Tonight, the battle for the white house is all but set. And it is looking like a biden trump rematch. Steve kornacki is here with the latest on tuesdays primary results. Plus, the heated moments on capitol hill. Both republicans and democrats grilling Special Council Hur over his report on President Biden. Then, is the Clock Ticking on tiktok . The bipartisan effort in the house to block the app. Whats at stake in this bill as The 11th Hour gets underway on this tuesday night. Good evening once again. Im stephanie ruhle. Live from new york city. And we are now 230 days away from the election. And it is a very, very big night for the candidates. With tonights primary results, nbc news is now officially projecting that President Joe Biden has won enough delegates to be officially named the democrats presumptive president ial nominee. And President Trump at this point is very close will to doing the same with the republican nomination. But nbc news projects it is too early to call that one. With that, you know where we are headed. To the big board where Steve Kornacki is standing by. What can you tell us . Reporter any minute now, we expect to start getting results from the state where polls have now just closed. That is Washington State. You see the characterization of this republican contest here. Nikki haley dropped out. Her name remains on the ballot. And one of the things in washington, remember, this is extensive mailin voting. Almost universal mailin voting in Washington State. And in georgia, there was heavier mail in voting. Some of those were cast before nikki haley dropped out of the race last week. So her name is on the ballot and a lot of people participated in this primary probably still thinking she would be a candidate on march 12th so keep that in mind. We expect her to get some votes but we also expect donald trump to get the clear majority as he has in ever other contest. As he did on super tuesday. All he needs from Washington State are 30. It is even less now. Let me show you where we stand. Three more were added to trumps totals. He has now swept all of the delegates from georgia tonight. All of delegates to mississippi. Now actually he is only 27 delegates away from the 1215 needed to win the republican nomination. And again, 43 at stake here in Washington State. 27 gets trump there. You will get a lot of batches. What we saw in georgia and mississippi is trump winning so overwhelmingly here, it doesnt take many of those batches to get the race called. So, assuming that is what happens here, fairly shortly, should hit that 1215 mark and what you will see is what we already have for joe biden. Aened that is the declaration will appear on your screen that donald trump is the Presumptive Republican nominee. We will see a check mark next to his name. Both parties officially nominate their candidates at their conventions. That will take place this summer. They will have a roll call of the state. We are talking about pledged delegates in the republican race and in the democratic race. Delegates who are bound at that convention to vote based on their allocation in these primaries. So donald trump will have more than that number. Locked in. Pledged delegates. Bound to vote for him at the convention. That is what he is closing in on. We will wait on that and show you what happened earlier tonight. In mississippi, trump over 90 gets all 40 of the delegates. To georgia, 59 delegates at stake. More than 90 and trump gets them all. You see haley getting double digits here. 13 again, remember. A lot of these votes were cast before she dropped out of the race. We are seeing in georgia what we have seen in other states throughout the primary process. The haley vote has been the strongest and the trump vote has been the weakest in the big suburban areas in the city of atlanta. But outside the city of atlanta. Those are trumps weakest counties relatively speaking tonight. We have been asking the question throughout the primary season. We have known since 2016 trump struggles in the suburbs. That trump can lose General Elections because of the suburbs, this reflect any new weakness or the weakness we knew was there . We wont know the answer until november but it is a story line. Just checking back in on washington, we dont have our first votes there. Joe biden clearing his partys threshold. It took georgia for biden to do that. Almost all the vote tallied now. 95 statewide. That did as we say, give him the check mark and make him the presumptive nominee of the democratic party. He was in mississippi the only name on the ballot. That is the result you get when you are the only name on the ballot. On the democratic side, they are also having a primary in washington. On the republican side that will take place later tonight will be the caucuses in hawaii. 19 delegates there as well. Here we go. Votes coming in now in washington. Okay. We have 23,000 votes in. Statewide here. And here is trump running at 83 . Nikki haley at 13 . In terms of the allocation of delegates, if you get a simple majority statewide, you get 13 delegates off the bat statewide. The other delegates are given out by congressional district. Each district is assigned three delegates. If you get a simple majority, you get all three. So theres 30 delegates, 13 at the statewide level. You can see trump, there is, oh, here it comes. I think you are getting it stephanie. You got it steve. Nbc news is now officially projecting that donald trump has won enough delegates to be named the republicans presumptive nominee. You were right, steve. He got the numbers. Yeah, look how fast it starts to come in. This is the state of washington where it is done all by mail. They had 1. 4 million between both parties primaries that came in prior to today. So they can get those processed and counted. Trump easily passed that 50 threshold statewide. And so, right there, he gets a big bunch of delegates. Congressional districts as well. Again, he only needed 27 here to hit that number. Right now, he has gotten 31 of the 43 by our decision best. That makes donald trump the presumptive nominee. Each party now has a candidate who has reached the threshold. Crossed the threshold of pledged committed delegates to the convention to ensure a first ballot nomination. The question we had earlier in the day, was this the earliest that has ever happened . A lot of folks have been looking at the biden trump rematch and says this feels like it will be the longest general Election Campaign ever. Is it . Here is the interesting thing about that. The date by which both parties, candidates, hit this threshold, we are talking about tonight this delegate threshold. In the year 2000 and in the year 2004, that occurred with 239 days to go before the General Election. Those were coming into today tied for the record by this metric Of Longest General Election ever. That was bush, gore in 2000. Bush kerry in 2004. Well, it is just an hour before midnight on the east coast. So it is still march 12th by our calendar here. And between now and election day, there are 240 days so we set a record by one calendar day. This is the earliest both candidates have crossed the threshold. And this will be the longest general Election Campaign of the modern era. I know when you say that, it is a subjective feeling for a lot of people and they may feel it is a day longer than all the others. Just what everyone was hoping for, steve. The longest official election season ever. Joe biden versus donald trump. Steve, thank you so much. I want to bring in our Leadoff Panel tonight. Much to discuss. Mike joins us. He has covered President Biden. His family and his inner circle of advisers for over a decade. Katie is here. And glenn. Former federal prosecutor. Chief law explainer for The 11th Hour. President biden has secured the nomination. His campaign is now fully moving into General Election mode. Whats the game plan . It is remarkable. These two men, donald trump, President Joe Biden have been circling one another for the better part of the last year. This is the General Election both campaigns had expected. Maybe not the majority of americans expected. And frankly, not that the majority of americans wanted. But it is what we will see the next year and i find it very interesting what is on the president s schedule tomorrow. He will be headed to wisconsin. He has a mix of official and campaign stops. What do we know as he is now the presumptive nominee . President biden will be in the state and the president has really upped his game. He has stepped into a new year starting with that state of the Union Address last week. He ramped up his travel schedule. His campaign has ramped up its ad spending and you are going to see them with the full court press, the president , the Vice President , to make the case to the country for four more years for President Biden. But really this is a Campaign Running on two pillars about continuing the economic progress that the president thinks he has helped lead over the last four years but preserving and protecting our democracy for the foreseeable future as well. He came out swinging at the State Of The Union and he has been punching ever since. Now lets turn to the other big political story in dc today. The capitol hill testimony of former special Council Robert hur. I want to share a bit from gabe gutierrez. Reporter Tonight The Fire Storm over President Bidens handling of classified documents is reigniting. Reporter robert hur, a former trump appointed u. S. Attorney testifying about his report. Recommending no charges. We identify evidence that the president willfully retained classified materials. We did not however identify evidence that rose to the level of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Reporter hur defended including damaging details about President Bidens mental acuity including that the 81 yearold president had diminished faculties and would present himself to the jury as an elderly man with a poor memory. I did not sanitize my explanation or disparage the president unfairly. Reporter but hur was grilled by republicans. Joe biden broke the law. Because he is a forgettable old man who would appear sympathetic to a jury, mr. Hur chose not to bring charges. Reporter and democrats. You chose a general pejorative reference to the president. You understood when you made that decision that you would ignite a political fire storm . Politics played no part whatsoever in my investigative steps. Reporter he said the president could not remember the year his son beau died. But the transcript released it was the president himself who brought up his sons death as nbc news previously reported. The president asked what month did beau die . Oh god, may 30th. Others respond, 2015. Then the president asks was it 2015 he died . Why did he say it was robert hur who brought up his death . It shows he was being asked by the Special Council about the book he wrote about his sons untimely passing. Reporter classify documents were found in his home and all were returned. The democrats heard what they want today hear and the republicans heard what they wanted to hear. Did anyone actually learn anything that changed their Point Of View . You know, steph, i would say not anything of substance. But the real beef i have with what Special Council Hur decided to include in his report is once we know that it was his assessment, there was insufficient evidence to bring a criminal charge, why in the world do you go onto assess how somebody who will not be charged with a crime might appear to a jury. Guess what, he is never going to be siting in front of the jury. So i dont know why he had to gratuitously say i think a jury would think of him as old and forgettable. But there is insufficient evidence and he would never appear before a jury, that to me, steph, felt like hur was engaged in a little clear them and smear them. Thats the way it came off. Well, glen, that is sort of like how can these two things be true . That robert hur says joe biden has a photographic memory and at the same time, his memory is impaired so much that he would be sympathetic to a jury . How do those things square . I dont think they do square and the questioning was pointed about how. Hur had to acknowledge he used the word photographic memory. And that was absent from his report. What was in his report is how a jury might assess joe biden after he concluded joe biden would never be siting in front of a jury. Mike, when donald trump was investigated, he fund raises off of it. He makes it central to his campaign. The government is out to get me. How is President Biden approaching his issue . The issue of the Special Council for him . Well this has been a difficult issue obviously. Think back just a month ago when special counsel hur released his report. A bomb shell that added to the anxiety of whether President Trump was up for this reelection race. That the president was an elderly man with a poor memory. I was able to read the full transcript of the interview the Special Council based that assessment on. It was released publicly before the Special Council met today. And it led to the democrats on the panel and the white house certainly amplifying. The idea that the full picture revealed in that interview in october was much different in their view than what the Special Council had conveyed. This is not something they will lean into, that they will campaign on, they feel like this was a moment perhaps to try to move beyond this. To put this beyond them. There will be republicans certainly made it clear today. They are not done with this investigation. They will try to continue to do what they can. To continue to frankly smear President Biden. To use the investigation to launch political attacks on him. But the president will be trying to keep his focus on the core issues in this election. The economy, and democracy itself. Glen, lets talk about depositions in general. Republicans keep bashing President Biden for saying he couldnt recall this or that in his interviews but dont lawyers across the board encourage clients who are being deposed to say i dont know, i dont recall so they can wrap things up . Its a fine line. And a lawyer should never council his client to feign a lack of memory. But i do think the safer course is and you tell your client, i told witnesses this as a prosecutor. Dont try to fill in gaps in your memory. If the truthful answer is i dont recall, you are obliged to give the truthful answer i dont recall. I always told witnesses listen, i dont recall. I dont know. Im not familiar with those facts. Those are appropriate answer as long as they are truthful but dont pretend like you dont remember something that Everybody Knows you remember. Katie, this hearing was obviously not an official part of the republicans biden i impeachment inquiry, but they were looking for anything they could use. I dont think either side found anything of substance. There are many times when hur just didnt reply or didnt speak. It was an opportunity for politicians to get clips of themselves. Being for their constituents. Pro or anti biden. The republicans did score some wins when Congressman Jiapal said this exonerates President Biden. This will be a clip that plays all throughout the election season. And the democrats came back with their own hits. They kept saying over and over again, reading from hurs report, this is what makes President Trumps behavior as alleged in the indictment serious. They could use that as a clip, President Biden had not been as bad as President Trump. So, everybody was out getting their campaign material. I would say the republicans, they did get possibly things that will be more effective with their base. Katie, former doj official Jack Goldsmith wrote in your paper that Special Councils are supposed to conduct sensitive investigation thats are and appear to be fair and apolitical but they have failed at that goal and should no longer exist. You covered the doj. What do you think . So i thought this was really a fascinating op ed and it is something that merrick garland, the attorney general, he sort of touched upon in a different way when he became the ag. He never said special counsels shouldnt exist but the Justice Department, the men and women of the Justice Department should be able to handle the trickiest cases because the American Public should have faith in the rule of law. And in the professional behavior of our law enforcement. What Jack Goldsmith is arguing is the idea of a Special Council was supposed to preserve that. Create a little critical distance. With an almost third party with takeover. Clearly if you look at all the special counsel investigations going back to bill clinton, i dont think we can say it brought the country together. Clinton investigation did not bring the country together. The Mull Investigation did not bring the country together. And what we saw from the Hur Testimony Today was egregiously very partisan. What he is arguing is if we are not going to believe in the rule of law, there is no way that this special counsel will be a fig leaf to make things better. Is there Something Else we should be doing . I think what he is getting at is this bigger problem of a loss of faith in american institutions. If we dont believe in the rule of law. If we believe everything is partisan and nothing is real, no prosecution will be able to stand up against that cynicism. It is hard to bring people together on the most politically charged issues. Thank you all for starting us off on this very big official night. When we return, President Biden is not the only one with millions of dollars to spend against trump. We will look at a massive new ad campaign from a Republican Group against the former guy. And later, the house is set to vote tomorrow on a bill that could ban tiktok. How soon could our most addictive app disappear . The 11th hour just getting underway on a tuesday night. Underway on a tuesday night. My name is oluseyi and some of my favorite moments throughout my life are watching sports with my dad. Now, i work at comcast as part of the team that created our ai highlights technology, which uses ai to detect the major plays in a sports game. Giving millions of fans, like my dad and me, new ways of catching up on their favorite sport. The blood bath within the rnc continues with Team Trump Ousting Veteran Staffer as they race to remake the organization. On the flip side, one group is working overtime against donald trump launching a massive 50 million Advertising Blitz that uses his former voters against him and this group has nothing to do with the biden campaign. Watch this. Im a former trump voter. I voted for donald trump in 2016 and 2020. In 2020. I voted for trump again. I will never support donald trump. I will not vote for him in 2024. He has so much baggage. He is the biggest threat to our democracy. He kept denying they lost the election. He was responsible for the violence january 6th. He could have prevented it. Trump talking retribution. Going after people. The disrespect of our military. The military people he has disgraced. 91 criminal felonies. Four different indictments. He mishandled classified documents. Taking documents. Now his desire to do away with nato. Donald trump talks about abandoning ukraine. He will be a dictator on day one he says. For more on this, lets bring in robert gibbs. White House Press Secretary for president obama. He is now the cohost of the hacks on tap podcast. A cofounder of the Lincoln Project is here. Reed, your group knows a thing or two about trump attack ads. What do you think of this new campaign . I think it is fine. And i hope it really works. I think we have seen in the past this is the kind of stuff that might help hold in some places but we must remember the politics is an emotional business. A lot of money. Though they probably wont tell me,ly be interesting to see what the underlying data and targeting is. This was the kind of thing tried during the iowa caucuses. I would be interested to see who is trying to be swung. If you try to get people who voted for trump twice. Other people who voted for trump twice, this will not work. Im glad they found these people. But i would say these people are a drop in the bucket compared to trumps overall base and i think that the people who are former republicans are now nontrump republicans need to be reminded of the history of the party. And why he doesnt represent that. But i think we need to row in the same direction and im glad they are doing it because it is better than them not going it. The group is focusing on attacking trump, but they are not boosting joe biden. Is that because they cant promote his record . They are republicans. They dont like his record. They certainly could promote his record. I think these are more powerful because they are in, the subjects own work. The biggest thing about a negative ad is whether you believed it or not. And we know what a negative ad looks like in a political campaign. Now it is generally grainy pictures, an ominous voice. Slow motion. Stuff that makes people turn the television off. These are your neighbors. People you can go to church with. So look, you can attack this a couple of different ways. You can peel voters off of voting for donald trump. Build up the president s record. But i think this is an effective way of going at trump using those words of his own voters. A week ago, there are some saying joe biden was too weak, too senile to be president. Now they say he is shouting like a madman out there. Are there really any voters to persuade or have people made their minds up and this election is all about Voter Turnout . Well look. Whats that old saying . It comes down to turnout. Come on, people have to show up to vote. I think there are persuadeable people. The idea that there are people who voted for joe biden in 2020 and Gretchen Whitmer in 2022, it is hard to convince them to go back to donald trump. Maybe it is hard to get them back to biden. But an otherwise trump voter that stays home is one vote in the right direction and someone who can come across the line for President Biden who i thought was brilliant leading off this wings like ukraine and the idea of personal liberty during the State Of The Union was very important. They are absolutely persuadeable voters. You some other guys, robert kennedy. The no labels. But donald trump will not be better than the next seven or so months. He will be worse. Think about what he did over the weekend. Making fun of bidens stutter. Think about any parent, stephanie, who has a kid dealing with something that is not their fault. How does that appeal to them . Not very well i dont think. How about the fact that joe biden has overcome a debilitating stutter and nailed what was it, 60 odd minute state of the Union Address . It is a win. Robert, what do you think about this . Are there undecided . Because it is extraordinary when you think about the criticisms against biden a week ago and how they changed so dramatically. Yeah. I definitely think there are persuadeable voters. They are a small sliver of people. They will be targeted at six states. We will spend this group will spend 50 million, other groups spend hundreds of millions of dollars. At a very, very tiny number of people in those six places by u absolutely think in the suburbs, there are people. And we see this in the polling. That have fond memories of trumps economic record. Or, how the economy was then. But are concerned about what the future looks like and the activities of donald trump as he was leaving office. Those are absolutely people that are having conversations with their friends. Having conversations with others. Watching ads. Having to make a decision. I think putting people in front of those voters that look like their neighbors, look like their friends. Help reinforce the choice that is coming up. Gentlemen, thank you very much for joining us. When we return, talk about economics. We got a sign we might be waiting a little bit longer. We will dig in when The 11th Hour continues. I have a special guest for you. Now it is time to turn to the economy. Consumer prices are still climbing. 3. 2 higher than they were a year ago. Many expected Price Increases to be slower by now. But they are not. And the bottom line, inflation is still a problem. For more, lets bring in New York Times gina, she reports on the Federal Reserve and the economy. Justin joins us, professor of economics and Public Policy at the university of michigan. If he is in the building you know he is on the show. Ali velshi. My partner on all things economics and life. He is also the host of Velshi Saturday and sunday here on msnbc at 10 00 a. M. People were hoping and praying the fed would cut rates soon, but with an Inflation Report like this, what do you think . Most investors and economists will tell us we are looking at june as the earliest possibility for a rate cut. The fed meets in march, but inflation is kind of flat lining. It is still much more moderate than it was at its peak in 2022. But it is not down to a level to give the fed the comfort it needs to make that move. So most economists think not this month, probably not at the next meeting in may. President biden has a ton to brag about when it comes to the economy. And the economic recovery. However, if your groceries are still really expensive, if your rent is super expensive, is that all people care about . There are two things to look at. Your groceries will always be expensive. You ham a couple of years where they were much more expensive. In the real world, 3. 2 inflation would actually be okay. Most of the rest of the world has accepted 3 is right. But the fed couldnt say we are good with 3. They would like it to be 2. Dont know if we will get there, but thats the point. The more important thing is rent. If you are a homeowner and locked in at 3 , your housing is at a discount. You are paying, you are sitting pretty. Prices are going up everywhere. So is the value of your house. And you have no problem with that. Renters are really getting it. People who need to buy a house now locking in at 7 for a 3 year mortgage are getting it now. And rent is going up. And like everything in the economy, the problem is not spread equally. The rich, what is happening is people who are impoverished are really saying what is your solution for me in the long term . And that is what has been cleared. People like to make the argument that it is a lot more expensive than other places around the world. Is that a winning argument . Are people really thinking it is worse in spain when they have a high bill at the Grocery Store . The truth is, is the truth in this, lets begin the stories we tell. Lets cut to the truth. The truth is our Spending Power is a race between whether wages are growing and growing fast enough to keep up or get ahead of price growth. The truth is our wages are now growing. It is higher than it was before the pandemic. The problem with that is a story to tell. Let me tell you my own story. The process went up a lot of the Grocery Store and it is painful every time i go there. My wage is kept up but i think it is because i did such a good job as an economist. If you ask my boss, they would say you are not a very good economist, justin. We were just giving you this as a cost of livering adjustment. If i was open to that story, i would understand my wages went up to compensate and im doing round about okay. But thats not the story i tell myself. And that is what makes inflation hurt so much. That is really a good explanation. Im now wondering whether i got an increase for being good or cost of living. Gina, you reported on how insurance is a big contributor to these Price Increases. Explain. Yeah, we are particularly seeing this with Motor Vehicle insurance. So Car Insurance premiums have gone up a lot. Partially because we saw the Big Pop In New and used car prices a couple of years ago and the car parts that come alongside the cars have really jumped in price. So when you have something happen to your car, it is costing a lot more to repair it so we are seeing Motor Vehicle insurance really climb rapidly. That is contributing to inflation. At the same time, that Health Insurance and you know up until this month, structure insurance have also been contributing to inflation. Not something the fed can do a lot about. But it is something that is pushing with these numbers. President s do not control the fed. And donald trump wanted to. What levers do, help me. What can the president do . He cant do much to convince jarome powell. Can you see why i need a coanchor . I need you to ask and answer. I think there is not much you can do. The fed wants to be careful they dont do something prematurely and the thing people have to remember, we know how recessions work. When you get into a recession, it is bad. But the fed can cut Interest Rates and recover. Inflation is much more complicated. Japan got stuck in it for a very, very long time. And it wrecked them. When you and i were young, japan was the country we looked to as the future of the world. Now it is sort of a middling economy. We werent young at the same time. Jp morgan ceo warned that a recession is not off the table. What is your take on that . You keep reporting on it year after year, week after week, time after time. And he keeps saying it. At some point, someone will say jamie, you werent right last year or this here. Justin for president. What is your take . Exactly right. You can keep talking about recessions. I dont know whether there is one on the horizonment we have 5 unemployment. Peoples wages go up. They continue to spend. Inflation has come down. Home prices going up. Gas prices under control. How does this make a recession . Gina, had 15 more questions for you. But you know ali. Talk, talk, talk. Now we are out of time. I have a lot of show. Come join us. Great to see you all. When we come back, congress is debating legislation to ban tiktok. And the president said he would sign it. Were going to break down what a ban could look like. How it would be implemented and how about all the other social Media Companies . Are we looking at them . When The 11th Hour continues. T when The 11th Hour continues. Ah, these bills are crazy. She has no idea shes sitting on a goldmine. Well she doesnt know that if she owns a Life Insurance policy of 100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. Even a term policy. Even a term policy . 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That is how the energy and the Commerce Committee voted to take this tiktok bill to the floor. The house is voting on it. It looks very likely to pass. And the senate has the chance to fix up the bill a little bit. There are some weaknesses in this bill. And you know, while there is bipartisan agreement that something has to be done, i think there is some discussion the senate of exactly the structure of how do you want to deal. Not just with tiktok, but other companies from the peoples republic of china going forward. Well then, lets talk about this. Do you think it is a good idea and how would it be implemented . What would it look like . Assuming you think it is a good idea . Yeah. We have to do something here. Experts in the security industry, my friends and the government, people who work in these kinds of investigations and National Security world all have i think legit Mall Concerns about tiktok. Both for the access to data that they get on the tens of millions of users. But also the pocket they might tweak their algorithm to subtly change the conversation in the United States. The question is how do you do it . And, the issues with this bill really come down to the fact it targets speech that specifically is about platforms that carry speech. It is very specific. Im not a law professor. But when you talk to my colleagues, she has a lot of really legitimate concerns this bill will be challenged for years and years. The other interesting thing about this structure of the bill, it is not enforced directly against tiktok, but apple and google and their app store so it creates an economic incentive for google and apple to actually be the ones who bear the cost of years of litigation in this bill. So i think, you know, the house will probably pass it. My suggestion to the Senate Personally is i would look at the Privacy Issues over the speech issues. I think that is a much firmer basis upon which you can regulate not just tiktok, but every social Media Company by passing a fair federal privacy law that sets the Rules Of The Road for how a company should behave and you can do what they are trying to do here. This data is really important. It cannot be accessed by companies controlled by our adversaries including china and russia. That is sort of the point i want to get to. I get it. Tiktok is owned by china. But many of the things that they are guilty of, or the risks they pose, are also present on other Social Media Apps and we have done absolutely nothing for years to those. I mean, i do this there are specific risks from the peoples republic of china. And the truth is the United States and china are embroiled in a cyber hot war now. Every single day, chinese hackers are attacking American Companies. China continues to use Offensive Cyber for both intelligence purposes and economic purposes. The big story that has been undercover in the United States is that the Cyber Security continues to uncover the chinese Levering Back Doors and really critical companies that would support a u. S. Military response. Guam, pearl harbor, san diego. That is a real shift. They are utilizing cyber to potentially build the possibility of the conflict. So i think there is a special risk here. That said, i think the most legally defensible mechanism is to create a law that applies to all companies fairly. And again, you can single out china and russia and other nations for special treatment, but you dont just catch tiktok. You make sure American Companies dont utilize data processers. Dont store their data in a place where the Chinese Government can get to it and the companies that ship apps that are collecting user data. The thing that drives me nuts we only talk about tiktok. But theres a whole bunch of Video Game Withs Sketchy data policies. Chinese ad tech systems. Chinese sd ks. People dont now they are Shipping Data to china. That is what we need to look at. It has taken all this time to move on tiktok. Imagine congress trying to pass the bill for every Chinese Company that popping up the next decade. We need to visit this as a privacy bill. It is great the house will move tomorrow. And that starlets the conversation and the momentum toward a more comprehensive set of protections for americans privacy. Every night our goal on the show is to make our audience better and smarter and every time you are here, you do just that. Thank you for joining us. And for you at home, thank you for watching. I wish you a very, very good night. From all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. Ill see you at the end of tomorrow. The fuel you need to take flight. Cirkul is the energy that gets you to the next level. Cirkul is what you hope for when life tosses lemons your way. Cirkul, available at walmart and drinkcirkul. Com. 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