Property, no doubt. What else are they doing . How nervous are californians about this, guam . Alex, Today Is The Day to prepare for people here in Southern California. , so you have a mix of people who are concerned, and others that arent really preparing, because they say they live in an area that doesnt flood. Others dont really know what to do. So, possible flooding. California is an area that has a lot of hills of not. And so, people who live in low areas understands what can happen when they get a lot of rain. But people that ive spoken to tell me they have no idea what a Tropical Storm means in terms of that rain. Some of received say they might gets about a years worth of rain in just a few hours. So, they just know it might be an overwhelming amount of water. You see some of the people who are collecting sandbags. Theres locations like this set up all over San Diego County for people in those low areas who, months ago, experienced a lot of rain in california and now the properties cant flood. Heres part of the conversation i had with a resident about the way she is preparing. We are just making sure to prepare for the worst, because we dont know what the hurricane can cause. It could cause, you, no our electricity to go out. It can cause it to happen for him who knows how long . So were going to be stocking up on food, extra water, just so in case that this happen, were going to be prepared. This is something you hear going on in florida, not california so, i dont think anybody is really prepared for the hurricane. And, of course, another concern for authorities in Southern California are the people who live on the streets. California has an issue with the homeless population, both in San Diego County and los angeles county. So, authorities are trying to move people, especially those that camp in the river banks are in lower areas, move them to other areas, where they could be protected from this possible flooding. Meanwhile, the message for individuals that are trying to prepare as best as possible is to get sandbags. Its locations like this to protect the property from that flooding. Also, by water, buy food, enough for a few days, and then have your alerts set up on your phone, something weve been discussing. Make sure that if you live in an area effective, make sure you know where to go on your phone to get the latest information, which, by the way, the latest news indicates the storm is moving a little faster. So some of that rain and those possible floods could begin earlier on sunday, at least here, in the san diego area. At that, we just learned, by looking at our phones and getting those alerts. So, its very important that everyone use their phone to get those alerts for the next few days, as these warnings remain in effect, alex. You know, quote . Can i ask you to take a quick check of the skies there . I want to tell our viewers on here in los angeles, a bit north of where you are. Crystal clear skies. Absolutely beautiful. I was pulling into the studio here, and i thought, what Tropical Storm . But you are closer there. Are the skies cloudy . I mean, is it showing evidence that its on its way . It is cloudy here today. But alex, i was here yesterday, i started speaking to residents and it was hot. It was 82 degrees. I was sweating. It was a beautiful summer day here. Hard to believe the storm is on its. Way we do have a lot of clouds here today, san diego is known for having what they call the marine layer. So, it often gets cloudy like this. So, this is common in san diego but it is a beautiful day. You know, temperatures in the 70s, if feels no likes to be outside. You wouldnt think that the storm is on the way. But yeah, it is, and by tomorrow, we be seeing the rain. We have a conversation with a lot of individuals. Thats exactly what theyre telling me. There is no way it can be that bad. Look how nice it is outside. And some of the people have told me, they are going to stick to their Weekend Plans until they see that rain. But again, its the fact that people here have never experienced a Tropical Storm. , so you really dont know whats coming. Yeah. I want to thank joe, our director, he put up a really beautiful shot of mission bay, but you can see its definitely cloudier. Its that kind of june gloom, except here we are in august. That is very typical down there. Okay, guad. Thank you so much for keeping an eye on things. We appreciate. That were going to go from there now to the big political stories of the day, with a new report which says the fbi is now investigating threats against Georgia Grand jurors after their addresses were leaked online. Were going to have a report on that for you in, just a moment. Nbc news is reporting that trump will surrender to atlantas Rice Street Jail by the end of next week. The deadline to do so is friday, august 25th. Also new today, trump says he will skip the first gop debate. Thats according to two sources familiar with his thinking. That decision is already drawing criticism from his rivals voters in New Hampshire we live in a monarchy, and hes okay . Youve got some issues hes hiding. And all, the [interpreter] weekend, it is fight over the 2020 election could help President Biden in 2024. Heres what New Hampshire governor, chris sununu said earlier about it today. The fact that his entire campaign is based on trying to read a litigate what happened years ago, to bring an opportunities of how working to change the country going forward. So, its successful, playing the victims, that victim card, more indicted and all of that. Weve got reporters and analysts in place covering all these new developments for you. So, right now, we are going to be with nbcs ali vitale, in atlanta. Ali, my friends, welcome, give me the latest on the great latest trajectory look investigation. How did this happen . Well, look. Certainly a lot of concern about this, alex. Because the jurors names were on the form that were put out last week, one reason that mans first went out. But of course, their personal information was not a part of that. Thats why when this fringe website initially posted their information, there was a lot of concern. Its why were seeing the fbi here in atlanta put out a statement that reads, in part, they are looking into this. There is a high degree of concern about it, and each and every potential threat, they say, that is brought to their attention is being taken seriously. Of course, any individuals found responsible for making threats in violation of state and or federal laws will be prosecuted. Certainly, that is something we are going to continue seeing, and look into us the week progresses. You mentioned the fact that the former president , one of the 19 people total who were indicted as part of the Fulton County d. A. s investigation last week, you mentioned that they have until friday to come forward. Our sources telling us that trump probably wont do that until the latter part of this coming week. But of course, it doesnt mean that is not still an active conversation here on the ground in Fulton County. Specifically including the governor of this state, brian kemp, who regularly found himself in trumps crosshairs. The aftermath of the 2020 election loss, and now, speaking out again about it now. Watch. During the whole 2020 election, there was a lot of things, i said a lot of things done, and i follow the law and the constitution. I was subpoenaed for the special grand jury, so, im sure i will be a witness in whatever goes forward. I really cant say much about the indictment. One thing is certain about these indictments, and in my mind, in my opinion, this trial, despite what they, to, my asking for, it is not going to happen. Before the election. Now, we know that the dea, in this case, fani willis asked for this case to start in early march. Right before Super Tuesday elections. Of course, we have watched other prosecutors, alex. Because this is the fourth of that meant of the former president. We watched them try to lay out their ideal calendar, and then, weve watched the Trump Legal Team continued to push back on that, trying to speed the timeline later into the primary or even into the general election season of next year. It means it could be a very busy year, not just on a nominating schedule, but also in terms of the ways the former president will be out on the Campaign Trail and back in the courtroom, all of the states floating around. The only ones that are for certain are the days voters are going to be voting and what is increasingly looking like, voters will have voted in many of these places while these cases are still actively ongoing. Or, for the trials have even kicked off. Oh, so they are trying to use the traffic legal tactic of delay, delay, delay . Yeah, okay. Ali, appreciate that. Just that of, course. A different one, though, we have to talk about, mark meadows did it in that the former president and Rudy Giuliani are reportedly considering it. Whats behind a new move in the georgia rico case, plus, what is fueling this headline about donald Trump Testing the tolerance of justice and his little lawyers. Were back in 60 seconds. Ck in 60 seconds. Behind the team. The coach. The manager. 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One pressing question following the new georgia rico indictment is whether any of trumps trials will happen before the November 2024 election. Trumps very crowded calendar of key gop nomination dates and other civil and criminal trials next year highlights the challenges and complicating matters, the Supreme Court could weigh in with reports trump will try to move his case to federal court. The georgia one, that. Is following former Chief Of Staff, mark meadows, who is simultaneously pushing for an outright dismissal. Joining me now, christie greenberg, former deputy chief of the Southern District of new yorks criminal division, and hugo lowell, political investigations reporter with the guardian. Its good to see you both. Kristie, a former federal prosecutor, what is your best read on timing here . Which trial should go first, and which one do you think prosecutors could wrap up the festus . So, i think the first trial can and should be jack smiths january 6th case. I think that will go in the first half of 2024. Obviously, theres been briefing on those sides with very different trial dates for post for that one. With jack smiths Team Proposed in january of 2024, which seems like an aggressive schedule. Thats the discovery is only going to be substantially complete at the end of august, that would give the trump team really about a month or so to review what is the luminous discovery. So, that seems a little ambitious. But trump proposing April Of 2026 also was just complete delay strategy and posturing. Looking at the schedule he proposed, there is just fears of time or theyre just having stands us conference with nothing being done. And i dont think the judge is going to tolerate it. Really, i do think the first half of 2024 is realistic to get that trial done. Because not only is it in the defendants interest to have a speedy trial, even if this particular defendant doesnt want one, more importantly, its in the Public Interest. This is a former president at the current president ial candidate who is being charged with trying to steal an election and overturn the results of the election. Its in the Public Interest to have that trial, have a resolution, before the election. Okay, you make your case very well there, kristy. What about this with meadows being first to file, notice of removal of his case to federal court. A judge has granted him a hearing on august 28th. Has georgia christy, Lost The Meadows case and does he get to escape booking and arraignment there . Or can georgia make its case to get it back and on what grounds does he asked for his case to be dismissed outright . I know its a lot of questions, but just half at. It sure, so, as of now, he is still a defendant in the case before the Georgia State court. So, he will need to be arraigned on the indictment, and processed to justice any of the other defendants would. As to his motion to remove his case to a federal court, he would have to be able to show and what hes argument in his motion, all of his conduct that is charged in the indictment was all part of his official duties as Chief Of Staff to the president. And i think that is a very challenging argument for him to make. If you look at the acts that are in the indictment, meadows is saying, well i was doing was setting up meetings. I was participating in phone, calls i was setting things up for the president in my role as Chief Of Staff. But when you look at what hes doing, hes doing a lot more than that. He is you know, and trump requested a memo from an individual that had a disrupt and delayed the certification of the count. That is not an accident that our Chief Of Staff is engaged in. That is an act of the campaign. He sent the text to the Georgia Secretary Of StateChief Investigator about ways the campaign could assist financially in speeding up the Fulton County signature verification process. Again, nothing to do with his role as the Chief Of Staff. That is squarely in the role of someone assisting with the campaign. And then you have his participation on the socalled perfect call on january 1st. The Georgia Secretary Of State. Where, he moves, he was seeking on that call to get information for data that would support their claims of Election Fraud. Again, none of that relates to his official duties, so i think he will lose this notion, and i think it will remain in state court. Wow, what are, you some kind of prosecutor . And listening to this going, she just made the whole case. Let me just ask a quick question to you, who go. Trump giuliani have indicated they want to do the same thing, try to bounce this from the state court in georgia to federal court. Will that happen . Well, giuliani at that point was acting as trumps personal lawyer. So, im not sure how he is going to make an argument that he was acting in some official capacity that would yield you know, federal jurisdiction here. , so i would be curious to see what that motion looks like. It doesnt seem like a has legs to me, and as to the president again, i think its the same argument. What he was doing, you, know in trying to stop the count of the electoral votes, that was not anything he was doing in his official duties as president. Those are all things that he was doing to try to campaign and extend his campaign as a candidate. So again, i dont see any of us getting removed to federal courts. You go, you tweeted about trump canceling his big events where he promised to show evidence of Election Fraud. Are you learning why he changed his mind . Did he actually take legal advice or was this another example of similar promises to show proof of something that he didnt keep in the past . Yeah, the way thats been described to me in the last few days, was one of the members on the Campaigns Communications team kind of free arms and ideas to trump without telling the rest of the campaign about holding this Press Conference like he did in kind of the previous indictments at bedminster. And the proposal from its harrington was to kind of present evidence or research that she had compiled about supposed Election Fraud in georgia. When lawyers heard about it, it was a terrible idea, because it caused problems in court down the road, especially if trump is now the one espousing it or giving his voice to some of these claims, but then also his own campaign thought it was a crazy idea, because they would have to start prepping for that, and theres no real upside. Of the combination of the lawyers and the Campaign Staff didnt know about it, and were opposed to it, kind of ultimately killed that. Kristie, is Trump Testing will limits of not just judges, but even his own legal team . If so, what are the dangers of him doing that . Well, i think Trump Lawyers know what theyve gotten into with this particular client. Maybe not listening. So certainly, having any kind of a conference you know, Press Conference as a criminal defendant is something any good Defense Attorney is going to tell their client not to do. Because anything you say there can be used against you. We know there is no proof that he won the election, and if he have that proof, we wouldve seen it already. He had over 60 lawsuits where he presented no such evidence. He had an opportunity. His lawyers had an opportunity to meet with the Special Counsels office before he was charged in that case. If they had really solid evidence that wouldve exonerated him, surely, they wouldve brought that to the Special Counsels office and attention. He also had an opportunity to go to the grand jury under oath and plead his case. He did none of those things. The reason he didnt do any of those things because there is no proof. And so going in a Press Conference and sort of spouting out more lives . That is just ammunition for prosecutors. So, any lawyer is going to tell him not to do that, its a good sign that he cancels it, maybe he is finally listening. Okay. You go, nbc news is reporting that trump will turn himself in though sooner than next thursday. What are you hearing from his inner circle about the plans for his arraignment . And do you know if it will be televised . Yes, so, there was some discussion immediately after the indictment about him potentially surrendering at the Fulton County jail on wednesday evening, because that, of course, is the night of the first republican primary debate, and they but that has been shot down from what we understand. For various reasons, including trump of invest in the guided self, but it sounds like trump is going to basically turn himself in, either thursday or friday, you know, you noted earlier that house until friday at noon. They definitely want to do that. They dont want to be in the Situation Room they missed the deadline and trump actually gets arrested. I think that will be a terrible look, so, we should expect to see something maybe thursday morning, though, by some sort of Press Conference after. I think that is still being decided, exactly what trump wants to do. But he its going to want to turn this into a spectacle, as much of a circus as much as he can. And you say c, does that mean on tv . Will we see this . Well, its difficult to know how long he is going to spend in the Fulton County jail. Its an actual jail. Its like, you know, its a complex or you have cameras outside, not clear how close or what kind of combinations what might be made. The Fulton County sheriff has said that he wants to treat trump like any other criminal defendant, and so, its probably unlikely, i think, that were going to get cameras in the complex. But i think we should expect to see him arriving, with the Secret Service detail, you know, maybe the weight of cameras. Its donald trump, and hes going to find a way as much as he can to get it on tv. One more quick question, to, hugo, about the fact that you have been keeping an eye on the federal classified documents case in florida. His lawyers, as you know, are making a new request to judge aileen cannon. She wants to order the Special Counsel to explain scheduling in the d. C. Case. How likely is she to get involved in that . Its a good question. We dont. Now you are supposed to have or they were supposed to be a public conference with the judge, amy cannon, and in appeals with the Special Counsels team and the trump team to discuss kind of various discovery motions. Thats been canceled. Its been now held on sale because it pertains to how trump is going to handle classified discovery. We had thought that other issues might come up in that hearing, but now that is under seal, we wont know for sure. I think its an interesting question they raised, because the time tabling its starting to get very, very crowded. Oh, yeah. And the Special Counsel has suggested conflicting gates, though, i should mention that the dates suggested in the latest filing were kind of just an estimate or a road map that the judge is going to set her own timing herself. Ultimately, okay. Kristy and hugo, its good to see you both. Many thanks. Coming up next, the story of help and hope on that. We i go to spin classes with my coworkers. Good for you, shingles doesnt care. Because no matter how healthy you feel, your risk of shingles sharply increases after age 50. But shingrix protects. Proven over 90 effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. 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Also saying that now, about 60 of that total search area has been scoured over by workers combing through the wreckage in what is a heartbreaking, painstaking process, especially for families looking for answers. About 470 workers, 40 cadaver dogs on the ground as well, trying to do all they can to search that area, meanwhile, there is more questions about investigation into what happened. The emergency manager, the top Emergency Management official in maui, stepping down a few days ago, citing health reasons. But there have been mounting criticism against the response, specifically why those Emergency Sirens were not wrong at the time the fires broke out. The emergency manager defended his decision not to bring the sirens, saying they are typically used for tsunami. She was worried that people would actually head up into the hills, towards the fires, is the reason why. Now stepping down, of course. Meanwhile, new lawsuits against hawaiian electric, the top Energy Power Provider here in the state, with allegations that their equipment may have sparked the fires. There has been a whole lot of Video Evidence supporting that, but no cause has been given. The atf now on the ground investigating that cause as more and more families are getting more desperate to find out exactly whats happening, with more than 1000 people still missing here on the island of maui. Alex . Excruciating time. Okay, Steve Patterson, thank you. Coming up next, peter baker, chief New York TimesWhite House Correspondent and irregular, of course, on this show, something he wrote in his latest article about donald trump and the Camp David Summit caught my eye. It probably caught yours, too. So, im going to ask him about it, next. It, next an allinone cleaning tool with a 360degree swivel head that goes places a regular mop just cant. Mop smarter with the new swiffer powermop. 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Meanwhile, the New York Times reports trump was in a way part of fridays historic at Camp David Summit, between the u. S. , japan, and south korea. Quote, while the former president s name appeared nowhere in the Camp David Principles that the leaders issued at the president ial retreat, one of the subtexts was the possibility that he could return to power in next years election. Joining me now is peter baker, msnbc political analyst, chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times, and coauthor of the divider, trump in the white house, 2017 to 2021. Hello, my friend. So, you coach wrote that piece and when you say subtext, what did you mean by that . Was trumps possible white house return explicitly brought up by any of the leaders, and do they really think that is possible, with Everything Trump faces right now . Im so curious about The Big Picture perspective from outside the united states. Yeah, no, they never mention trump by name until a reporter asked about it, of course. But if you listen to what they were saying, what they were trying to say is they wanted this newfound, emboldened, strengthens alliance, three way alliance, to be lasting. To be entering. To be something that goes beyond simply this administration and the next one. In effect, they are trying to lock in, you, now a partnership that was challenged deeply by President Trump when he was in office. Remember, of, course President Trump with a very paul double player in asia. He threatened to pull america out of south korea. He canceled military exercises at the behest of north korea. I want, when he threatened to pull out of the neutral Defense Treaty with japan. So, the leaders in asia have been very nervous about the idea that trump could come back and, once again, throw instability and volatility into the relationships they value. Yeah. The other big mind i mentioned, peter, that trump skipping first gop debates, what goes into that calculation . It see worried about being attacked by people like Chris Christie . Would anyone else take him on directly . Well, you now, you have to think of course, if he gets up on that stage, you know, his legal issues become front and center of the conversation, at, least to some extent. Certainly, Chris Christie will do it again to make it that way. Whereas, i think you have a feeling with tucker carlson, hes not going to have to worry about any hostile questions. Which, of course, is remarkable if you look at those emails released when dr. Carlson making clear privately, he doesnt particular care much for donald. Trump probably, hes been very supportive. At this is way of controlling his message, controlling, you know, how you convey them self. , so you dont elevate the other candidates who are white, wave a hind. Him by putting him on the steam stage, its his way of basically dominating the conversation that we always have. And you know hes got six days to surrender in georgia. Do you have insight, peter, on when that will happen, exactly . Will trump used the spectacle of his to rest to defer attention from the debate . I know that was a possibility for wednesday night. At one point. It was a possibility. That latest report ive seen, i dont have any personal reporting on the latest reporting. Epstein suggested might wait after the debate, thursday and friday of next week. You know, i have to say in the Political Class as ive remember taking at school, i dont remember the handbooks that turn yourself in for arrested arraignment is a good way to counter the bay opponents. So, who knows. He does like to make a show out of things. He does like to sort of be the center of attention. , somehow find a way to do that as best as he can. Yeah, thats the handbook that you study from. I think theyre going to have to rewrite the handbook, because apparently, this is par for the course. But let me ask you about what he did with canceling the News Conference already promised to show proof that disputes then new charges. , peter is somewhat unusual, the points youve been making, that he would declined the chance to air his grievances publicly. So, what derailed this event . Did he just not half the facts he promised . There is no evidence of that, . Right for some reason, two and a half years later, there was some secret evidence nobody has seen, and suddenly, it would change every by the everybody understands about the election . Seems very hard to imagine. So, i think canceling it allows him to pretend or say there is proof that nobody thinks that there is. And hes able to say well, my lawyers told me not to do it. I should save it for court. And that way, he is telling his base, no, really, the election really was stolen, i was justified to what i did. Theyre just really coming after me because they are trying to cover up the truth. Even though as we all know, there is no evidence whatsoever that george or any of the other State Elections where, in any way, you know, fraudulent enough to change the outcome. Multiple states are different required to change as president. And as you know, theres a couple of new polls out that for the majority of americans dont view trump or his legal troubles favorably. 53 are saying they were definitely not support trump if he is the nominee. Another poll, in which 50 think that trump should suspend his campaign, do you think the general public is feeling these georgia charges as particularly damning, peter, or do you think its the stream, this constant drip, these four indictments that have come his way in the last four months . Lets remember, of course, donald trump is never for a single day in political life had the support of the majority of americans. Even when he won in 2016, he won without winning the popular vote. He didnt get a majority in any gallup poll asking for Approval Ratings for a single day of his presidency. No other president in history of the polling has ever been as unpopular. He of course, did not win the 2020 election. So, hes never actually had the support of the majority of the public. It doesnt mean you cant win, and that is, of course, the challenge for democrats. You cant be somebody but nobody, but that assumption is, as weak as President Biden is in the polls, and he is still historically, week, the public at me and still does not want donald trump. That will be the saving grace in 2024, no matter how much trouble the presidency to be. All right, well keep talking about this, no doubt, my friend. Thank you, peter. Have a good saturday. So, what is trump going to do next week, surprise us all and show up lastminute at the debate . My next guest, might know better than those two what to expect. 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So, while trump has until friday to turn himself in for booking on charges in georgia, rather, a new nbc news article asks whether he could time his arrest to coincide with the debate. This, as Law Enforcement officials expect trump to surrender no earlier than thursday, and thats according to three senior Law Enforcement officials familiar with the plan. But again, who Distrust Nothing is official yet. Joining me now is stephanie grisham, former White House Press secretary and Communications Director under President Trump, and author of all take your questions now, what i saw at the trump white house. Its good to have you here. I want to know what you see him doing next week. Mighty turned himself in on debate night . Keep the focus on, him instead of his competitors . I know it says hes not going to debate, but do you think there is any chance he shows up and gets in it . So, ive been thinking this whole time that he would turn himself in on debate night i mean, that would be eight move, right . Its exactly what you said. They would suck all the oxygen out of the room, out of the air, on that day. I dont know if hell do that. Thats if i had to bet, i think that i would put a little money down on that. I know he has to decide and tell the rnc by monday if hes going to do the debate. Again, it wouldnt surprise me at all if he, at the very last minute, you know, couldnt stand all the attention these other candidates are going to get and decided to show up. Its hard for him to turn down any kind of high tv ratings or potential. And i know he has agreed to some kind of online interview with tucker carlson, people are pretty excited about the debate. So, it wouldnt surprise me, i dont have a crystal ball, i cant say yes or no, but thats so trump, again, to show up and suck the air out of the room, and to make this big, grand appearance. Yeah, and to your point, and that used to tell the rnc monday what the rnc is going to tell them, if he tells him was that afternoon, not gonna be there tonight, no, cant be, theyre of course they will let him there. So, lets talk about when he does surrender in georgia. He is expected to be treated like any other defendant. Former Watergate Special prosecutor jon sale spoke to msnbc about what that could mean for trump, take a listen to what he said. I believe Chris Christie is right when he says donald trump is afraid to go to prison. And if hes going to be booked like Everyone Else in atlanta, hes going to spend hours actually locked up, and he might entertain a possible plea bargain. Can you even imagine donald trump in jail . Is that possibility so abhorrence to him that he might take a plea deal . No. I dont think he would ever take a plea deal. That is just not in his nature. He will never admit that hes wrong. I think that his plan if he will win the presidency, and try to get out of it. I know this is a state charge in georgia. Is a little bit different. But he will never take a plea deal in my opinion. Now, i do think and have to thinking this all week, the fact that he has to go to the jail to get booked and they are talking about a mugshot and fingerprints and having to actually sit there for hours, that is going to upset him. But i think it will be more of an ego if you rather than fear. , not get me wrong, he has got to be terrified of a thought of going to jail. I just think his ego is such, and people around him are telling him it will be fine. It will be fine. You did nothing wrong. That he hasnt quite gotten there yet. So, trump and the analyze in terms of doing nothing wrong, yet, they are charge with racketeering in georgia. Its a sweeping 41 count indictment that names Rudy Giuliani, john eastman, mark meadows, among others. Who do you know, stephanie, who do you not know in this group . How might trump world be reacting . Is there legit concern that someone, or many people, could flip . Yeah, i think theres always going to be, i think with all four cases, theres going to be an issue or a possibility that somebody could flip. I know trump world are still concerned about mark meadows. I know him quite well, and ive known him to do whats best for mark. I can see him flipping for sure. I know jen ellis, i know rudy, i dont think rudy has shown hes going to be loyal to the end, unfortunately. Because trump is not reciprocating that. That poor mans going broke over that. So, i think some of the lower level people, especially in georgia, they will probably flip. They probably dont have the means, the resources, to pay for the attorneys that this is going to take. So, i think people should be really worried about that in trump world. I personally dont know those people. But those are the people i would be concerned about. And again, i know mark meadows is a big piece of suspicion right now for them for a few of the different cases. He hasnt been indicted in anything with georgia, but i would keep my eye on him, for sure. You know that he canceled his News Conference replanted this credit the georgia case. Trump said his lawyers convinced him to places evidence of socalled Election Fraud into legal filings. What do you think happens . Is that the full explanation . I dont mean to laugh, i just have pictured. I think yes. I do think his Attorney Says this is a bad idea, and if i know, i, mean there are so many times in the white house with our white House Counsel threatens acquit sometimes. Like, if you do this, i wont represent you, sir. I could see Something Like this happening here, because im sure he very much wanted to have this Press Conference. I understand liz harrington, one of his spokespeople, has been working on this report as a pet project. Im sure that he thought that he is going to show everybody up. But im sure people said no, and maybe even threats in the. Because i cant imagine who for any other reason. Do you think trump wants cameras in the courtroom . I do. I imagine, again, his ego cant understand right now that he might look bad. He knows that by and large, his base well just say theyre line, theyre lying, theyre lying, and he will take great pride and happiness, having their arms crossed and him blaring at that council et cetera. I think he always wants cameras around. He wants cameras around when they shouldnt be around. [laughter] yeah. Let me ask you, finally, about the exclusive that says Melania Trump is carrying on after the georgia indictment, calling it another problem for her husband, not her. You worked closely with melania. Is it that simple for her . I think its that simple in terms of, you know, showing public displays of support. Its just not in her nature. Im sure she is supporting him the best that she can in private. Shes a very private woman. I do think she has the mentality of this is his problem, but not in a cold, heartless way. She just thinks he is a Strong Enough man that she doesnt need her to prop him up. Thats something that saved with me quite a bit. I know shes probably really concerned about their son as well, and keeping him sheltered from this as much as possible, if thats possible. So, im sure shes going about doing exactly what she wants to do. But im sure shes also supporting him in whatever ways she can behind the scenes. Okay, stephanie grisham, thank you for your conversation in supporting the show. Its always good to see you, my friend. Thank you. You too. The important guests heading to hawaii and the impact that his visit might have. Until i found some information. Birth certificate. Wow. 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Right now, President Biden and the first lady are preparing to serve in the devastation in maui, as the death toll rose again overnight. Nbcs Karina Jackson is in washington for us. Pre, welcome. What does the president and what do State Officials hope to accomplish during his trip . Which, by the way, he will have to be wearing his mantle that hes well known for as consoler and chief. Thats right, good afternoon, alex. So, President Biden and the first lady will travel to maui on monday to meet with state and local officials. First responders and survivors, who will also get a firsthand look at the aftermath of the deadly wildfires, which, as you mentioned, have killed more than 100 people and the death toll continues to rise. Now, during his trip to maui, President Biden is also expected to discuss the next step in recovery efforts. The white house says, it has more than 1000 federal personnel on the ground and are encouraging survivors to apply for federal aid. So far, fema will approve more than five point 6 million in assistance. Meanwhile, the president s trip on monday. It does follow his historic summit at camp david on friday. Now, that was the first time that President Biden hosted foreign leaders at his president ial retreat, sending a strong message about the importance of this trilateral summit. While both countries are strong individual allies at the u. S. , they do have a long history of disputes with each other. So, fridays meeting signaled a dramatic improvement in their relations. The three nations uniting over mutual concerns, including north Koreas Nuclear provocations and rising tensions with china. During fridays summit, President Biden unveiled various economic and security agreements, including a new Crisis Hotline for the nations to consult each other in the face of a crisis. Heres more from President Biden. Doubling down on information sharing, including on the dprk s missile launches and cyber activities. Strengthening our Ballistic Missile defense cooperation and critically, critically, weve all committed to swiftly consult with each other in response to threats to any one of our countries or whatever source it occurs. And even before it began, the summit drew Harsh Criticism from china. A Chinese Foreign ministry spokesperson, calling it a click and saying, the meeting will spark vigilance. The white house pushed back saying, the partnership is not at nato for the pacific. President biden says, he does have to meet with chinese president xi jinping later this year, but no so far, no date has been set, alex. Okay, brie jackson there in d. C. , thank you, brie. Thats going to do it for me on this edition of alex witt reports. I will see you again from l. A. Tomorrow at one pm eastern. My friend, yasmin vossoughian, continues our coverage right now. N, continues our coverage right now. Hi everybody, its good to see you, im yasmin vossoughian. On a very busy saturday afternoon, we are going to start with Hurricane Hilary. Category three heading for the california coast. Im going to get the very latest track, just out from the National Hurricane center in just a moment. Also, thats happening as millions of people in hillarys path get ready for what could be a catastrophic storm. Weve also got new reporting. On failures that may have contributed to the high death toll in hawaiis wildfires. Plus, we are following the latest with the former president. We now know hes not planning to turn himself into georgia authorities before