right? these trinkets that people give out as sort of a white house swag. and it was cassidy hutchinson and some of his young staff that said that may be inappropriate. he was very directly manifesting intent to see this effort succeed. jeff clark, he authors that crazy letter that he wants to send to the georgia legislature saying factually there are serious concerns about the election when doj had already exhausted all investigations of alleged voter fraud in georgia and putting forth this legal theory that the state legislature can disregard the popular vote. again, baseless. it didn't get sense because sober smart people in the justice department said no. so absolutely. clark, meadows, giuliani, eastman, the list goes on of people whose conduct manifested an attempt to see this plot succeed. >> john heilemann, so much of what the committee -- first of all, welcome back.

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