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Morning, 17 year old luke littler hits a nine dart finish as he wins the premier league of dans as he wins the premier league of darts final at the o2 as he wins the premier league of darts final at the 02 west hams. Lucas paqueta is charged by the fa for allegedly getting booked deliberately and affecting the betting market. You know what that means and where is the olympic flame today . I hear you ask. Ask. Where is he . Where is he . Good morning. Its a bit of a cooler day for most of us today, but how are things shaping up for the Bank Holiday Weekend . Find out all the details with me a little later on. Where is the olympic flame today . Well , its today . Well, its funny you should ask that because ill tell you very shortly. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Well, that worked well. Well, that worked well. Well, that worked well. Rehearsals are full. We should have done one. Im Stephen Dixon. Good morning, good morning, im ellie costello, and this is breakfast on gb news. This mays fallen. Hes fallen over on his way out of the studio. Youre right. Youre right. Are you okay . Yes. Im. Yeah, i just i think i think it was the. It was the unrehearsed tease that i did just now has thrown me. And ive now bumped into a light. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Its going to be one of those days. There you go. Heres the thing for both of you. Oh, yeah. Holidays when we go on holiday. Are you one of these people who walks into the supermarket and goes, oh, look, they do kick cats. Yes. Thats. Yes, thats exactly. Yeah. Well, theres this fella in the in the daily star who, is , the in the daily star who, is, is going on an all inclusive holiday. So hes paid for all his food and most of it, its £1,400. Its cost him and his suitcase is full of food. Snacks. So hes taken , oat snacks. So hes taken, oat burst, whatever that is. Right. Walk. Walkers crisps would he . Biscuits. Where is he going . Biscuits. Where is he going . Every flavour of pot noodle. You could think of, where is he going . Because he does kind of depend where youre going. If hes in the middle of the amazon, then its understandable that he wants to take some crisps. Egypt. Going to egypt . Going to egypt . Yeah, to egypt, taking a bottle of brown sauce to egypt. He says hes got sausages as isuppose he says hes got sausages as i suppose you can take meat into places. Oh, i wouldnt be travelling with sausages, but anyway. Oh, and even shampoo. Well shampoo. Fair enough. Space raiders discos every flavour of pot noodle you can think of. See, i have been known to pack teabags. Id pack teabags because you cant get a good cup of tea abroad. You know, in america if you go. They do not understand. Even go. They do not understand. Even to this day i do not understand. A cup of tea and you go, why do you want milk with that . Id just like. Well, what seems to be the problem . And then its like, have you got tea . But what is it . What is it . Lemon tea drives me crazy, so thats understandable. Its where they bring it. They bring you a tea part with hot water in it, and then a tea bag separate. And you know what . And you know what . You brew the bloomin thing. You cant buy a kettle in america. Did you know that . No they dont. You cannot buy a kettle. I stayed with someone. I want to make some tea. And they go, well, the only kettle they have is when they put it on the hob and then heat up the water. Its crazy. They might. Its a very behind country. Ill have you know, america backwards. Yes, backwards. Well, youre a bit like this fella who says im only interested in the free beer at the all inclusive. The food. Do you mean im a bit like him . Youd be like that. Thats nothing like that. Gin. Then i might peach folk. Yeah, right. Come on. Right. Guess im off. Go. Ill see you later. Ive gotta go and work you. But anyway, its crazy. What a waste of money. Well no, i understand that, actually, not to that extent, but i think. Do you think a few home comforts on the two and the tea bags . I comforts on the two and the tea bags . I think thats a good idea. Digestives, digestives, that sort of thing. You know. Yeah. And i think its nice to have a few snacks in a hotel room. Anyway, if youre like this fella whose name escapes me, john phillips, then gbnews. Com yoursay let us know. Gbnews. Com yoursay let us know. Now, the Prime Minister has launched the opening gambit of this election, accusing his opposite number of lacking the courage to debate him. Rishi sunak wants to debate keir starmer every single week in the run up to voting day , and in the run up to voting day, and this comes as a survey shows reform is really threatening 28 conservative seats across the country. Well, theres lots to get through. Joining us now is gb news Political Correspondent. Olivia utley. Good to see you this morning, olivia. Shall we start on the subject of debates . Because rishi sunak says hes keen to debate sir keir starmer every week for the next six weeks. Is that even feasibly possible . Were trying to run a campaign at the same time. Campaign at the same time. Well, every single week does seem very bold when youve got two people who are running up and down the country , on and down the country, on campaign trails. I think its going to be hard to get them in the same place six different times over the next six weeks. Its a very president ial tactic that the Prime Minister is taking here. He seems to want this election to be about rishi sunak versus keir starmer, rather than the conservatives versus labour. Now thats a tactic that might pay off. Polling shows that keir starmer is actually less popular than the labour Party Overall, but rishi sunak isnt very much more popular than the conservative Party Overall , so its not quite Party Overall, so its not quite clear if its sensible. It sounds as though the Prime Minister wants to turn these six tv debates if they actually happen into conversations about immigration and the economy. Now on the economy, the Prime Minister is on relatively strong ground. Technically of course, the uk is now out of a recession. Growth went up by 0. 6, and were seeing a fall in inflation now at 2. 3. And at some point somewhere down the line, we are expecting Interest Rates to go down. Whats even better for rishi sunak is that gas prices are now beginning to go down, and he can point to that as evidence that his economic changes are making a real world effect on immigration. Im not sure if the Prime Minister is quite as on quite such solid ground as he seems to think. Yes, you can make an argument that labours plan for illegal migration is a bit thin on the bones. If Yvette Cooper slightly dodges and evades when shes asked exactly what will happen to migrants who come over here and have their claims, when their claims are being processed . And then what happens when theyre rejected or accepted . But of course, rishi accepted . But of course, rishi sunak cant exactly claim a clean sweep on migration either. He promised to stop the boats, and actually the number of small boats has risen on last year, although its slightly down still on 2022, the rwanda plan is across the line in parliament, but of course we havent actually seen flights take off and rishi sunak has now said we cant expect them to take off before the next general election. There is an argument that what sunak is trying to do is get the flights all ready to go is get the flights all ready to 9 is get the flights all ready to go , so that he can say on the go, so that he can say on the third, 2nd of july, if you vote for me on the 5th of july, these flights will be taking off. If you vote for keir starmer, then these flights will be grounded and the whole scheme will be scrapped , even though its all scrapped, even though its all up and raring to go. Thats what sunakis up and raring to go. Thats what sunak is going to try and do in these tv debates. But keir starmer is a pretty solid performer at the despatch box and i think we can expect him to be pretty confident in in debating sunak. Yes. And but its interesting isnt it , because yes. And but its interesting isnt it, because theres no yes. And but its interesting isnt it , because theres no way isnt it, because theres no way the six would happen. It would be unprecedented. But im right be unprecedented. But im right in thinking, arent i, that keir starmer has agreed to two which frankly would would probably be enough. So its not like hes shying away from the debates altogether either. Altogether either. No. Absolutely not. I mean, this line from rishi sunak that, keir starmer is too scared to debate him. I mean, that that doesnt play out at all already. Labour have said that keir starmer will take part. Hes keen to take part in debates. Of course hell take part in debates. They say there will be at least two tv debates. Im not sure if theres even an appetite in the country for six tv debates. And of course, keir starmer has this line which i think will probably play quite well with the public, that what he wants is for politics to tread more lightly on peoples lives. I think after sort of 6 or 7 very political years in britain, theres quite a big swathe of the public whos ready for the for politics to tread more lightly on their lives. And of course, six tv debates would not come under that heading. So i think keir starmer, if he wants to do just maybe one, two, three, tv debates with rishi sunak will have a pretty good case, okay, olivier, thanks very much indeed. Well, let us know what you think about that. How many debates would you like to sit down and watch between sir keir starmer and rishi sunak . I think youre right. I think two is probably enough. Yeah, yeah, i was going to say one, but actually you probably, you probably need to sort of have a rematch if you like , but i think, i think like, but i think, i think thats enough. Yeah. Six would be make your mind up. Of course the issue is in my keir starmer will be sort of shying away from them more than the Prime Minister is it . In effect, hes got more to lose. Effect, hes got more to lose. Yeah. Its 21 points ahead. Yeah. Its 21 points ahead. Yeah. Its 21 points ahead. Yeah. Keep your mouth shut. Youll probably just walk into number 10 if the polls are right , so hes got hes got more to lose in that sense , but we shall lose in that sense, but we shall see. Anyway, ed davey hasnt been invited to any of these as yet. I mean, that will be the next big point of contention. Whos invited . Yes, lib dems eamonn. If theyre not invited, and then of course, reform. Should they be on the stage . Should they be on the stage . Yeah. Should should they be there . And then of course. Well then you get the weve seen it in the past and you get the greens and you get the snp and everyone. But of course then it turns into one of these huge things where you dont get any proper answers, or do you just debate between the two men who could be Prime Minister, in effect . Effect . Yeah, well, i just know what you think. Gbnews. Com yoursay were going to be talking to the lib dems local government spokeswoman helen morgan. Thats in the next hour. So were getting all perspectives on this. But in the meantime, lets talk to local government editor from conservative home harry phibbs morning to you, harry. Has this been a strong start for the Prime Minister yes, i think i think it has. I actually think it is quite, bold and gutsy of him to well, obviously to call the election , obviously to call the election, earlier than than most people, certainly earlier than i was expecting , but also i think expecting, but also i think challenging keir starmer saying, you know, he wants lots of debates. He, hes, up for the, up for the fight that although hes, accepts hes the underdog. He hasnt, he hasnt given up. I he hasnt, he hasnt given up. I do think that whether its whether its through , debates or whether its through, debates or otherwise, that that the focus probably on this election will be on labour because people are understandably the media scrutinise the government for years. They. Whats the government doing about this, what the government doing about that. And its only really in a general election that it becomes , not not whether you like the government or not, but but the choice and i think that that therefore when keir starmer is put under, under scrutiny, then then, we could well see the polls narrow an example the times this morning leading with the with a story about energy bills and net zero and, and, and the and the threat of increased energy bills from, from labour with their or their very alarmist, Climate Change, policies of saying, oh, the planets coming to an end and so we need to, push up energy bills, which is very much been the message from, ed miliband, certainly. So, you know, i think certainly. So, you know, i think that i think that thats thats type of issue. Labour will probably find themselves pressed on over the next six weeks. Well, we are going to be talking to Claire Coutinho from the government on exactly that a little bit later on in the program. But, harry, i wanted to ask you about the role of reform in all of this because we are seeing them very quickly become the third Biggest Party in this country. And theres new yougov data out today that suggests that reform could threaten 28 tory seats. Tory seats. Yes, i think there are. There are a lot of people who are conservatives who probably still think of themselves as conservative, who are who are dismayed by various , policies dismayed by various, policies that the governments been putting forward. And in a way, i think it doesnt really matter if they abstain because theyre angry or they make a protest by voting for reform uk. Those voting for reform uk. Those those are votes where theyre not going to go to labour. But of course, if you get if you get millions of conservatives staying at home, then you get a laboun staying at home, then you get a labour, landslide by default. So that that really is the i mean the reform uk will say, oh, the labour conservatives are exactly the same or whatever, i think that i think that the conservatives will probably be saying no, look , there is saying no, look, there is a difference and a Labour Government would, be completely at odds with what reform uk voters would, would like to see. So i think itll be, you know, who who are you voting against will probably be the pitch rather than who youre voting for. If rather than who youre voting for. If youre if youre trying to trying to sort of win over some of these , some of these some of these, some of these disillusioned, conservatives , disillusioned, conservatives, harry, good to see you this morning. Thanks very much indeed. Its worth pointing out we were hoping to speak to someone representing the Labour Party Just then, but we have that lie ins dropped out technology for you. But were getting lots of views from the labour party throughout the course of the programme. Of course, this morning. Well, lets get the thoughts now of reform uk deputy leader ben habib. Good to see you this morning ben , and im sure youre morning ben, and im sure youre very pleased with that new yougov data out this morning. That reform could threaten 28 tory seats. Tory seats. Well, we intend to threaten them right across the country in every seat they hold. And, i mean , harrys right the way the mean, harrys right the way the conservative party will wish to spin this whole election is. Who do you want to vote against . But if you want to change the country for the better, if you want a change in direction in the way the country is governed, youve got to decide who you wish to for , vote not who you wish to for, vote not who you wish to for, vote not who you wish to for, vote not who you wish to vote against. And actually, the only change on offer on on the ticket is from reform uk. If you look at conservative party policy, the way its played out, their high taxation, big borrowing, big state intervention , high state intervention, high immigration, net zero and labour are that plus a bit more all on the same, all on you know all in the same, all on you know all in the same, all on you know all in the same direction. Whereas the same direction. Whereas reform uk stands 180 degrees against virtually every single thing i just said. So you know, if people want a change in the way the country is governed, theyve got to vote for it. And thats the challenge were going to have, is getting people out who would otherwise be disillusioned with politics, disillusioned with politics, disillusioned with politics, disillusioned with small c conservatism because even though they want it, no party is prepared to offer it. We need to prepared to offer it. We need to get them off their sofas into the polling booths on the 4th of july. Voting for reform uk. July. Voting for reform uk. The problem youve got, though, in trying to youve got people who are supporting you, right, who are frustrated and thats understandable. But youve got to win people over. Youve got to win people over. And the problem youve got is apart from being a sort of protest party, if you like, people are going to say, well, well, what are reform going to do about the nhs . What are reform going to do about education . What are reform going to do about social care . All these issues . What do reform going to do about, you know, maintaining our roads and our highways and its all these issues until we see a manifesto. Issues until we see a manifesto. And unless youve actually laid all that out in fine detail and again, people arent going to really know what theyre voting for. For. Well, actually, we have laid it out in fine detail. If you go to our website, weve got a contract with the people, which sets all of this out. And its all funded, by the way, by two very significant changes , is very significant changes, is that we would make in government policy, both of which the labour party and conservative party are not prepared to make. The first is the ditching of net zero, which, by the treasurys own estimate, is costing £50 billion per annum roughly, and the removal of the free right of passage that commercial banks are being given as a result of getting interest on the money that was created for them when they sold their debt to the bank of england, which is costing the country about 30 or £40 billion a year, just by ditching net zero and removing this free interest that the banks get, we would save 80 to £100 billion per annum, which would give us the ability to roll out all our other policies, including those associated with the nhs, which for which by the way, we have some very novel ideas. Again none of which are being put forward by the opposition parties , by by the main parties. Parties, by by the main parties. Look, want to ask you about nigel farage. We only got a minute left with you. He has decided not to stand as a candidate. But telling tom harwood on his show last night that he was actually planning to launch a campaign to become an mp next week, and that is why, he says, the tories have decided to go early on this general election. Well, i mean, thats nigels interpretation of it, the reality is that rishi sunak realised this was probably even though this looks like a low point for most peoples normal standpoint , that this was standpoint, that this was probably a high point for rishi sunak inflation had come down, the economy wasnt shrinking , he the economy wasnt shrinking, he can ducked the question about whether flights for rwanda are going to take off or not, because the election is coming before his own self imposed 10 to 12 week time frame expires , to 12 week time frame expires, and reform uk was getting stronger every single day that he delayed the election. So im not sure how much nigel farage played in the Prime Ministers mind. I think played in the Prime Ministers mind. I think there were a played in the Prime Ministers mind. I think there were a whole mind. I think there were a whole host of other reasons which moved him to call an election now, and i think from rishis perspective, it was probably a good move, are you saying then you dont believe nigel . I mean, because, i mean, the idea, the idea that hes got. Hold on a minute, hold on a minute. The idea, the that hes got a general Election Campaign ready to roll next week. And he was planning to do it, and because of this announcement is shelved. The whole thing is a bit unusual. Im deputy leader of reform uk, as you mentioned, and i was entirely unaware of his plans to launch a Campaign Next week. Launch a Campaign Next week. Okay. Well, i think that that that says , that says all we need that says, that says all we need to know, i think ben habib, good to know, i think ben habib, good to see you this morning. Thank you. Thanks very much indeed. Well , very you. Thanks very much indeed. Well, very interesting. Well, very interesting. That is interesting. Lets that is interesting. Lets get nigel on the blower. Id like to talk to nigel, because as you all know, hes decided to not stand as a candidate, but but in that letter yesterday, which we had in front of us, he said that he wanted to focus on the us election. Is the us election more important than the uk . One . Well, i would say no, not to us. Us. Well, i would say no, not to us. But it would be interesting to ask nigel that. So, nigel, if youre listening this morning, lets have a chat. I am also i am also intrigued that the as ben habib said, i am the deputy leader of reform uk and i had no idea nigel was planning to launch an Election Campaign next week. And last night nigel was saying im. I was fully geared up, ready to go and thats why the tories went early. Yeah, thats, nigels version of events, according to ben habib. So let us know. Let us know what you think about that. Gbnews. Com yoursay right, 6 20. Lets have a look at some of the other stories heading into the other stories heading into the newsroom this morning. And Emergency Services have reported at least four people have been killed and 16 have been injured after a building collapsed on a beach in majorca. The building gave way at 8 30 pm. Local time on thursday. Reports indicate the first floor collapsed into the ground floor, trapping diners. No british casualties have been reported so far. Far. Former post office boss Paula Vennells has denied that the companys executive team, which she led, shielded the board from dirty laundry. Thats as she also denied trying to close down also denied trying to close down a review into the software , a review into the software, which led to the wrongful convictions of hundreds of subpostmasters. Shell appear in front of the inquiry for a final time later on today. Abortions have risen by a record 17 in one year in england, wales following the introduction of the pills by post system. Thats the highest post system. Thats the highest number of abortions since the 1967 abortion act, and the largest single year increase in more than 50 years. Abortion providers are expecting the increases to continue. All increases to continue. All right, 6 21. Lets take a look at the weather, now, shall we . With annie shuttleworth. With annie shuttleworth. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Good morning. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. Its a bit of a cloudy start for many of us. There will be some sunshine later on across southern areas, but further rain is to come across the north after a very wet few days here. However, having said that, it is going to be drier than it has been lately, but some drizzly rain will continue. Its an area of frontal systems wrapped around this area of low pressure here in the north sea. To the south, though, were well away from that low pressure system, so well see some brightness. The best of the sunshine will likely be across parts of south wales, the southeast as well, but there could be a few showers here and there, temperatures just about climbing to 20 degrees in the south. But for most of us, theyll be a little below par for the time of year, and it will feel fairly cool if youre exposed to an onshore breeze in the north as well. That clear those clearer skies will become a bit more widespread throughout this evening, so a fairly fine end to the working week for many southern counties this evening. Cloudier skies further north with some drizzly rain, particularly across parts of Northern Ireland. Much of scotland as well on the coast and over the high ground, is where the rain is most likely and we will see some breezy. Some stronger winds up towards the Northern Isles as well. It will turn drier as the night goes on, as that area of low pressure pushes away to the north, so clearer skies will become more widely seen throughout the night, covering much of england and wales through the night and into southern scotland by the morning, we could see some mist and fog developing as well across southern counties because the ground is fairly wet, across southern counties because the ground is fairly wet , that the ground is fairly wet, that should clear up quite quickly through saturday morning, but it will be a fresher start to the day. Temperatures in the mid single figures for some of us, so a slightly fresher start to the day, but there will be more sunshine around certainly. And saturday is looking like the most dry and warmest day of the Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us should see plenty of sunshine and dry weather as well. And dry weather as well. However, as the afternoon goes on we could see some heavier showers encroaching into northeastern england, southeastern scotland. But as southeastern scotland. But as i said, most of us should stay dry and in the best of the sunshine, highs of 22 degrees in the south and the high teens in the north, that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. On. Gb news. Now its time for our biggest cash giveaway so far. A massive £20,000 in cash has to be won. And if youve ever wondered what its like to win a gb news giveaway, we caught up with phil cox, who was our very first Great British giveaway winner. This is what he had to say about winning big. Hi, my name is phil cox , im hi, my name is phil cox, im from leeds and i won the Great British giveaway. I just looked at my account and thought, oh my god. Yeah, its true. Its gone into my account, it only took me two two seconds just to text. Id say, why not . Its what is it . The price of a text and £2 to enter. 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Please check the closing time if listening or watching on demand. Good luck. Watching on demand. Good luck. Yes, good luck indeed. Now do stay with us because paul coyte is going to be here next talking us through all the sport. Right. Lets have a look at all the sport paul coyte is here. Good morning, good morning. Good morning, Lucas Paqueta is the name im not familiar with. But im going to have to learn. Right. Hes a brazilian player, signed for west ham. Very good footballer. And Manchester City were very interested in signing him as well. But there was one problem that was getting in the way of Manchester City signing, signing him, and that is this charge that was looming over some yellow cards that looked dubious right now, when i say dubious, the thing is, im going to use the words hes been charged by the fa for allegedly getting booked deliberately for the improper purpose of affecting the betting market. Now do you follow me . Yeah. So what is being alleged is that theres three yellow cards that were given that look like he was doing it on purpose to get a yellow card , which then this is yellow card, which then this is what happened, because you could have spread betting this different betting around the world. I could say i think, yeah, i think that Lucas Paqueta is going to get booked between the 55th and 60th minute. And so obviously the odds are going to be quite high. Now, these are the these are basically the whats alleged is the fact that hes he knows this and is that people have been betting on when or how he gets a yellow card. Or how he gets a yellow card. Now weve had betting problems in the past. Now ivan toney of course , he was banned for nine course, he was banned for nine months. Sandro tonali in newcastle. We spoke about him as well, and it seemed that he was someone that had a betting problem, and he was banned from worldwide football. And then the fa decided that they would just have a suspended sentence because they realised what he was going through. But those offences seem to be more a case offences seem to be more a case of them betting themselves. Yeah. On games, but nothing that they would affect. Now now with this one, if this is proved to be the case that paqueta, if he was doing this during a game and affecting the game and it was him that was doing it, then who knows how long the ban is because its effectively match fixing. Well, thats exactly what it is. And so that is not a situation where i think you could actually ban someone for a yeah could actually ban someone for a year. Surely this if hes found guilty and he is, has actually doneit guilty and he is, has actually done it on purpose. Thats a life ban from football. You cant expect someone to come back in and play sport when theyre affecting whats going on. Its like its like if you score an own goal and say, well, i imagine this is going to happen. Theres been moments back in the day when ive spoken to old footballers where theyve said, look, everybody bet on this because were certain were going to win. But obviously thats you trying to win a game of football. Still doesnt make it right because youre not allowed to bet if youre a footballer. But when it comes to a situation that youre affecting things and people are making money out of something youve done and done it on purpose, then theres a huge, huge problem. So well see. Yeah, watch this space. Shall we talk about our favourite phrase at the moment, which is of course the managerial merry go round. Yes. People jumping on people jumping off continues to. Spinelli continues to spin. Its spinning, spinelli continues to spin. Its spinning , in fact, an its spinning, in fact, an eye watering speed. Yes, yes. Eye watering speed. Yes, yes. Julen lopetegui, is now the west ham manager, so it looks like hes going to have to deal without a brazilian playing for him. The way things are going left wolves in august, him. The way things are going left wolves in august , former left wolves in august, former spain and madrid coach. Real madrid coach. So hes won the Europa League with sevilla. So hes in on at west ham. But the thing is the other name that weve mentioned is Kieran Mckenna. Now can you remember Kieran Mckenna ipswich manager. Oh yes. So he was at Manchester United and as assistant because you mentioned him and then hes done really well at ipswich taking them up to the premier league. So now hes young, hes progressive and everybodys thinking well we want him. So now it looks like hes got hes got the choice. Its like whether he wants to go to chelsea, whether he wants to go to brighton. Theyre the main two and possibly Manchester United. So at the moment hes got some Big Decisions to make, but hes going to have a lot of cash thrown in front of him. What about wayne rooney . What about wayne rooney . See wayne rooney he would love to be in that position i imagine, but he hasnt done quite so well as a manager. No, it hasnt worked out for him in birmingham when he came in. Yeah. Then derby. Then derby. Yeah, it was derby first, then he went to america and washington dc. That didnt work out. Then birmingham, he came over when they were sixth in the league and took them down to 20th. So its not really going so well. So now yeah its trying to find a level. And now plymouth are interested in wayne bim afolami plymouth argyle. And this could be well hot shots. This could be well hot shots. Well you know what plymouth are in the championship. Dont knock plymouth you know. But i can see what youre doing. No. But the interesting thing is because i think what would plymouth argyle pay him. Well i mean this is whats worrying because compared to what he was on, some clubs will try and break the bank to bring a big name in like that. But surely theyre not going to pay him that much because they cant. And also , how they cant. And also, how successful will he be . Will he actually do anything for the club . This will be if he gets this job and it doesnt work out. Thats going to be the end. Unless he goes to saudi arabia or something, because hes not going to be reaching those heights when youre looking at people like Kieran Mckenna, but also with Kieran Mckenna, you know, hes got to make this work. So hes got to choose very carefully because the managerial merry go round, people can fall off that merry go round very quickly as soon as they can get back on. Yeah, should we talk Luke Littler Luke littler a bit of luke , 17 years old, won the luke, 17 years old, won the premier league of darts yesterday, won the final. This kid is unbelievable. Over Luke Humphries over Luke Humphries getting his revenge. Thats exactly right. Because it was Luke Humphries that won the World Championship. So hes won himself i think 240 grand from this. And not only that nine dart finish as well. The ultimate nine dart finish. So brilliant for luke littler. He really is a full on talent isnt it. Oh hes it. Oh hes 17. Oh hes 17. Its a long way to go. Its a long way to go. Yeah. So i mean we still doubted that didnt we. In the World Championship 16 at the time. I still think hes 38 i do, i do im sorry. No, dont be mean. Hes 30. Hes got a baby face. Hes a baby. Do you think so. Hes a baby. Do you think so. Yeah, i think he i do think hes quite young. Thats a. Should we. Thats a. Should we. Only 23. Yeah. Only 23. Yeah. You had a hard paper round. You had a hard paper round. I bet. Hard very hard paper round. Right. Should we do . I mean, this is just a warm up. This is just a warm up. Forget everything else. Ask me the question. Ask me the question. Where is the olympic torch today, paul. Thanks, ellie, for showing such enthusiasm. I know. I know. Listen, weve got. If youre listen, weve got. If youre getting tired now, you wait. Weve got a long way to go on this. I will tell you where the olympic flame is. Lets see the. Look at that. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Does that look familiar . Does that look familiar . No, no. No, no. Its passing through the renowned vineyards of the bordeaux region in southwest france. Oh, it does look pretty on a horse as well. Nine. Wow, 900 million bottles. Oh, theyre running with it how. Now. Gonna take forever at this speed, i know. Well, they go everywhere. Well, they go everywhere. Oh, theres the. Oh, theres the. Oh, theres the. Oh, look, there we are. Theres. I dont know who she is there, but. Anyway the Opening Ceremony of the 26th. Do you hear that . 900 million bottles of wine produced annually in the bordeaux region. So not only do i show you where the torch is, i like to tell you a little bit about the region as well, id like to know who those people were wearing red with little. Were wearing red with little. Well, they looked very catholic. They looked very catholic. They looked very catholic. They look like cardinals. They look like cardinals. They look like cardinals. Oh, there they are going. Well, he lit that in the last fella. This is what worries me this bit because theyre getting very close to the flame. Yeah. Someone is going to set fire to themself and that is not going to be a good thing. So theyre going to be very, very careful. I dont know whether theyre warned about that or its the camera angle. But there we are. So they like the like the ring and then off they go. And theyre off to the charante reason region next charante yes, ive not heard of charante, probably because im pronouncing it wrong. All right. All right. But im either sure right or im wrong. But anyway, thats where theyre going today. Very where theyre going today. Very good with that. God, you should be a stand up. You know. You know what i love . I love the show. Do you get the idea that i love the flame . Yeah, yeah, i do the flame. Its just it looks like a massive cigar. The olympics. The olympics is going to be such a let down for me. Once the once the actual torch bearing is finished. Right. Paul, its been a pleasure. Pleasure. Is it really . Is it really . Oh, no. oh, no. Well see a little bit later on. Thank you very much. Do you stay with us . Were going to be joined by real life husband and wife. Thats what im trying to say, nigel nelson and Claire Pearsall, which is always fun, isnt it . Thats next. Lets have a look at some of the newspapers for you at 638. And the guardian leads with the Prime Minister starting his Election Campaign by abandoning flagship policies such as deporting migrants to rwanda and banning smoking. Thats according to the guardian. According to the guardian. Yes. I dont think hes. I dont think hes. I dont think hes banning sending people to rwanda. I think thats not going to take off before the general election. Is it confirmed . Yes. If he becomes pm, they will be taking off. Yes. Anyway, thats just to clarify on that one. The mirror has the Election Campaign getting to off a bad start. They reckon after visiting a brewery in wales, the express leads with the Prime Minister attacking sir keir starmer for not having the courage to face him in a series of tv election debates. The times has energy bills falling in the first big election battle. What is this . This is where i get confused , because whats it get confused, because whats it got to do with politics that that, ofgem are bringing down the price cap . I dont know. The price cap . I dont know. Lets get some clarity from our senior political commentator, nigel nelson and former government adviser Claire Pearsall. Morning to you both. Pearsall. Morning to you both. Good morning. Can the government, i mean, is that a big election thing that ofgems the price cap is coming down . Yeah, because the government will have a massive part in ensuring that it happens. And also lobbying them to bring it down even lower. So whoever is in power is going to look to exert their pressure over things like ofgem in order to bring that that price cap into a more affordable territory. So its always one of those big election winners for people. They cant take all the credit for it, but they will do because its an Election Campaign. Yeah, well thats a nice spin on it. I mean, i mean, the trouble with oil prices is that that its got nothing to do with the government , that its got nothing to do with the government, oil prices is a global issue. Oil prices are coming down. It depends on opec supplying extra barrels of oil that will bring the price down or cutting them back, which puts it up. Weve had the war in ukraine, the middle east may may yet cause us more problems in the future, but the government doesnt actually , its a bit doesnt actually, its a bit like inflation. The government always takes credit for inflation going down, but not when it but not when it goes up and blames the bank of england, so in this case, of course, its good news is its just not particularly electoral news. But of course it is because its going to affect people. And everybody in the country wants their bills to be a lot cheaper. And its yes there is the price of oil that, that is a on an international scale. But the international scale. But the Energy Companies themselves also add on a whopping great percentage. So that is something that both Political Parties can work for on the germans does work for on the germans does work for on the germans does work for quite hard. Yeah, but if germans want to be independent, cant claim credit for your lot for this happening. Thats the point im making. Thats the point im making. But then youre just going to make bills more expensive. Not if we get the wind power and were not. Would i mean, thats a thats i mean you to laugh about it as you do because youre a i was going to say bickering couple. Thats not fair. Thats not fair. You argue things very sensibly between you two, but thats a real concern. I mean, ive heard it from a lot of people, nigel saying, well, you know, im a bit worried about laboun know, im a bit worried about labour. A tax is going to go up a bill is going to go up. I mean, that needs to be addressed. If hes going to win people over. Yeah. I mean its you certainly need more detail on it. I mean at the moment that hes got the plan, kosterm has got the plan for Great British energy. Now all being well, that will double onshore wind , triple solar and onshore wind, triple solar and quadruple offshore wind. Result of that is annual bills should come down by £1,400 a year. You come down by £1,400 a year. You should be able to create 500,000 jobs that is what it. Also the Economic Growth policy is based on because we are the world is moving towards green technology. If we can lead the way, British Business could get £1 trillion of extra business on the back of it , claire lets take a look at it, claire lets take a look at the guardian shall we. And this is all about parliament now running out of time to pass policies. Yeah. This is , this is the this is, this is the unfortunate side of when an election is called that legislation that is left halfway through , we go into something through, we go into something called wash up, which just before dissolution, any bills that are left over that are far enough advanced can pretty much go through sort of relatively quickly. Now, both sides have to come to an agreement. A lot of anything that is controversial tends to be stripped out of it, and there has to be agreement between the two major parties as to whether this legislation is going to go through. So they tend to look at the most advanced legislation, pretty much the simplest legislation and nothing controversial. And unfortunately, it means a lot of pieces of really good work are now lost. And one of those which i know youve probably spoken about, football governance, which Tracey Crouch , the mp, which Tracey Crouch, the mp, current mp for chatham and aylesford, his been leading on and unfortunately this is now not going to happen. This would have put in a regulator for the engush have put in a regulator for the English Football League would have been a great benefit to especially to grassroots campaigns. And thats just going to go by the wayside. So much work has gone into it. So its a really unfortunate part of the electoral process. And there are some really important things. Renters reform is another one. No fault evictions is going. So it is a real shame. I hope whoever takes over as the next government will look quite seriously at things like renters reform , because i think thats reform, because i think thats really important and massive benefit. But i mean, the guardians saying the rwanda issue , i mean, saying the rwanda issue, i mean, no. Are they playing on that line. Yeah. That isnt entirely true because that legislation has already been passed. What is what has been confirmed by rishi sunak . I think it was yesterday that there would be no flights taking off before the general election, and typically only the flights would only take off should he be returned as Prime Minister which is a, you know, an electioneering promise in itself. So, no, the guardian doesnt have that right. That legislation has already passed. Thatis legislation has already passed. That is already there. And according to the home office plans are already progressed to ensure that people are placed on a plane to take off. It just isnt going to happen, but it would be repealed. Would be repealed. It would be repealed by labour should they win the election. So in the event that we dont get a plane off to rwanda before the election and labour win, then it its never going to happen. And weve wasted around about £310 million, i think, on this because we were given that to rwanda. What what do what do you what do you think what do you think about what do you think about the cigarette ban for all people born after 2008 . I think at the end of 2008. So 2009, do you think that would become a manifesto pledge for the tories . Because thats been talked about a lot, hasnt it . To abandon a lot, hasnt it . To abandon that entirely seems quite strange. Its quite funny because its one of those policies that splits the conservative party right down the middle. There are those who find it profoundly unconservative of which im in that group. I dont think you should go around banning people. I think we all know that smoking is bad for your health, but people have to take personal responsibility. There has to be there have to be choices made, and there are those who wish for it to be banned. So is it going to appear in the manifesto . I dont know, surprisingly, theyve not called me up and asked for my opinions on on what should be in them. They will. They will, you think . Well, but its quite interesting that rishi sunak was so keen on this. He really wanted this to be one of his legacy pieces, and its completely gone by the wayside. It might turn up in the labour manifesto. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They were much more keen on this than the than the tories as a whole. Like banning things as well. Like banning things as well. Yes. Labour do have a history of batting things. Im sorry about that. Yes. Yes. All right. Lets have a look at immigration numbers. Nigel. The express quoting migration watch who say immigration has got to fall more steeply. Got to fall more steeply. Steeply. Yes. Well, it probably will, in fact, because , a lot of the, fact, because, a lot of the, the, the things that the government were doing wont click in till the beginning of this year. So for instance, where, where the, the fall has happened now thats 100,000 ukrainians and hong kongers who are no longer coming here. So thats the humanitarian route. The next stage will be students. I think this is the contentious one, because it was this government that encouraged students to come here because we wanted to fund our universities. Wanted to fund our universities. So the plan was 600,000 students by 2030. Were encouraging them by 2030. Were encouraging them by giving them work visas for a couple of years after they finished, after they graduated, allowing dependents to come in. Weve cancelled all that as a result, it looks as if tuition fees would have to start then going up, youve also got 4 in 10 of the of, the migrants on work visas are from india and nigeria, but theyre for, for the nhs and our care sector. So if you stop them coming, we have more problems. Again, with staff in hospitals and care homes. But we need to be recruiting. But we do need to be recruiting more home grown talent. More home grown talent. Lets do that. Lets do that. No thats fine. I mean, i mean, if the tories have got their act together and done just that, you wouldnt have needed these people to come in and fill these people to come in and fill the gaps. And that comes down the gaps. And that comes down ultimately to pay. Do we want to ultimately to pay. Do we want to pay ultimately to pay. Do we want to pay more for our care sector , pay more for our care sector, pay pay more for our care sector, pay more for our care sector, pay more for our care sector, pay more for the nhs . Well, thats going to be a popular policy though, isnt it . Because we had wes streeting talking about that the other day. The home grown talent thing, saying that a level students who have got all as are being rejected from medical School Places in favour of International Students because they are obviously paying more to go to universities. Yeah, and to go to universities. Yeah, and that shouldnt be the case. Im sure many people can agree with that, that teenagers who are succeeding at school and getting all as should be able to go to medical school if they want to. Absolutely. And i dont think there is anything wrong with wanting home grown talent to come through and work within the nhs. I think that we would all want to see that and kids that are working extremely hard at gcses and a levels to find that theyre not good enough when theyre not good enough when they have got a bunch of really good results. I find , good results. I find, astonishing that these universities will choose, and unfortunately they will then go and choose the people that pay more, and that shouldnt be how it works. A little bit lower down the scale in health care. Youve got a real problem with recruiting and retention of staff. So i can understand why we have been so reliant upon staff coming from overseas. But it shouldnt be the case that universities arent allowing our own children to go through if theyve worked extremely hard, theyre incredibly talented. They should be able to get those places. Places. Yeah, yeah, i have to say, i mean, i dont know how the system needs to be reformed, really , but i went to a the last really, but i went to a the last graduation i had, which was in 2016, 2017, and i think i was the only english person there really. I was getting a doctorate and everybody else was essentially chinese, really, in the entire graduation class. Yeah. But i think also thats got a lot to do with do people want to go and study . That takes an awful lot of dedication to go and study for a phd takes a lot of money, and some people dont have the funds to be able to do that and support themselves. So i can sort of understand it. I think that we need to look at funding for further education and Higher Education in this country. I dont think that weve got it right. I dont think it should be open to all the tony blair everybody should go to university thing didnt work. No. And has caused an work. No. And has caused an awful lot of this problem. But also i think equally the conservative party in fees that also needs to be addressed. Now we need to be able to look at how best we support our students. So the mistake was obviously relying on foreign students to keep universities going. Yeah and as i say, youll end up with with a problem with sorry though was that not because was that not a conservative issue . Yes. In that conservatives transformed all the polys to universities. Yes. But unfortunately it did start under tony blair with this whole everybody should have the opportunity to go. So a lot of polytechnics, old polytechnics took the view that they could become universities. So therefore they would get funding, they would get people coming in. But yes, essentially that was down to the conservative party allowing that to happen and opening up to foreign students. I mean, the issue is now that if you were to limit International Students, you are, of course, then passing on those fees to our our home grown talent. I mean, at the moment theyll shoot up. Yeah. At the moment the tuition cap is just below £10,000, if you cant fund it through foreign students, 4 in 10 students come from abroad. So if you couldnt fund it, the domestic students would end up having to pay more. Having to pay more. Well, unless you shut down a load of universities, well, thats the other. And discourage as many people from going and work on apprenticeships. Work on apprenticeships. I think apprenticeships are really the way apprenticeships are a good way. They are so are a good way. They are so overlooked and they often produce so many better results. People going into the workplace with actual skills, talent and Work Experience and they want to do it. How many people do we see going through University Spending 3 or 4 years having a great time coming out with a degree and debt and debt, but it doesnt lead them into a career and they dont entirely know what they want to do. Yeah there are so many of these verses with apprenticeships. I think we should be pushing those a lot more. And theres so many of these mickey mouse degrees now, arent there . Maybe, maybe we need to be looking at those, two important matters on in the sun. Nigel, im torn on this one because its about how much head on your pint. Yeah, well, apparently eight out of ten pubs are not serving. Are not serving it properly. So. So. Yeah, according to who . The drinkers know , this is actually drinkers know, this is actually according to the chartered Trading Standards Institute who should know what theyre talking about. They go around measuring the heads on your pint. Now, apparently its costing up to £114 a year for boozers , is what £114 a year for boozers, is what it doesnt say is quite how much dnnk it doesnt say is quite how much drink youve got to take to get to that £114. Yeah, quite a lot. Yeah, quite a lot. Yeah, quite a lot. Yeah. Well, i would have thought so, but, but, but eight out of ten pints are not, are not full up. Theres the same problem with wine and the argument is you should insist at the bar. Right. Could you just top up hard though, because like we see when i work down the boozer and you had tony, who owned the pub, and bill, his dad , who sort of managed it. Now bill would always say , now bill would always say, oh, theres too much head on that, too much head on that put a bit more beer in it. Tony would say, theres not enough head on that. Yeah, i mean, this this sort of cant win situation. You could not win. Depends on who was behind the bar with you at the time. But its also really difficult as a customer because you know that its not the fault of the person really behind the bar. They probably are working to the same rules as you were when you were pulling pints, and it is quite difficult. But as weve seen recently, its all right because the politicians are going to be in pubs pulling pints. Oh, arent they just be the next re Election Campaign . Theres always a photograph of a politician in a pub pulling a very bad pint, to be fair, a decent pint glass has got a pint line on it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, but as long as, as long as you bnng but as long as, as long as you bring it up to the pipeline, then you can have as much. But you have to be if youre the customer, you have to insist. Yeah. Yeah. Well thats fair enough. Thats fair enough. Never normally backwards in coming forwards are they. Somebody. Theyre waiting for their pint. Well especially not a regular. Yeah. If youve got, if youre down your local then youre down your local then youre going to youre its going to be right isnt it. Its going to be right isnt it. Its going to be are you. Yeah. If you know the people there then itll be fine. Its going into a pub youve never been into before or and trying to insist, you know, sort of reaction you can get when youre trying to insist on a full pint. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To get the silence that comes across the bar and everybody looks at you. Yeah. Itll be one of those moments. Love it. Love it. That was absolutely brilliant. Love that it takes me back. I brilliant. Love that it takes me back. I used to love working behind the bar. Oh, its great fun, i love it. I think you learn a lot. I really think Everybody Needs to be able to do that because you do learn a lot about sort of just individual behaviour. Yeah, yeah, i, i spilt more beer than i served. Beer than i served. You did. Yeah. Weve all been there. There. Great. Great. Thank you. Thank you very much indeed. Good to see you both. Lets take a look at the weather now, shall we . With annie shuttleworth. A brighter outlook with boxt solar. Sponsors of weather on. Solar. Sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Good morning. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. Its a bit of a cloudy start for many of us. There will be some sunshine later on across southern areas, but further rain is to come across the north after a very wet few days here. However, having said that, it is going to be drier than it has been lately, but some drizzly rain will continue. Its an area of frontal systems wrapped around this area of low pressure here in the north sea. To the south, though, were well away from that low pressure system, so well see some brightness. The best of the sunshine will likely be across parts of south wales , the southeast as well, wales, the southeast as well, but there could be a few showers here and there, temperatures just about climbing to 20 degrees in the south. But for most of us, there will be a little below par for the time of yean little below par for the time of year, and it will feel fairly coolif year, and it will feel fairly cool if youre exposed to an onshore breeze in the north as well. That clearer, those well. That clearer, those clearer skies will become a bit more widespread throughout this evening, so a fairly fine end to the working week for many southern counties this evening. Cloudier skies further north with some drizzly rain, particularly across parts of Northern Ireland. Much of scotland as well on the coast and over the high ground, is where the rain is most likely and we will see some breezy. Some stronger winds up towards the Northern Isles as well. It will turn drier as the night goes on, as that area of low pressure pushes away to the north, so clearer skies will become more widely seen throughout the night, covering much of england and wales through the night and into southern scotland by the morning, we could see some mist and fog developing as well across southern counties because the ground is fairly wet, that should clear up quite quickly through saturday morning, but it will be a fresher start to the day. Temperatures in the mid single figures for some of us, so a slightly fresher start to the day. But there will be more sunshine around. Certainly and saturday is looking like the most dry and warmest day of the Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us should see plenty of sunshine and dry weather as well. However, as the afternoon goes on, we could see some heavier showers encroaching into northeastern england, southeastern scotland. But as i said, most of us should stay dry and in the best of the sunshine, highs of 22 degrees in the south and the high teens in the north. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Way. Good morning to you. Its 7 00 on friday. The 24th of may. Today, the Prime Minister claims his labour counterpart doesnt have the courage to debate him , have the courage to debate him, as he has no plans for the country. Country. Yes. Rishi sunak has challenged keir starmer to not one but six tv debates over the course of the election. Will this strategy pay off . Find out more with me very soon. A new poll reveals that reform could pose a threat to 28 tory seats. Thats as a Record Number of conservative mps are set to stand down. Nigel farage says the tories called a summer election over fears that he would stand as an mp. I had, be honest with you, put in place some preparations to launch next week. To launch next week. 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Its a bit of a cooler day for most of us today , cooler day for most of us today, but how are things shaping up for the Bank Holiday Weekend . Find out all the details with me a little later on shapps ella toone morning to you. Im Stephen Dixon and im ellie costello, and this is breakfast on. Breakfast on. Gb news. Lots on pint glasses this morning. Im glad youre emailing in a knew youd get them going on that, because its better than talking about politics and all the views as well. Quite frankly , andy linton well. Quite frankly, andy linton says pint glasses with a line on were created for use with the automated half pint dispensers. Ive never seen an automated half pint dispensers. At most, branded glasses are a pint to the brim. Oh well, thats no good because you do want a head on your pint, especially with an ale. Youve got a decent head on it. Its quite nice. Its adds to the. It adds to the experience. Sipping through the froth. Do you think . Yeah, i cant really relate because im not a pint drinker. I can imagine you with a pint of stout in front of you. No, no, no, i did have a guinness once. Right. If that counts. Yes. In the Guinness Storehouse in dublin and, it was quite nice, actually. It took me about two hours to drink it. Its quite heavy, it gets heavy. Its quite heavy, it gets heavy. Its like a meal. Its like a meal. Its like a meal. I like this one, darren johnson. Hi. Darren says when i got a big head on a pint, id always say to the bar staff are the vicars in because ive found his collar. Oh, very good, very good. Oh, very good, very good. Im liking that one. Im liking that one. Jason gale says the dutch just scoop the top off the pint and then theres no arguments. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Is that when you knife it off . Is that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah , yeah. But youve still got a good head underneath the glass anyway, its. Well i can see well be going down the boozer after this and well. Oh we will. Oh we will. This is what happens. We talk about fish and chips or having a dnnk about fish and chips or having a drink on the breakfast show. And i just have to go home drink on the breakfast show. And ijust have to go home and have i just have to go home and have fish and chips or have a drink. So what happens on this channel. So you know what shes going to be like by lunchtime . Yes. Yes. All right. Lets crack on with the politics then. And the Prime Minister has launched the opening gambit of his election or this election, accusing his opposite number of lacking the courage to debate him. Rishi sunak wants to debate sir keir starmer every week in the run up to voting day. This comes as a survey shows that the reform uk party are threatening 28 conservative seats across the country. Lets talk to our Political Correspondent olivia utley , correspondent olivia utley, whos in westminster for us this morning , its an interesting morning, its an interesting line from number 10 about the debates, olivia, isnt it, because , i mean, theyre clearly because, i mean, theyre clearly trying to put keir starmer on the back foot. The back foot. Definitely. Whether it will be sort of practically possible to have a debate every single week of the Election Campaign remains to be seen. Obviously, remains to be seen. Obviously, the Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition will be up and down the country, running around the place, getting them in the same place at the same time will be quite hard. Its an interesting message, though, that rishi sunak is giving here. He wants to make this election president ial. He wants it to be about rishi sunak versus keir starmer rather than about the conservative versus labour. Now you can see the logic in that. Obviously the conservatives are about 20 points behind in the polls and no , party has ever polls and no, party has ever made up a 20 point poll gap in the history of british election. The history of british election. But keir starmer is actually slightly less popular than the labour Party Overall. So if he can make it about starmer, the man, rather than labour, the party, he thinks he has a better chance of success. That said , chance of success. That said, sunak himself has incredibly low popularity ratings. Yes, he was popularity ratings. Yes, he was popular during the covid period and he was tried to sort of hark back to that in that disastrous speech he did in downing street in the rain. But these days his popularity is lower than Boris Johnsons ever was , for example, johnsons ever was, for example, a little bit higher than liz truss, but lower than johnson. Cameron, callaghan. Thatcher. Cameron, callaghan. Thatcher. Even right at the end of her time in office. So the idea that he is on safer territory, fighting starmer on a personal level, might he it might be something that he comes to regret as for the content of these election debates, it sounds as though rishi sunak wants to make it all about the economy and immigration. On the economy. Hes on sort of middling ground. Yes, he can say that inflation has fallen. Its now 2. 3, down from 11 in october 2022. But growth Something Else which he promised to get going in that in that now sort of infamous five pledges speech last january, growth isnt very impressive at all, actually, gdp per capita, which is what most economists use to show a countrys level of growth, is stagnating and is actually in some cases, falling. Although the country is technically no longer in recession, so its not the strongest ground with which to be fighting. Keir starmer. Strongest ground with which to be fighting. Keir starmer. As be fighting. Keir starmer. As for immigration, yes, theres an argument that labours plan for solving illegal migration is a little bit thin on the bones. Yvette cooper sometimes sounds like shes dodging and evading questions when it comes to what would happen to migrants who come over here illegally under a Labour Government. But of course, rishi sunak can hardly say that hes stopped the boats. In fact, boat numbers are up, so thats what hes going to try and make this election. These debates about. But i think keir starmer might be only too willing to go to the fight. Okay, olivia, thank you. Okay, olivia, thank you. Okay, olivia, thank you. Well, lets speak to former chief secretary to the treasury david mellor , who joins us in david mellor, who joins us in the studio now. Good to see you, david, were you caught off guard . Were you surprised by the 4th of july election . Nothing surprises me anymore. Nothing surprises me anymore. No, nothing surprises me anymore because i just feel theres desperation in the air. You know . Its like watching some poor animal being steadily trapped and driven into an impossible situation. I mean, impossible situation. I mean, what is sunak doing . Getting on his knees and begging to have debates against the leader of the opposition . Thats not what the opposition . Thats not what Prime Ministers are supposed to do. Look, i like sunak. I think hes a very gifted man. I think hes a very gifted man. I think hes a very gifted man. I think hes a nice man. But something sums up where the tory party are at the moment and it was him getting soaked. No one thought to give him an umbrella. Well, hes spoken, spoken about that. Have you heard what he had to say . He said he believes. Do i need this information . I think its very interesting because a lot of people are saying, look, he should have had a brolly and theyre poking fun at him. He said, i believe in the Great British tradition of going out and standing on the steps of downing street and making an announcement, come wind or shine or rain or whatever the weather is doing that day. Most people do have an umbrella. I just think he looked ridiculous. I say, dont i have to say that . Didnt bother me. I just thought it was going. I just thought it was going. I just thought he was getting on with it. But in terms of where we are, is this a walk in the park for the labour party . No, no, this is this is the words of comfort i bring from beyond the grave. Because i lost my seat in 1997 and, the tories actually were in a very good position then , but because the, the then, but because the, the economy was doing well and so on. But there was something about tony blair, he just seemed unbeatable and what do you know, he was unbeatable. I mean, starmers nothing like tony blair. Theres no excitement and enthusiasm is there, that there especially not like it was in 1997. Its a sort of greasy haired lawyer. You know, i know about greasy haired lawyers. I was one myself. Yeah, and you know whats a greasy haired lawyer . Always a greasy haired lawyer. You never entirely shake it off. But i think the i think the problem , though, for the the problem, though, for the tories is sunak hasnt got. Theres no showbiz there. He theres no showbiz there. He needs to be able to go out and command the situation. But i think if hed asked me and by the way, he didnt. But if hed asked me, what should i do . Id have said, just get it over with, shock them, do something. They think youre youre youre scared of an election. Well scared of an election. Well show to them that youre not. And it cant be any worse. And and it cant be any worse. And of course, it could be quite different. You see, when you know theres a lot of loose cannons on the labour frontbench and starmer is unexciting , you and starmer is unexciting, you know, there are, there are, there are the trouble with starmer. Hes a bit like every lawyer that ive ever met. They argue one case, but if youd ask them to argue the opposite case, they do so provided the money was right. And i tell you, i dont think that starmer carries very little in the way of conviction. And hes , you know, conviction. And hes, you know, it. The problem for starmer is that he doesnt excite people. That he doesnt excite people. You see tony blair excited people, you know. Well he did he did Boris Johnson excited people. To be johnson excited people. To be fair, lets keep this a clean conversation. Well, no , but he did. He did. Well, no, but he did. He did. But shouldnt this election be about policy and not about personality . Yeah, thats what we all say. But of course, the answer is you cannot get rid of personality. Cannot get rid of personality. And if you do get rid of personality out of politics, all you do is drive more people away because people say all kinds of high minded things. But what they want is something that will excite them, something that will bnng excite them, something that will bring a smile to their face, something that will make them turn on the telly instead of turning it off. Yeah, yeah, its a fair point. David, good to see you. Thank you very much indeed. Can i just say before we say bye to you, that people are very pleased to see you back, mr mellor. Jean abbott says nice to see david mellor back. And wilhelmina graham says what a lovely surprise to see david mellor. You have been missed. Well, so i shall go away and shed a tear in a corner and know that it aint all over yet. Its not over yet, david. No to good see you. Right. Lets get a more labour perspective on this with political commentator andy williams. Andy, good andy williams. Andy, good morning to you. Youll have heard david mellor there, loose cannons on the labour front bench. Cannons on the labour front bench. Keir starmers unexciting bench. Keir starmers unexciting no real convictions. Hes hes no real convictions. Hes hes got a lot to battle against. If hes going to win over those floating voters. Look i dont think this is going to be an easy election for laboun going to be an easy election for labour. I know theyre miles aheadin labour. I know theyre miles ahead in the polls, and i do think they will win a majority. He obviously has 14 years of, conservative party chaos and failure on his side. I also think , by the way, that rishi think, by the way, that rishi sunak will prove himself to be a really poor campaigner. He is not somebody who is comfortable going out there and speaking to normal people. We saw that normal people. We saw that yesterday. I think people will warm to keir starmer in this campaign. I actually think the labour front bench is incredibly united. I think theyre all on the same page. I think this will the same page. I think this will be a disciplined campaign. I think it could be very Boring Campaign because actually, to the point about tv debates, what does keir starmer have to lose . Its about shutting up shop and running a smart, sensible, disciplined campaign. Disciplined campaign. The labour party have a lot to do, though, dont they . In six short weeks theyve got those six pledges last week, but theres no meat on the bone with them just yet. Theres no sign of a manifesto, even though were told that it will come in the next few weeks and theres a number of seats with no candidate selected. Candidate selected. Well, theres been a lot of work done behind the scenes on the manifesto that is nearly ready, and im confident that it will be a lot more comprehensive than what weve seen so far. I think it will be very detailed in terms of candidates. The tories actually have more seats to fill than labour, so yes , to fill than labour, so yes, labour have been caught on the hop a little bit by this, but the conservatives have a lot of work to do as well. There will be vetting going on furiously on both sides. I think , you know, both sides. I think, you know, labour does remain a bit of a blank canvas. That is a risk. Of course, people do want to see more, but the reality is this election is a referendum on the conservatives and their 14 years in power. Its a referendum on rishi sunaks record as well. Hes broken four of his five pledges, four out of five. He has no legacy. Not one single flights gone to rwanda. He hasnt even got his legacy smoking bill through. So actually, i think the public will look at this and say, im not too bothered about keir starmer. I just want rid of rishi sunak and the tories. Yeah. Well thats i mean, and i understand what youre saying, but heck , thats no way for but heck, thats no way for britain to be in 2024. Is it fair to say people arent bothered about keir starmer, the man could be our next Prime Minister. We should be bothered by him. We should be enthused by the person whos leading our country, or at least wants to lead our country. Well, in an ideal world we would be. And as i said, i think people will warm to him over time, but i dont. I just have time, but i dont. Ijust have to be honest. I dont believe to be honest. I dont believe people are going to get very excited about this particular individual, but i dont think people are very excited about rishi sunak either , and i dont rishi sunak either, and i dont think they were in the first place and he didnt win a general election to become Prime Minister. I would say weve tried a bit of excitement. Boris johnson was pretty exciting. He was a disaster. Liz truss was kind of exciting in a crackers way. And look how that turned way. And look how that turned out. You know, actually sensible, managerial, intelligent , thoughtful, intelligent, thoughtful, empathetic. Those are all good qualities. You dont have to be qualities. You dont have to be the most the loudest person in the most the loudest person in the room. The room. Okay. Andy williams, thank you very much for your time this morning. Good to see you. Morning. Good to see you. Now earlier on we talked to reforms deputy leader, ben habib. The way the conservative party will wish to spin this whole election is who do you want to vote against . But if you want to change the country for the better, if you want a change in direction in the way the country is governed, youve got to decide who you wish to vote for, not who you wish to vote for, not who you wish to vote against. And actually, the only change on offer on on the ticket is from reform uk. If you look at conservative party policy, the way its played out , their high way its played out, their high taxation, big borrowing, big state intervention in high immigration, net zero and labour are that plus a bit more all on the same, all on you know all in the same, all on you know all in the same, all on you know all in the same direction. Whereas the same direction. Whereas reform uk stands 180 degrees against virtually every single thing i just said. So you know, if people want a change in the way the country is governed, theyve got to vote for it. And thats the challenge were going to have, is getting people out who would otherwise be disillusioned with politics, disillusioned with politics, disillusioned with politics, disillusioned with small c conservatism because even though they want it, no party is prepared to offer it. We need to get them off their sofas into the polling booths on the 4th of july. Voting for reform uk look, want to ask you. Oh wow, that was us speaking to ben habib a little bit earlier on in the programme. Now, Emergency Services have reported at least four people have been killed, 16 injured after a building collapsed on a beach in majorca. Yes, the beach in majorca. Yes, the building gave way at 8 30 pm. Local time on thursday. Reports indicate that the first floor collapsed onto the ground floor, trapping diners. No british casualties have been reported so far. Far. Following this is our reporter, charlie peters. Morning, charlie. So what do we know at this stage . Well, as we speak, concrete and masonry are being removed from the scene as Emergency Services worked through the night to try and recover some of those trapped in the rubble , as those trapped in the rubble, as you say, 16 injured, known at this time, seven of them in a critical condition. And initial reports suggested that a terrace hanging over the front of the restaurant collapsed at about 840 local time last night, and has actually gone into the basement of the building. Those are the initial reports. No official confirmation , of official confirmation, of course, on the cause of the collapse, although there were no adverse weather effects taking place yesterday and there isnt a recent pattern of collapses on the island, the last reports of building collapses a few years ago, and they were much older. Buildings but this building, the Medusa Beach Club, it did open this new terrace on wednesday, according to its instagram page. This is a very recent addition to the building, an initial reports from witnesses at the scene suggest that it was extremely busy last night, 8 40 pm, in the swing of its usual evening service. And of course, majorca is an extremely popular tourist destination. Some 17 Million People visited it last yean Million People visited it last year, most of them german. The second biggest tourist market was britain, and then after that, internal travel from the rest of spain to the archipelago. So its a dire situation, an Emergency Services are actually pleading with locals on the ground last night to remain silent so they could listen for sounds of life within the rubble. So it would have been an appalling scene to witness. Total silence as dust and that concrete and masonry was removed with firefighters and ambulances working through the night. As we understand it, every single available ambulance on the island was dispatched to the scene after 9 pm. By the time the whole island Emergency Services were alerted. So really desperate scenes there as we stand. Four dead so far, no confirmation on their identities, but local media report does suggest that three of them are women. One of them is a man, and two are workers at the beach club itself. But well wait for official confirmation and for more details on those injured in this appalling situation. Okay, charlie peters, thank you for that update. Oh, just terrific, isnt it . Terrific, isnt it . Thoroughly depressing. And weve probably all been to sort of bars and things a bit like that when you go on the continent, some of them never look that safe. No. Look that safe. No. Do they. Youd never think of it. Yeah. Youd never, ever think of it would you. Awful. Oh dear me. Right. Okay. Lets see what the weathers going to do for you today. Heres annie. Heres annie. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Good morning. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. Its a bit of a cloudy start for many of us. There will be some sunshine later on across southern areas, but further rain is to come across the north after a very wet few days here. However, having said that, it is going to be drier than it has been lately, but some drizzly rain will continue. Its an area of frontal systems wrapped around this area of low pressure here in the north sea to the south, though, were well away from that low pressure system, so well see some brightness. The best of the sunshine will likely be across parts of south wales, the southeast as well, but there could be a few showers here and there. Temperatures just about climbing to 20 degrees in the south. But for most of us there will be a little below par for the time of year and it will feel fairly coolif year and it will feel fairly cool if youre exposed to an onshore breeze in the north as well. That clear those clearer skies will become a bit more widespread throughout this evening, so a fairly fine end to the working week for many southern counties this evening. Cloudier skies further north with some drizzly rain, particularly across parts of Northern Ireland. Much of scotland as well on the coast and over the high ground, is where the rain is most likely and we will see some breezy. Some stronger winds up towards the Northern Isles as well. It will turn drier as the night goes on, as that area of low pressure pushes away to the north, so clearer skies will become more widely seen throughout the night, covering much of england and wales through the night and into southern scotland by the morning. We could see some mist and fog developing as well across southern counties, because the ground is fairly wet, that should clear up quite quickly through saturday morning. But it will be a fresher start to the day. Temperatures in the mid single figures for some of us, so a slightly fresher start to the day. But there will be more sunshine around certainly. And saturday is looking like the most dry and warmest day of the Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us should see plenty of sunshine and dry weather as well. And dry weather as well. 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Please check the closing time if listening or watching on demand. Good luck. Watching on demand. Good luck. Do stay with us. We are going to be speaking to the lib dems. Local Government Spokesperson helen morgan. Thats next. Its. What is it . Its 727. Good morning to you. So i just have to focus. Youre like, this is. Youre like, this is. This is the very vocal thing. You know what its like, 727. Good morning to you. Now, the lib dems are pledging to give patients the right to see a gp within seven days, or just 24 within seven days, orjust 24 hours for an urgent call. Well, they would do this by recruiting 8000 more gps, which would enable an extra 65 million appointments a year. Lets talk to the lib dems. Local government spokeswoman helen morgan , who joins us now. Helen morgan, who joins us now. Great to see you this morning and good morning. Im slightly intrigued. Tell me how this works in the sense that ed davey, when all this sort of happened on wednesday night, ed davey made a great speech, but sort of saying that acknowledging that you werent going to get into government, you werent going to be the largest party. So why then launch plans indicating what you would do if you were in government . Well, i think weve always been able to influence the agenda, even though were not particularly big party. So if you look, for example, at the windfall tax , we started calling windfall tax, we started calling for one of those in october 21st to help people out with their energy bills, but later became labour policy and then that became government policy. So its really, really important to set the agenda. And we have proved that we can be effective in coming up with really good ideas that make peoples lives better and getting government to run with them. Ultimately what about this plan, though . The right for patients to see a gp within seven days, which is going to be at the heart of the liberal democrats election offer . It doesnt sound very good, does it . I mean, if you are sick , you can see a doctor are sick, you can see a doctor in a weeks time. Youll be over your sickness by then, wouldnt you . Well, urgent appointments would have a right within 24 hours. So obviously people who are really, really poorly need to see their gp straight away. And thats enshrined in this plan as well. But at the moment, if your issue is non urgent, you know, lots of people are waiting over two weeks. Ive just waited over two weeks. Ive just waited over five, here in shropshire. So there are a lot of people who would really benefit from this right . To see to see their gp right . To see to see their gp within a week. And i think its really important to have a High Standard to work to, so that people can feel confident that they are going to be seen, that theyre going to be able to get back to work and that theyre going to be able to continue with their life as normal, because as and its a perfectly valid point you make saying, well, you know, you can you can influence government, you can influence government, you can influence opposition. And theres a lot to be said for that , but because, you know, for that, but because, you know, youre doing it from the outside , if you like, does that mean that youve not had to overly focus on the funding for this . Because obviously funding for what is it, 8000 more gps within the next five years . I mean, its a big ask it is a big ask. We think its going to cost about £4 billion over five years, but we will have a fully costed manifesto, ready to go when our manifesto launches , and when our manifesto launches, and well definitely be able to find a way to fund this. Weve already come up with lots of ideas that would enable us to do better on Public Services without hurting hard working people and their families. So, for example, reversing the banking surcharge, reversing the levy, closing the gap on an uncollected tax, there are lots of Different Things we could do and we will have a properly costed manifesto in due course. Costed manifesto in due course. Weve been talking about the election debates this morning. Theres talk of rishi sunak and sir keir starmer potentially doing up to six debates before the election. Thats what rishi sunak would like to do, at least anyway. Would ed davey like to be a part of these election debates . And do you think reform should share the stage as well . Should share the stage as well . Well, im sure i would love to be part of those election debates. I think its really important for voters to be able to hear from all of the major parties, because theyre going to have all of those candidates on their ballot paper. So i would like to see properly balanced election debates. You know, with, with full representation on them. Representation on them. Well, i mean, we had that a few years ago, if youre i cant remember now, if it was wasnt 2019, it might have been 2017, might have been 2015, but it turned into a bit of a free for all. There were so many people on the stage. I wonder if that is that beneficial to the viewers , to the voters watching that . Well, i think they need to be well chaired and well managed, and theres all sorts of different formats you can use. We dont want to see people talking over each other. Its awful, but clearly, you know, people go to the ballot paper, the ballot box, theyve probably got a choice of 4 or 5 candidates from major well recognised parties, and i think they need to be able to hear from those candidates , from hear from those candidates, from those leaders. I wanted to ask you about a yougov poll out this morning. The reform could threaten 28 tory seats in the country. How tory seats in the country. How does that make you feel . As up until now , the third biggest until now, the third Biggest Party in this country, you were until very recently the biggest threat to the tories . For people that wanted to vote for the tories would be voters that couldnt bring themselves to vote labour, have they made you redundant as a party . Well absolutely not. I mean, if we look at the local elections that just happened in may, we beat the tories, we got more councillors elected than the tories and reform got two. I think. So you know, its all think. So you know, its all very well having polling that says youre going to do very well. But the reality is reform have never performed at the ballot box and all its sort of various predecessors in their different forms have only ever had 1 or 2 mps elected. And those have been well established conservatives who have, defected. So i dont think thats going to be a threat in reality when it comes to election day, because they havent got any track record of performing at the ballot box, lib dems have always been very, very good at local campaigning. Its why its why you do well at local elections. I mean, its been known for generations now. Is it a deliberate change of tactic this time round that youve youve essentially said, look, were focusing on about 80 seats that we, that we think we can we can win, is that a change of tactic . Is that saying , yes, of tactic . Is that saying, yes, stick with the sort of local campaigning issues because thats where were good. Well, obviously we have to channel our resources into the seats where we think we can win, where a real threat to the conservatives across a number of different seats, whether thats in the blue wall in the southwest, in rural seats like mine in shropshire, so obviously were going to focus our efforts where we think we can win and we do work hard as mps. You know, we are we do consider ourselves to be local champions, listening to be local champions, listening to the people who live in our area and making sure were following up on their issues. But we do have a consistent message across all of those places , because the issues that places, because the issues that matter to people most are fairly consistent , matter to people most are fairly consistent, and that is health care. Being unable to see a gp, having an awful wait for an ambulance or in a e. Its the cost of living. So a lot of people are struggling to make ends meet, struggling with their mortgage bills which definitely arent coming down, and struggling with their energy bills. And then we see people worried about the environment that they live in. So the quality of the water that theyre drinking and the, the, you know, the scandal of the sewage thats pouring into their rivers and seas. So its a consistent message across all of those seats that were fighting. And its something that is offered to everybody , every offered to everybody, every everybody will have an opportunity to vote for a liberal democrat candidate , but liberal democrat candidate, but obviously well be putting our resources into the places where we think we can make a real indentation and win the seat. Indentation and win the seat. Okay. Helen morgan, good to see you this morning. Thanks very much indeed. Thanks very much. Thanks very much. I just think its very interesting. Its the first time that i interesting. Its the first time thati can interesting. Its the first time that i can remember where certainly the liberal democrats and were also seeing it from reform as well, are going into an election and not saying they can win. Yeah. I mean, sort of saying we dont expect to win, but we just want to have seats. But we just want to have seats. We just want to have some seats and have some influence. Yeah and thats an interesting shift. I think whether it will make a difference because then perhaps people say, well, look, this is what im voting for. An mp rather than for a Prime Minister which is what a lot of people do. Maybe thats a significant change. Itd be interesting to see if it works or not. Its interesting, isnt it . And it is interesting to note as well that every time that weve spoken to the lib dems, by that i mean yesterday and today, talk of ed davey. Is that going to be a massive distraction . His role in the post Office Scandal . I can see loads of emails coming through, so let us know what you think about that. Gbnews. Com yoursay okay, weve got the sport its sports time. You okay . Its sports time. You okay . Yes. I was its sports time. You okay . Yes. I was just going. You do this bit. Thats what that was. I was like, yes , its sports time with like, yes, its sports time with paul coyte. Whos here with us . Good morning. Good morning. Shall we talk about Lucas Paqueta . What is that smile. Really . Its lovely. Thank you, but it its lovely. Thank you, but it worries me. Paqueta. Yes, yes. Paqueta. Yes, yes. Lucas paqueta. You know, this Lucas Paqueta. You know, this is a worry. Gambling in football is a worry. Gambling in football is a worry. Gambling in football is a huge worry. It goes back years, back to the old days. And you think of stan bowles back in the 70s. They used to play for queens park rangers. And before hed go out on the pitch, hed go to the betting shop and have a few quid on the game and come back again. Obviously its banned. You cant gamble on football if youre involved in the game because was for obvious reasons. You may be able to affect things, there are some players weve seen already where weve had some problems. Ivan weve had some problems. Ivan toney and sandro tonali for newcastle , who ended up with newcastle, who ended up with huge bans, but at the moment were looking at Lucas Paqueta. Were looking at Lucas Paqueta. Now, you know the story about Lucas Paqueta, dont you . It was about yellow cards, wasnt it . Charged by the fa for allegedly getting booked deliberately for the improper purpose of affecting the betting market . So basically he has got yellow cards and they were very questionable. And people are questionable. And people are wondering whether actually hes done this on purpose because other people are betting on what hes doing. Are you okay . Youre hes doing. Are you okay . Youre not, are you . Not, are you . No im not. No im not. Im having a turn. Okay im having a turn. Okay so you talk about you talk about four games investigated. Was this me this time . No. Its not. You sure its not me . Are you sure its not me . Are you sure its not me . It really isnt. It really isnt. You. Its our sheer unprofessionalism. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Your professionalism just carrying on. Yes. Im trying my very best. Impressive you could only see what i could see right now. Oh, i do apologise. Oh, i do apologise. Four games investigated. Anyway, Lucas Paqueta has said hes extremely surprised and upset by the verdict, so we will have to see and watch this space. Well, if it is proven, if its proven that hes actually been doing this on purpose, theres one thing banning someone for a year. But whereas youve had players that have been banned for actually making bets which havent affected what theyve been involved in and what theyve seen with him, its completely the other story. So basically its the end of the line. It should be the end of the line if well see what happens to pass. Yes, theres a big move to man city and thats certainly going to be off now. Should we talk about luke littler . Oh, lets continue his astonishing rise. His astonishing rise continues. Correct. Premier continues. Correct. Premier league darts final 14,000 fans at the o2. League darts final 14,000 fans at the 02. There he is. Thats Luke Humphries in the background. Thats just about to throw his nine dart finish. Look at the excitement on his face. Good lad. Look at that lad. 17 good lad. Look at that lad. 17 years old loving every minute of it. This is straight after the nine dart finish. Girlfriend friend there. Shes giving him a big kiss because shes just seen the check for 275. Yes, thats coming his way. Shes hoping for a ring. Shes hoping for a ring. Yes. Yes. Well, im sure itll be a nice one as well. 200 grand he won for the World Championships, all at 17. And he star continues to rise. Yeah, good on him. And when you hear an interview, he seems very down to earth, which like. He. Does he see these. He. Does he see these. So i hope he stays. Yeah. So i hope he stays. Yeah. So i hope he stays. Yeah. Grounded. Grounded. Grounded. Well this is the point isnt it . Ive seen it. Whether it be it . Ive seen it. Whether it be sports, music, anybody. They get sports, music, anybody. They get there. Very lovely. Get the first taste of it and then you get all a little bit big for your boots and then get over the hill. So hopefully people will keep him grounded. Its all about the family around him. Yeah, its true. Family around, Luke Hamilton , lewis around, Luke Hamilton, lewis hamilton, even watchdog which. Well, we had Lucas Paqueta , well, we had Lucas Paqueta, we had luke littler and Luke Hamilton. You can be forgiven. Its you can be forgiven. Its a bit confusing. Yeah, theres too many lukes, arent there . Lewis hamilton has no sorry. Are you sorry . No, im just getting out. No, im just getting out. Im just getting out the shot how. Now. Oh. Oh. Its embarrassed you do this. Its embarrassed you do this. Its embarrassed you do this. You embarrassed lewis. You embarrassed lewis. Come on. Its okay. Look at his little head. Look at his little head. Can you just bear with me a second, listen, its all right. Dont worry. Its okay. Up you come. Its okay. Up you come. Everybody calls him luke. From time to time. It happens to everyone. So i dont know anything about sport. Oh, i know, i think you do a great job. Well , lets forget about well, lets forget about lewis. Oh, no. No, ive had it. Now give us a bit. Oh, dont throw a strop there. Its the monaco grand prix, for crying out loud. I know, but well talk about later. What about the olympic podium . Right. Right. The olympic podium. You know, i dont know whether you get the idea that i love the olympics and i love olympic stuff. You do. And weve done the medals. Weve been doing the torch. Now look at the. This is the podium. The podium has been unveiled. Well, i was stood there not very long ago. There we are. There we are. And you know what they are, by the way, those those mascots, you know what theyre supposed to be. They look like sweets. Theyre actually hats. Oh, theyre fridge. Thats not as fun as sweets. Thats not as fun as sweets. Theyre the symbols of freedom of france. And theyre sort of like walking hats. But you know , you should have the you know, you should have the first, second and third, three different levels. But youve got the gold medal in the middle, the gold medal in the middle, the two, the silver and the bronze are exactly the same either side. But there we are. I just thought id let you as as these things are being drip fed from paris, i thought id show you. Yeah. Lovely. Its nice to see it, but youre across it as always. Im always, always across it. Im always, always across it. Im always, always across it. Yeah. Nice. Are those medals . Yeah. Nice. Are those medals . Youre gonna be able to walk with one of them around your neck. I know, but thats what you want. You want a great big medal . Little tiny weeny medals like that. Nice medal. Thats what you want with a little bit of eiffel tower in them, you know. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Very good. Yeah yeah, yeah. Very good. Yeah coity. Thank you. Yes. Thank you, also, you might want to clarify who luke littler is kissing. Apparently, nick f has kissing. Apparently, nick f has beenin kissing. Apparently, nick f has been in touch saying that was his mum. That was his mum. Yeah, well, the thing is, im seeing a young lady there and obviously when hes 17, his lady there and obviously when hes17, his mums probably very young. Will probably be much younger than i am. So thats probably why i apologise. Is that, is that that so apparently the girlfriends in the background. Thats the mum. Thats the mum. And who are those fellows in the. Well thats more important. Well thats more important. Who are they . Who are they . The oompa loompas. The oompa loompas. There he is looking very happy. Well done luke. Well good night lewis or wherever you are. Night lewis or wherever you are. Shut up. Sorry. Thats it. Stan wont be. Koichi, do you stay with us . Yes. Well be going through the papers, wont we . Nigel nelson and Claire Pearsall. Thats next. All right. Its time to have a look at the newspapers for you. This morning. And joining us today, our senior political commentator, nigel nelson. And former government adviser Claire Pearsall. Morning to you both. Pearsall. Morning to you both. Nigel, can we look at the times and the china taiwan situation . Yeah its sort of a conflict. We tend to forget what was in ukraine going on and whats happening in gaza. And of happening in gaza. And of course, this is the next potential flashpoint in the world. And it would be probably much more serious than both. What has happened is that taiwan has a new, new president , president ly, and hes been making some sort of noises about, sovereignty for taiwan and the age old problem. China claims taiwan and taiwan says it should be independent, which it is at the moment, so the chinese respond by launching a rather threatening military exercise , threatening military exercise, rise, and taiwan, of course. Then launches back. And so they put sort of war planes in the air. They sent in the navy, the army were put on alert. Nobody was actually shooting at anybody. But it was that sort of feeling that the tensions were there, and its just it is an ongoing, difficult one. If this ongoing, difficult one. If this one ever did kick off, america would come in on taiwan side and we really would be in trouble. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, its just its one of these problems which has been sort of bubbling away for so many years now. And we, we, we all over here, we forget it. It happens. It happens. We two china issue. We two china issue. Well this is it , we two china issue. Well this is it, well they want it to be one china. And i think there therein lies half the problem is that taiwan is itself a sovereign place, sovereign territory. Thats how sovereign territory. Thats how it looks in china. Whenever they take offence , china then like to take offence, china then like to park ships around , taiwan and park ships around, taiwan and surrounding islands, its a show of strength. Its a show of intimidation. And as nigel said, intimidation. And as nigel said, im not sure that we will see it kick off, because a lot of this is almost , we kick off, because a lot of this is almost, we can do it if we want. Isnt it . Isnt it . It is. It is a little bit of political posturing and it was the same nancy pelosi when she was speaker, came over to taiwan, and the chinese didnt take kindly to that and did another show of parking ships off the coast and looking like they were ready for war. So anything that upsets them, they tend to retaliate in that manner. No shots have been fired, but it is a worry. And i think a new president is always going to be of concern to china, especially when they want to exert the right of taiwan to exist in its own entity and not be consumed by china. Claire, lets stay with you, shall we . And look at the star front page. Now, if youre a journalist, lots of us. Me included, have had to cancel holidays to be here for the general election. But not the same. If youre a member of the Great British public, holiday bookings are up. People are escaping the general Election Campaign chaos. And this is quite interesting, there was a 57 increase in people looking for holidays. As soon as rishi sunak announced the 4th of july date, people are either looking to escape. Actually, on the 4th of july to get out, of polling day. And they want to leave the country and people are looking now at dates around that to avoid what is going to be a lengthy six weeks now for us. We live it. We have little choice but to be here, and cancel our houday. Holiday. Have you cancelled yours . Have you cancelled yours . Well it was we were doing a little break in the middle of june. Thats now not happening. But our major holiday, funnily enough, was booked for the 7th of july, so well be off out of the country at that point to recover. You see, i was looking at flights last night, so would i fall into these statistics . But its only because we now know when the date is. Yeah, yeah. That we can plan can plan it. Well this is it. But a lot of people are taking it as we want to be out of the country, because we cant bear to listen to politicians having a go at each other for six weeks. And in some respects, you cant blame them for that. But for the rest of us, no, we have to be here andifs of us, no, we have to be here and its our job to report. And and its ourjob to report. And we do. I will get over my denial we do. I will get over my denial of the election coming up, because i have to go out there and deliver leaflets and speak to people and be on the campaign trail, which is a little bit different, yes. Interesting. Its always interesting. You always meet some very interesting people. You see interesting people. You see interesting things and you, you, you see interesting sights. You see interesting sights. People put up signs, they have enough of leaflets going through the door. So about week three or week four, people start putting little notes up by their letterboxes saying theyre fed up, thanks. They dont need any more literature. No thank you, nigel, i love this story in the times. So do i, this is the first millennial saint. I love it , dont millennial saint. I love it, dont you . Yeah, well, theres a millennial saint. Its only 32 or it was 32. Well, no, you can tell us what he was when he died. When he died . Yeah. So yeah. So so this is a lad called carlo acutis who was 15 years old. He died of leukaemia in 2006. But, his reputation for miracle. Miracle working spread. And he cured well , a miracle working spread. And he cured well, a family of a brazilian boy prayed to him and he cured the boy of pancreatic disease , 2021 year old costa disease, 2021 year old costa rican woman. She was she had a bad brain injury after a bike accident. She recovered. So what accident. She recovered. So what the Catholic Church does is they have an authentication unit to check on miracles. They sent the unit out to go and find out if this was actually genuine. Its this was actually genuine. Its been decided that these were genuine miracles and as a result, this lad who really enjoyed playing his playstation, and doing Computer Games will be canonised and become a saint. But this is after i mean, he this is people praying to him after he died. Yes. Its got a global following, which is. But this is only because his body was on display for such a long time. And they were saying it was incorruptible. It wasnt decaying even though it was. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, its all just a bit i mean, its like all these things, whether you its whether you believe it or not, really. Oh, well, i think its very interesting that one. There you go. There you go. Were at time. Thank you both. Heres annie. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Good morning. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. Its a bit of a cloudy start for many of us. There will be some sunshine later on across southern areas, but further rain is to come across the north after a very wet few days here. However, having said that, it is going to be drier than it has been lately, but some drizzly rain will continue. Its an area of frontal systems wrapped around this area of low pressure here in the north sea. To the south, though, were well away from that low pressure system, so well see some brightness. The best of the sunshine will likely be across parts of south wales , the southeast as well, wales, the southeast as well, but there could be a few showers here and there, temperatures just about climbing to 20 degrees in the south. But for most of us, there will be a little below par for the time of yeah little below par for the time of year. And it will feel fairly coolif year. And it will feel fairly cool if youre exposed to an onshore breeze in the north as well. That clear those clearer skies will become a bit more widespread throughout this evening, so a fairly fine end to the working week for many southern counties this evening. Cloudier skies further north with some drizzly rain, particularly across parts of Northern Ireland, much of scotland as well on the coast and over the high ground, is where the rain is most likely and we will see some breezy, some stronger winds up towards the Northern Isles as well. It will turn drier as the night goes on, as that area of low pressure pushes away to the north, so clearer skies will become more widely seen throughout the night, covering much of england and wales through the night and into southern scotland by the morning. We could see some mist and fog developing as well across southern counties because the ground is fairly wet, that should clear up quite quickly through saturday morning, but it will be a fresher start to the day. Temperatures in the mid single figures for some of us, so a slightly fresher start to the day. But there will be more sunshine around certainly. And saturday is looking like the most dry and warmest day of the Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us should see plenty of sunshine and dry weather as well. And dry weather as well. However, as the afternoon goes on we could see some heavier showers encroaching into northeastern england. Southeastern scotland. But as i said, most of us should stay dry and in the best of the sunshine. Highs of 22 degrees in the south and the high teens in the north. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news claims his labour counterpart doesnt have the courage to debate him, as he has no plan for the country. For the country. Yes, the Prime Minister has challenged the leader of the opposition to not one but Six Television debates in the run up to the election will he regret the strategy . The strategy . A new poll reveals that reform could pose a threat to 28 tory seats. Thats as a Record Number of conservative mps are set to stand down. A reform uks deputy leader had no knowledge of Nigel Farages planned Constituency Campaign, apparently beginning next week. I had to be honest with you, put in place some preparations to launch next week. Im deputy leader of reform uk, as you mentioned, and i was entirely unaware of his plans to launch a Campaign Next week. At least four people are dead and more than a dozen have been injured after a restaurant building collapses on a beach in majorca. Majorca. A terrace at the two storey restaurant has reportedly collapsed into the basement, with Emergency Services working through the night to recover those trapped in the rubble. Those trapped in the rubble. A court is set to rule whether child killer lucy letby can appeal against her convictions. Convictions. Well, a huge weekend of sport ahead with us. Weve got the fa cup final, scottish cup final , cup final, scottish cup final, the rugby champions cup final, the rugby champions cup final, the monaco grand prix, england versus pakistan in the cricket, the french tennis open, the Womens Champions League final. Our friend Jack Catterall fights josh taylor. Its the richest game in football. The championship play off between southampton and leeds and if you like cycling, dont forget the giro ditalia. Giro ditalia. Morning. Its a bit of a cooler day for most of how are thing for the Bank Holiday Weekend . Find out all the details with me a little. Morning to you. Im Stephen Dixon, and im ellie costello, and this is breakfast on gb news is. Is. Oh, is. Oh, loads of you getting in touch on the election. Of course. An interesting one. Just come in from philip marsh, who says holiday booking up by 57. Thats because, i always says here we go, thats despite the fact that weve all been told were too poor and cant afford anything. You get that a lot with the cost of living crisis and people saying, yeah, but loads of people arent going on going on holidays, but i think to be fair, there will always be people who can afford things. But youve got to spare a thought for those people who, in the cost of living crisis, really are struggling to do anything, and so they wont be going on holiday. The rest of us who are managing you might go on a cheaper holiday or do something, but you can still go on holiday. So its thinking about those and bearing a thought for those at the bottom of the pile. Thats what its all about, jesse young says, heres one for you. A dream team of labour and the liberals in a coalition government. Starmer and davey. Coalition government. Starmer and davey. Not sure. No not sure. Do do keep your thoughts coming in on any of those. Gb news. Com your say. Well, the Prime Minister has launched the opening gambit of this election accusing sir keir starmer of lacking the courage to debate him. Well, rishi sunak wants to debate sir keir starmer every week in the run up to voting day. This comes as a survey shows that reform uk are threatening 28 conservative seats across the country. Seats across the country. Lets talk to our Political Correspondent, olivia utley. Well, its certainly a shot across the bows of sir keir starmer , but its interesting starmer, but its interesting that this clearly is all being framed as a debate between the two men who could be Prime Minister and not a wider debate between the leaders of all the parties that are running. Parties that are running. Well, thats a really interesting point. I mean, rishi sunakis interesting point. I mean, rishi sunak is clearly feeling very confident about his own ability to perform in these tv debates, asking for six debates is pretty extraordinary, very interesting that the Prime Minister doesnt seem to want other parties to be involved. Is that because of the threat from reform uk . Now, weve learnt this morning that reform is a serious threat to the conservatives in 28 different constituencies. Different constituencies. Interestingly, reform are actually polling best in labour held areas. But labour has such a poll lead there that it will be the conservatives who end up suffering. It doesnt look like reform is going to win any seats. Maybe, maybe one, possibly two seats. But the real problem for the conservatives is that the reform party is likely to split their vote, and the reform party could leapfrog the conservatives coming in to second place. So that could be why the Prime Minister doesnt want other parties involved in these election debates. He does think, though, that he can prove himself to be more popular than keir starmer. Keir starmer isnt a particularly popular leader of the opposition. The labour party the opposition. The labour party as a whole is more popular, but to be honest, rishi sunaks personal polling isnt particularly good either and want you to ask you as well, olivia, about the new gb news peoples poll, which puts labour way out ahead. It does. It puts way out ahead. It does. It puts labour 27 points ahead overall and most worryingly for rishi sunak, it puts labour ahead on both the economy and immigration, two areas which rishi sunak is using. He wants those to be the real battlegrounds of this election. Now on immigration, it sort of all to play for according to our peoples poll , because 51 of peoples poll, because 51 of peoples poll, because 51 of people who were polled dont trust either main party on immigration. So its going to be rishi sunaks job over the next six weeks to try and prove that his rwanda plan would work after an election and that he can be trusted by those swing voters, those disenfranchised voters more than keir starmer. Okay, olivia utley there for us in westminster. Thank you very much indeed. Okay lets talk to the founder of youth vote uk, alexander cairns, who joins us now. Great to see you, alexander , in terms of this you, alexander, in terms of this election, in terms of things that are being pledged and promised, were not hearing anything. So far being pitched at the youth vote especially. Are we . No, were not. And i think its going to be a very Interesting Campaign because what were going to see is probably labour making this strong assumption that, you know, all of the 18 to 24 and 25 to 34 demographic will just kind of sweep to them , and the other of sweep to them, and the other parties will kind of get drips and drabs. Actually, what were seeing is 25 are still undecided. Yes. Labour are ahead when we poll young people, but i think labour needs to make sure that they dont kind of underestimate the fact that the other parties will at some point inevitably put policies in there around housing and helping young people get onto the housing ladden people get onto the housing ladder. So, so far, ive not seen anything, but im sure it will come in due course. Alexander, weve been talking about debates this morning. These election debates. Rishi sunak saying he wants to debate sir keir starmer six times in the run up to polling day as Keir Starmers camp insisted he wants to take part in the debates, but havent confirmed how many there will be so far in terms of the youth vote out. Will young people be engaging with television debates, or will they be looking to social media, things like that . Yeah, i think youre right. I dont know whether tv debates from a kind of youth perspective will massively move the dial on peoples perspective on both of the kind of main leaders and policies. But what i would say is, naturally, when you see debates, some of them do get cupped debates, some of them do get clipped from social media. So i dont know if people will be watching the debate end to end , watching the debate end to end, but i think it will be significant because, you know, whoevers presenting it will potentially ask things that young people care about. You know, we know that labour potentially are going to look at zero hour contracts. So keir starmer gets asked about that and rishi sunak gets his perspective. Itll be interesting to see what what they talk about. So not watching it end to end. No but actually some of the clips definitely will will have some perspective. Yeah just a quick one, just a brief one and sort of on that. Because the problem what concerns me about young people getting a lot of information off social media, and even if it is cupped social media, and even if it is clipped off a tv programme, is that you lose context and context is vital in all of this, isnt it . Isnt it . Yeah. No, i agree with you, stephen. I do think that sometimes its important that they do watch the debate because naturally a clip doesnt tell the full story. And you know, you know, when we talk about how things are going to be funded, i think both parties have got to be honest with young people. They probably will at some point in the next parliament, have to be tax increases. I think its you know, a lot of young people are saying to me that theyre really looking forward to hopefully both of the main political leaders talking about are they going to cut National Insurance and theyre going to continue to cut taxes. And i think thats realistic. And actually, probably were going to see some discussion around that. So as you say, they probably should watch it. And were definitely going to be recommending as much as possible that people do watch the full programme. Yeah. And just very quickly, sir i know we are squeezing you for time, but what are the youth looking for . What do you think the main priorities will be . What will they be looking for in manifestos a lot about, you know, kind of minimum wage, kind of how theyre going to be helped to get on the housing ladden transport is a big thing, so, you know, all of the things that young people care about. And actually it will be interesting because we do typically see that young people are persuaded by their to parents vote. But actually when we poll members, about 30 are saying, actually theyre undecided because theyre undecided because theyre going to make up their mind. You know, the parents might have their perspective, but theyve got very different, you know, thoughts. So itll be interesting to see what happens interesting to see what happens in the election for sure. Okay. Alexander cairns, the ceo of the youth vote uk, thank you very much indeed. Right. Lets talk to former labour advisor kevin maher. Kevin, good to see you this morning. I wonder in terms of an advisory role, how would you advise us keir starmer and indeed the frontbench , the indeed the frontbench, the labour frontbench, to handle this campaign. Labour frontbench, to handle this campaign. Theyve theyve this campaign. Theyve theyve got a lot of meat to put on, a lot of bones to convince people. Lot of bones to convince people. Well keir starmer has got some very, very good advisers and very experienced hands around him. And i think what well see is a continuation of a strategy which is in two parts, which is to put forward a very cautious offer and cautious because i think thats as Benjamin Disraeli once put it, the temper of the times. I think i think weve seen quite a lot of eventful, eventful politics in the last 4 or 5 years, and weve seen some histrionic politics, very much as well, i think. I think the public are looking for, a leader to, you know, to, to steer them into calmer waters. So not so much keir starmer, but steer calmer if you like. I think thats going to be part of it. And i think its also about allowing the conservatives to do what theyre doing, which is imploding. I mean, i mean, you know, this this is a government that had an Incredible Opportunity in december 2019 when Boris Johnson won that election victory with an 80 seat majority, the tories won in areas they never won in before, and they could have reshaped british politics fundamentally. British politics fundamentally. Now that that advantage, that incredible inheritance has been frittered away in the last four years, and the conservatives have now got a three pronged problem, which is that theyre losing the red wall, theyre losing the red wall, theyre losing a lot of the labour tory marginals, which which would be typical in an Election Campaign. Fair enough. But theyre have also got the liberal democrats zero in in on their vote, particularly in the south west of england. And theyve also got reform uk like this free radical rattling around the body politic of british politics that could do untold damage. And rishi sunak has got to try and fight three battles against three opponents who can all do him in. So. So hes got an incredibly difficult opportunity and part of the Labour Campaign will be to keep serenely moving along, only saying things that are sensible and costed and all of that, and allowing rishi sunak and his party to do the rest. Yeah, well. But whats interesting, just as you were talking, we cant weve got confirmation that Jeremy Corbyn is going to stand as an independent in islington north now. All right. One now. All right. One constituency, perhaps its not going to make much of a difference, but the fact that he is a former labour leader, the fact that he obviously has all that Momentum Campaign behind him and everything else, you wonder if that could actually, in effect, end up presenting as much to labour as reform presents to the conservatives . I mean, in any general Election Campaign is a kind of chimps tea party. It does get it does get messy. And it starts off being quite, quite cordial. And all the rest of it and then descends from there. Really. I mean, i think thats probably the worst kept secret in british politics. I think Jeremy Corbyn was always going to stand as an independent. And for people who live in islington , i mean, every live in islington, i mean, every report ive ever heard from anybody as praised , jeremy anybody as praised, Jeremy Corbyn as a constituency mp, hes been there for 40 years and has been very, very assiduous and obviously gets a lot out of being a local mp. So hell be a being a local mp. So hell be a formidable opponent in that seat. But i think it is in just in that one seat and i think thats thats the thats the context here where reform, you know, are pretty rampant all across the country and can do damage to labour. But mainly well do damage to the conservatives. And i think, you know, weve got six weeks of this, of this campaign to go. Theres lots of unknowns. This is only the 2nd july general election in 120 years, and the last one on the 6th of july, 1945, saw Winston Churchill turfed out onto the street with with a labour landslide. So the precedents are not good for the tories in that regard either. So theres a lot of theres a lot of unknowns. Theres the kind of the known unknowns that that you get in any Election Campaign. But what really what really tests the mettle of political leaders is the unknown unknowns. Leaders is the unknown unknowns. Its the things that you cant foresee, you didnt know are going to happen. And to crash into your world. And weve got six weeks to go, and theres going to be quite a lot of those. I dont think anyones going to care about a 79 year old precedent, though. Kevin. Come on, lets lets be honest. Really good to see you. This superstitious, theyre all superstitious. Good to see you. Thanks very much indeed. Well, earlier on, we spoke to reform uks deputy leader, ben habib. The way the conservative party will wish to spin this whole election is who do you want to vote against . But if you want to vote against . But if you want to vote against . But if you want to change the country for the better, if you want a change in direction in the way the country is governed, youve got to decide who you wish to for , to decide who you wish to for, vote not who you wish to vote against. And actually, the only change on offer on on the ticket is from reform uk. If you look at conservative party policy, the way its played out, their high taxation , big borrowing, high taxation, big borrowing, big state intervention, high immigration, net zero and labour are that plus a bit more all on the same. All on you know all in the same. All on you know all in the same. All on you know all in the same direction. Whereas reform uk stands 180 degrees against virtually every single thing i just said. So you know, if people want a change in the way the country is governed, theyve got to vote for it. And thats the challenge were going to have is getting people out who would otherwise be disillusioned with politics, disillusioned with politics, disillusioned with politics, disillusioned with small c conservatism because even though they want it, no party is prepared to offer it. We need to prepared to offer it. We need to get them off their sofas into the polling booths on the 4th of july. Voting for reform uk. July. Voting for reform uk. Look, want to ask you about nigel farage . We only got a minute left with you. He has decided not to stand as a candidate , but telling tom candidate, but telling tom harwood on his show last night that he was actually planning to launch a campaign to become an mp next week. And that is why, mp next week. And that is why, he says, the tories have decided to go early on this general election. So im not sure how much nigel farage played in the Prime Ministers mind. I think there were a whole host of other reasons which moved him to call an election now. And i think from rishis perspective, it was probably a good move, are you saying then you dont believe nigel . I mean, because, i mean, the idea, the idea that hes got. Hold on a minute, hold on a minute. The idea that hes got a general Election Campaign ready to roll next week. And he was planning to do it, and because of this announcement, is shelved. The whole thing is a bit unusual. Im deputy leader of reform uk, as you mentioned, and i was entirely unaware of his plans to launch a Campaign Next week. Thats quite telling. Next week. Thats quite telling. Very interesting that, isnt it , anyway, we also spoke before it, anyway, we also spoke before to the lib dem local Government Spokesperson about their pledge to hire 8000 new gps. I think weve always been able to influence the agenda, even though were not, particularly big party. So if you look, for example, at the windfall tax , we started calling windfall tax, we started calling for one of those in october 21st to help people out with their energy bills, but later became labour policy and then that became government policy. So its really, really important to set the agenda. And we have proved that we can be effective in coming up with really good ideas that make peoples lives better and getting government to run with them. Ultimately well, urgent appointments would have a right within 24 hours. So obviously people who are really, really poorly need to see their gp straight away. And, and thats enshrined in this plan as well. But at the thats enshrined in this plan as well. But at the moment, if your issue is non urgent, you know, lots of people are waiting over two weeks. Ive just waited over five, here in shropshire. So there are a lot of people who would really benefit from this, right . To see to see their gp within a week. And i think its really important to have a High Standard to work to , so that standard to work to, so that people can feel confident that they are going to be seen , that they are going to be seen, that theyre going to be able to get back to work, and that theyre going to be able to continue with their life as normal. Thats the lib dems speaking to us a little bit earlier on. Do stay with us. Were going to be talking about more of the general election fallout. But first, heres your weather with annie shuttleworth. A brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. News. Hello. Good morning. Welcome to your latest gb news. Weather update. Its a bit of a cloudy update. Its a bit of a cloudy start for many of us. There will be some sunshine later on across southern areas, but further rain is to come across the north after a very wet few days here. However, having said that, it is going to be drier than it has been lately, but some drizzly rain will continue. Its an area of frontal systems wrapped around this area of low pressure here in the north sea to the south, though, were well away from that low pressure system, so well see some brightness. The best of the sunshine will likely be across parts of south wales, the southeast as well, but there could be a few showers here and there. Temperatures just about climbing to 20 degrees in the south. But for most of us there will be a little below par for the time of yean little below par for the time of year, and it will feel fairly coolif year, and it will feel fairly cool if youre exposed to an onshore breeze in the north as well. That clearer, those clearer skies will become a bit more widespread throughout this evening, so a fairly fine end to the working week for many southern counties this evening. Cloudier skies further north with some drizzly rain, particularly across parts of Northern Ireland. Much of scotland as well on the coast and over the high ground, is where the rain is most likely and we will see some breezy. Some stronger winds up towards the Northern Isles as well. It the Northern Isles as well. It will turn drier as the night goes on, as that area of low pressure pushes away to the north, so clearer skies will become more widely seen throughout the night, covering much of england and wales through the night and into southern scotland by the morning. We could see some mist and fog developing as well across southern counties because the ground is fairly wet, that should clear up quite quickly through saturday morning, but it will be a fresher start to the day. Temperatures in the mid single figures for some of us, so a slightly fresher start to the day, but there will be more sunshine around certainly. And saturday is looking like the most dry and warmest day of the Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us should see plenty of sunshine and dry weather as well. 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Good luck we are going to be speaking to Claire Coutinho, who is the energy secretary, very shortly just to stay with us. Welcome back to breakfast. Its 825 now. Emergency services have reported at least four people have been killed and 16 people have been killed and 16 people have been killed and 16 people have been injured after a building collapsed on a beach in majorca gave away on thursday. And apparently at the first floor, collapsed. Quite a number of people injured. No brits as far as were aware, despite it being obviously a very popular houday being obviously a very popular holiday destination for brits. Well, joining us now in the studio for more on this developing story is our reporter, charlie peters. Good to see you this morning charlie. Whats the latest. Well seven critically injured as we understand at this stage after the Emergency Services launched a critical operation last night, all ambulances on the island, if they were available , were diverted to available, were diverted to playa de palma. The beachfront area where this incident happened last night. Fire bngade happened last night. Fire brigade were also there. And also a crane. Not typically associated with the Emergency Services was operating well into the night to remove some of the masonry rubble , concrete and masonry rubble, concrete and glass, and also some steel that had collapsed in this terrace collapse last night at 840. There are reports that several people were still stuck under the rubble in the early hours , the rubble in the early hours, and a Police Spokesperson said last night to local media they were asking people to remain quiet so they could listen in and hear for any signs of survivors under the rubble. A very intense situation for them. We also heard reports that while the adjacent bars and restaurants did close immediately after the incident occurred, some bars nearby were still playing music and still serving drinks , which could have serving drinks, which could have made the rescue operation more difficult, particularly if theyre trying to hear those survivors trapped under the rubble. There was also a report of one man being rescued, a young man who was caught in a cavity created by the collapse. He was retrieved with an injured arm and alongside the Ambulance Services and the fire brigade, theyve also brought in psychologists from the college on the island of majorca to assist those who are potentially traumatised by the scene that they were involved with. Theres dust and its an appalling situation to be involved with. Many people were screaming and running away while also being warned by authorities to remain silent so they could listen in. As i said, over 100 people in the Emergency Services were rushed there last night and its understood that the terrace of this Beachfront Club called the Medusa Beach Club collapsed at around 840 onto the diners gathered below. Initial reports suggesting it could have collapsed into the basement. Of the four dead, we havent any official confirmation on who they are, but its understood there are three women, one man and two of them are understood to be workers at the beach club. One of them a doorman of senegalese heritage. So its a disastrous situation in majorca, andifs disastrous situation in majorca, and its highly likely at this stage that the reports on those who have been injured will continue to rise as we wait for more information. I mean, it is absolutely shocking and i think these things resonate with us, charlie, dont dont they . Because these are places that a lot of us have been to, you know, 17 million tourists went to mallorca and the surrounding islands in the archipelago in the last year, most of them german. German. The second biggest portion were british. But as we understand from the foreign office, no official confirmation on any britons involved in this disaster so far. Okay, charlie, thank you. Okay, charlie, thank you. Okay, charlie, thank you. Lets speak now to the secretary of state for Energy Security and net zero, Claire Coutinho. Good to see you this morning. I wanted to start actually with gb news peoples poll, which is new out this morning. It shows that, according to the people who took part in this poll, they favoured labour on the economy and immigration. You can perhaps understand why, especially on the immigration point, when rishi sunak confirmed yesterday that flights to rwanda are not going to take place before the general election, that is your central policy. Central policy. Well, i mean, firstly, we would have been able to do that if the labour party hadnt voted against the policy 139 times, and i would just say this, you know, the labour party have been very critical of that policy. Vie when actually now youre seeing countries across europe saying they want to do the same thing. One country said that the uk was being a pioneer when it came to this issue, because we know that illegal immigration is putting a huge strain on resources and is something that needs to be dealt with. So i would say to your viewers that they, if they care about immigration at the next election, that the choice is pretty clear between keir starmer, who once said that anything to do with immigration policy was always going to have an undercurrent of racism. And rishi sunak, who has you. Know, rishi sunak, who has you. Know, staked, as you say, his political time on making sure that he can tackle illegal immigration and immigration as well. Yeah, i mean, look what keir starmer has said in the past in more ways than one is often irrelevant. You know, we know hes changed his mind on a lot of things as politicians do. What he has said when it comes to this issue is, look, rwanda is not the way forward, you know, and, and this idea of setting up a new border force, which would include, Intelligence Officers and all this sort of thing chasing down the gangs, at source. I mean, the gangs, at source. I mean, these are the these. Yeah, but but not with a border force. I know youre chasing the gangs, but youve not set up this new border force, which he wants to do, and that he claims will make the difference. The difference. Well, i mean, nobody else is saying that. So the truth is, if he had really changed his stripes so much, he wouldnt have voted against our policies on immigration 139 times. And at every step of the way, we have been challenged by the labour party and wanting to take tougher action on immigration. Ian. And tougher action on immigration. Ian. And the truth is, you know what the labour party are like on this and you know what the conservative instincts are . We have set out the toughest package of measures when it comes to migration as well, because we know those numbers are too high, which will bring the numbers down by 300,000. And like i said, were doing everything we can to stop the boats. I wanted to ask you about about we are very close to now a new record for conservative mps have now declared that they plan to leave Parliament Rather than stand for re election. The current number stands at 72. Tory mps that are stepping down. A Current Record is 75. I mean, it does look like rats fleeing a sinking ship, doesnt it . What faith does this instil in would be tory voters before the general election . Well, i mean, we are seeing , well, i mean, we are seeing, i think, tens of people stepping down on the labour side as well, although ours has been higher. And to be honest, you know, just like the rest of the country, lots of people were in government. They were ministers dunng government. They were ministers during a pandemic and inflation crisis. You know, it has been a lot for people. But you still have, you know, many people who are out there fighting. So that people can understand the choice that they face at the next election. And we want to be really clear about that. Thats why were setting out detailed plans. You know, ive been talking about energy this morning. We may come on to it. I want people to have cheap energy. You look at ed milibands plans for energy and actually thats going to raise peoples bills. We want to talk about immigration, which weve spoken about already. Weve restored stability with the economy and actually labour want to introduce french style union laws. So look, theres a lot of us who are going to be fighting for every single vote to make sure that people understand what the choices at the next election when it comes to energy, then, i mean, what are the one of the big issues in reducing inflation, we know has been lower energy bills, and then we know that ofgem have declared a new reduction in the in the price cap going down. I think its 7, but theres an awful lot of concern on that in just a couple of months. That price cap may rise again. I mean, cornwall insight, which is a Big Market Research company, says it could well go back up to beyond where we are now. So raising more than 7 in just a few months. So its this is just a temporary glitch isnt it. Getting this nice cheaper energy. Well, this is the second big step down weve seen this year. So prices are significantly lower than they are. Last year in april, we saw prices come down by about almost £250. And now this is a further £122 off the average bill. But ive also set out further policies today building on the work that weve done over the last 14 years, to make sure that now were coming out of the Energy Crisis and people are starting to see new deals appear in the market, that were getting more competition, driving down prices, making sure that people are getting a fairer deal that people are getting a fairer deal, whether youre a business or a household. Because my priority is cheap energy for the country. I know that thats how the country will succeed or succeed or fail. Whether youre businesses or household, its really important that we get people cheap energy. And actually, if you look at ed milibands plans, even places like the Tony Blair Institute have said that his plans , which have said that his plans, which have said that his plans, which have decarbonisation targets that no other major country have, are going to raise peoples bills and hike peoples taxes. And weve looked at these numbers and i should tell you that thats Something Like £2,000 worth of extra taxes on households because of their overall plans over the course of the next parliament. Thats not what i want for families. Well, no. And look, to be well, no. And look, to be fair, we havent seen we havent seen all the details on that. And thats the sort of thing weve got to start really ploughing through. When the manifestos come out. But in terms of cheap energy, thats absolutely reliant on Energy Security , isnt it . Well, what security, isnt it . Well, what are the conservatives doing to provide Energy Security . Well, i mean, this is exactly right. So one of the things that weve done is set out the largest expansion of Nuclear Power in 70 years. When we first came in the labour party had bought not a single Nuclear Power plant in their time in office. Weve started big power plants, but one of the things im really excited about is factory built Nuclear Power. Small modular reactors. And small modular reactors. And were going to be one of the first countries in the world to have one of these up and running, and i want to see them across the country. Weve also bought and built record amounts of clean energy as well. And ive recently set out plans to say we need more gas power plants. And actually we need to be unafraid to say that actually, when the wind doesnt blow and the sun doesnt shine, we need to have cheap energy to backit we need to have cheap energy to back it up. But again, i would just come back to instincts and principles between us and the labour party on this. We know that cheap energy is important. Were willing to say difficult things and be sensible when it comes to net zero, to say theres no point shooting ourselves in the foot by having really Expensive Energy to meet Climate Change targets. If no one else in the world is doing that. On the other hand, youve got ed miliband and the labour party who just want to go further and faster no matter what the cost is for ordinary households. I dont think thats the right thing. Thats why weve set out this approach and weve set out this approach and weve taken the steps we have today. Just, just very briefly, because were out of time. Why dont you scrap the green levy then . So what i have said today that i want green levies every year for the next parliament to be lower. And actually the ones that weve introduced so far have had this important principles that savings have to be higher overall. So overall households are saving money. But could you say the same of the labour party . I think someone should go and ask ed miliband and keir starmer what they are going to do to levies on bills in the next parliament, because its very clear with the conservatives that they will be lower every single year than theyve been last year with us. Okay, we are out of time, im afraid. Claire coutinho, secretary of state for Energy Security and net zero, thank you very much for your time this morning. Right lets take a short break. But paups lets take a short break. But pauls going to be back with all the sport very shortly 840. Good morning to you. Should we say good morning to paul coyte . Lets. Oh go on for the final time. Good morning to you. Good morning to you. Good morning to you. You good morning to you. You know what the news thing is a very good morning. Oh, yeah. A very good morning. Oh, yeah. A very good morning. Oh, yeah. A very good morning to you. Yes. Its nice. Its traditional. Yes i agree. Yeah. And it is a very good boy. I like richard depher qatar Bank Holiday Weekend and all that. I beg your pardon. What did i nearly say . Luke littler. Shall we talk about luke . Oh, we better had. Oh, we better had. Did i nearly Say Something bad . I did i nearly Say Something bad . I think you did. Okay, fine. The rise continues of luke, 17 years old, he won the premier league of darts final yesterday, and hes earned himself a. Its not about the money. Its not about the money. Its about the prestige, isnt it . Oh, yeah. No, although the money does help. Money helps. Money helps. £275,000. Good on him. Not bad for a 17 year old. Not bad to go with the £200,000 that he won, to get to the final of the World Championships back in january. So hes doing great. And so did we realise that it was it was his mum, his mum. We saw the picture of him kissing her. Thats lovely. So shes very proud of him. So she should. Yeah. You know thats if you make your mum happy then thats great. Well lifes sweet. Absolutely. You manage that. Yeah, but the thing is he has had a few doubters , as always had a few doubters, as always happens. If anybody gets their first taste of glory, Everybody Loves you. Well done. And then loves you. Well done. And then itll be, oh, i dont know how are you saying we like to build them up and knock them down . Knock them down . Thats what we do. That is what we do. Nine darter didnt he . Nine darter didnt he . He did get nine a darter in the 11th leg. Yeah i mean thats phenomenal. Well its the perfect nine darts of darts. Is that right. Yes. So anyway its only i think its the fourth time its ever happened in that premier league in the last person that did it in the final. Went on to win and become a legend. And that was phil the power taylor. So anyway, hes going in the right direction. Continues like he is. Hes going to be a true legend of darts. And hes only 17 years old. Yeah, good on him i like him. Me too. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Me too. Were all luke littler fans here. Well can we talk about m s, please . Oh, you want to do m s now . Oh, you want to do m s now . I do, yeah, apparently. I do, yeah, apparently. Well, the thing is, its depher sport. Its. Well ill tell you the fa cup final. I mean its the route to m s is this way. The fa cup final is this way. The fa cup final is this weekend. So manchester this weekend. So Manchester United versus Manchester City Marcus Rashford hoping to play well for Manchester United to again prove doubters wrong. He hasnt had a great season. Hes been left out of the england side. Well. The england provisional 33 which is going to whittle down to 26. So Marcus Rashford will not be going to germany, but m s sponsor england and there we are. Theres there this is look thats a bit awkward isnt it. Its front and centre. Its front and centre. Its front and centre. It really is a little bit awkward because there he is in the middle there and theyre probably thinking who are we going to have model our stuff. Well Marcus Rashford is obviously got it going. He looks great. You know hes real. He looks like a model. He can wear our clothes. Looks fantastic. But unfortunately he hes not in the squad there. Hes not going to be. Why didnt they edit him out and get someone else in quick i dont know, would it be a bit what would you do. Would you just edit, edit the face and put someone elses face in there or other pictures . No, cant really do that. It would be a bit. Thats a bit. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, maybe theyre just hoping that we dont mention it, which we just have. Well its ridiculous. Hes not in the squad. So why have you got him advertising. Well its a big thats a big. Then again it probably takes a lot of time and a lot of money to get all the pictures. They probably shot that back at christmas. Exactly. And theyre thinking, well you know, its obviously hes going to be there and hes one of the big if it was six months ago, you know you put your bet. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. There you go. Well no it takes a long time when you do the modelling shots i find that dont you. I find out oh thats just say that ive always been sort of one shot and then its been done. Really. One shot wonder. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Thats me all over. Yeah. Cant believe it, paul, dont tell me this is the end. Its the end. Its the end. Have you seen how much sport across the weekend . I was going to cover everything through him, though. Oh, the fa cup. Oh, the fa cup. Weve got the womens fa cup. No, weve got the Womens Champions League theres the scottish fa cup final, theres the giro ditalia, theres the rugby challenge thing is going on. Itsjust i feel rugby challenge thing is going on. Its just i feel like rugby challenge thing is going on. Itsjust i feel like im on. Its just i feel like im doing the end of generation game. The cuddly toy, the coffee percolator. What else was there . The fondue set. The fondue set. Yeah. Didnt i do well didnt you . Hell never go early. Hell never go brucey. God love him, paul never go brucey. God love him, paul. Thank you very much indeed. Nice to see you. See you. Nice. Thank you very much. Oh right. Youve got to be of an age, ellie. Yes you do. Yes you do. Sorry. Youve got to be old like so. Sorry. Sorry. Do stay with us. Were going to be going through the papers with Claire Pearsall and nigel next. Welcome back to breakfast. Its 847. Its time to go through the papers with our senior political commentator, nigel nelson and former government adviser Claire Pearsall. Good to see you both, bro. Good morning to you, nigel, lets start with page four of the telegraph, shall we . And theyre saying that rishi sunak opted for an early election after treasury officials concluded there would be no money left for meaningful tax cuts. Thats right. Yeah, he ran thats right. Yeah, he ran out of money. Thats thats the reason that the telegraph gives. When you actually look at the figures, you can see see why he did that. The comparison would be when Philip Hammond was was chancellor. He kept £60 billion in the kitty just in case of emergencies and giveaways or whatever. And jeremy hunt said he got 6 billion left, so he cant do any tax cuts later on in the year. So the idea of another tax cutting budget was off the agenda. It was things like , spending 25 of gdp on like, spending 25 of gdp on defence, which would cost about an extra 20 billion. And hes also got the various things like the infected blood scandal that was thats going to cost us 10 billion. We still havent sorted out the postmasters yet, but theyre getting their compensation that will run into into a lot of money. And of course, nobodys even thought about the waspi women who are due compensation of Something Like 3 to 7 billion. So you can see that the that the cupboard is basically bare. And thats is basically bare. And thats the reason that rishi sunak thought okay, might as well go now because ive got nothing left. Left. Claire, youre not convinced. Claire, youre not convinced. Oh, i think there are many reasons for calling an early election. I think probably one of them is that you do it now before anything gets much worse. You had some pretty good news in government terms with inflation. It seemed that thats about as good as its going to get. You good as its going to get. You dont want to sit there over the summer being called a squatter in number 10, which is what the attack line from the labour party was going to be, and that hed bottled out of calling an election. So i think that there were many factors to it. I dont just think its a monetary aspect. I think that was part of it. But i think that youve got the you never trust your own colleagues to behave themselves ehhen colleagues to behave themselves either. And when weve looked at how many plots there are to remove Prime Ministers, not just rishi sunak, but previous Prime Ministers, you can understand why you might just think, do you know what . Ill go now before you lot have time to think and come up with another campaign against me. Against me. Fair enough, claire, should we have a look at this breakthrough through for Breast Cancer in the telegraph . Yeah. Now, this cancer in the telegraph . Yeah. Now, this is cancer in the telegraph . Yeah. Now, this is anything yeah. Now, this is anything when it comes to , medical, you when it comes to, medical, you know, sort of things that cure cancen know, sort of things that cure cancer. I think is always really fascinating in Breast Cancer, one of those issues that will affect everybody at some point, everybody will know somebody that has suffered. And this particular treatment will look at those cells which hide in those people that have recovered from Breast Cancer. These cells managed to hide themselves. Theyre immune to any kind of drugs , but they can fire up the drugs, but they can fire up the cancer gene, pretty much straight away if it so desires. And this, this drug in particular seeks out those cells to be able to destroy them because theyre so undetected that nothing has been able to get rid of them. And it trains the body to search and destroy those particular cells so they dont grow up again. Blooming clever, isnt it . I mean, it is amazing. It is getting i mean, it is getting cleverer. And one of the things thats going on is that is this some of it, some of this, not this particular one. But thanks to covid, theyre developing new vaccines for all sorts of things, like, for heart attacks for and cancer. And a lot of thats come through the research that happened when we were developing the covid vaccine. Yeah. Well, it is one of the you know, obviously, its got mixed mixed thoughts on that one, but it does generate all this extra information. Yeah yeah. Can this extra information. Yeah yeah. Can we talk knickers please. Certainly can. Certainly can. I mean under crackers get old pair of pants and it appears that m s, which was the domain of the older individual, the granny pants , thats where they granny pants, thats where they used to be bought but now women. So a third of m s underwear is now bought by the under 30s. Right. They have decided that it is comfortable, it is practical. It looks nice and its affordable. So young people are going back and theyre looking at the designs. Now. M s have really upped their game with this and theyre producing nice looking underwear for ladies, which is also practical. It washes well all these things that you have to think about and the under 30s are flocking. Are they paying you . Are they paying you . Are they paying you . I really wish they were. Im open to, Career Opportunities , open to, Career Opportunities, but i also think that its quite interesting that its younger people now driving that kind of boom for something that is comfortable. Well, ill tell you, ill tell you. Whats interesting with this is m s has struggled for years. If it turns out story , if it if it turns out story, if it can start pulling in a younger market. Yeah yeah yeah i mean i dont go shopping for knickers. I had a very bad experience in victorias secret trying to get, claire, claires , christmas get, claire, claires, christmas presents. And with her, what was her teenage son . But its just really weird. You talk, you talk. You talk, you talk. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Two blokes. A middle aged bloke and this lad in victorias secret trying to find claire some presents. It was not very good. We had to actually appeal to a shopping assistant to help us out. I can only imagine. Its the stuff of nightmares. Nigel did you have to. Did you have to calm down with an ice cream afterwards . Well, the worst thing everyone looks at you with kind of oddly as if you know. What are you doing in here . Yeah, yeah, i know, i think hes missed your segway. Segway . Youre your ice cream story. Youre your ice cream story. Oh, the ice cream story. Oh, the ice cream story. Oh, the ice cream story. Completely oblivious. Completely oblivious. But youve now only got 20s to get through it. Nigel, poor chap who was an ice cream salesman and the counsellor taking out, which he received a letter saying hes going to be prosecuted for noise pollution. Oh, now i sympathise with the residents there who are doing that because it tries to round the bend when the van comes round every summer. No, nigel blares out one corner. Its a lovely sound. Its a lovely sound. Its a lovely sound. Lovely sound. Lovely sound. Sound of the summer. Sound of the summer. Nigel. Nigel nigel. Nigel claire. Thanks very much indeed. Lets have a look at the weather now with annie. A brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on. Solar, sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Good morning. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. Its a bit of a cloudy start for many of us. There will be some sunshine later on across southern areas, but further rain is to come across the north after a very wet few days here. However, having said that, it is going to be drier than it has been lately, but some drizzly rain will continue. Its an area of frontal systems wrapped around this area of low pressure here in the north sea. To the south, though, were well away from that low pressure system, so well see some brightness. The best of the sunshine will likely be across parts of south wales, the southeast as well, but there could be a few showers here and there, temperatures just about climbing to 20 degrees in the south. But for most of us, therell be a little below par for the time of year, and it will feel fairly cool if youre exposed to an onshore breeze in the north as well. That clear those clearer skies will become a bit more widespread throughout this evening, so a fairly fine end to the working week for many southern counties this evening. Cloudier skies further north with some drizzly rain, particularly across parts of Northern Ireland, much of scotland as well on the coast and over the high ground, is where the rain is most likely and we will see some breezy. Some stronger winds up towards the Northern Isles as well. It will turn drier as the night goes on, as that area of low pressure pushes away to the north. So clearer skies will become more widely seen throughout the night, covering much of england and wales through the night and into southern scotland by the morning. We could see some mist and fog developing as well across southern counties because the ground is fairly wet. That should clear up quite quickly through saturday morning, but it will be a fresher start to the day. Temperatures in the mid single figures for some of us, so a slightly fresher start to the day. But there will be more sunshine around certainly. And saturday is looking like the most dry and warmest day of the Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us should see plenty of sunshine and dry weather as well. And dry weather as well. However, as the afternoon goes on we could see some heavier showers encroaching into northeastern england. Southeastern scotland. But as i said, most of us should stay dry and in the best of the sunshine. And in the best of the sunshine. Highs of 22 degrees in the south and the high teens in the north. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers spots of weather on gb news. Way. Good morning to you. 9 00 friday, the 24th of may. Today, the Prime Minister claims his labour counterpart doesnt have the courage to debate him, as he has no plan for the country. A new poll reveals that reform could pose a threat to 28 tory seats. Thats as a Record Number of conservative mps are set to stand down. Reforms deputy leader has no knowledge of Nigel Farages proposed Constituency Campaign in which he had planned for next week. So he says i had, be honest with you, put in place some preparations to launch next week. Week. Im deputy leader of reform uk, as you mentioned , and i was uk, as you mentioned, and i was entirely unaware of his plans to launch a Campaign Next week. At least four people are dead and more than a dozen have been injured after a restaurant building collapses on a beach in majorca. Majorca. The court is set to rule whether child killer lucy letby can appeal against her convictions. Good morning. Convictions. Good morning. Its a bit of a cooler day for most of us today, but how are things shaping up for the Bank Holiday Weekend . Find out all the details with me a little later on. Good morning. Good morning. Im Stephen Dixon and im ellie costello, and this is breakfast on. Breakfast on. Gb news. Right. Lets kick off. Should we, with the Prime Minister launching the opening gambit of this election , accusing sir keir this election, accusing sir keir starmer of lacking the courage to debate him . Well, rishi sunak wants to debate sir keir starmer every week in the run up to polling day. This comes as the survey shows reform uk threatening 28 conservative seats across the country. Country. Lets talk to our political edhon lets talk to our political editor, christopher hope, whos travelling with the Prime Minister, as all this gets underway and the pms obviously trying to put sir keir starmer on the back foot, but sir keir hasnt said he wont debate, has he. He just says he doesnt want to do it six times. No. And morning, stephen. Morning ali. Here from belfast where were travelling with the Prime Minister to visit here. Hes the first leader of the four biggest nations since this election was called by him on wednesday night with barely 48, with 36 hours in the campaign. With 36 hours in the campaign. Hes been to all four nations. Its been a crazy, crazy story for me. Following him of trains, planes and automobiles. But youre right. I mean, hes ahead of the game. Hes been planning this Election Campaign for a good week or so. Other parties have not done that. So theyre trying to scramble to catch up with what to do next. Everyone was thinking to be a november Election Campaign , and thats Election Campaign, and thats why hes saying ill challenge you to as many debates as you want. Clearly, cchq feel that if they put rishi sunak against keir starmer, they think their guy wins. Were waiting to hear what labour will do, whether theyre going to do a debate, any debates and indeed whether they will come on on a peoples forum, with gb news, as we saw rishi sunak do with you, stephen, earlier this year. So its all to play for, right now. There is some more good news for the pm with this fall in energy prices. Hell be able to say later that shows that his plan is working , that the cost of is working, that the cost of living is coming down. So. But there is also further news from sir john redwood, another tory sirjohn redwood, another tory grandee quitting as an mp. So other big figures are leaving mr sunak just as he needs their support. Okay , chris, thanks very much okay, chris, thanks very much indeed. Short and sweet with christopher , obviously sound christopher, obviously sound quality, not brilliant as he travels through Northern Ireland this morning, but we will get more from christopher and as he pointed out in terms of a peoples forum, we have said from day one that we want to hold on with sir keir starmer. He said at the time they wanted to see what happened with the Prime Minister. They wanted to watch it first, to see whether theyd agree to do it. Still havent agreed to do it. Lets hope they do , because we want to hope they do, because we want to hear what he has to say. That invitation is still very much open, isnt it . Well, lets get the thoughts now of former Defence Select Committee chairman tobias ellwood. Very good morning to you, tobias. Good to see you, i mean lets lets stick to the topic of debate , shall we . Because its debate, shall we . Because its on the front page of many of the papers this morning. Rishi sunak really hoping to tackle this head on one every week. He says, until polling day. Do you think thats a wise idea . Thats a wise idea . Yeah. I mean, first let me comment on nigel farage, if i may, that you began your opening remarks with, i mean, amazing to see somebody thats so confident in what he does in his his manner, his demeanour, his passion for politics, and hes using the excuse of not being ready. But, you know, in a weeks time, i just think thats, really i think that really is, a bad excuse. He should have if hes up for the fight, he should go for it. Thats what you want to see. The passion, the vigour, the determination. I have to say i dont agree with much, but ive always admired his absolute resolute determination to have his voice heard. And im sorry to see him backing away in, in this way. And it shows , perhaps this way. And it shows, perhaps reflects a bit, perhaps, where reform is going. This is going reform is going. This is going to be a fight. Going back to your question about who is in number 10, is it going to be keir starmer or is it going to be rishi sunak . And whats really interesting is the scrutiny thats now being sort of imposed on to labour. I mean, keir starmer did many of the rounds today and was found wanting. I think in many cases it shows that when the Election Campaign starts, the absolutely we start to scrutinise and shine the spotlight exactly on what labour stands for. Its all been on us. Its been on the conservatives, not always for the right reasons. Now were seeing actually the electorate getting an opportunity to compare, like with like to say actually given especially where the economy is going, who do i want running the country. Want running the country. Well, yeah. Well its a very fair point except , as you say, fair point except, as you say, with the scrutiny that has been on the government, of with the scrutiny that has been on the government , of course, on the government, of course, a lot of people looking at the pledges , i mean, youve got to pledges, i mean, youve got to look at rishi sunaks key pledges and he said when he launched, those judged me on whether i achieve these pledges. And frankly, he just hasnt, you know. All right. Inflations come down. He halved inflation. Except it wasnt really him that did that. It was the it was the bank of england. But hes failed bank of england. But hes failed on just about everything else. So people are going to go into this election saying the plan that he keeps saying theyre on. And we need to keep going on with the progress. Well, we with the progress. Well, we havent made a lot of progress. Well, i disagree with that. Theres fiscal policy and theres Monetary Policy. The Monetary Policy is the bank of england fiscal policy. You know, the taxes that we choose to put up or indeed down, how we actually encourage growth and productivity in this country, what were doing to get businesses working again, recruiting again. And of course, security of supply, which a lot of this is about. Thats why, the, inflation went up and also food prices because of the war in ukraine. Thats all to do with decisions made in number 10. But i would also go to the key point of any election, clinton famously said this. Its about the economy. Its the economy. Stupid its how people will feel their, you know, their own wallets, their. Bank own wallets, their. Bank is she going to get worse . Thats the big decision that i think that will ultimately determine. And with 2,025 of voters still not even , voters still not even, contributing into these polls, you know, undecided , and then you know, undecided, and then theres still a lot to play for theres still a lot to play for the topic of defence is very interesting, isnt it . Especially with rishi sunak announcement of this general election on the 4th of july. He did put defence at the heart and centre of that announcement. We yet to hear labours specific plans. Im sure well see that. Fleshed out in their manifesto, but it is increasingly becoming an election issue, isnt it . As people, that is what people are going to be looking at in the manifestos. Im really glad you said that, because often its not a consideration. Its like people want to see the money spent on health and education. They want to see good policies. And they they actually want to see a domestic focus. But absolutely, weve seen in the red sea, and indeedin weve seen in the red sea, and indeed in ukraine as to how our global exposure, how our global exposure is actually affected, impacts on our economy, our economy and our security are symbiotically interconnected. If we dont invest in our defence posture, if we dont stand up to a very fast changing world, then im afraid our economy, our prosperity , our own pockets will prosperity, our own pockets will be affected. So how are we going to do this . The Prime Minister to do this . The Prime Minister is right to say the next five years is going to will see more change than in the last 30. Ive been saying this for the last ten years that the world is getting more dangerous, not less. So the three things, in my view, that will actually determine this election is firstly, the economy, as i mentioned. Secondly, the security. And thirdly, a message security. And thirdly, a message to my own party. You know, the passion , the commitment, the passion, the commitment, the unity of what the party is all about thats been missing. Lets show that we can actually do this. We go in to try and win. If we go in thinking were going to lose, we probably will lose. So lets rally around the Prime Minister well see those polls narrow as labour comes under more scrutiny and were out of time. So im being yelled at. But i wanted to ask you this briefly because youre a straightforward man. Weve talked to you a lot. You tend to just say how it is. Whatever policies , whatever the whatever policies, whatever the policy differences or agreements between the two big parties. How do the conservatives deal with the fact that after 14 years, as is always the case, a lot of people in the country just want change . That is the big question. In any election , do you stay with any election, do you stay with what you know . And thats been a bit difficult. Lets be frank. You asked me to be plain talking. You know, weve had a few changes in Prime Ministers, but rishi sunak has navigated us into calmer waters. So youre very clear with what you get with rishi sunak, or do you then go for change . But dont forget going back to the beginning of the 14 years, what was the situation that we actually inherited just after that financial crisis, labour were borrowing £150,000,000 billion a year that they didnt have. Year that they didnt have. Okay, that was the situation back then. So we inherited an awful situation. Then we had ukraine, of course, then we had the covid crisis, two challenges that would have actually tested any government, whoever was in number 10. So its now up to the electorate to decide whos best fit to take us forward into these difficult times. Okay. Tobias was really good to see you. Thank you. To see you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Earlier on, we spoke to reform uks deputy leader ben habib about what he thought of nigel farage, revealing his plan to begin constituency Campaign Next week. But he didnt seem too sure of it. Lets take a listen. It. Lets take a listen. I had be honest with you , put i had be honest with you, put in place some preparations to launch next week. I wonder whether the conservative party found out about it. I think the sense of panic that we saw yesterday, the badly prepared speech , might perhaps have speech, might perhaps have prompted it a little bit. To be clear, you were about to launch a campaign to stand as an mp. Yes. Next week . Absolutely. So im not sure how much nigel farage played in the Prime Ministers mind. I think there were a whole host of other reasons which moved him to call an election now. And i think from rishis perspective, it was probably a good move, are you saying then you dont believe nigel . Well, i mean, because i mean, the idea, the idea that hes got. Hold on a minute, hold on a minute. The idea that hes got a general Election Campaign ready to roll next week, and he was planning to do it. And because of this announcement, is shelved. The whole thing is a bit unusual. Im deputy leader of reform uk, as you mentioned, and i was entirely unaware of his plans to launch a Campaign Next week. Launch a Campaign Next week. Very interesting. That, wasnt it. Well yeah, its up to you who you believe on that one, but its interesting not all plain sailing earlier. We also spoke to the lib dems and their local Government Spokesperson about their pledge to hire new gps. I think weve always been able to influence the agenda, even though were not particularly big party. So if you look, for example , at the you look, for example, at the windfall tax, we started calling for one of those in october 21st to help people out with their energy bills, that later became labour policy and then that became government policy. So its really, really important to set the agenda. And we have set the agenda. And we have proved that we can be effective in coming up with really good ideas that make peoples lives better. And getting government to run with them ultimately. Well, urgent appointments would have a right within 24 hours. So obviously people who are really, really poorly need to see their gp straight away. And, and thats enshrined in this plan as well. But at the moment, if your issue is non urgent, you know, lots of people are waiting over two weeks. Ive just waited over five, here in shropshire. So there are a lot of people who would really benefit from this , would really benefit from this, right . To see to see their gp within a week. And i think its really important to have a High Standard to work to, so that people can feel confident that they are going to be seen, that theyre going to be able to get back to work, and that theyre going to be able to continue with their life as normal. Thats helen morgan from the lib dems speaking to us a little bit earlier on in the programme. Now, 9 13, Emergency Services reported at least four people have been killed and 16 have been injured after a building collapsed on a beach in majorca. Collapsed on a beach in majorca. Well, lets get the very latest for you from our reporter, charlie peters, whos been watching this develop over the last few hours. So what exactly is going on, charlie . Well, 840 last night, its understood that the terrace on top of the Medusa Beach Club, on the beach front in playa de palma in majorca, collapsed in a two Story Building into the basement of this restaurant when it was in its full swing of its evening service. We understand that several German Tourists were there last night, and it was very quickly declared as a Critical Incident for the islands Emergency Services. All available ambulances were rushed to the scene. Over 100 Emergency Service workers were attending, including the fire brigade , and including the fire brigade, and we also understand a commercial crane was involved to remove some of the rubble and the glass and the steel that gathered in this collapse, although they are doing it very carefully because there are fears that in the removal of rubble where four people have been killed and seven remain in a critical condition, that the rest of the building might collapse because of it. We also understand that this terrace was only opened on wednesday. Its a new development for the beach club, so that will add some speculation as to what could have caused this collapse. Theres no recent trend of collapsing buildings on the island then. There werent any adverse weather effects yesterday that could have contributed to it, but some of the stories coming out from the witnesses last night and the Police Spokespeople are quite extraordinary. They were urging people to remain silent as the fire brigade and the rescue workers worked through the night in order to listen for the sounds of any signs of life under the rubble. A desperate scenario. But while that was scenario. But while that was going on, and while both the adjacent restaurants and bars shut down immediately, there were still some bars along the beach playing music and serving drinks. Last night, which could have frustrated those rescue efforts. Several people were pulled out. One man was trapped in a cavity created by the collapse with an injured arm. Incredibly lucky and on a site there, alongside the ambulances and the rescue services, there are also some psychologists from the local college to deal with those who could be traumatised by what is obviously a hectic and appalling situation to be caught up in. Okay, just terrific. Okay, just terrific. Okay, just terrific. Thank you for now. I know charlies going to keep us up to date with that throughout the course of the day. Just a quick word from you on, the debate issue and we need to be clear about this. The Prime Minister is saying keir starmer is running away from debates , running away from debates, because he said he wants to do 61a week. So keir starmer isnt up for that. I mean, how do you up for that. I mean, how do you squeezeitin . Up for that. I mean, how do you squeeze it in . I dont know, because theyre actually quite complicated. Jason gale hi, Jason Starmer doesnt want to do debates, over various issues that hes raising there. Keir starmer hasnt said he doesnt want to do debates. He doesnt want to do debates. He doesnt want to do six. He sort of said hes prepared to do two. Two apparently. But this is how politics works. So its not. So there will be some there bound to be some debates, just not six. So its just for clarity on that in case youre misunderstanding the situation there. I mean, who do you think would win . I dont know if interestingly. Oh wheres that message gone . Sandra . Sandra message gone . Sandra . Sandra pearson, its reflecting i think , what a lot of people think. You cant trust any of them. Theyre all the same self serving individuals. I personally think thats a bit unfair, because we know some as individuals, you get to meet them in this job and, you know, some of them are quite nice people, but its interesting if thats the general sort of attitude, theyre all the same. You cant trust them. Thats not a good way to be thinking about british politics in 2024. And that needs to be addressed by whoever wins and whoever is in opposition. Come july the fifth, because i think there are a lot of people that feel that way. If you talk to people on the street, and i think there could potentially be a lot of people that decide to sit at home dunng that decide to sit at home during this election, we hope you dont. 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Well, there are some incredibly tight reporting restrictions around this case, but there are a few things that i can tell you. For example, the fact that letby and her legal team launch this application all the way back in september of last year. Thats against convictions for crimes committed while she worked here at the countess of chester hospital. Now, last month that application was heard by a panel of three judges at the court of appeal, and over the course of the two and over the course of the two and a half days, those judges did come to a decision. However, they reserved the judgement, which means we didnt actually get to hear the decision that they had come to. However, that is what were expecting to happen this morning. A short heanng happen this morning. A short hearing at the court of appeal, where we will learn the outcome of luppis application. Now, of luppis application. Now, there are essentially three different outcomes that we could get today. First of all, we could hear that luppis application has been denied and what that essentially would mean is that unless fresh evidence were to come to light, letby would be at the end of her appeal process and she would be spending the rest of her life in prison. The second outcome is that it could be the application itself is approved, but then the appealis itself is approved, but then the appeal is denied. Now what that would mean is that this particular appeal is denied , but particular appeal is denied, but that she and her legal team could approach the Supreme Court if they felt a point of law of general public importance did exist. Now, the final outcome that we could reach is that the application and the appeal were both approved. And what that could mean is essentially that her conviction were potentially overturned. And we are expecting the next hour to hear which of those three outcomes is the case. So if all goes ahead, well be bringing you all the latest here on gb news. Thank you. Sophie reaper in chester for us. Okay that is it from us. Well see you tomorrow morning. Up next, britains newsroom with nana akua and mark dolan. Akua and mark dolan. A brighter outlook with boxt solar. The sponsors of weather solar. The sponsors of weather on gb news. Hello. Good morning. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update. Its a bit of a cloudy start for many of us. There will be some sunshine later on across southern areas, but further rain is to come across the north after a very wet few days here. However, having said that, it is going to be drier than it has been lately, but some drizzly rain will continue. Its an area of frontal systems wrapped around this area of low pressure here in the north sea. To the south, though, were well away from that low pressure system. So well see some brightness. The best of the sunshine will likely be across parts of south wales, the southeast as well, but there could be a few showers here and there, temperatures just about climbing to 20 degrees in the south. But for most of us, theyll be a little below par for the time of year, and it will feel fairly cool if youre exposed to an onshore breeze in the north as well. That clear those clearer skies will become a bit more widespread throughout this evening, so a fairly fine end to the working week for many southern counties this evening. Cloudier skies further north with some drizzly rain, particularly across parts of Northern Ireland. Much of scotland as well on the coast and over the high ground, is where the rain is most likely and we will see some breezy. Some stronger winds up towards the Northern Isles as well. It will turn drier as the night goes on, as that area of low pressure pushes away to the north. So clearer skies will become more widely seen throughout the night, covering much of england and wales through the night and into southern scotland by the morning, we could see some mist and fog developing as well across southern counties because the ground is fairly wet, across southern counties because the ground is fairly wet , that the ground is fairly wet, that should clear up quite quickly through saturday morning, but it will be a fresher start to the day. Temperatures in the mid single figures for some of us, so a slightly fresher start to the day. But there will be more sunshine around certainly. And saturday is looking like the most dry and warmest day of the Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us Bank Holiday Weekend. Most of us should see plenty of sunshine and dry weather as well. And dry weather as well. However, as the afternoon goes on we could see some heavier showers encroaching into northeastern england. Southeastern scotland. But as southeastern scotland. But as i said, most of us should stay dry and in the best of the sunshine, highs of 22 degrees in the south and the high teens in the north. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news news. Good morning. Its 930 on friday, the 24th of may. This is britains newsroom on gb news with me, nana akua and mark dolan. Dolan. The night afraid to fight. Thats how the tories are, described labour leader sir keir starmer , who commits to only two starmer, who commits to only two tv debates rather than six, and then tumbling energy bills. A typical households annual bill will fall by £122 in july. Just what you dont really need the heat. Meanwhile, today the the heat. Meanwhile, today the conservatives and labour are set