carrying all this baggage may not be -- >> do you think it's half? >> i think it's half and half. half wants to do it again and half wants to find something else. and the trouble for the people who are in the non-trump half all the fragmentation going on against him. there's no doubt these issues that keep coming up with him have cemented in the minds of his supporters why it's so vital that he be returned to the nomination and returned to the white house. it has nothing to do with issues, nothing to do with ideology or are we going to be more conservative or less. it has everything to do with this personal, to him, vendetta that they think democrats have to just get him and throw him in jail, and they're not going to let it happen. it's quite fascinating. >> the thinking was ron desantis would be the most formidable competitor for donald trump. he's way behind in the polling. boy, he just got a lot of money, $20 million in the second quarter. here is what he said about it yesterday.

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