Do think the next six, eight weeks we could get this under control. Many still refusing. Doesnt make sense. Why are we Wearing Masks to be outside . The amount of people who think they dont need to do something is enormous. President trump continuing to deny the reality on the ground as states like georgia set new case records. Georgias been a great example of a state thats done it all right. And demanding schools reopen, despite the risk. We have to reopen the schools. Get them open. When he says open, he means open the schools. Science does not stand in the way of it. Why does the u. S. Trail the industrialized world in controlling the virus . Are things about to get worse . And what can we do now to emerge from the crisis . Plus, the passing of an american hero. To see something that is not right, fair, and just, youve got to do something. Remembering john lewis, civil rights leader, congressman and and the conscience of a nation. Welcome to sunday and a special edition of meet the press. Announcer from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is a special edition of meet the press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning. America today is mourning the passing of the civil rights icon, moral leader and congressman John Lewis Lewis died friday night at the age of 80 after a battle with pancreatic cancer. Among the countless tributes for louis came this one from his house colleague James Clyburn. The country lost a hero last night. We literally lost an icon, and i lost a personal friend. We will have much more on the life of john lewis including an interview with congressman clyburn later in the broadcast. We are going to begin with our failure to confront the coronavirus pandemic. It was just a month ago rising case numbers that Vice President mike pence wrote an oped saying, such panic is overblown. We are winning the fight against an invisible enemy. No, were not. We averaged w. H. O. Case number from monday to friday of this past week. France averaged 455 new cases. Germany averaged 408 new cases italy 182. And the United States nbc news recorded an average of 69,60 new cases per day. With the country topping 70,000 new cases two of the past three days now, does that sound as if were winning this fight how did this happen . We are the richest country in Human History with an unmatched medical infrastructure and a literate, educated populace. Yet today we stand uniquely helpless among industrialized countries in the fight against covid19 a world that once looked up to us to do the impossible now averts its eyes over our failure to do the possible. In this special editions meet the press ill talk to the head of the National Institutes of health. Two medical experts, two governors and an educator to trace how we got to where we are and where we go from here. We begin with the alarming reality the United States finds itself on the wrong side of this death struggle. Government is not going t be the answer to all peoples problems Georgia Governor Brian Kemp suing to blom atlantas mask requirement. It is really a distraction from what the real enemy is here and that enemy is this virus thats killing people in our city. Georgia is just one of 18 states in the socalled red zone identified by the white hous Coronavirus Task force in a report sent to the states but not made public. The report recommends georgia mandate statewide wearing of clothfaced covering outside the home. Around the country new cases are surging unto more than 75,000 on friday with 41 states seeing an increase over the last two weeks. Now in some of the worsthit states, death records are also being set daily. When youre on the hamster wheel and a lot of people die, its tiring. 28 states and the district of columbia requires masks outside the home. Folks, the numbers just do not lie. I am announcing a statewide mandatory mask wearing. But some governors ar still resisting, got tested yesterday for covid19 and the and the results came back positive. In light of your diagnoses, are you considering or thinking about a mask mandate now not thinking about it mask mandate at all. The top nine u. S. Brick and mortar retailers now requiring masks in their stores. But on friday, mr. Trump made it clear that he will not call for a National Mask requirement. I want people to have a certain freedom, and i dont believe in that, no, and i dont agree with the statement if everyone wears a mask everything disappears. Just 37 of voters approve how President Trump handled this virus, down since march. In an interview wednesday President Trump continued to paint an alternative reality. We want the schools open and georgias been a great example of a state thats done it all right. A special place. Great people and theyve done really well. Really well with the virus. When he says open, he means open school, kids able to attend each and every day at their school the science does not stand in the way of it. Should not stand in the way of it. Reporter it escalated into a character assault on dr. Fauci by two of mr. Trumps closest aides, and Peter Navarro published an oped calling fauci wrong about everything deputy chief of staff shared this cartoon or social media work criticized for antisemitic imagery. What happened with Peter Navarro in the editorial i cant even comment on that thats beyond my comprehension why he did that, but i do not believe that the white house is trying to discredit me. Though mr. Trump insists he has a Good Relationship with fauci, on friday he again singled him out for criticism. Dr. Fauci said dont wear a mask our surgeon general, terrific guy, said, dont wear a mask everybody saying dont wear a mask all of a sudden everybodys got to wear a mask. And joining me now for his first broadcast interview during this pandemic, dr. Francis collins, director of the National Institutes of health and worth noting technically Anthony Faucis boss dr. Collins, welcome to meet the press. Let me just ask the basic first question that ive asked a number of people that are in this Coronavirus Task force over the last couple of weeks. Why are we doing so poorly compared to the rest of the industrialized world in combating this virus well, good morning, chuck, and, yeah. I am wearing a mask and i have worn it since i left my home t come here to our little studio at nih since were talking, and the only other person in the room is at least 10 feet away, ill take it off for this interview. I didnt want anybody to think we take masks as something optional for people who want to premises themselves and people around them. Why are we doing so poorly well, its certainly the case that when you compare our experience with europe, which your numbers just did, we basically did good job in new york and new jersey and connecticut with that terrible crisis that happened and took many lives, which we should never sort of pass by without saying what a terrible tragedy that has been. And basically steps were put in place and if you look to see whats happening now in those areas, they came down very close to zero, but meanwhile, the rest of the country perhaps imagining this was just a new york problem kind of went about their business, didnt really pay that much attention to cdcs recommendations about the phases necessary to open up safely, and jumped over some of those hoops. And people started congregating, not Wearing Masks and feeling like its over and its summer, and maybe it will all go away. Now he we are with almost 70,000 new cases per day, from my perspective, quite concerning the number of hospitalizations, which is very close to being as high in the country as it was back in april. So, yeah weve got to really double down here and i hope today, chuck, we can talk about things that bring us together. Not things that divide us. We americans are pretty good at rising to a crisis we got one now lets see what we can do together. Well, thats the question can this be done without federal leadership i think basically we americans are individuals, and if given the appropriate information, and if its not sort of confused by a lot of other conspiracy theories were capable of figuring out what to do if we want to see this current surge, and its a real surge, to turn around, as you just heard from the head of the cdc, all americans need to recognize its up to us wear a mask when youre out of your house that is protecting other people from you, because you might be that person whos infected and doesnt know it yet and its spreading virus around. Do that social distancing thing. Dont congregate in large groups especially not indoors and do the handwashing we can turn this around, and w dont have to wait for some sort of serious highlevel edict to say so this just makes common sense at this point it ought to be something we all do. All right you just referenced the cdc director. I dont mean to nitpick on this, but the president directly contradicted and even said i dont even think hes right about that that if everybody wore a mask how do you at all get us rowing in the same direction if you have that high level of a contradiction . Well, it is bizarre that we turned maskwearing into something political. Imagine you were an alien coming to this planet earth and looking around, looking at the Scientific Data going from various place to plashce looking to see whos Wearing Masks, you would be totally astounded, puzzled, amazed, wonder what is going on here how could it be something as basic as a Public Health action we have very strong evidence can help seems to attach to peoples Political Parties . For starters, could we just walk away from that and say, this is about all of us. We are americans were pretty good at rising to a challenge, a crisis. Weve done so before in wartime. This is not a war but in a certain way it is against an enemy which is called the virus, and that virus is very sneaky and stelly, and our best chance is for all of us to get together and do the right thing, and stop fighting so much about the divide between different political perspectives which is just getting in the way. Let me ask you this should americans be concerned that the advice that does come out of the task force is somehow getting watered down by political pressure well, im part of the task force. Ive joined those meetings. The Vice President presides over them theres a very thoughtful exchange of information. Dr. Birx presents the latest data in terms of whats happening across the country we debate many things. Theres a lot of work that goes on there about how best we can distribute resources that are needed right now trying t figure out, for instance, how remdesivir, the drug we know that can help people who are really sick in the hospital, get to the people who need it. Thats not getting distorted in any way. That basically is Going Forward and the actions decided during that task force meeting. Its no longer, of course, coming to the press room for a big press briefing, but the work of the task force goes on. Lets talk about the issue of testing. Theres a report this morning the white house is actually pushing back on a congressional proposal that would add more money to your budget, by the way. More money to states and, for testing, and Contact Tracing are you guys on the task force recommending less money to states for testing and Contact Tracing . The task force as far as i know has not been engaged in that particular debate about funding in this next congressional supplement thats under serious consideration in the congress. And theres always a back and forth between white house and congress when it comes to appropriations process and apparently the opening bid from the white house was a bit surprising, certainly for many of us who were certainly hoping to see more in the way of support, but this is one of those things that will play out over the course of the coming days lets see where it ends up. What can the federal government do right now to improve the testing lag issue . Okay were still make an argument we need to do more testing a lot of people make that argument, but the real problem, and i can tell you ive had own family members have to wait five to seven days to get to get the results. That becomes useless at some point if the youre asymptomatic. What do we do to fix that . Good. Getting to the science here. Chuck, i like this part. So the average test delay is too long youre absolutely right. Averages around the country is about three days, but in som places agency long as a week and that undercuts the value of the testing. You do the testing to find out whos carrying the virus and isolate them so they dont spread is around. Its very hard to do that when theres a long delay getting results. Nih is deeply engaged in an effort to develop an additional array of tests that can be done in what we call point of care. Most of the tests done right now you have to have the swab and then you send it off to a central laboratory. Theres a time in order to do the delivery of the sample then they have to do the testing. Theyre kind of backed up. It takes a while to come back. We need to do things more on the spot actually, theres a number of new technologies coming along that look very promising in that space. We need to invest a lot of money and the government is willing to do so scaling those up just this week, you might know, we will be sending to about 700 or 800 Nursing Homes these point of care tests. The ones that have just gotten fda approval in a place very high risk. People who walk in for their shift will find out if they have a virus and find out in less than an hour thats the kind of things we need more of and the kind of thing i personally along with many others in other parts of the government are working on night and day to do a better job of it. Youre right we have to come up with a better turnaround. A better turnaround time. Let me ask you a couple questions on the back scene. First of all, the hacking issue that apparently russians were behind was nih targeted did you guys lose any Key Information . Its not entirely clear to me what this was all about and how we certainly are deeply engaged in this vaccine effort about to have its phase three trial started in the next day or so, initially designed a few hundred yards from where im sitting right now at nih, and certainl we are always under Cyber Attacks of various sorts i would say most of what we do in science, we publish it. Put it out there people dont have to go hacking to go find it. Were all about transparency so im not exactly sure what serious risk is involved here. Mischief, yes, but serious risk . Im not so sure. Whats your greater concern on vaccine the ability to distribute it or fear from the populace that the rush to a vaccine may make it unsafe i think all of those are significant concerns lets look at the Positive Side here, chuck. This has been an amazing trajectory weve been on only in january was it clear that this was a virus that might spread to the rest of the world. Within a day or two after getting the genome sequence of that virus our colleagues had started to design a vaccine which just 62 days later would be injected into the first phase one trial participants that data, just published three days ago, looks extremely good, that this vaccine was able to generate high levels of neutralizing antibodies in virtually everybody who got it so were on a good path here, and we will, by the way, need, as we go into this phase of recruitering people for clinical trials, need people to sign up. Can i make a pitch to people watching this . Go for it. If you want to be a part of this next phase of figuring how these vaccines work, all youve got to do is go a website. Its a long url called coronavirus prevention network, all one word, dot org. Coronaviruspreventionetwork. Org. About 100,000 people have already indicated their interest by registering for this, and you might then get called especially if youre in a site where well do recruiting which is in the place where the virus is spreading mostly in the south. So come on, yall. Take part in this. Obviously we need especially people who are at higher risk, africanamericans, latinos, come on, yall. Right. And final question, dr. Collins. Has anybody at the white house asked you to demote or to phi dr. Fauci, and if they did, would you do it . Nobody has asked me to do that and i find that concept unimaginable, and i am amused everybodys calling me dr. Faucis boss, because his real boss is his wife christine who might have something to say about that. Dr. Francis collins, head of the National Institutes of health, appreciate you coming on i know its not an easy stwhags youre in, but its important that the public hear from ou, so thank you for doin this, sir. Thanks a lot, chuck nice to be with you. 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The other thing we found, chuck, this is interesting in our state, in the areas that had mask requirements had 15 to 20 more mask wearing than the areas of our state that hadnt taken that simple step, and we found that those areas with mask wearing had less spread of the virus in our state. So based on those two data points it was a clear course of action to take it statewide. You had been a little hesitant both, i remember, in the stay at home order and with the mask both times wondering how enforceable these things are, and you came around to both of them, but let me ask you this, how enforceable is your mandate . Any governor, democrat or republican should do anything people that want a governor that will hesitate and doublecheck things before they do any of those overarching orders that no governor ever wants to do. Theres a number of ways local municipalities have enforced it. One of the things that allows our businesses and retailers and grocers to do is that if somebody is trying to trespass without a mask and they asked him to leave nicely and they dont, they can call upon local Law Enforcement for trespassing to remove them from the store so theyre not threatening and endangering the employees and other customers. What explanation do you have for the new rise in cases in your state . What do your Health Officials tell you . First of all, im proud that colorado is doing better than some of the hot spot states in the sunbelt. We need to do better than were doing because cases are going up. Thats clear. America as a whole are not doing well. People are lapsing in their caution and lapsing in the need for social distancing. As you know, chuck, masks are not a substitute for social distancing. We cant live the way we did in january, that wont work. We need to not have large get together, party, groups and make the deliberate effort to stay six feet away from others. A lot of people wished and we all wished that this had been past us. We can go back to normal and i think people are waking up to the fact that they need to be careful in everyday lives and take social distancings very seriously to get through this. Whats the explanation for why colorado. Why does your state. You only according to the covid tracking project, you only beat ten other states when it comes to testing. Theres a lot of other states that are testing more per capita than you are. What is that about . I would say generally the states that have the highest case load are going to have the highest testing and the highest positives, probably also the highest negatives. We have, for several weeks, major free testing site that denver runs at the pepsi center, home of the broncos. We also have about 48 Free Community testing sites across the state where anybody, no questions asked, no insurance questions or anything else can get tested. Yeah, but are you getting these tests back fast enough . It seems as if the inability to youve got to saturate testing and get them fast move and do the Contact Tracing. Do you have that up and running in colorado . So the National Testing scene is a complete disgrace. So every test we send out to private lab partners nationally, ser serve days, eight days, useless from an epidemiological. We are running 24 hours a day. So while some are still sent out of state and unfortunately, that takes a long time and we cant count on it and our country needs to get testing right, we are trying to build that testing in colorado to process the one to twoday turnaround and we are able to do 2,000 or 3,000 a day that day and even more with the lab partners in state like uc health. Its july 19th though. Youre still trying to get testing up and running and getting it quicker. You just mentioned the federal problems that you had and the private lab issues. Do you think this you think you can realistically reopen schools without getting this testing situation under control . Well, whether schools reopen in a particular area has more to do with whether there is a hot spot or outbreak in that area and also with the precautions that those schools are taking. In colorado we have delays, and others are beginning with a hybrid model and many districts are going back as planned, as normal taking precautions that Health Experts recommend and keeping cohorts separated and dont intervene with classes. And every School District will get for teachers and other faculty that face students and School Clerks they will be getting medical quality masks from the state along with any additional masks with protective equipment that the teach verse purchased. Governor polis, thank you. Governor dewine, you have 60 of your state under a mask ordinance, but if someone drives the ohio turnpike and someone turns off, you dont know if there is a county ordinance. Governor would it be simpler to have one standard for the state when it comes to masks. I understand with a different standard on restaurants and businesses. On the mask front, why all of these different mandates depending on the county youre driving in . First of all, chuck, we ohioans have done very well. We flattened the curve very early. Ohioans did what they needed to do. When we reopened we were one of the first states in put in place a ve a very sophisticated policy about how to reopen and that included a mask requirement for every employee. As far as customers now coming in, as youve pointed out, we are at 60 . Frankly, weve seen that go up as our counties have turned red. Were going the wrong way. We are at a crucial time and so this week you may see a lot more counties under that mask requirement. So we certainly would not rule out going statewide. We are certainly looking at that, but theres a lot of things going on, and one of the things that weve tried to do, we are running tv ads and well start a new ad. This coming week well preview it on tuesday really and the message is you wear the mask for other people. You wear the mask to protect your grandmother. And so its not just the orders. The orders are obviously important, but getting people to buy in and to understand getting a 20yearold to understand that he or she may feel invulnerable. Nothing will happen to them, but they get it, they may not know they have it, and they may see their grandmother and she may get it and end up dying. Thats the message were trying to get out across the state of ohio. Is it, though, your message diluted if you dont mandate it . Look, let me ask it this way. Because youre getting a lot of criticism on the right on the idea of a mandate and i know there are protests about mask wearing in front of your offices and residences. I think it was one plan for today in columbus. Are you letting that pressure sort of keeping you issuing the statewide order and you are putting more counties in a red alert in a couple of days, why wait . I dont think anybody in ohio what has watched what ive done doubts ill do what i need to do to protect ohioans and i gave a speech wednesday night and said to the people of ohio. Look, we are at a crucial stage. We are at the point where we could become florida. You look at our numbers today versus where florida was a month ago, we have very similar numbers. So were very, very concerned. Its not just about masks, though. We went out and talked to all on a phone call this week talked on our Health Departments and heres where they report back and heres where its occurring. Its occurring in bars and its occurring in churches. Its occurring from people who have traveled out of state, but a lot of it, frankly, is just people in cash all settings, 20, 30, 40, 50 people g gathering together, and so its not all about orders. Orders are important, but its also about getting people to understand, hey, this is very, very serious and now while we did a great job early on in ohio, we are now headed in a wrong direction and frankly, im very, very concerned about that. Let me ask you this chuck, you will see more orders from us this week, but again, i want to emphasize its not all about orders. You have to get people to come along with you if you do this. Right. No, i get that. I get that. Let me ask a biggerpicture question. Do you have confidence in the president and this Coronavirus Task force right now given the fact that were basically right back to square one . I think people look, frankly, to the governors. Historically weve looked to governorsrs to dealal with cris whether its a tornado damage and whether its a flood pandemic. We look to governors, and so you know, what this administration has been able to provide us and the congress has provided us and we thank both of them is the money. We will continue to need money for testing. As i look at where we go in ohio, weve doubled the testing in the last five weeks. Frankly, chuck, we need to double it again. We can only do that with money coming in from the federal government and it has to be for a long period of time. Were not going to be out of this in a month, two months or three months. I understand you say people looked to their governors, but you sort of ducked the question. Do you have confidence in the president and his leadership . I have confidence in the administration. We are on the phone every week, democrats and republicans with the Vice President. The Vice President has been doing an absolutely phenomenal job in leading that and of course, the president just delegated that to the Vice President. Any time ive asked, look, we need something. We need to try to get more agents and the fda moving and every single time iive asked e president or Vice President theyve come through. Getting into a discussion, and figuring out is it the president or whatever it is. This is not about politics. This is, frankly, getting the job done every single day and all of the governors are fighting to get it done. Well, you have to launch an ad campaign to convince people to wear a mask. If the president of the United States said wear a mask, would you need to run that ad campaign . Well, he wore a mask this past week so we were very thankful for that and very happy that he wore a mask and said that, you know, people should wear a mask. So, look, its no different than anything else. In this country we are not used to Wearing Masks. Fran and i were on a trade mission to japan a few months ago and a lot of people wear masks and its more of the culture. In this culture, were not in the culture to do that. People need to understand its not just about them that when they walk into a store its important for them to wear that mask for somebody else and thats why we run the ads. And theyre all ohioans talking to other ohioans saying, look, weve got to do this together. Ohioans have done well. People are getting weary across this country. People are weary about staying home and they want to get out and i understand that. Our message is you can get out and participate in the economy, but please be careful. Dont do things that just dont make any sense and thats the message that we keep trying to bring across to the people of ohio. Governor dewine, republican governor from ohio. As always, sir, thank you for coming on and expressing your perspective with us. Much appreciate it. 15 states set new case records. 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Is there any way we avoid what some people thought was alarmist a few weeks ago when dr. Fauci said he was worried about 100,000 cases a day. Is it inevitable at this point that thats where were headed in a couple of weeks . Well, to put it into perspective, again, we look at where weve been. We have probably infected 7 to 8 of the u. S. Population to date. Thats it, with the pain, sufficientering, death and economic disruption, thats it. As we talked about on this very show this virus wont stop and let alone stop transmission until we get to 50 or 60 . To put that into perspective, chuck, if we had 65,000 to 75,000 cases a day for the next 300 days it would be close to that level. So we have a lot of human wood to burn in this coronavirus forest fire and you know, we may see ups and downs in communities where people do take more concern for a moment because of the severe problems, but i think its not only likely that well see much more than 100,000, but i dont think people understand if we dont change our ways, we are in for the next year of those very kinds of numbers. Dr. Khaldoon, i know that the scientific and medical advice is essentially, weve got to do a reset and maybe go back to the shutdown and maybe do it right a little bit better than we did the last time. Can you imagine the political will in michigan to do that again . Im very proud of the people in michigan. Im proud of governor witmer. She has from day one, listened to the data, but im very concerned. There are simple things like mask wearing political. I am concerned that people are gathering in these large groups. There are many people as kcrosse country where we heard of a bar with covid19 where people were gathering and im confident that michig michiganders can do it. We brought that curve down so im confident we can do that again. You see that its coming back up. Do you have a sense of why . Do you think dr. Khaldun, do you think its younger folks laxing on the requirements or is there Something Else going on . Like i said, we saw our cases come down after march and april. What we are seeing now is as we started reopening the economy, we are seeing people gathering, churches, bars, people having these house parties. Were seeing some outbreaks associated with migrant farmworkers, as well. There are multiple reasons why were seeing an uptick. What were saying is the demographic has also changed. Before june, most of the cases we were seeing were in people age over 50 and now the top casers 20 to 21 age group so thats something were concerned about. Dr. Frederick, you and i have talked quite a bit since the start of the pandemic and early on you were optimistic about Howard University developing its own test and you were almost going to be able to create a bubble on the campus. I know youve made an announcement of the hybrid situation. Are you confident that yoourl have t youll have the testing capabilities that you said three or four months ago . I am. Later this week we hope to sign with a company that i will leave unnamed for now, but theyre going to help us stand up a clear lab at Howard University where well be able to do the testing internally and that will allow for us to have a very good turnaround time. However, with respect to a bubble, we have to be realistic that were bringing students from 46 states and 71 countries. Obviously there are travel bans in place and u. S. Embassies are not necessarily issuing viss is International Students may have a difficulty in returning and bringing people from hot spots, and having students tested before they come and selfquarantine prior to their trips, as well and obviously making tests available on campus. So youre right. Im still optimistic about it, but i do recognize that there are challenges especially with whats taken place in the country as a whole. Dr. Osterholm, this debate about reopening schools. Lets go data driven here. What is the best data to follow on these Decision Makings whether youre opening a campus like dr. Frederick or an Elementary School . Well, i can tell you right now that schools across this country do not have the resources to open this fall with the personnel that they need. We have sent money to the School Districts from the federal government and its far, far too little, its inadequate and not arriving in time and so i think that were going to have some real challenges. There are legitimate concerns in any community right now where you have a hot spot. How can you even begin to think about physically opening schools . Distance learning, surely, could be something you can consider. We have the concern about the protection of teachers and we have to understand that that is in itself still a very hot issue. We do know that students transmit more than they once thought that they did and so we str to address that. At the same time, we know that we have to educate our kids. This is critical and particularly the Younger Age Group k through 8 Distance Learning just does not work. I think we have to, first of all, drive down the Decision Making to the local School District level and those Teachers Want to go to work and those districts want to have school and we want to make sure we get them the resources to do that, and of course that, the wrong answers are driving it down from the National Level saying this is what you must do and not providing the resources that the School Districts need. They need it now desperately. Dr. Frederick, where are you getting the money for all of this . Well, what weve been doing at howard is weve been supported obviously with the cares act funding. Weve also really had some very, very tight management of our overall budget over the course of the past three months, as well. 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Were workrking together, instorere and onlinine, through h pickup andnd delive, to makake sure youou can stil get t the essentntials you n. And d as we moveve forward, knowow that our r first prioiy wiwill always s be to keepepu and our asassociates s safe. Wiwill always s be to keepepu vfighting an invisible enemy s, and caring for our communities with courage and compassion. The covid19 crisis has challenged us like never before. Now, the men and women of americas hospitals and Health Systems are counting on congress and the administration to stand with us, as we stand ready to care for you, in every way, every day. Welcome back. John lewis who died on friday was often called the conscience of the congress, representing atlanta for over 30 years and seen as a moral leader by his fellow democrats and republicans. He was the last surviving speaker of the 1963 march on washington. We dont want our freedom gradually, but we want to be free now. Years later he led more than 600 Peaceful Protesters across the edmund pet tus bridge only o be beaten in bloody sunday. Lewis suffered a fractured skull . Weve been kneeling, weve been knocked down. They started beating us with night sticks and trampled us with horses and released the tear gas. In the years since lewis was joined by bipartisan lawmakers in a symbolic march across that bridge to mark the anniversary. Lewis was last month when he visited the black lives matter outside the washington. I continue to say to the young people if you see something that is not right, fair, unjust, youve got to do something. Congressman john lewis was 80e80 years come on in, were open. Alall we do isis hand you u the babag. Simple. E. Done. This smemells so gooood. Big g thanks to o you guys a at. Werere here righght now. We adadapt and we e change. I i mean you j just fifigure it ouout and d well d do like we e o as s safely as w we can. I i got a new w job. Weve just bebeen findingng a y to keep onon pushing. Were l lookin f for a day at a time e baby. announcer reliability is everything. So, if your networks down, youre down. Verizon knows your customers need to reach you seamlessly. Your team needs to work from different places across many devices. Plus, you want the security trusted by some of the Largest Companies in the world. And thats why you trust us. The most Reliable Network in america. Welcome back. Congressman James Clyburn and john lewis knew each other for 60 years and they served together for 27 years in the house of representatives. Yesterday i spoke to congressman clyburn about his close friend and i began talking about lewis last public appearance at the plaque lives matter plaza in washington, d. C. We talked about how surprised we were at the breakthrough that black lives matter had. It reminded us a little bit of our breakthrough back in the 1960s, and the thing that we talked about was the fear that this movement as successful as it was being could very well be jeopardized. John and i were always talking about how the sitin movement got taken away from us. How we woke up one morning and all of the headlines were burn, baby burn, how people lost sight of our purpose and we were very concerned that it would happen again which was the reason i spoke out so forcefully when people were chasing the headline of defund the police. I did not want to see the success of this movement be taken away with that. So john and i talked about that because we always felt that we could have been much more successful back in the 60s if we had not allowed headlines to get in the way of headway. Its been interesting to see so many people from both sides of the aisle, but i want to focus here. A lot of republicans have gone out of their way and i think its been meaningful and heartfelt. Its there. You know, explain to me, john lewis never seemed to i guess he couldnt taste bitter. He never was bitter, and it seems that he would open his arms to anybody that asked no matter how checkered their past might be on race relations. Thats quite true, and john often got in some uncomfortable moments because he was just so kind to everybody. He really, really believed that he should live out the scripture. He was a minister. Im a preacher kid, but we talked scripture a lot. He internalized so much of the goodness. You know, a lot of people talk about a tribute and theres a tribute saying and i dont think he ever made it, because i cant find it, that america is great because its people of good. If the people of america ever cease to be good, america will cease to be great. John personified the goodness of this country, and i do believe that thats what the fight is all about now. Restoring americas goodness. John believed in that, and i really think that we will honor him, and we should honor him by creating a new on on to replace the 1965 act that was gutted by the Supreme Court decision in shelby seven years ago, and the Supreme Court gave us a road map, and we followed that road map. So when i get back im going to ask the leadership of the house to consider reintroducing that bill that passed since hr4, i believe, reintroducing that, and john r. Lewis as Voting Rights act of 2020 and lets send it over to the senate and then Mitch Mcconnell and the president can demonstrate the real respect for the life and legacy of john lewis by passing that bill in the senate and the president signing it and lets have our election this year in honor of john robert lewis. It would be quite a 2020 achievement in his name. I want to talk about the different ways people want to honor him. A lot of people and youve seen it already on social media its time for the Edmund Pettus bridge, for that name to change. Theres been different debates about that. Let it be named after a segregationist and a racist. Let people understand that, but now a let of people think it is time to name it after john lewis. Where are you, sir . I think i would talk a nice picture of that bridge with pettus name on it. Put it in a museum somewhere and dedicate it to the con fed rassy and rename that bridge and repaint it, redecorate the john r. Lewis bridge. I believe that will give the people of selma something to rally around. I believe that would make a statement for people in this country that do we do believe in that pledge, that vision of this country thats in the last phrase of the pledge with liberty and justice for all. John lewis friend and colleague, James Clyburn. Thats all for today. Thank you for watching. 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