Transcripts For MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240907

Childcare is childcare. There is something. You have to have it. The big Battleground Fight with Pennsylvania Governor josh shapiro. The big news from the criminal arraignment of a republican nominee. What we can expect is even more material that is not public could come to The Public Eye in the weeks before election day. New details on the Russian Campaign to pay maga pundits to spread put in propaganda. This is psychotic. Ukraine is the enemy of this country. Ukraine is our enemy. While the gifts to supreme Court Justice Clarence thomas arent that dissimilar . Id like to keep that friendship. [ laughter ] when all in starts right now. Good evening from new york. Im chris hayes. We breaking news. Exclusive roll in scoop. Its this. Donald trump is 78 years old. Did you know that . If elected, he will be the oldest person to ever be sworn in as President Of The United States. A man who is Suffering Enmental decline. In contrast to the breathless coverage of joe bidens age and fitness, which again, prior to his dropping out of the president ial race, we are not seeing nearly as much discussion about trumps diminished mental acuity. When was last time you read an article wondering if trump is mentally fit to be President Of The United States . Not leading the coverage of the case as it was with biden two months ago. It seems like everyone is grading trumpet occur. His always been rambling and incoherent, true, so he gets a t pass. Spent any time listening these days and for our sins, we do ys here at all. He does not sound like a person who should be anywhere near the nuclear codes. The transgender thing is incredible. Think of it. Your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation. The school decides whats going to happen with your child. You know, many of these childs 15 years later say what the hell happen . Who did this to me. The real radicals are the democrats where you can have an abortion in the ninth month and in six states are allowed to kill the baby after the baby is born. The execution of the baby. Bo thats not abortion. Thats the execution of a baby. You can actually execute the baby after birth. The wind that kills over birds, if you want to bsanford cemetery, go under a windmill. They kila hell birds. These are all obvious and transparent lies and i dont think any serious person believes any of that. You drop your kid off at school at 8 30 and pick him up at 2 30 and theyve had gender affirming surgery in the school that day . In the Nurses Office . No one is executing babies in six states are nemany states. Is that legal and democratic states, the doctor kills the child, a newborn . There are piles of dead mill birds under the windmills. The guy just says stuff. What i would say about that is more, i cant tell if he believes it or not himself. Is there a line anymore between Deception And Delusion . If you actually ask him to articulate a basic policy proposal, on childcare, for instance. He cannot do it. If you win check in november, can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make childcare affordable and if so, what specific piece of legislation will you advance . I would do that. We were sitting down. I was somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio and my daughter was so impactful on that issue. Its a very important issue. I think when you talk about the numbers im talking about, because, the Childcare Is childcare. There, its something you have to have. In this country you have to have it. When you talk about those numbers when you compare numbers im talking about by taxing for nations at levels they are not used to, but theyll get used to it quickly. Its not going to stop them ed from Doing Business with us, but they will have a substantial tax when they some product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers were talking about including childcare. That it will take care i look forward to having no deficits within a short period of time. Coupled with the reductions i told you about on Waste And Fraud and all the other things that are going on in the country. Because, i have to say with childcare, want to stay with childcare, but those hours are small relative to the economic numbers that im talking about g including growth. But growth also headed up by what the plan is that i just told you about. We will take in trillions of dollars and, as much as Childcare Is talked about as being expensive, its relatively speaking, very expensive compared to the numbers we will be taking in. We will make be vthis into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people. Then we will worry about the rest of the world. Lets help other people, but we will take care of our country first. Its about america first. Its about Make America great again. We have to ado it because righ now we are a failing nation. [ laughter ] the applaud at the end. After he is like, falling all over and he does a Simone Biles discount. Maga, did you get all of that . The question was, what specific piece of legislation will you advance to keep childcare costs down . Okay . Again, heres the contrast. The Vice President of the united states, democratic nominee and here she is with her plan to help offset childcare. Under my plan, more than 100 Millions americans will get a Tax Cut. We will do this by restoring two Tax Cuts designed to help middle class and working americans. The earned income tax credit. [ applause ] and, the child tax credit. [ cheers and applause ] through which millions of americans, their hard earned income. As president , i will not only restore that Tax Cut but expanded. We will provide 6000 in Tax Relief to families during the first year of a childs life. There you have it. A little bit of a contrast. In trumps defense, he was not on teleprompter. I dont know, man, thats the quality of the brains right now that we got over there. Vice president Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are in Pennsylvania Today which is a must win state for either ticket. Anything is possible. All the things nyare there. We are all undefeated at this a point in time with the opportunity to build something better for ourselves. S [ cheers and applause ] i should say we should not discount trumps different approach of persuasion in pennsylvania. N you can take the chance. You have no choice. Youve got to vote for youve got to vote for me. Even if you dont like me. We have to win in november were not going to have pennsylvania, they will change the name. They are going to change the name of pennsylvania. Joining me as the governor pennsylvania, josh shapiro. Estate whose name i dont think its going anywhere unless im mistaken. We are not changing it. You are going to keep it . Yeah. There is zero chance. Man, oh man, do we have a stark contrast. You later to perfectly and im looking forward to the sthe conversation. I have looked at some of the polling in your state. You are a popular governor enter democratic governor in a state that they politically divided state. The first question for you. Someone says i like governor so josh shapiro. Maybe im goa republican centri what does the Biden Harris Administration I Chalk it up to a state level apparatus. Word to say to that voter . I would say to the good people of pennsylvania, we have cut taxes four times in the commonwealth and we made historic investments in education and public safety and economic development. Things are going well. We have work to do but things are going well. I understand the politics is a Team Game Youve got to have Te Partners in this. I am the only hagovernor in the country with a divided legislature. House led by democrats a one led by republicans. We managed to get nethat done. Its a Team Sport when it comes to having an administration who can work with us. One of the reasons why we are excelling when it comes to Energy Production is a strong relationship we have with the Biden Harris Administration. One of the reasons why we are it fixed more roads and bridges than ever before is because of our partnership with the Biden Harris Administration. We have kids able to turn the Ds Tap on and not drink water with lead in it because the Biden Harris Administration and their commitment to us. We have folks in rural communities in pennsylvania who were getting highspeed internet turned on for the first time because of our partnership with the Biden Harris Administration. I would say the good people of pennsylvania, we have made a lot of strides. I couldnt be more proud to be your governor and enjoy support from democrats, republicans, and independents. At a great partnership with Ther Biden Harris Admin that allowed me to do so much of this work. I want that to continue. I want pennsylvania to continue to get its fair share from the federal government and have a president i can call and lean on when times are tough. Likely did win95 collapse, we had a president who could be there for us. I know Kamala Harris can be that president for the entire nation and certainly for the good people of pennsylvania. Theres a lot of focus on your steak, i think, because the bigger the electoral college. Bi theres a lot of reason to th think it will be a must win stay. Theres Polling Today that shows Kamala Harris up by a point. Its clear it is close there and theres a lot of nerves about pennsylvania. I will ask a question you Cant Answer but people want to hear what you say witches, whats going on there . How is it looking . Is a close . Do you have a cents . Who is going to win . Yeah, it seems maybe the one thing Kamala Harris and Donald Trump agree on Is Pennsylvania is the tipping point state. The deciding stay. Here is what i will say. It looks to be a dead even race for president. By the way, it looks to be an even race for the u. S. Senate. I need Bob Casey in the u. S. Senate. He is an outstanding u. S. Senator and go to Bob Casey. Com and chip in whatever you can afford. When it comes to the president ial race, understand that in pennsylvania, looking at a football field, you can maybe get 49 yards of your side of The Field, but grabbing that extra two guards to get to the other side of The Field is really tough. This is a tough state to th compete in and win it. The good news is with Kamala H Harris and Tim Walz are doing is he showing up in communities that are often times ignored or left behind. Right before they went to the dnc in chicago, they werent in philly or pittsburgh and i love philly and pittsburgh, but they went to rural Beaver County Near Ohio and west virginia. Yesterday and today, Tim Walz was in rural Lancaster County and erie and rural fayette county. Are showing up at the communities that need to hear from them and understand what they are all about and kick the tires and understand more. As pennsylvanians get more familiar with the Vice President and the governor, theyre going to see them as the people who can help but not just our commonwealth but the entire country forward. Spoke at the democratic national convention. He talked about whats been going on in pennsylvania and also being proud of your Faith C is a jewishamerican, one of the most prominent Jewish American in the democratic party which features Chuck Schumer and others. I want to get your reaction to something that Donald Trump says a lot about Jewish American switches they are crazy, they need to get their head examined. They arbitrating who they are if they vote for democrats saying if you had democrats in your jewish you have to have your head examined. He warns israel will no longer exist of Vice President Kamala Harris becomes president. He used palestinian as a maslur against Chuck Schumer to say hes almost like a palestinian. Im curious how that strikes your ears . Look, i think its more of the same from Donald Trump. I have been the recipient of many attacks from Donald Trump including antisemitic attacks from Donald Trump as have the people in pennsylvania and The American people. Donald trump is someone who peddles bigotry and hatred. He constantly tries to create others in our society, separate people based on what they look like, where they come from, what they love, they prayed to. Its something that is deeply offensive to many people. Not just as a governor but as a father four. I tried to raise our kids to love thy Neighbor Care about their fellow man and woman. We should have a leader of the free world who at least meets those standards that most parents try to hold their children to. When you look at what Donald Trump has specifically said to american jewish people, this notion of dual loyalty where american jewish people can only care about israel, thats deeply offensive to me and many others. I am a proud american. I care about Health Care and ca our kids education. I care about national security. I care about a host of issues as american and 37 due and going with this notion of dual loyalty that jews only have to care about israel and have the same views on israel is deeply offensive and deeply troublesome. Donald trump fails that test that parents have for their kids. He failed the test as commander inchief. We dont want to hand him the keys back to the White House where he can continue to try to divide us, often people come and spew more Hatred And Bigotry in our society. You got a state where early voting starts soon, september 16, if im arnot mistaken. Four years ago, you and i spoke a number of times in that period in the runup to the election and serving as Attorney General for the state of pennsylvania and one of the things you had to do was go in court and preserve the kind of integrity of the States Election System under the fuselage of lawsuits from the Trump Campaign and others. Are you confident about the Election Infrastructure in your state . Theser County Level canvassing boards . Mischief the folks in the Trump Campaign might get up to to get people not do what he is their legal duty to count, certify votes . In 2020 in pennsylvania, we had a free and fair, safe and secure election. I am confident that we will again in 2024, have a free and fair safe and secure election. Our elections are being led by my Appointee And Secretary of the commonwealth, secretary of state and thats l schmidt. I would note that he is a republican because i believe the administration of elections in this country should not be partisan exercise. We can have partisan choices for candidates but the running of elections is something that d needs to be nonpartisan and out is leading that way as our clerks. Republican and democrat alike working hard to make sure that we have integrity yet again in the process. Unfortunately, we are already to see the lawsuits and threats of lawsuits come from Donald Trump and his allies. The good news is our courts in pennsylvania in recent days have consistently in their rulings cited on enfranchisement not disenfranchisement that Donald Trump pushed for in 2020 and is again threatening this time. We will have a free and fair safe and secure election. I have confidence in the people overseeing it at the state and County Level, and we will do everything we can to make sure whether you choose to vote from home, by mail, or in person, your vote will be counted and counted quickly. Of course, the will of the people will be respected. We are here in the beginning of the Football Season and im curious how you are feeling about the two teams in your state as we head into the season . Im an optimistic. The birds opened in brazil on friday night. They are all complaining e about, understandably spin i think its cool. It is awesome that they get to open Ththe Season down in brazi i want the world to know about the eagles. They look really really good this year and i think the roster looks good. Theyve done a good job building the team but now you have to play those 17 games. On the other side, the steelers made some good offseason moves. They got to to great quarterbacks, Russell Wilson will get the start early in the season. I think they added pieces. I think they will surprise some folks. I think they will make the in playoffs. They were closed last year. You will have a lot of F Support for Pennsylvania Sports from the nominees of both parties in your state. Governor josh shapiro, pennsylvania, thank you very much. Lv great to be with you. I want to say weve got news. We are following a new development in the shooting at the georgia High School that the four did and nine more injured. Moments ago, Law Enforcement from the state of georgia announcing that colin gray, the father of the 14 Yield Suspect in the shooting is also now been arrested. In coordination with the District Attorney brad smith, the gpi arrested colin gray. Age 54. In connection to the shooting at apalachee High School. He is cold Grays Father who was arrested yesterday and charged with the following. Four counts of involuntary manslaughter. Two counts of seconddegree murder. Eight counts of cruelty to children. Mr. Gray these charges stem from mr. Gray knowingly allowing his Son Colt to possess a weapon. We know the suspect had been on the writer of Law Enforcement prior to the attack. They previously interviewed him last year although there was insufficient evidence to charge him the crime. Him the crime. Start 78yearold republican candidate was arraigned today again a four on charges of trying to steal the 2020 election although he did not show up in person to plead not guilty. The charges laid out in the Superseding Indictment in response to the Supreme Court 673 immunity rule. In the courtroom this morning, Judge Chutkan held a hearing on went to reschedule proceedings for this case. A few hours later chagrin a Special Counsels request to Shares Evidence of how this vendetta meets the Supreme Courts ruling on immunity on september. Thats weeks before the election which is not what trumps lawyers want to. They are good Special Counsel Time Line would be incredibly unfair that they are able to put in the public record at the sensitive time in the nations history. Judge chutkan was having none of it. I understand theres an election impending and i said before and again, the time of the election is not relevant here. This court is not concerned. Legal correspondent Lisa Rubin was in the courtroom and she joins me. I feel a colorful scene in the courtroom. Lets start with what was the purpose of the Proceeding Today . To decide on the schedule for how you resolve this Immunity Issue which, as John Lauro, one of trumps lawyers said it was crystal clear. Judge chutkan chuckled, that doesnt show up in the transcript because the decision is so messy with respect to what it means for her to decide. That was the main purpose of the hearing and also to Arraign Former President Trump on this Superseding Indictment which doesnt add new charges or allegations or defendants but when nosedown what was the Indictment And Attempt to comply with the Supreme Court ruling. What are the next steps in this proceeding . After todays Hearing Chanter the Scheduling Order which he will allow the government to put in a brief that says, here is how we have complied with the Immunity Ruling and there were allegations are within what the court says is allowable. We will prove that to you by attaching a bunch of evidence. Today at the hearing, one of the lawyers for the Special Counsel basically said, heres what we will attach. Grand jury transcripts, we will attach iewed transcripts, informal interviews. We will attach fbi 302 which is a memo created when prosecutors in the Fbi Interview Somebody who is a witness to an alleged crime, we will see all of that if Judge Chutkan decides the public should see it. That will all be in the evidentiary filing by the Special Counsels office that says, all this stuff the Supreme Court wrote this and constructed all of this, of where immunity presents, where its feasible, where its lightly assumed were evidence can or cannot get employee. Complicated Calvin Ball created by John Roberts. We will place it Calvin Ball and file a briefing the said here is why this passes the Test Set by the court . Correct. Turning the process on its head, usually if the defendant wants to dismiss an indictment, they go first. They bring a brief and say this Cant Stand for the following reasons but here Judge Chutkan agreed with Special Counsel that given their desire to only have one round of appeals up until the Supreme Court, before a trial, that it makes sense for them to lay out the evidence and go first, give former President Trumps Lawyers Opportunity to respond perhaps with their own proffered evidence as to why he should be exonerated and why the Immunity Ruling Cant Stand. They will get the last say in late October Right before the election. Will that filing that attaches all the evidence, will that be made public and we dont know there . We dont know that. Even Special Counsel said they dont know that. She said how much information are youre going to want to put under seal . They were clear and honest. We dont quite know you. They clarified, its not up to the lawyers. There was a point where John Lauro said, if there going to put forward this information under seal, we are going to do the same. The lawyer for Special Counsels office said thats not the way this works. As a protective order that protects information and we feel we need to file something, we come to you and you make that ultimate decision. There is on trumps lawyers. These cheeky exchanges, John Lauro saying life is almost meaningless without seeing you for a year. Judge chutkan said to enjoy it while it lasts. There was a point where they wanted to challenge the constitutionality of Jack Smiths Office as they have successfully and Judge Aileen cannons case. Thats pending appeal. They said they were instructed by a supreme Court Justice to do so . Directed they said. Judge chutkan was asking why do you think you can bring that motion here . Here, unlike florida, there is binding precedent from the applicable court of appeals the Set Appointment Special Counsel is permissible and constitutional, and their response was, we have been Directed By justice thomas, and she said wait a second. Thats a concurrence in the immunity decision. I should point out that justice thomas is the only justice who signed that. And theres nine on the court. She is clear that was not a direction as she read a. Theres a small reference to Justice Thomass to provide guidance to lower courts, plural, who are considering the issue at the time he wrote that only Judge Cannon had that motion before her. Mightve been signaling that she would like to see them bring a motion but is far from a direction and for them to construe it was a major tactical error in front of Judge Chutkan. When i was reading that, i was reading the live coverage, Directed By justice thomas . Thats a Wild Thing to say about a single just as concurrence where the most cynical reading of that concurrence was justice thomas being like, hey, judicial thinkers in the court, lets help a brother route. To say it that way was pretty audacious. In a year full of audacity, that was the capstone of audacious and is. To say that because, as we know, theyre almost speaking in code. The justices on one side, the judges in some cases like Judge Cannon, now the lawyers basically saying we are having this conversation among ourselves the way to adjudicate this and we are winking and nodding through our papers. Thats a crazy thing to acknowledge in public. I was thinking as i was watching Judge Chutkan and thinking which he now has to do, at a technical level. Shes got a trial to run. She has John Roberts opinion which, again, this new creation after 220 plus years of the republic. Justice stevens, trying to resolve disputes. Trying to do it with humility. She has got to do the actual work and she know she made a reference. At one point when John Lauro was arguing how he construes the courts opinion, he said i man a ritual is. She said you might be an originalist, Trial Judge and thats not how we understand the instructions that the Supreme Court is given to me about what my task is ahead. Quickly, theres not going to be some grand moment where we seal the evidence although there might be in the breathing. There might be in the briefing and the could be and evidentiary hearing. She said i will get the briefing then i will decide whether any further proceedings are necessary for me to resolve this but at this moment were talking about the papers. That was great. Tuesday, will join Rachel Maddow for special Coverage And Analysis of the first president ial debate. Probably the only one between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump hosted by abc news. I covered big it is 7 00 p. M. Eastern. Exactly what the kremlin was paying for when they boosted Maga Influencers in america, next. America, next. That veterinarians have trusted for over 15 Million dogs. And it starts working in just 4 hours do not use in dogs with serious infections. May cause worsening of existing parasitic skin infestations. Or preexisting cancers. And serious infections. New neoplasias have been observed. Do not use in dogs less than 12 months old. Ask your vet for apoquel. Now available in a tasty chewable. Some of the most famous most right wing influencers are paid by russia according to a department of Justice Indictment handed down. We touched on the broad strokes of it yesterday, but its worth a deeper look. Behind the Curtain Peak of how the Fever Swamps of the media work today. The indictment charged two employees of the kremlin funded Media Outlet alleging the carried out a covert project by using 10 Million from russia to fund a rightwing Media Company that could influence american politics with viral Video Content or Video Content. Prosecutors did not name the Media Company or its commentators to review by Nbc News found its Description Match the website of tenet Media Word for word. We feel pretty confident. The Indictment Mentions six unnamed commentators as nbc reports, Tenet Media partnered with six commentators, Tim Pool, taylor hanson, matt christiansen, Dave Rubin and benny johnson. Its possible you have heard of some. Benny johnson was fired for plagiarism. He helped election denying senator to set up his Mike Lee Twitter account full of misinformation. Dave rubin who hosted the Rubin Report is 2. 5, millions of subscribers. Theres an audience for them. The Indictment Mentions to us commentators respectably 2. 4, 1. 3 million youtube subscribers. It adds Commentators Contract provided for weekly video the video once a week in exchange for a monthly fee of 400,000 plus 100,000 Signing Bonus and additional performance bonus. The Commentator Contract provided for weekly videos in exchange for a fee of 100,000 per video. These guys are not nba basketball players but making videos. According to the prosecutors, the money for that very lucrative arrangement for the content came from russia by way of Shell Companies in hungary and turkey in dubai, czech republic. This is a kind of content the kremlin was hoping to boost. The american taxpayers given millions of dollars to ukraine and what is the largest Money Laundering Scam in human history. The only Way Ukraine gets solved is that they will have to concede some land. This is you psychotic. Ukraine is the enemy of this country. Ukraine is our enemy funded by democrats. I stress one of the greatest enemies of our nation right now is ukraine. They are expanding this war. People who run ukraine are driving around of bentleys and some of the most expensive cars. Their kids are living lavishly around europe. There plenty of russian speakers who want to be part of mother russia. I dont see any way around it. You cannot beat the militarily. Ukraine is the greatest threat to the world and this nation. We should pull out all Military Support and we should apologize to russia. Apologize to russia. Was our Youtube Truth tellers literally working for the kremlin according to the indictment. It wasnt just prorussia. To be fair, part of a broader Information War being waged by moscow. Yesterday the department just as released documents of russian efforts to divide, discourse in which this is that members of one specific unnamed political party, quote, afraid of losing The American way of life. The american dream. These sentiments should be exploited. According to the document, examples of topics russia wanted to emphasize included risk of Job Loss for white americans. Threat of crime coming from people of color, immigrants, my personal favorite category, privileges for people of color, privilege as perverts and disabled. Thats the Fox News Programming guide and youtube. Everything that animates the rightwing media scape. So for those influence who have commented said they were victims, duped. They didnt change her content. They just cashed the large checks. Thats how influence campaigns work. Find a person that agrees with you and you bless them and makes their lives lucrative and comfortable and the person is like im not doing anything different. Im getting 400,000 bucks in a month to make rightwing content. Thats honest work, right . An Nbc Reporter for Nbc News focusing on the Internet And Extremism and shes been covering this story closely and she joins me now. The details are pretty striking. Indeed. I dont know, i havent felt this way since brian was indicted. Things we Saw Happening in plain sight that we suspected for a long time that russia loves these people and loves these Talking Points. We had no idea it was, they were being paid for it until now allegedly. There is this cart and worst thing which is one of the things that happened in real time, the runup to the russian invasion of ukraine in the bidens warning that they would do it. Rightwing commentators saying thats ridiculous, and then they did it. The american public said this is bad and terrible. There was the right that took the side of the russians from the jump even before what was alleged in the indictment and they start getting paid. Paper called marjorie taylor greene, Moscow Marjorie or something. Theres always been this group that has aligned itself with those ideas. The ideas that russia was hoping to push as noted in the other indictment was all the things you can see on fox news. Its hard to say which came first. What we can say is a foreign adversarial government is very excited about what this Conservative Movement has to say so much so that its willing to waste money that it knows it wont profit, this Media Company wont be profitable but pay them because its those Talking Points are so valuable. We know for a fact that this kind of Russia Propaganda Money flooded europe in the last decade or so. Its everywhere. You interviewed someone in the german, often you see people justified taking the money when theyre getting money from russia. Not even Shell Companies. These are my beliefs and im not being told what to say. Russia is good at recruiting talent. Who worldview aligns with russian lets support those. I dont know if you remember Larry King had a show on and he said i was going to say this anyway. Im not changing anyway. What are you aiding an adversarial government . To spread their propaganda and how do you feel about that . According to these people, far right, Dave Rubin and Tim Pool and the rest claim to be victims. So far, dont seem to have much to say how they feel big part of that campaign. I havent heard them say if there returning that illgotten cash they may have gotten. Lots of money. Thats the other thing. Im going to pay you for one video, 100,000 a video. No questions asked. I think as a journalist, ive got some questions. I think i would say. There is that. Thats the biggest red flag. People they knew. Founders of the company said do you want to be part of this Media Campaign and the second thing according to the indictment, we have a benevolent benefactor. In paris even though he was using moscow but one person allegedly said, need more information. They gave Dave Rubin we think a document with a resume that is made Up Benefactor. I tried to google this made Up Benefactor and he exists nowhere. Shows No One seemed to have gone past that step. Gocart. Out cash that check. Whats somewhat comical is there is a video in which there point is, we are not bought. We are independent voices. I think i passed off everybody. Thats what happens when you are a freethinker. We selfcentered. Its harder to do when regrouped together. Antiestablishment, when i hear it, thank cool. Independent media, holding people accountable. The challenge is to not be passive participants and let the country slip away. Dissident, independent. The Department Of Justice said we are getting enormous checks from my russian front to influence americans. You cannot trust your institutions. You can address the media. You Cant Trust big insert whatever. You can trust us because we are saying the things you will find nowhere else and the reason why is because for the most part, they are not true. Its propaganda. You can only trust edvard whose resume i have right here. Thank you very much. The similarities between the scheme laid up at the Justice Department and the lavish gifts bestowed on supreme Court Justice. I will explain that connection. Ukraine is the greatest threat the nation and the world. We should rescind all funding and financing, pull up Military Support and we should apologize to russia. In the wake of this embarrassing indictment the show several online rightwing thinkers, figure like that commentator you just heard Tim Pool that they were allegedly unwitting agents of the russian government attempting to sabotage the Election And Sowing discord. They have become defensive. A couple called it a leaked indictment which is funny even though its public record. The point that many have been making and they are saying i didnt know where the money was from. I was paid to say what i wouldve said anyway. Honestly, i believe theyre telling the truth on that. The rhetoric in the File Culture Bigotry is the stuff they were saying before the russians showed up to pay them for it. Its always the way it works. Most effective tactic to manipulate Public Opinion through foreign Influence Or Change laws on behalf of the interest is not to find someone as opposed to what you want and give them cash and have them renounce publicly until the what to say. Its to go out and find people that are already aligned with those interests and then subsidize the hell out of those folks by throwing money at them and raising the profiles so they can do what they were already doing. Ideally, they do it for a long time and are comfortable doing it. Comfortable in this case to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars per video which ive got to say is pretty cushy in the world of digital media. Its that whole scheme sounds kind of familiar thats because its basically the same arrangement set up for supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas Pipe benefactors like Harlan Crow. According to all the reporting we have, thomas has been giving gifts both disclosed and undisclosed to the tune of 4 Million over the past 20 years. Those that we know about thanks to real dogged reporting by outlets like propublica. You can see on this chart how much he has been given. Can you see thomas on the chart . He is on the left. The huge Red Bar compared to the other justices. Every time thomas gets caught, a Yacht Tripper Rv loan forgiven or Tuition Payment for family, his defenders say the right wing influencers and their defenders say Clarence Thomas didnt change his mind. Hes ruling the way he wouldve anyway. Like those influencers, thats pretty much true. Clarence thomas is a right wing dude, deeply conservative and i think in most cases in most issues, not all, probably rule in ways favorable to Harlan Crow and his billionaire ilk. Thats not the point. You do not have to change his views. You need to incentivize him to stay on the court. Offer him gifts to continue doing what he is doing already. The problem with this is not only does he get a ridiculous amount of gifts, has extended it every direction that includes his wife Ginny Thomas who is this rightwing activist, and all sorts of causes including january 6. In the face of efforts by democrats to crack down on this kind of insane, ethical violation, to reform the court and find it by the basic set of ethics that say members of congress or federal employee has to abide by in the wake of those efforts, propublica, new revelations about a group working to help Justice Thomas Fight efforts. The obtained audio of the president of a religious Liberty Group leading an email from Ginny Thomas profusely thanking them for fighting for Clarence Thomas right to keep accepting amazing gifts without ethics rules. Let me say one thing that is an encouragement, thing, encouragement because the people on this call are top supporters. I got an Email Today from Ginny Thomas, Justice Thomass wife. I want to read that. She said great to meet through the meetings today. I cannot adequately express enough appreciation for you guys pulling into reacting to the but never on the Supreme Court. This is in all caps, you guys have filled the sales of many judges. Can i just tell you, and this is all caps, thank you so so much. Its neat that those of you on the call are part of protecting the future of our court and they appreciate it. He said our court. They appreciate it meaning the justices. Not just Ginny Thomas who is the spokesperson for her husband. These Interest Groups need justice thomas to say where he is and lavishing him with gifts so hell remain on the court. Its not that different from the russians paying right wing influencers huge sums of money to do what they are doing. Clarence thomas is just the Tim Pool of the Supreme Court. Urt. Very well, you do a great job, and were going to be connecting the Clarence Thomas dots in a different direction in a few months, butin that