomes an optional extra when you do it the other way around. Oh and would have oh sure. And it would have done great thing, which is done the great thing, which is so important and again it keeps being connections being missed out connections between sheffield between leeds and sheffield and birmingham by train are absolutely lousy. Build a high speed you would transform speed line. You would transform everything and i mean, when you look at were crying out. I mean i totally agree with you. I mean im in favour of it being because i think being built because i do think this victorian infrastructure, i mean way we want to mean, is this the way we want to be a modern country going ahead and look at liverpool on the and you look at liverpool on the east sorry, the west east coast, sorry, the west coast you look at somewhere coast and you look at somewhere like or whatever on the like leeds or whatever on the east coast its appalling east coast and its appalling that theyre not connected. Really. Yeah. Oldest Railway Passenger the oldest Railway Passenger railway the world by some railway in the world by some counts, liverpool to manchester and they havent even got electricity on its scandalous. Scandalous. Scandalous. Scandalous. Simon price youre talking to you. Thanks for putting us in the picture there. Thank you very the picture there. Thank you vehwell, were going to stay well, were going to stay with this theme. Coming up after the break, well debate whether or government should write to toby or not to be. Weve got peter barnes in the studio. Peter is from wigan. And you think what peter . I think its about time that we scrapped hs2. I think its been a catastrophic failure from the start. Its at what point do we have to cut our losses . If we look the initial estimate, it look at the initial estimate, it was worth 45 billion at the beginning. The is now. Beginning. Now the 2019 is now. It estimated to be 100 it was estimated to be 100 billion. Who did billion. And the guy who did that report last night that report just last night argued it might be even 180 argued that it might be even 180 billion. To put that into billion. And to put that into context, same amount context, thats the same amount of spend on of money that we spend on primary secondary education and our combined. Our defence budget combined. Why do you care . Do you care . Long as why do you care . As long as its why do you care . Its built . Why do you care . Because point do we because at what point do we have because we cant just have to . Because we cant just keep throwing money at a wicked project. Youre from wigan. You need this train. This the thing. Every time this is the thing. Every time i back north, people i go back up north, people always about politics and always ask me about politics and they always ask me you they always ask me about, you know, all kind of stuff. Know, all this kind of stuff. Not the five not one person. In the five years lived down here has years ive lived down here has asked about hs2. One asked me about hs2. Not one person up there, even probably realises that wigan is going to be line. There are much be on the line. There are much better projects this money better projects that this money could into could have been funnelled into to actually would have to actually that would have helped right now. To actually that would have helsoi right now. To actually that would have helso what right now. To actually that would have helso what i right now. To actually that would have helso what i dontt now. To actually that would have helso what i dont understand, so what i dont understand, i see of the building going see a lot of the building going on of england and on in the south of england and when i go out into watford or beyond or and i see all this, is there any building happening north anything north in manchester . Anything any broken any ground being broken there, there little of there are small little plots of it, but hardly anything of any substance. And this one of the and this is one of the biggest problems that were having. Theres the having. You know, theres the hs2 kind of pr team. You know, theyre saying little theyre saying all these little northern companies are getting involved in all this project. But reality, theres no real but in reality, theres no real work being because work being being done because one major of hs2 work being being done because orthe major of hs2 work being being done because orthe planningir of hs2 work being being done because orthe Planning System of hs2 work being being done because orthe Planning System is of hs2 is the Planning System is absolutely thats people arent asking it because they asking you about it because they cant anything deal cant see anything to deal with it. It. Include ellie it. Include Ellie Phillips it. This, include Ellie Phillips it. This, whos de Ellie Phillips it. This, whos from lie phillips it. This, whos from liverpool. ; in this, whos from liverpool. Weve got two northerners and ellie, really think this ellie, you really think this just shows how london just shows how sort of london centric rishi sunak is being . Definitely at the moment. If it stops at birmingham like planned to, thats like its planned to, thats just train. Well, just a commuter train. Well, this meant be of this is all meant to be part of a levelling project and it is a levelling up project and it is costing a lot of money. But thats money. And thats taxpayers money. And were about the were forgetting about the taxpayers up north at the moment. Thats who its moment. And thats who its meant for. Its meant moment. And thats who its mibet for. Its meant moment. And thats who its mibe creating h its meant moment. And thats who its mibe creating up its meant moment. And thats who its mibe creating up to its meant moment. And thats who its mibe creating up to 90,000 nt to be creating up to 90,000 jobs. Are those jobs not needed up north . And the long term up north . And its the long term impact. I think its like, impact. So i think its like, yes, initial outlay is yes, the initial outlay is enormous, but we know the government is happy to waste money sorts other money on all sorts of other things. This isnt a waste of money. Its going to cost money. Yes, its going to cost more should, but thats more than it should, but thats inflation again, you could. Inflation down again, you could. I remember when they said this millennium this about the millennium dome and every and they said every major infrastructural did infrastructural a tunnel. Did you know that the m25 five. Yeah, thats it. Thats it. This one. Know so one. Yeah. And you know so theres ways for theres always other ways for them to waste this money. I dont sit and look, i dont go with that its with peters argument that its such of money, therefore such a waste of money, therefore it would all money it would kill all this money back itll be put to good back and itll be put to good use. No, itll be poured down the everything else. The drain like everything else. Stops where it i think if it stops where it is now, then is a waste is now, then it is a waste because its not connecting the whole of the country. Its not linking together. The linking everyone together. The difference it would difference for me that it would change, you could up to change, that you could get up to the in an hour rather than the north in an hour rather than over also the over two hours. And also the whats at moment whats available at the moment is completely subpar, would is just completely subpar, would change a lot. And also a lot of the costs be offset by the the costs could be offset by the fact that it can take freight as well. Husbands freight well. So my husbands a Freight Forwarder fact that you forwarder and the fact that you can trains reduces can put that on trains reduces the emissions from that the Carbon Emissions from that and can be offset for and the costs can be offset for travellers. So should bring travellers. So it should bring the down of prices of the cost down of prices of tickets, but actually still pay back money in the frees back the money in the long frees up the east coast up capacity on the east coast line massively. Travel line massively. If you travel up north, manage to pay north, if you can manage to pay for a ticket because theyre so astronomically expensive and often sit on the often you have to sit on the floor, you to half floor, you need to stand half the time. Theres definitely the time. So theres definitely a there. And hopefully a demand there. And hopefully this mean that it frees up this would mean that it frees up for people also, for other people and also, i just the north just think why should the north be cut off . It was if be completely cut off . It was if it was the other way round it was built the other way round and it was, you know, from liverpool to birmingham and then london cut everyone london was cut out, everyone would would would be there, would be outraged, about outraged, would be uproar about it. Can i ask you peter, can i ask you from a political point view, i mean, political point of view, i mean, i involved what goes i im not involved in what goes on in downing street, but my suspicion is this decision has been made. There shelving it there, people do not there, saying that people do not realise how the finances realise how bad the finances are, but theyre too afraid to mention the tory mention it before the tory conference next week. And hes going make chancellor going to make his chancellor announce it in the autumn statement. That it any statement. Does that make it any more to swallow . More palatable to swallow . Because also because i believe johnson also wanted soon wanted to get rid of it as soon as he came in. And then he got talked down same angry talked down by the same angry mob. Just asking really, mob. So im just asking really, do you think that this going mob. So im just asking really, do actuallyik that this going mob. So im just asking really, doactually happenhis going to actually happen or. Think you are well, i, i think you are right. I do this decision right. I do think this decision is already been made. Is definitely already been made. And because of the tory and i think because of the tory conference, i think its being withheld bit. But if we conference, i think its being withhforget bit. But if we conference, i think its being withhforget that bit. But if we conference, i think its being withhforget that dominic if we dont forget that Dominic Cummings Johnson Cummings and Boris Johnson wanted review wanted to actually have a review of that set of hs2, and i remember that set off same mobs on sides off the same mobs on both sides off the same mobs on both sides of argument. I do think of this argument. But i do think politically is of do politically this is kind of i do think this is i dont know whether its actually whether theyre or theyre going to shelve it or whether theyve like whether theyve just like like we that much we say, theyve spent that much money they dont have a money on it. They dont have a choice but to continue with it. Do think its an do you think its an embarrassment . Its embarrassment . Do you think its a as a badge of shame that as a nafion a badge of shame that as a nation have this terrible nation we have this terrible rail worse than you do . Rail system worse than you do . Its awful. Its absolutely awful. My sister in france to sister now lives in france to get so get around that country is so much much cheaper, much easier, so much cheaper, so much easier, so much cheaper, so much think much more effective. And i think for us, for me as a northerner, i now live down south. I think connecting the north and the south important. Theres south is so important. Theres a huge southern divide huge northern southern divide for we were for and example, we were chatting and i was chatting outside and i was saying just saying that its not for just commuters. To say, oh, commuters. Its not to say, oh, well, could in well, you could live in liverpool work london. Liverpool and work in london. Its when want to do its to say when i want to do a weekend away with my friends, we 90, weekend away with my friends, we go, oh, an hour outside london. Because, makes because, you know, it makes it worthwhile. Do worthwhile. Well, if you can do that youre that up north, then youre encouraging people to go up there there. And that there and visit there. And that only strengthens the infrastructure up there. Northerner. I see myself as a northerner. I lived in manchester seven i lived in manchester for seven years. Lives there now. Years. My son lives there now. My heart and soul and life of manchester ive Manchester United. Traitor ive never seen myself as a southerner. Identified southerner. I never identified london you london as somewhere where you have to work. Its not where you want live, but the idea that want to live, but the idea that this divide or the subway, its a bit backward up north. I mean, you only to and you can you only have to go and you can see suburbs manchester in see the suburbs of manchester in cheshire of places cheshire and all sorts of places. But this whole business of liverpool , poole and newcastle liverpool, poole and newcastle and leeds and whatever in the east, not being connected properly the way it should be, it is a national disgrace. It is , it really is. And i also dont think, sorry that the north should have to choose between the Northern Powerhouse rail and hs2. Like why should it be completely disconnected . I think i have to admit that i do agree with. But the one thing you kind of have to remember is when look have to remember is when we look at actual statistics of who at the actual statistics of who kind use this service kind of would use this service and public transport, and who uses public transport, particularly most people dont and who uses public transport, partitilarly most people dont and who uses public transport, partit in rly most people dont and who uses public transport, partit in the most people dont and who uses public transport, partit in the wayt people dont and who uses public transport, partit in the wayt peowe dont and who uses public transport, partit in the wayt peowe do nt and who uses public transport, partit in the wayt peowe do in use it in the way that we do in london. When the way people london. When the way that people talk a very london talk about it is a very london centric the main mode of centric way. The main mode of transport Greater Manchester transport in Greater Manchester is but thats people transport in Greater Manchester is that but thats people transport in Greater Manchester is that but thin s people transport in Greater Manchester is that but thin the people transport in Greater Manchester is that but thin the egg, zople transport in Greater Manchester is that but thin the egg, you; is that chicken in the egg, you know, build it they will know, you build it and they will come. People to come. What people go on to argue but the case. The but thats not the case. The most common way that people because the greater because of the greater distances that do that people travel than you do in london. And its just one of those that whilst those things that whilst everybody keeps thinking the future for future is trains for connectivity, actually connectivity, its actually roads. And its one of those things actually you things that we actually you would build roads peter would build more roads peter would build more roads peter would definitely. Id would you. Oh definitely. Id have know amount have put, you know the amount of money burnhams wasted money that Andy Burnhams wasted on network nonsense. Id on this network nonsense. Id have flooded of have flooded it into kind of building proper roads, resurfacing all the roads. I tell hed walk tell you right now, hed walk the three mayoral elections the next three mayoral elections over of the over it. It is one of the biggest issues is actually the quality the traffic biggest issues is actually the qua|the the traffic biggest issues is actually the qua|the congestion. The traffic biggest issues is actually the qua|the congestion. And traffic biggest issues is actually the qua|the congestion. And you ic and the congestion. And you could we had could argue, oh, if we had better trains get the train, better trains and get the train, most would choose not to most people would choose not to take most people would choose not to takii dont agree with that. I dont agree with that. I think long term and since covid and beyond, attitudes have change. You get change. And actually you can get you productive on trains, change. And actually you can get you can productive on trains, change. And actually you can get you can |stuff ctive on trains, change. And actually you can get you can |stuff done. N trains, change. And actually you can get you can |stuff done. Youtins, you can get stuff done. You cant that when youre cant do that when youre driving. Actually quality driving. So actually the quality of better. And of time spent is better. And also moment, for example, also at the moment, for example, its from to its cheaper to fly from to london than is to London Liverpool than it is to get. Thats not good for get a train. Thats not good for you. Going to say if anyone im going to say if anyone and when driver is cheaper to drive from london to liverpool, then get a train at the moment. So that needs to completely be overhauled hopefully be overhauled and hopefully hs2 will the will help do that to bring the cost down. And so you would plant head and very definitely stop it. Youd stop it. Okay thank you, guys. Really appreciate it i yeah, that is our contributors views and here are some of your views on email and on video. Lets take a look. On video. Lets take a look. All this hs2, lets scrap it. Should we keep it going . Of course we should keep it going. Where i live, theres disruption. Theyre down disruption. Theyre cutting down the. Theyre cutting down the woods. Theyre cutting down all of things, digging all sorts of things, digging tunnels. Theyre repossessing houses. Thats called pro gress. We have to do these things. Were Great Britain. Go all the way to scotland. For me, absolute key hs2, like the majority of rail projects in the uk, aims to satisfy the London Business community and its an insatiable appetite for staff. Insatiable appetite for staff. The other problem is the cost of rail travel. Unless its heavily subsidised, means its not a cost effective, viable option for commuters in the north. Hs2 was sold on the merit of connecting the Northern Powerhouse to london, and if that very part is now, no longer going to be part of the entire plan, then youve got to question whats the benefit . We can get from birmingham to london within an hour, an hour and ten minutes already. So why why continue doing that if theyre going to scrap the top part . It just its baffling that this government has managed to mess this up. Okay. Mess this up. Okay. Why can we do nothing . Why can we do nothing . Why can we do nothing . Why can we do nothing . Why can we get nothing right . Why is it left to the victorians and the edwardians . Victorians and the edwardians . Well, theyre always skint. Were always skint. We wouldnt were always skint. We wouldnt be skint if we fracked though, would we scrap the foreign aid budget and scrap frack . No. We talked about this no. We talked about this before. If we frack, wed probably all probably be giving it all to foreign. Foreign companies. Itd be owned by foreign get rid the foreign aid budget. Rid of the foreign aid budget. You are. Well, there you are. Well, there you are. Start. Dont start. Dont start. Begins at home now, Charity Begins at home now, sport. Lets go to paul coyte with that. So were talking with that. So were talking about a doping hearing. About a doping hearing. Yes. You remember camilla . Never heard of her. You do remember this. You remember isabel at the olympics, correct . Golden what . What . Skating. Ice skating. Skating. Ice skating. Skating. Ice skating. Who cares . Who cares . He watches out. Eamonn he watches out. Eamonn i dont care. Right. I dont care. Right. Come on, eamonn out today. Come on, eamonn out today. Didnt you seem like a bit of this . Shall i just lean over you then . No, no, but. No, no, but. So whats she done . This is the deal. Kamila valieva. Shes 15 years old. Skated for the russians russian russians or for the Russian Federation. There is. Do you federation. There she is. Do you remember . She was. Child. Yes, i shes a child. Yes, i remember thats it. Remember now. Thats it. All coming to now. Its all coming to you now. And the first ever to do and she was the first ever to do the quadruple sialkot the quadruple spin. And sialkot and anyway, she and what have you. Anyway, she went the olympics. Went into the into the olympics. She team with the she won the team gold with the russians. The Russian Federation of olympic , whatever they call of olympic, whatever they call themselves, influence of olympic, whatever they call th< drugs. Es, influence of olympic, whatever they call th this is what she tested positive for. So now the awards, the for. So now the awards, the actual medals werent awarded because they had to then take this further. Youd think it would just be a ban. But then its gone to the court of arbitration for sport. The america ricans have also been all over instagram and theyve had a campaign where theyve had these boxes saying these empty medal boxes saying its more than just the medals. It shouldnt be allowed. Et it shouldnt be allowed. Et cetera. Cetera. So anyway, cetera. Et cetera. So anyway, finally goes to the court of arbitration sport today. Arbitration for sport today. Theres views this. Theres three views on this. Youve world anti doping youve got the World Anti Doping Agency that she agency who are saying that she should banned. Should be banned. The International Union that International Skating union that say she should be banned , say she should be banned, whereas youve got the Russian Doping Agency , guess what whereas youve got the russian dopiisay. Gency , guess what whereas youve got the russian dopiisay and y , guess what whereas youve got the russian dopiisay and guess guess what whereas youve got the russian dopiisay and guess whats what whereas youve got the russian dopiisay and guess what they it they say and guess what they say, oh, its oh, well, it was just a mistake. So anyway, its going to be a three day hearing, but the end of this, you but at the end of this, you know, we can argue about who should medal and who if should have the medal and who if there was cheating going on. Were talking about 15 year old me. Look, i was sitting here quietly thinking , maybe its quietly thinking, maybe its because a mummy, but i just because im a mummy, but i just sit and think , russian taking sit and think, russian taking drugs. Obviously terrible things in themselves in the current world. Shes 15 year old kid. Someone else has been. Do you really think theres a 15 year old thats going, you know try my know what . Ill try my grandmothers heart tablets because going help. Because thats going to help. Mismanaged and shes been mismanaged and theres adult responsible theres an adult responsible behind theres an adult responsible beistill mean to say she still doesnt mean to say she should medal. Still doesnt mean to say she shoshe medal. Still doesnt mean to say she shoshe should. Medal. She should. She should. I agree a medal. I do i agree a medal. But i do think its when a child think its sad when a child shes pawn game. Shes a pawn in the game. Shes in the game. And shes a pawn in the game. And then weve got the americans that be upgraded to gold. That should be upgraded to gold. So take three days so its going to take three days this hearing. But well see how it really see that it goes. I cant really see that it goes. I cant really see that it way, apart it can go any other way, apart from fact theyre saying from the fact theyre saying that gets drugs but that she gets a drugs ban. But well well be hanging on every word of that. So will. Kamila valieva. So we will. Kamila valieva. There go. Thank you very much indeed. You find that more interesting . Suddenly perked up. He did. Suddenly perked up. You its like you were. Honestly, its like youre by youre drawn in by it. Might need some that heart. I was just thinking we might have film. Have to make a film. To do a little bit of we need to do a little bit of a test for what was it called . Lapu lapu. Ill tell you what it was. Ill tell you what it was. Tell you it was. It ill tell you what it was. It was was i cant usually say aspirin a chemist, aspirin when i go to a chemist, let anything else. But let alone anything else. But its trimitas. Odin. Yeah. You gave little yeah. You gave him a little shot trimetazidine there. Shot of trimetazidine there. Thats it. Sorted it out. Know i did last do you know what i did last night . I sent paul some. Some video footage last night of the original titles of the pilot for the 6 million man. Yes. Do , do, do do do k, d, d, d. Do, do, do do do k, d, d, d. It was nothing like the tv series. It was like some crazy soul song from the mid 70s with some disco tune. Well, do you know who was singing that tune . No Dusty Springfield. Get out of here. Im telling you, Dusty Springfield was doing the theme from the million man theme from the 6 million man theme for the 6 million man. Then everybody looked at for the 6 million man. and then everybody looked at for the 6 million man. and thoughtierybody looked at for the 6 million man. and thought itybody looked at for the 6 million man. and thought it wast looked at for the 6 million man. and thought it was all oked at it and thought it was all rubbish opening titles rubbish and the opening titles were they changed were rubbish and they changed it. A man barely alive. Gentlemen, can we can rebuild him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, so it all ended up good. So, so it all ended up good. So, so it all ended up good. So if they did it now though. 6 million. Its nothing is it. No rebuild a man . No. What would he have to be like 20 trillion. Yeah. Yeah 20 trillion person. We need to start a campaign you like, campaign to get you to, like, a nostalgia where you can nostalgia show where you can sing know, variety sing and, you know, a variety show. Do you think . Show. Do you think . Show . Yeah we need more, more, more of the bromance. Okay. Thank you very much okay. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you, paul coyte. Thank you, paul coyte. Right. Stay with us. Lots more coming your way, including a major sandwich chain is a major uk sandwich chain is charging customers a fortune for a simple lunch. Guess how much . A simple lunch. Guess how much . Well tell you after this its been a busy old show this morning, but this is the time where we all kick back and relax and we go through the papers. Its actually our favourite part, isnt it, eamonn . Like shoplifting. Yes, like shoplifting. Yes, like shoplifting. Pastime for everyone. Its a pastime for everyone. Dawn neesom norman baker with the papers now. Norman the sun are covering this today. The papers now. Norman the sun are covering this today. Weve are covering this today. Weve had a few mentions of this over the past few weeks, but this was in hull hallford sorry, halfords , which has got the, the motor spares store. Spares store. Yes, this is some employee at halfords who tried to stop a shoplifter and is basically been told off by his bosses for doing so. And the basis is not halfords policy for them to intervene with people who walk out of stores. And yet the story out of stores. And yet the story last week, i think we were covering on the on on papers covering on the on on the papers was that police arent was that the police arent really turning much. Really turning up very much. And people with people are just walking out with with get away with goods because they get away with goods because they get away with so heres with it anymore. So heres someone trying to do the right thing. I suppose, getting thing. I suppose, and getting well this last week. I had a friend basically i had a friend who basically stopped someone coming out of a sainsburys in leeds, tripped them up and i said, why . Its not my responsibility. You know, to protect sainsbury from someone nicking chocolate bars or whatever. It happens to be because its the right thing to do. But not in this mans case. Wow. Wow. No, i mean, its sort he he worked so, isnt he . I think he worked there and he was injured. Do you think it matters if you or not . I think you work there or not . I think if you if i see someone dropping litter, ill say, excuse if litter, ill say, excuse me, if someones dog fouls and they dont clear it up, i say, excuse me, do you not worry about someone attacking you slightly . But if as a society but i also think if as a society we calling out that we stop calling out things that are disgusting and outrageous, then just basically then were all just basically saying right. I think thats right. I think thats right. Do tackle someone, you if you do tackle someone, you could up getting prosecuted could end up getting prosecuted for attacking them, insulting them. Well, i probably wouldnt tackle someone, but i might tut loudly it was someone loudly and say it was someone stole something and were stole something and they were they were getting £20 for it elsewhere and were elsewhere and they were in terrible dire and distress terrible dire need and distress and had 17 children or and they had 17 children or something you not feel something would you not feel bad . Well, do you know what . Going to church as i did growing up , the church got robbed up, the church once got robbed one they had one christmas because they had these all these kings that they moved all around until it came around the church until it came to the oh, i dont know, theres a date after christmas where the kings they kings finally arrived and they all and we were all all got nicked and we were all upset about it. But the priest took view. Well, you know, took the view. Well, you know, it for somebody and it was needed for somebody and we sort of to we were all sort of made to feel, know, actually feel, you know, you actually ought about the people ought to think about the people doing as victims as well. Okay. So if someones working from home today, they could be piling on the pounds. Dawn yes. Yeah. I love this story. Yeah. I love this story. This is the daily mail story. Page three, the daily mail. Were always talking about working these days, working from home these days, arent people arent we . And lots of people havent back havent bothered going back after not after the pandemic, but its not good you. Evidently, if you good for you. Evidently, if you consume almost 800 extra calories a day and you walk 3500 fewer steps on days when you are working remotely. See, this is working remotely. See, this is new research by oh, surprise, surprise. My fitness pal who have quizzed our so many correspondents. Yeah. And yeah correspondents. Yeah. And yeah andifs correspondents. Yeah. And yeah and its basically youre not walking enough and youre eating too much now i since ive left the newspaper, im obviously not popping the newspaper, im obviously not popping in here. Im actually sitting at my desk from home and weve only small flat, so weve only got a small flat, so i literally reach out and i can literally reach out and open the fridge door. Yeah, but you dont, dawn. Yeah, but you dont, dawn. And it is lethal. And it is lethal. Do have self control . Do you have self control . Do you have self control . The wine fridges in do you have self control . Way the wine fridges in do you have self control . Way i the wine fridges in do you have self control . Way i tende wine fridges in do you have self control . Way i tend to line fridges in do you have self control . Way i tend to stopridges in do you have self control . Way i tend to stop there; in do you have self control . Way i tend to stop there but the way i tend to stop there but i mean it is, it is lethal. When you yourself and you you do find yourself and you dont much cycle or dont walk as much or cycle or whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah. You see, you say you well you see, you say you have yet. Ive have a small flat yet. Ive looked instagram and i could looked on instagram and i could have lived a have sworn you lived in a mansion because you had these bicycles hanging the bicycles hanging from the ceiling whatever. Bicycles hanging from the ceilyeah. Whatever. Yeah. Em e of halfords in those branch of halfords in the background. Those branch of halfords in the bacthatind. That was it. But that was, that was it. That like in your sitting that was like in your sitting room or something. The sitting thats literally the sitting room. The room. Thats literally the hallway. Yeah. Im sorry about the know. I know, the bikes. I know. Yeah i know, but. Yeah, but so, yeah, were getting fatter because were sitting at home. Maybe should sitting at home. Out maybe should sitting at home. Out and maybe should sitting at home. Out and play aybe should sitting at home. Out and play some should sitting at home. Out and play some football,1 get out and play some football, but leather footballs. But not with leather footballs. Norman, the link, by the norman, i like the link, by the way. Norman, i like the link, by the wayvery link that one. Very good. Link that one. Thats pay me for. Thats what they pay me for. This this settling this is. This is settling council told a local council who have told a local school use Leather School it shouldnt use leather footballs theyre footballs because theyre interfering community interfering with the Community Enjoyment effectively. Theyve been served a community protection. I feel protection notice. I feel slightly guilty because i was the who took that the one who partly took that through parliament as a minister at time, is good at the time, which is a good thing but its thing in many ways, but its been misused because and thing in many ways, but its beeiplace misused because and thing in many ways, but its beeiplace calledised because and thing in many ways, but its beeiplace called the because and thing in many ways, but its beeiplace called the manifestonnd this place called the manifesto club, never heard of them club, ive never heard of them whove drawn together identifications when these identifications of when these cpns been used , including, cpns have been used, including, for example, of chalk markings theyve been issued against someone. Who put down chalk markers on the pavement, as well as people who have been loitering and people whove got their volume up on televisions too high, which doesnt seem to me to be councillors rather overreacting to the situation. So i dont understand this story. Sorry. Why have why is the sorry. Why have why is the leather foot ball being outlawed . Because its noisier than noisier, apparently not. Because it injures you more. I mean, i heavier. Yeah. Yeah. I yeah. I can yeah. I can remember yeah. I can remember we yeah. I can remember we used to call them bladderball. Yes, thats right. When you were young soaked up the young and they soaked up the water and going out in the school Playing Field on a november morning or whatever, school Playing Field on a nowyour r morning or whatever, school Playing Field on a nowyour legs rning or whatever, school Playing Field on a nowyour legs were or whatever, school Playing Field on a nowyour legs were purple tever, and your legs were purple and then would on the then they would hit you on the legs it would just rise up legs and it would just rise up and whatever memories. So and whatever happy memories. So yeah, its not the yeah, so its not its not the its not the pain, its the noise, the noise. But i mean, with the old school leather football, semi professional footballers school leather football, semi back essional footballers school leather football, semi back in;ional footballers school leather football, semi back in theil footballers school leather football, semi back in the day tballers from back in the day have developed issues developed dementia issues because constant heading because of the constant heading of heavy, wet leather balls. Of a heavy, wet leather balls. But this is nothing to do with that. This is just noisy. That. This is just its noisy. Okay. Apparently that. This is just its noisy. Well, apparently that. This is just its noisy. Well, asiparently that. This is just its noisy. Well, as someone who really does offended by noise , yes, does get offended by noise, yes, im for this. Im all for this. This must be neighbours. Neighbours complaining, but living a school. What do living next to a school. What do they expect . Yeah. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Lived next jail well, we lived next to a jail. Our school. Our school. So we. Our school. Our school. So we would kick the ball. The ball would kick the ball. The ball would hit the walls and make noise. And then youd kick the ball and it would over the ball and it would go over the wall prisoners would ball and it would go over the wall off prisoners would ball and it would go over the wall off theirisoners would ball and it would go over the wall off the otherers would ball and it would go over the wall off the other side. uld ball and it would go over the wall off the other side. You take it off the other side. You never got it again. And you never got it back again. And you would hear them kicking it. There now breakfast or there now breakfast is served or whatever. Would come in whatever. Some would come in with then, and this whatever. Some would come in wia then, and this whatever. Some would come in wia sandwich then, and this whatever. Some would come in wia sandwich fromthen, and this whatever. Some would come in wia sandwich from pret and this is a sandwich from pret a manger. What would you say . What would you say . £7. Oh £7 for that. There we go. I was going to ask a bit of that 15. Right. Right. Okay. Im going to have that bit. A sandwich. Thats a baguette. It is a baguette, yes. Okay it is a baguette, yes. Okay right. Right. Anyway, i tell you what it is this if if you can see its this if you if you can see its cheese and pickle sandwich sun dned cheese and pickle sandwich sun dried tomato or something in there and a little bit of cress. The main thing is it costs £7, 15. Is that right . Yeah. This is a story on page 13 of the sun and its pret cheese and pickle rip off £7, 50 for a sarnie. 50 for a sarnie. And they are saying its like, that looks revolting. When i do that. Just when i do that. Im just saying are its saying people are saying its britains worst value. Baguette sun call it baguette and the sun call it posh and pickle. Posh bits, cheese and pickle. All right. Its got a sun dried tomato in there its tomato in there as well. Its basically cheese and pickle. Thats not posh, but it is thats not that posh, but it is rather a lot of money. And im going tell you what, said going to tell you what, said pret have said that the £7. 50 price or £5. 95 to eat out was only in transport hubs. Most customers could buy this baguette here to take away for £4. 95 in non station out lets and this was basically a london tube station so thats why theyre ripping people off not ripping people off. No its delicious. A lot of it i think its delicious. Its delicious. But ive tasted the same for a lot less. Exactly. Exactly. But i got fish and chips last friday night and of course, £13, 50 to £11 for the fish and £2. 50 for the for the chips. Whats the world coming to, norman . Well i should say is a very good place in paddington, round the corner from here where very good place in paddington, rourcanie corner from here where very good place in paddington, rourcan getyrner from here where very good place in paddington, rourcan get fish from here where very good place in paddington, rourcan get fish andn here where very good place in paddington, rourcan get fish and chips where very good place in paddington, rourcan get fish and chips foriere you can get fish and chips for £9. 75, including cup of tea, £9. 75, including a cup of tea, including cup of tea. Including a cup of tea. Wow. Wow. However, however, this is but however, however, this is a quiz for right . A little quiz for you, right . The worlds expensive the worlds most expensive sandwich, which also happens to be. Shall we have a guess be cheese. Shall we have a guess at how much it normal . I didnt tell you. Didnt em so you didnt tell me . Just cheese. Um. Cheese. Its um. Its mainly cheese. Yeah, absolutely. Well , i absolutely. Well, i dont absolutely. Well , i dont know. £11, 30. Well, i dont know. £11, 30. Well, i dont know. £11, 30. No. Isabel its in new york. Theres a clue. £17. £17. What more . 22 . What more . 22 . What more . 22 . No , it is £200. No, it is £200. No, it is £200. My god. What kind of cheese is it . Well, the excuse is its. Its a very, very expensive, exquisite cheese they use in it. And you can have it hot or cold. Well, you can have my share of that. So i wouldnt appreciate it. So i wouldnt appreciate it. I wouldnt over was eating expensive cheese or not by by comparison this is actually quite reasonable. Well yeah. Do you think £7. 15 for a sandwich . It is ridiculous. Yes. It is ridiculous. Yes. It is ridiculous. Yes. And then you buy a drink or something to go with that or coffee. You know, you take your kids out for a day out in london or something. Just unaffordable. £4 for a coffee off more than £4 for a coffee in many places. Off more than £4 for a coffee in isoiy places. Off more than £4 for a coffee in iso just aces. Off more than £4 for a coffee in iso just take away coffee. So just take away coffee. So just take away coffee. This a good reason well, this is a good reason to from home. You might put to work from home. You might put on 800 calories. You can make a sandwich save yourself sandwich and save yourself a pretty sandwich and save yourself a preyeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not, not so long ago, not, not, not so long ago, people would have made a sandwich and flask for 30 sandwich and had a flask for 30 year coffee. But now would be frowned but now that would be frowned upon. A bit. Upon. Yeah a bit. Yeah, whatever to skinflint. Yeah, whatever to do that . Well, we still do that football think thats nice. Football i think thats nice. Yeah. We still take a flask of tea. Yeah. Its really nice and tea. Yeah. Its really nice and it much nicer. But the it tastes much nicer. But the security tried security guards have now tried to taking flask in, to stop us taking our flask in, in we use it an in case we use it as an offensive weapon. Yeah or rather, want you to pay £6 rather, we want you to pay £6 for a cup of tea in airtight. Yeah, weve got 30s. Is that yeah, weve got 30s. Is that enough time to squeeze in a dennis menace story . Dennis the menace story . The menace. Dennis the menace story . Uk the menace. Dennis the menace story . Uk government ace. Dennis the menace story . Uk government has got an advert to encourage people to export, dennis the export, but using dennis the menace says on the advert menace and it says on the advert that london that its created in london unleashed in more than 100 countries and people in dundee quite are saying no. Quite rightly are saying no. Dennis menace created in dennis the menace was created in dundee and not a london dundee and its not a london generated story. Cultural appropriation , absolutely. Dennis the menace. I thought you were going to say it was politically incorrect or something, and i was disappointed because my son loves im glad thats loves it, but im glad thats okay. Few. Norman dawn, okay. Still few. Norman dawn, thanks thanks for thanks very much. Thanks for the sandwich. For sandwich. Well have more for you this. Heres aidan you after this. Heres Aidan Mcgivern you after this. Heres aidan mcgiveitemperatures rising in the temperatures rising in boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Further from the met office. Further rain or showers today, but it wont be raining all day everywhere. There some everywhere. There will be some sunshine between, although sunshine in between, although it will before storm will stay blustery before storm agnes arrives tomorrow to bring a widespread swathe of disruptive winds. We start off tuesday with showers moving through southern and Central England, clearing to the east. Another spell of wet weather moves into Northern Ireland and then during the morning then scotland during the morning and afternoon. That clears and early afternoon. That clears to showers some of these showers could especially could be heavy, especially western and northern western scotland and Northern Ireland, some ireland, but therell be some sunshine between. And in the sunshine in between. And in the south east warm in south east it will feel warm in the whilst the strong the sunshine whilst the strong wind the north northwest wind in the north and northwest coastal gales a possibility. Coastal gales is a possibility. Will keep it feeling on the cool side. And the spells of side. And then the spells of rain showers become more rain and showers become more confined north and confined to the north and northwest of the uk. Overnight clear spells elsewhere even clear spells elsewhere and even in northwest. Those showers in the northwest. Those showers will generally ease by dawn. So for most, actually, its a bright to wednesday and bright start to wednesday and its a relatively calm start compared with whats to come later in the day. So plenty of Early Morning sunshine and a bit of a chill in the air the of a chill in the air in the north temperatures in the north with temperatures in the mid but nothing mid single figures. But nothing out ordinary. The cloud out of the ordinary. The cloud builds and then builds in the south and then well, by later in the morning, the sign of storm agnes the first sign of storm agnes with the wind picking up in the west and spells of rain pushing into Northern Ireland, southwestern scotland, irish sea coastal areas and that rain turning heavy by the end of the day. Widespread gales day. But the widespread gales that develop through western coasts cause disruption. Coasts could cause disruption. The temperatures rising , a the temperatures rising, a boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Weather on. Gb news. So were talking about levelling up. Peter he makes an interesting point , although he interesting point, although he says i live down in the south west, fed up with the moaning souls from manchester hs2 souls from manchester about hs2. That lot get all the levelling up while we down in the south west have nothing. Nothing, he says. In the south west services are south west Rail Services are dependent on the weather. There are no motorways. Even m5 are no motorways. Even the m5 stops at exeter, hardly even many dual carriageways. So you many dual carriageways. So you think you have a joe says the same in norfolk. Wind. Good morning. Its 9 00 on tuesday, the 26th of september. Youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel. Doesnt time fly . These are the stories that weve been covering since 6 am. This morning. The home secretary is about to appeal to World Leaders to change International Law designed to protect refugees and Asylum Seekers. Shes in washington, dc, where shell set out the case for a Major Overhaul of the Un Refugee Convention. More than 70 years after it was signed. After it was signed. Its an audacious move from the home secretary whos expected to appeal to World Leaders to get on board with her agenda to overturn 70 years of a settled policy on International Response to refugee situations. Response to refugee situations. But will any World Leaders get on her side . Ill have the latest. Thank you. Scotland yard beginning an investigation into sex offence claims against Russell Brand and it comes as he denies all allegations and has accused the government of a conspiracy lisa hartle at Scotland Yard. Say theyre Scotland Yard. Say theyre investigating the claims in london and other parts of the uk. As Russell Brand criticises the government, as they call for social media platforms to demonetise them. Ill have all the details. Ill have all the details. Armed Police Officers continue to stand down from their duties in protest over a colleague being charged with murder. The policing minister told breakfast that a government review will make sure armed officers are better protected, protected legally , all within protected legally, all within reason. We will make sure through this review that the police are able to do their job police are able to do theirjob protecting the public, looking after each and every one of us, without doubt being at risk of unreasonable legal jeopardy. Unreasonable legal jeopardy. And youve been sending us your views on the row over hs2. Your views on the row over hs2. Senior conservatives warning against axing the project despite its spiralling costs and thank you very much indeed for getting in touch as usual. You can do that by by emailing gb views at gbnews. Com or you can tweet us at gb news and we were just eating a cheese and pickle baguette from pret a manger, which is £7. 15 and people reckon its very, very expensive. Do its very, very expensive. Do you know what pret a manger means . Yeah. Ready to eat . Yeah. Ready to eat . Ready to eat. And was ready to eat wasnt it . Yeah yeah it was. Yeah it was. It was. Roll the sting. Okay. It was. Roll the sting. Okay. So all eyes on the home secretary today. Shes going to make a major speech in washington calling on the Un Refugee Convention to be ripped up and rewritten. Well, last year, Suella Braverman called for the uk to leave the European Convention on human rights. Today, shes got the un in her sights stating that her views on the sustainability of the current refugee policy say it is unsustainable. Her view is that unsustainable. Her view is that we are living in a different time and that a Major Overhaul is due okay, this is what the home secretary is going to say. Lets have a look. The status quo, where people are able to travel through multiple safe countries and even reside in safe countries for years while they pick their preferred destination is absurd and unsustainable. Unsustainable. Well, earlier we spoke to the chair of the labour party, Anneliese Dodds, who said its not asylum laws, which are the problem. International conventions are not the reason why the conservative government is failing , in particular to take failing, in particular to take action against the International People smuggling gangs. They are not the reason why the conservative government has such chaos in the asylum system. Theyre not the reason why british taxpayers are paying £8 million a day on accommodation. Million a day on accommodation. And im afraid the response ability for all of this lies squarely with the conservative government. Government. Tom harwood with his analysis on all of this tomes that the lib dem conference in bournemouth, which is in its last day today. Good morning, last day today. Good morning, tom. Good morning. So what do tom. Good morning. So what do you make of Suella Braverman. You make of Suella Braverman. Its an audacious speech from the home secretary today , no the home secretary today, no doubt winning over those in the room at a conservative leaning think tank. The American Enterprise institute in washington , dc. But i suppose washington, dc. But i suppose the words of this speech will not be just intended for those in the room. Theyre also clearly intended for a domestic audience here in the uk and the home secretary will be looking to paint the entire entire global system of refugee settlement as something that was designed in a different time. In an age of non mass migration. An age of non mass migration. Ian because recent research from the centre for policy studies has found that 780 Million People have a theoretic theoretical right to move from one country to another , one country to another, theoretically, although in all probability not in reality. Theoretically those 780 Million People could under this convention decide to move to the United Kingdom. Now, thats clearly a ridiculous statement to make. And yet those to make. And yet those theoretical rights that exist and the home secretary will be pointing this out in the speech later today that this was a convention in her view, designed for a different time that needs updating. However, the big updating. However, the big question is , will other leaders question is, will other leaders of the of other major countries in the world get on board with her agenda . The United Kingdom was an initial signatory to this 1951 convention, and it will take, of course, multilateral agreements to get it changed. This isnt something the United Kingdom can do by itself. So there will be those who criticise the secretary criticise the home secretary today for saying something that might be just a talking shop point, not something that can actually be changed in any immediate term. Thank you. Immediate term. Thank you. Leave it there. Thank you very much indeed. The times 9 06. Just reading in the last few moments about baroness hallett man. She used to be the pensioner minister. She did. She did. She did. Shes been speaking to the telegraph and shes come up with this idea and id love to know what our audience think about it all. Bring in a day all. Bring in a three day working 50s, she working week for over 50s, she says. Keeps them in the workplace, keeps them earning, helps take the burden off the state. When it comes to the pension but also you pension in but also means, you know, not four day week, not know, not a four day week, not a five day, but a three day week. Get paid for do you get only paid for three days or do they pay you five three day . Five days for money a three day . Paid for three, but you get paid for three, but then you get tax breaks, she suggests. And she thinks that this would really be a good idea for employers to offer flexible and part time work and job shares for the over 50s. For the over 50s. What about your under 5010 years . Sure that they give it to me. Sure that they give it to me. Yeah, i can take a three day working week. Working week. Yeah. Well the swedes are often lead the way with these kinds of things, whether it take your view or whether its a snowflake approach and that the old age old because theyre all so depressed. But sweden. But in sweden. But in sweden. Thats true. But in sweden. Theresats true. But in sweden. Theres no true. But in sweden. Theres no sunlight or anything that. Theres no sunlight or anya ing that. Theres no sunlight or anya very that. Theres no sunlight or anya very lovelyt. Theres no sunlight or anya very lovely time sweden a very lovely time in sweden in february. Wasnt in february. And it wasnt depressing all. Yes. Because depressing at all. Yes. Because there lot of drink involved. Obviously. The thing about countries that are dark, like russia and sweden or whatever, people drink a lot to hide their pain. Pain. Well, that is true. They have to regulate alcohol very strictly in sweden because of all the suicides. Meanwhile, the so meanwhile, the metropolitan police have said they have received a number of non recent sexual non recent allegations of Sexual Offences against Russell Brand. Offences against Russell Brand. While he is continuing to deny the allegations. Whilst the met encouraged anyone who met have encouraged anyone who may been affected by this may have been affected by this to forward, the comedian, to come forward, the comedian, as we know, has been denying all the allegations and has actually decided conspiracy decided it is a conspiracy against him. This was his latest thoughts on rumble yesterday evening. Evening. Obviously, its been an extraordinary and distressing week and i thank you very much for support and for for your support and for questioning the information that youve been presented with. By youve been presented with. By now, youre probably aware that the British Government have asked big tech platforms to censor our online content and that some Online Platforms have. Ive complied with that request. Well you may not know is that this happens in the context of the Online Safety bill, which is a piece of uk legislation that grants sweeping surveillance and censorship powers. And its a law that has powers. And its a law that has already been passed. Already been passed. Russell brand rumbling on there. This is gb news, our reporter in london, lisa hart. Shes got more more on all of this as to the metropolitan police and their attitude towards Russell Brand. Tell us more. Lisa the met police say they are investigating a number of claims throughout the uk as well as in london. And this comes, of course, after the investigation by the times, the sunday times and the channel 4 programme dispatches in which four other women also made claims against Russell Brand. Now that video Russell Brand. Now that video that Russell Brand posted last night on social media, hes criticising mps who are calling on social media platforms to demonetise him. And weve already seen this happen with his youtube channel, for example, in which he has 6 million subscribers there. So at the moment hes not able to make any revenue through advertising on that channel. Hes called it a bypassing of judicial process and suggested there was a conspiracy to silence him. Detective superinten andy furphy from the mets central Specialist Crime command said we continue to encourage anyone who believes they may have been a victim of a sexual offence no matter how long ago it was to contact us. We understand it can feel like a difficult step to take and i want to reassure that we have a team of specialist officers available to advise and support , and Russell Brand support, and Russell Brand denies all the allegations. Thank you, lisa. Thank you, lisa. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. 9 10 is the time when the home secretary launched a review into armed policing as large numbers of these officers handed in their weapons as in protest after one of them was charged with murdering chris kaba, who was 24 years of age . Well officers have now returned to duty following a protest and Theo Chikomba has more. Theo chikomba has more. In a worsening crisis around armed policing, we in a worsening crisis around armed policing , we understand armed policing, we understand that a large number of Counter Terrorism Firearms Officers have taken time to consider their position. Consider their position. However, on monday afternoon , we however, on monday afternoon, we learned that enough Firearms Officers have returned to armed dufies officers have returned to armed duties for the metropolitan police to be able to meet its Counter Terrorism response abilities without military help. The crisis engulfing the met follows the Crown Prosecution Service charging. Met Police Service charging. Met Police Officer last week for the murder officer last week for the murder of chris kaba, an unarmed black man in september 2022. The home secretary , Suella Braverman has secretary, Suella Braverman has stepped into the raba, offering her support to the metropolitan armed forces , and shes saying armed forces, and shes saying shes launching a review into this situation. Listen. This situation. Listen. Ive lived here more than five years now, and i mean, compared back from where im from, i mean, its a bad example, but i feel i feel fine here. And i you know, i talk about this with a lot of friends all the time, both female and male friends and would male friends and i would say that londons probably one of the at least a strictly the at least from a strictly anecdotal perspective, i would say the safest, if say its probably the safest, if not the big cities not one of the safest big cities ive not one of the safest big cities pve been not one of the safest big cities ive been to. And ive ive ever been to. And ive travelled fair bit. Travelled a fair bit. Do you feel here . Yes, do you feel safe here . Yes, we havent been for time. We havent been for a long time. So first time for a so today is the first time for a few years. But yeah, feel safe few years. But yeah, i feel safe here today. Here today. The the police in the role of the police in society, you know, just being here for a hours and turning here for a few hours and turning on the news me that that on the news reminds me that that tension both in the tension is going on both in the United States as well as. Here well, there we go. Look, well, there we go. Look, britains newsroom coming up in around 15 minutes time. What was that big noise over there . I dont know. Pretending it i dont know. Pretending it didnt happen. And im going to hear about coming in hear about whats coming up in the morning. The show this morning. With lovely emily. The show this morning. I with lovely emily. The show this morning. I know. With lovely emily. The show this morning. I know. Fulli lovely emily. The show this morning. I know. Full of ively emily. The show this morning. I know. Full of smiles. |ily. The show this morning. I know. Full of smiles. Very nice. E nice. Well, obviously e well, obviously , were yeah. Well, obviously, were going to go very, very big on the home secretary speech today. For one, welcome it i, for one, welcome it because want someone to say i, for one, welcome it bec not; want someone to say i, for one, welcome it bec not working. T someone to say i, for one, welcome it bec not working. The neone to say i, for one, welcome it bec not working. The asylum say its not working. The asylum and refugee. Refugee system. Cant wait. Andrew cant wait. Andrew cant wait. Laying the blame andrew cant wait. On laying the blame andrew cant wait. On the laying the blame andrew cant wait. On the un ing the blame andrew cant wait. On the Un Convention,me fairly on the Un Convention, which was signed in 51. Interested your thoughts on this i mean, shes this as a gay man . I mean, shes talking about being gay, not being justification for being a justification for seeking are seeking asylum, but there are many persecuted, many people who are persecuted, burnt at stake, whatever it burnt at the stake, whatever it might be. I think lot of people i think quite a lot of people now the channel now crossing the channel suddenly theyre suddenly discover theyre homosexual. Thats my concern. And an awful lot of those young men who are in their 30s im gay. Oh, right. So you can stay there, get out of it. Theres there, get out of it. Theres only about 7 of worldwide. An only about 7 of worldwide. An awful lot of those young men crossing the channel claim to be home. I guess so. Im with her. Im with her. What . The percentage is of those claim asylum in the uk those who claim asylum in the uk are claiming and they are claiming it and then they want boyfriends in. And so apparently not and so apparently its not very many, but its still an issue. T the main issue. The main thing the main thing is i think the main thing is should have narrower should we have a narrower definition for what it means to be a refugee . Shes claiming be a refugee . Shes claiming that be 700 million that there could be 700 Million People who could take quickly claim asylum in europe worldwide. Yes, not to the uk, but i think credit to for her wanting to evolve the definition and acknowledging the world has moved on. Circumstances are different and therefore this Un Resolution should be different because when it came in it was about people avoiding persecution. Now it is the perception of the perception. You may be discriminated against. Thats a big difference. Massive difference. And shes right to make it. And its really upset make it. And its really upset the usual suspects, the labour party , the lib dems, the ngos. Party, the lib dems, the ngos. Yes. Charities. So shes the rainbow migration charity is not best pleased about this. Devastate to hear that devastating. Devastating. So anyway were also going to be talking about sick note britain Record Number of people taking more sick days or a Record Number of sick days anyway are being taken. Why is that . Quite a lot of them in the civil service, of course, obviously. Anyway bosses arent very happy. Whats the great thing were going tease names , baby going to big tease names, baby names, names. Names, baby names. Why is there news . Why is there news . Theres a new list of baby names, popularity. There are some interesting some very interesting ones. Sadly, not doing too sadly, eamonns not doing too well these days. Never has done too well. Never has done too well. But isabel doing but isabel is doing very well, but isabel is doing very weth, no, i dont want oh, no, i dont want everyone. Yes, but theres a couple of really prominent names doing really badly, but were going save it. Going to save it. Teases. Yeah but oh. Oh. Teases. Yeah but i thought for a moment there was some patrick and emily news. No , no, sadly moving on. No, no, sadly not. Moving on. No, no, sadly not. Moving on. Moving on. Always say, you moving on. I always say, you know, parents, they torment themselves over names for children. But whatever you call a child, it becomes it. It becomes it. It doesnt seem to be so abnormal. Once youd know youve done it four times. Well, yeah. And a name like well, yeah. And a name like eamonns not that common, but. Well, in ireland. Theres well, it is in ireland. Theres a few eamonns. You never meet an in life in england . No, we do not. No, we do not. In ireland were everywhere. In ireland were everywhere. In ireland were everywhere. Holmes. Im i remember Eamonn Holmes. Im so old. I remember Eamonn Holmes. Im so iwhatever i remember Eamonn Holmes. Im so whatever happened to him . Whatever happened to him . Whatever happened to him . Fine irish fella, wasnt it . Right. 7 right. We . Right. We look forward to your show. Thank you both. And were going take a quick were going to take a quick break this. Well be break after this. Well be heanng break after this. Well be hearing your views on hs2. Time to well find to derail us. Well find out after. Its as to who wrote this. Got you hot under the collar today, nigel, the Current System is at capacity with high speed commuter and freight trains. New line will free up capacity by moving high speed trains. Nothing to do with 20 minutes from birmingham. It all becomes very complicated, doesnt it . But basically more than but basically theres more than just this 20 minute saving in time. I think a lot of people are saying joyce says, good point, joyce. We cannot get things right because we no longer have any thriving Home Industries to pay for it. We rely on foreign money, too much suits. The globalists , but not suits. The globalists, but not british interests, says joyce. Weve also been talking about cost ale this morning. Were going to go to on cask ale later. Lets save that, shall we, and stick with the hs2 teas i okay. Teas. Okay. Teas. Weve been discussing reports the minister is mulling the Prime Minister is mulling axing it effectively and weve been getting your views in all of this. Lets have a listen in all this hs2, lets scrap it. Should we keep it going . Of course we should keep it going. Where i live, theres disrupt action. Cutting down action. Theyre cutting down the woods. Cutting all woods. Theyre cutting down all sorts digging sorts of things, digging tunnels. Repossessing tunnels. Theyre repossessing houses. Tunnels. Theyre repossessing houses. Thats called progress. Houses. Thats called progress. We have to do these things. Were Great Britain go all the way to scotland for me. Absolutely hs2, like the majority of rail projects in the uk , aims to satisfy the london uk, aims to satisfy the London Business community and its insatiable appetite for staff. The other well, its also a big week for beer lovers. The industry is holding its annual celebration of cask ale , annual celebration of cask ale, annual celebration of cask ale, a unique to the Great British pub cask ale week is shining the spotlight on one of the countrys favourite tipples. In countrys favourite tipples. In fact, it so much you fact, you like it so much you spend than £1 billion a spend more than £1 billion a year it. But can encouraging year on it. But can encouraging others to try it save the pub trade . Well, will hollis has got the tough gig of finding out. Well, will hollis has got the tough gig of finding out. Forget tough gig of finding out. Forget your lager and your scrumpy. Your lager and your scrumpy. Its cask ale week and at the white lion in beeston theyve got lots of it. David is general manager for the Lincoln Green pub. Today im pouring you a pint of hood, which is our best bitter. Its a cask ale coming straight from the lines downstairs , which im pulling downstairs, which im pulling through now. Its a non pressurized container so it is not as gassy or as cold as your standard lager or bitter from the draught lines. And that from the draught lines. And that is a perfect pint of bitter for my local brewery at Lincoln Green. Green. The nottingham pub is hoping to serve loads of the stuff, especially specially to people whove never tried it. Its keeping ian busy in the cellar. Every cask needs to be vented , ready for sale to get the product breathing. Sometimes you product breathing. Sometimes you get wet, sometimes you dont. Just a firm smack and that one is a dry one. Cask is unfiltered and it aint very fizzy. Cask is unfiltered and it aint very fizzy. Unlike other aint very fizzy. Unlike other beers, you cant take it home. Youve got to go down to the pub where its pumped up from the cellar by hand. Its delicate, which is why the industry body cask marks send beer inspectors like rachel into pubs. First of all, temperature and for full marks. Were looking at between 10 and 14 c. This is looking good. 11. 5, 11. 2. So thats perfect. Were looking at thats perfect. Were looking at clarity of the beer to make sure that its nice and bright. The aroma, nice and fresh and the taste perfect. Taste perfect. It brits absolutely love cask ale. In the last 12 months alone, they drank 290 million pints of it. That brought more than £1 billion into the economy. And thats why cask mark wants more brits to try it because its good for the industry and thatis its good for the industry and that is good for beer lovers are cracking. Lee is a delivery cracking. Lee is a Delivery Driver for a long time he loved lageh driver for a long time he loved lager, but then he tried cask and hasnt looked back like little brewers make and create different ales. It tastes different. It tastes different. Something interesting about them, something exciting to drink. Not your standard of your standard ales, but you know youre going to get in every pub that go into. That you go into. Yeah, are closing every yeah, pubs are closing every day, trying cask might day, customers trying cask might help change that. Will hollis gb help change that. Will hollis gb news in beeston cheers will thank you very much indeed for that. Well raise our glasses to you tomorrow morning from 6 am. Through to 9 30 am. On television and on radio and onune television and on radio and online as well. Hope you can online as well. Hope you can join us. Were everywhere. Were everywhere. Were everywhere. And up next is andrew and emily with britains newsroom. But first, though, one last look at the weather for us, Aidan Mcgivern. With that , a brighter mcgivern. With that, a brighter outlook boxt solar proud outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Hello. Hello. Very good morning to you. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office. Further rain or showers today, but it wont be raining all day everywhere. There sunshine there will be some sunshine in between, stay between, although it will stay blustery before storm agnes arrives tomorrow to bring a widespread swathe of disruptive winds. We start off tuesday with showers moving through southern and Central England, clearing to the east. Another spell of wet weather moves into Northern Ireland and then scotland during the morning and early afternoon. That clears to showers of that clears to showers some of these showers could heavy, these showers could be heavy, especially and especially western scotland and Northern Ireland, but therell be between. And be some sunshine in between. And in it will feel in the south east it will feel warm the sunshine the warm in the sunshine whilst the strong the north and strong wind in the north and northwest coastal gales is a possibility will it possibility. We will keep it feeling on the cool side. Then the spells of rain and showers become more confined to the north and northwest of uk north and northwest of the uk overnight. Clear spells elsewhere and even in the northwest. Those showers will generally ease by dawn. So for generally ease by dawn. So for most, actually, its a bright start to wednesday its start to wednesday and its a relatively calm start compared with to whats come later in the day. So plenty of Early Morning sunshine, of a chill in sunshine, a bit of a chill in the air in the with the air in the north with temperatures mid single temperatures in the mid single figures, out of the figures, but nothing out of the ordinary. The cloud builds in the then well, by the south and then well, by later in the morning, the first sign storm agnes with the sign of storm agnes with the wind up in the west and wind picking up in the west and spells of rain pushing into northern southwest and Northern Ireland, southwest and scotland and irish sea coastal areas and that rain turning heavy by the end the but heavy by the end of the day. But the gales that the widespread gales that develop through western coasts could cause disruption. Could cause disruption. A brighter outlook with boxt solar the proud sponsors of weather on. Gb news well back weather on. Gb news well back big speech today from the home secretary in washington, Suella Braverman. Shes got guts, hasnt she . She has got guts. We think what shes going to say is that the definition of refugee is just too broad. Yeah. And basically, she says theres far too many crossing theres far too many crossing the channel and shes quite right and she wants to try and put a stop to it. The usual suspects yeah. So the usual suspects are not nice, are saying its not very nice, but well see. Good morning to you. Its 930 on tuesday, the 26th of september. This is britains newsroom on gb news with Andrew Pierce and emily carver. It is indeed now new Russell Brand allegations as the met has opened an investigation into historical sexual offence claims against the comedian. He denies all allegations. All allegations. Obviously its been an extraordinary and distressing week and i thank you very much for your support and for questioning the information that youve been presented with. Youve been presented with. Absurd and unsustainable. Thats how the home secretary, Suella Braverman, will describe the uns asylum rules , which the uns asylum rules, which affect britain. In a speech in washington on the chairman of the labour party, Anneliese Dodds attacked her speech. Im afraid the responsibility for all of this lies squarely with the conservative government. And the costs continue to escalate. The row over hs2 continues as