Take a pill. Then cheat on your wife with a porn star, pay her off to win the presidency, and then be forced to defend yourself in court. Its that simple. Then its off to dreamland. [farts] announcer its the late show with Stephen Colbert tonight. Courtroom drama plus, stephen welcomes John Leguizamo and laura coates featuring louis cato and the late show band. And now, live on tape from the ed sullivan theater in new york city, its Stephen Colbert [cheers and applause] stephen there you go. Nice. Please have a seat. Thank you very much. Very kind, you lovely people. Welcome to the late show. I am your host, Stephen Colbert. [cheering] im not surprised these people are in a good mood. It was a beautiful spring day here in new york city. 10 out of 10. Warm, sunny. A perfect day for donald trump to be stuck in a courtroom freezing his drowsy balls off. You know what . To be fair. He is somebodys little boy. But im sure his spirits were buoyed by the show of force today from his legion of maga supporters. When he arrived today, he was greeted at the courthouse by a single fan. Dad go get em, dad you can do it hug . The biggest story out of the trial continues to be trumps adventures in slumberland. And his team seems concerned. Today, trumps eyes were closed at the start of testimony, but his lawyer seemed acutely aware of how important his consciousness is to their case and kept glancing over at his client. Eventually, theyre just going to have to put him on a baby monitor. Oh, no. Hes on his stomach again. I gotta go flip him over. Hold on. Do we have a wedge . Do we have a wedge . The prosecution wants to show the jury that everyone involved in the hush money scheme knew just how critical it was to trumps 2016 campaign. To do that, theyve been getting testimony from Stormy Daniels former lawyer and man asking, so, how do you think this first date i going . Keith davidson. Prosecutors had davidson go through a lot of texts he sent about the hush money deal and asked several times to explain common internet abbreviations. In fact, at one point, he was compelled to tell the courtroom what wtf stands for. Okay. Of course, in any text about trump, it stands for wake the farter. [cheers and applause] allegedly. Allegedly we dont know. Trumps former lawyer Michael Cohen may or may not be a witness in this case, we dont know yet. But trumps lawyers claim that cohen shouldnt be protected under trumps gag order because on social media, cohen has taunted trump, cannot control his bowels. [laughter] sure, laugh all you want. I certainly do. But Michael Cohen is an adult. Its not like he came up with some childish nickname for the former president. Donald von [bleep]inpants. [cheers and applause] stephen i really didnt think id enjoy that as much as i just did. But show some respect, sir. Thats president von [bleep]inpants. That wasnt the only cohen social media post that trumps team objected to. The defense also shared an image cohen posted of trump in an orange jumpsuit, a moment that Court Sketch Artist depicted like this. Wait. Wait, if im in there, how am i out here . Quick tiny me in the box, Say Something only me would know. Dammit, i dont know anything. Should we, maybe. Kiss . Louis wow. Stephen oh, that part is upsetting . We found the line. Cohens taunting hits close to home because reportedly, trump has been privately horrified by the idea of being made to wear one of those jumpsuits. I dont blame him. Theres nothing more humiliating than trying to go to the bathroom in a jumpsuit. All of a sudden, youre fully naked in a stall at whole foods. Its a nightmare. Yesterday was a day off from the trial, so trump jetted off to wisconsin and michigan to perform his hit oneman show, complaining for applause. He held two rallies, and in waukesha, wisconsin, he addressed the divisive issue of abortion by saying its not divisive. In fact, Everybody Loves that he helped overturn roe v. Wade. But basically the states decide on abortion, and people are absolutely thrilled with the way thats going on. Stephen yes. Im being told we have footage. [booing] no, ladies and gentlemen. Im being told we have footage of one suburban voter being absolutely thrilled. [screaming] stephen even though. Even though trump says everyones on board with ending roe, he acknowledges that everyones not on board with ending roe. Let the states make the decision. Let the people decide. Some people will be happy. Some people will be okay. Some people wont be quite as happy. Stephen the guy wants to be a dictator, but as soon as its something people care about, hes like, its out of my hands. Yes, the asteroid is coming. But ive left it up to space and the states to decide where it hits. Some people will be happy. Some people wont be quite as happy. Some people will be crater. At one point, in the wisconsin rally. [cheers and applause] i got a little thing . A little of this . At one point, in the wisconsin rally trump gave a shoutout to a local Business Owner and said one particular word in a totally normal way. Were honored to be joined today by shanna gray, who owns a vaygan restaurant. Im not into the vaygan stuff i must say. Maybe you can convince me with that vaygan food. Were going to come and try that vaygan food. Stephen ill try your vaygan food. Its made with vajetables. Like broocoolee and ownyones, and cayrods, and my favorite porn on the cob. [laughter] im just. Folks, i love it. We all remember. We all remember when madonna sang like a vaygan. Shucked for the very first time. Then trump took a swipe at joe biden. You know when biden went to the beach all the time, hed go to the beach tuesday, wednesday. Somebody, one of his idiot consultants said he looks good in a bathing suit. Hes 81 years old. Historically cary grant didnt look good at 81 in a bathing suit. Stephen excuse me . Are you saying there was an age at which cary grant didnt look good . how dare you, sir. You know what . Im sorry. Jim, im gonna need the furious cam. Grr im so mad. And those totally inappropriate dancing hotdogs make me even more furious stop it stop it donald trump has said a lot of horrible things. But none worse than claiming cary grant did not look good in a bathing suit at any age hot dogs, as you were. When trump wasnt slandering bygone heroes of the silver screen, he was doing party tricks. Here he is asking the crowd for a pen. Give me a pen. Somebody. Come on. Give me a pen. I gotta get a pen. Lets go. Yeah, good, just throw it up here. [laughter] give me a pen please. You think biden can bend down like that . I dont think so. Stephen this. This is where we are as a country. The presidency of the United States could well come down to which old man can pick up a pen. The debates are going to be scintillating. Im wolf blitzer. Our next question is for both candidates. Given persistent inflation, which one of you can climb into this doorless bathtub unassisted . Please. Heres a self lubricating catheter. We here at team late show have been following the tragic career suicide of south dakota governor and talbots mannequin you could swear just blinked, kristi noem. Noem bragged in her memoir that she shot her 14monthold puppy as well as a family goat. [booing] and ill be honest, i was conflicted about whether or not i should keep talking about it, because unlike kristi noem, i dont like beating a dead horse. [laughter] noem went on hannity last night to defend herself. The truth of this story is that this was a working dog. It was not a puppy. Stephen thats right. Important distinction it was a working dog. So noem did not shoot her puppy. She shot her employee. Now, noem says. [applause] noem says shes actually a friend to mans best friend. Im a dog lover. Ive trained dogs for years. Ive been around hundreds of them, of course. Stephen although, before she got there, it used to be thousands. Oh, hey i know. Theres news coming out of boeing, and its about to land on your house. This time, a delta flight had to make an emergency return after an exit slide separated from a boeing aircraft. Thats right, even the exit slides dont feel safe on boeing planes. Ever since that plane yeeted a slide into the hudson, authorities have been looking for it. And now it has been found and this is true washed up at the home of a lawyer whose firm is suing boeing. [cheers and applause] louis wow. Stephen that is an incredible coincidence. Or boeing was trying to send a message. Reminds me of that scene in the godfather. Slide slide slide stephen we got a great show for you tonight my guests are John Leguizamo and from cnn, laura coates. But when we come back, meanwhile join us, wont you . Announcer the late show with Stephen Colbert sponsored by allstate. Youre in good hands. [cheers and applause] stephen hey, everybody welcome back. Weve got give it up for the band. [cheers and applause] im out of here. My brain is gone. My brain is gone. One week back and im toast. Louis, i got distracted. I was thinking about please have a seat, everybody. Thank you very much. I got distracted thinking about our guests. From cnn, laura coates is going to be on to talk about the trump trial and many things. Before that, lovely fella, ive spoken to many times. Always a joy. Big fan and much respect for the gentleman. John leguizamo is going to be out here just moment. Folks, if you watch the show, you know i spend most of my time, right over there, harvesting the days finest zelkova news elm, to make a solid and topical story frame then adding a central lockplate with delicate brass fittings finely incised with myeongtae fish and seoye calligraphy to create for you the beautiful and timeless antique korean Joseon Dynasty pandaji tansu chest that is my monologue. But sometimes, just sometimes, folks, i wake up in an abandoned construction site still shaking from the salvia jitters and rip the door of an old portapotty which i drag over to the opening of a discarded igloo cooler and selfsoothe inside the junkies grumble trunk of news that is my segment. Meanwhile [cheers and applause] stephen its like an Isolation Chamber for the mind where, like, altered states. You can regress into a happy more primitive form of yourself. Meanwhile, hundreds gathered in new Yorks Union Square park this weekend to witness an anonymous man devour an entire jar of cheese balls. I understand everyones concern, but next time, id appreciate some privacy. Meanwhile, airbnb just released a new category called icons, which will allow travelers to rent carls house from the pixar film up, which was recreated room by room. So of all the Wonderful Worlds pixar has created for us, airbnb is letting you and your family stay in grieving widowers house from the movie with the most devastating opening 10 minutes in cinematic history. Okay, kids. Who wants to sleep on the big, empty bed where he cried himself to sleep. Meanwhile, Drew Barrymore accidentally left her sex list at Danny Devitos house. Barrymore admitted this while discussing the trend of folks making lists of people theyve had sex with. To which one high schooler responded, there can be enough for a list . [applause] meanwhile, arcade chain dave busters is planning to let customers place wagers on games. Perfect for anyone whos thought this Birthday Party of icecream and ragefilled nineyearolds isnt quite stressful enough. Whatdya say we make things interesting . Apparently, patrons will be able to place a 5 wager on the chains hot shots basketball game and skeeball competition, which they claim is to elevate the Customer Experience through innovative, cuttingedge technology. cause dave and busters is a hotbed of Cutting Edge Technology like ramp, claw, and air. Meanwhile, in poultryrelated perfume news, kfc is launching a perfume if you fancy smelling like fried chicken. You wanna smell like kfc, you dont need perfume. Just eat kfc. I had one drumstick in november and im still being followed by seagulls. [laughter] meanwhile, its a big week for softdrink innovations because the team of beverage scientists over at sprite labs has announced that the brands latest drink, sprite chill, comes with a cooling sensation thanks to its proprietary blend of cooling agents. Dont sell Food Products using the same language as engine maintenance. High viscosity sprite goes down smooth thanks to our patented compound of manifold lubricant. But if youre worried about imbibing a science project, take heart in the knowledge that sprites research and Development Team went through several rounds of trial and error with the new drink. Yes, they did blind taste tests until the testers stopped going meanwhile. [applause] [humming] according to a new study, alpaca sex is even weirder than you think. Oh, i doubt that. Pretty freaky. Apparently, scientists have found evidence that male alpacas have sex by thrusting their penises all the way up the females uterus. To which men everywhere said, pfff that is so weird because we all know its supposed to be. Different than that . [laughter] dog leg or something . I dont know whats going on. They got this part and they got that. Fun fact. [applause] i dont know. I dont know. Fun fact, male alpacas have long, thin penises that end with a hard cartilage tip, almost like a spear. So next time youre trying to tell a llama from an alpaca, if you see its penis, you are too close to that alpaca. [cheers and applause] meanwhile, a tourist has been fined for getting too close to a walrus in norway. Authorities say the man went out onto an ice floe and disturbed the walrus. How did he disturb the walrus . By describing alpaca sex. Well be right back with John Leguizamo ugh. Cabin crew cross check. That yellows not gonna fly. Buckle up whoa reality checkup theres toothpaste white, and theres crest 3dwhitestrips white. Whitens like a 400 professional treatment. [pilot] prepare for nonstop smiles. Crest. 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Im sorry. I just. Stephen please welcome back to the late show, John Leguizamo. [cheers and applause] john how are you doing . Whoo thank you. Whats up, whats up . Stephen mister, mister. John what an amazing crowd. How do you get such great people . Stephen i pay them. John oh, ive got some cash. Stephen mr. Leguizamo, was lovely to s see you. Please be too great to see you. You are my favorite latenight host ever. Stephen your very kind. Thank you very much. We do its not kind. Its real. Stephen much respect for you could end up being one of my favorite latenight hosts. Because you two weeks ago did a piece on the daily show and last year you did a week on the daily show. John they were making us compete against each other to see who is going to be the host after trevor noah left. They put us all along. I was number two. In the ratings. I didnt think i would have rated that high. Stephen who beat you . John do i have to say . Of course. I love al franken. Al franken was number one. Stephen senator al franken was number one. I was number two. Sarah silverman was number three. Stephen what do you think . The water is fine. Come on in. John you have 25 of the best political writers in america. Five of the best producers of that show. It was like driving a ferrari. It was incredible. Stephen what was your week . What was happening . John trump got indicted. [laughs] john best ratings. No offense. Our ratings were pretty good that week. John thanks for taking the shine off. That mightve had a Little Something to do with it. I thought i crushed it. Stephen you did crush it. You also wrote this in the Los Angeles Times recently, this was in november. You wrote this opinion piece there. It says cozying up to trump, univision is betraying its spanishspeaking viewers. How so . John its kind of insidious. Spanishspeaking only latinos watch univision and thats where they get their news and information. You should be impartial. You should be nonpartisan. And they are not. Its problematic to me. Stephen are they right wing in some way . John i have spoken off the record with some of the newscasters and they said that they were leaning they were pushing them right and they have trump on. They softball the whole questions. They wouldnt allow biden commercials on. They didnt have biden on for a long, long time so i had to call them out on it. I called them out in their marketing people call me back. Stephen what did they say . John they said its not true. You know, we are not really we are doing every thing we can to be nonpartisan. Im like, how are you doing all these things that are not that are leaving very maga . You need to be nonpartial otherwise im going to call you out again. So i wont be on univision. I wont be. They have the highest rated Spanish Language shows. I wont be on. Stephen thats too bad. What does that mean . John the skinny on the fat one. She is skinny and hes heavier. Stephen i get the idea. John your very sharp. Youre from the midwest . Stephen im from south carolina. John even sharper. Stephen youve talked about the American Dream and what it means to latinos. What does it mean to you these days . John the American Dream for me always, is a latin man in this country, you know i saw it and i want today but it was not for everybody. I learned early on that it wasnt for everybody. So much as happened to my parents, how hard they worked. The opportunity. They dont come. I sighed early on. I was very idealistic. I believed in meritocracy. Im at nyu, paying the same as everybody. The only latin guyanese white spaces. Db sweeney my class and andrew mccarthy. You might remember him maybe from the mannequin. He may not want to be remembered from them leave but thats what i remember. They are going to five additions today and im going to one every five months. The casting breakdown back then. I dont know if you remember. It came out fridays to retain what roles were available. It was like jim crow. It would say white actors, white doctor, white lawyer, white romantically, latin drug dealer. Stephen i saw that one. John you better not be try to take my role for me. Its the only opportunity i had. He would ask your agent, can i be seen for these other roles . Can i try my david mamet monologue . They wouldnt see you at all. I knew my opportunities were never going to be the same. They were just never, no matter how talented, how hard i worked. It wasnt going to be equal. Stephen but you still have the idealism is what im asking. John the idealism. Stephen i will tell you i ask. You say the American Dream hasnt always been of everybody. It never was always for everybody. It was for white landowning men originally. And its only through idealism that its expanded. Stephen where were you when i was 19 to tell me the stuff . Stephen i was auditioning for the white guy parts. John you are too busy doing too many auditions. Spiel we have to do a quick break but dont go nowhere. 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Now then. [cheers and applause] youve got a six part series on msnbc coming up. Youve already done one season. Its called leguizamo does america. John like debbie does dallas. Stephen i wouldnt know. John thats why im explaining it to you. Stephen you should think about going to south carolina. John there are no latin people there. Stephen i go back now theres two all spanish radio stations. They are there. John im going to go there then. Wasnt part of my rice and beans comedy circuit back in the day. Stephen how long ago was this . John like five years ago. I go everywhere stephen you made it sound like it was the 1950s when you said that. John like the borscht belt. This was the rice and beans b belt. The latin cities, i go to california, all of texas. All of nevada. Everywhere. Stephen do you do your act in spanish . John no, english, english. Stephen i was just asking, man. John sorry. Stephen you didnt have to yell. John im a new yorker. We yell everything. We are just loud. The subway going by, the sirens. Stephen what do you want to explore with the show . Whats it about . John i am looking at latinx lenses all across america and i find it an embarrassment of riches. We are in every city in america. Weve been here since at least 1492 and before that. From mississippi to the pacific was all mexico until 1840. Everywhere. Doing incredible things. Politicians, grassroots organizers, chefs, james feared nominees and winners. Im eating the best freaking food youve ever had and gaining pounds that i dont give a. Flying fart. Stephen youve got the new show called leguizamo. We saw the clip. Whats that about. John its a really powerful piece. The director, came to me and said i did this research, aram rappaport. In the 1950s the u. S. Government would go into that native american also, with excuses take their children from them and put them up for adoption so i couldnt inherit the land, so they could give it to oil companies. This is all true fact. Stephen sort of similar to killers of the flower moon. John this was the government. That wasnt the government. Oil people and townspeople killing the native american. Stephen the United States federal . John yes, sir. 1950 to 1980. Stephen until 1980 they were taking kids . John yes, sir. We have real testimonials in the series. I dont want to give it away but we have real testimonials. Stephen who are you in that . John i play the fbi guy, self hating latin man. Self hating latin indigenous man. Perpetrating this horrible crime because he wants to pass for white and he wants to be accepted by the afghan he thinks if he does his best job theyre going to promote him and make him king. They dont really use them and spit them out but hes going in there and snatching kids. Stephen its called on something called the network. John the network is a brandnew platform that my brother, aram rappaport, i myself created. Nobody else will put this difficult on the air. About native american people, latin people. Its too hard for them. So we are putting content that nobody else will put on. Stephen how do i get the network . John the network. Stream. Its an app, website. Stephen i just put that in and ill find it . John yes. Stephen what else will at . John john every quarter we released two shows, very curated. The next show is steve coogan show. Stephen hes. John paul rudd, chauncey riley. Its about tensile culture. Another edgy show. Stephen how often you put out new shows. He john every quarter. Stephen when are you getting these skinny in the fat one. I here thats a very popular show. Speaking they are not letting me get a piece of that. Stephen john, thank you so much. John my leisure. All stephen the green veil is available on the new streaming service the network. Stream. John leguizamo, everybody well be right back with cnns laura coates. If you are crispy juicy tender, and pickle bearing. Then you are the one and only mccrispy. 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Ladies and gentlemen, my next guest is the chief legal analyst for cnn and the anchor of Laura Coates Live. Please welcome to the late show, laura coates. [cheers and applause] laura oh, wow. Hi. Stephen nice to have you on. Laura thank you. Stephen ive never had the one before. Its nice to talk. I like talking to our friends over at cnn about the events of the day. Have you done latenight shows before . Laura i have done a few, my own sometimes. Stephen your news channel. Its a little bit different. You are on from 11 00 to 12 00. Laura dont tell cnn because im supposed to be in the bathroom right now i told them. Stephen i want to talk about how you got into this gig. You are in private practice as a lawyer and that a federal prosecutor. For how long . Laura dont ask my age. Hold on a second head was getting ready to happen . Stephen you started at age nine . Laura i did. I was there for five years as a federal prosecutor in washington, d. C. , and before that i was in private practice in minnesota and manhattan. I dont know why i said the state of minnesota and the men had like it was its own place but minnesota and manhattan. Stephen about the same population. Laura sure. Stephen its true. Laura yeah, dont you know . Laura federal prosecutors, y seem like a serious bunch. Wear them a lot because of various trials going on. Laura ive heard. Is it a high pressure, high tension, pulling her hair . Laura its the kind of job are you expected to be perfect, youre expected to be perfect. Of resources but there is the weight, can you imagine your name on the other side of the United States versus. We have a presumption of innocence. People think to themselves they wouldnt charge you if you hadnt done something. You have to uphold not only your position as a prosecutor to be fair but really you are the lawyer on behalf of the jurisdiction and also the defendant. That persons rights matter has much as the person and the community youre prosecuting on behalf of. Stephen enormous resources. When the feds are coming for you make a deal. Because theyll never run out of resources. There might be reasons why the case is called off but they can just keep going. Laura and yet i could never get two legal pads in the same week. [laughs] ever. Stephen he became cnns chief legal analyst. I youve got your own show. How was the transition from law to the media . Laura i thought i had Big Personality in a court room but then i joined the media. Behind the scenes theres a whole different level of personality that takes place. A lot of people feel i will just leave it there. [laughs] ive got to go to work. Stephen we all know Anderson Cooper is a monster. Laura [laughs] i mean, man. Stephen lets talk about this hush money trail. We talk about it a lot. Theres no camera inside. Its not quite as arresting as an o. J. Trial. You got to see that every day. Breakdown the basic argument on both sides. Laura the basics are both sides are kind of framing it incorrectly. The prosecution is saying stephen says the former prosecutor. Laura they say its a hush money trail. They say its a chick town. Its about transparency. You want to know you have the information to make an informed decision about authorities trying to undermine the opportunity to do so you ought to know about it. Thats what this case is about. Its muddy have information or make a campaign called region or try to breath the public from knowing information they otherwise wouldve wanted to know. Before they voted . Stephen some people. [applause] is it, the things that david packer, the National Enquirer differ from port unregistered campaign contribution. Laura the idea, i want your story, im going to buy the rights. I have a reason. I may never publish it. Catch and kill. That happens frankly all the time. What doesnt happen is that you do it no way to try to prevent having to report campaign conjugation. There are limits to that. If you do not report that, the crime is that you are shielding something. Youre hiding something. The trick here is going to be whether you can prove why they did it. Was it just because he was trying to prevent his family from knowing . He says i am a family man and i would never cheat on my wife. [laughter] you can say that. Stephen an impartial jury of new yorkers right there. Laura the prosecution is going to say no, you are doing it because he was trying to do it the benefit of the campaign and even if thats a little bit true, thats enough. Stephen we talk a lot about him falling asleep. Its so exciting. When he is someplace where he cant hide and have another burger break, he falls asleep like any 78yearold man would. We, as we said tonight, his lawyers seem concerned about that. Everything short of poking him with a hot stick to keep him awake. If you were the lawyer, would you be concerned about the client being asleep . What is the downside . Laura he cant possibly pretend that he is woke. [cheers and applause] whats he going to do . [laughter] stephen another big story in the legal world. The new york court of appeals, the highest court here in newark, has overturned Harvey Weinsteins 2020 conviction in new york on felony sex charges. Was that surprising to you . There might be some implication for that meaning the trump case . Laura its a really fascinating split screen. Whenever youre trying to prove your case, you sometimes want to bring in information about the person might not been charged before. Its called a prior bad act. I want to show people that youve got out m. O. Situation. I want to bring it into show the jury it wasnt just a one off. This is whats being done. You have to be careful when you do that if you bring in, say for Harvey Weinsteins case, multiple people who have accused him of the same thing, that are not the actual victim thats alleged in the crime, you run the risk of showing this person mustve done this because they had done other bad things. If youre in a relationship with someone and youre having an argument, you have to fight about what the fight is about. You cant bring up everything else. Stephen i took the garbage out. Laura i know, but we are talking about making dinner, baby. Sorry, that hits very close to home. Sorry, hold on. It was a whole thing on tuesday. The point is you got to fight about what the fight is about. If you bring in everything else, what are we fighting about . Is it that im a bad person are they actually committed the crime. For the trump case that got to be careful about how much they bring in about the m. O. Are you talking about a falsified Business Record or are you talking about catch and kill stories more broadly . Youve got to prove not just a bad actor but that they committed this crime. Stephen laurel, think is much for being here. Laura thank you so much. Stephen Laura Coates Live airs weeknights on cnn. Laura coates, everybody. Well be right back. Its your time to cache in. So dont just play. Stay at northern californias premier casino resort. Book your getaway now. At cachecreek. Com. Stephen thats it for the late show. Tune in next week when ill be joined by tiffany haddish, ryan gosling, and cedric the entertainer. Now stick around for after midnight with taylor tomlinson. Good night