people were, when donald trump was obviously knew about the secret russian meetings and don junior's office, but the rest of us didn't know about it. he knew he had a lot to hide. so he started attacking the obama c.i.a., et cetera, et cetera. and you talked about the lack of turnover between the bush administration and the obama administration and the trump administration. that this isn't some secretive deep state, that these are just career professionals, that have grown up and said hey, you know what, i'm going to devote my life to defending and protecting the constitution of the united states. i don't care who the president is. >> well that's right. the only one who really swapped out was mike pompeo coming in and mike got to choose his deputy, gina, who i hope will be the next director. gina was career nsa, that's not bringing in people from the outside. bringing in people from the campaign. you need somebody who knows how the plumbing works, just like i did.

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