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Woke it took place on december the 29th when obama issued his sanctions ruling and he is expulsion of the diplomats. And from that moment done from december the 29th through to january the 5th there were no unmarked requests so the story that we had been told which is that oh well you know we were spying on just we are because hes a Russian Ambassador and hes. There and it was spying on him and coincidentally we picked up his conversation with flynt is untrue there were no unmasking requests and yet by january the good which is when mccabe the Deputy Director of the f. B. I. Is having a conversation with mary or was. Just as public by then mccabe knew all about the just react hole and was already bringing up the logan act and obama on january the 5th also knew all about the the phone in just the acro so how did they know about it there were no unmasking requests that leased the conclusion that it was flynn and flint always who was the target of the Obama Administration they were spying on flynn and who would have the authority to order this flight the f. B. I. Didnt because the f. B. I. There was no phase the warrant on the plane because would have known about it from the Inspector General report and he said no there was no files that warrant was in the cia this its illegal for the cia to spy on an american citizen so it had to have come from above unless it really does point to the central figure in all of this and its been obvious from the stuff that people like comi and others wouldnt have just been going around spying on the trunk campaign without authorization from somebody much more senior than if its a Counter Intelligence operation they are the white house would obviously know it here you know you dont blend ive been covering this story slavish me exhaustively for its rina have years and i have always been very careful to choose my words trying and i have never invoked obama to radically however we. Last weekend when he was talking out with his cronies on the transportation which of course was obviously fed to the media and his supreme. Leisure about how the Justice Department has called for the end of the prosecution of obama general slim and this shows a direct connection also we know that joe biden was on list but with as you know no math lins name to everybody was doing it apparently everybody denied it also so im very very curious here is the difference renay have 2 years we have slaved away on this program with acts and trying to understand how all the moving pieces were and now as this is unraveling this conspiracy because it was is that you have the Mainstream Media in the political establishment theres nothing to see here i mean this is so insulting to the public and this is such a disservice in journalism because isnt it i think its one of the reasons why theres so much discord in the United States about the endemic is that people have lost their trust in media and actually did lost their trust in government as well. There are so many occasions discussing it when this is a rush a hoax would eventually blow up and what time it what happened and if so what would be there are cautions now obviously. You know well sure to tread carefully because this is sort of very easily wrong can be denounced as conspiracy there is however a record of it during. This russian hoax investigation there was also argued that they did not believe in the collusion they were accused peddling conspiracy if there is so if you do believe in the Conspiracy Theory that you were a conspiracy theorist and now it has been turned a bit on obama then the same words are being used as a conspiracy i would. Very much agree with out what george said but this didnt come out of nowhere again if you go by that the Democratic Party who lost the election and there. Hadnt seen 2060 and they commissioned this report known as the still us air where all this accusation began with oh this turned out also to be all fabricated and state but nonetheless this became the source of all wrote legend my own reasoning for this we are to do the research into you want to meet us limit real let me jump in here but before they made these spies to replace they already knew the dossier was bogus ok again we have all predicates and they actually committed to fraud on device or court ok this is what we have learned recently as well i mean no matter where you want to jump in on this conspiracy hoax its that its not going to keep on by then these revelations are came out very likely that theyve been the most damaging because on the 29th of april we learned that the documents from the f. B. I. Themselves revealed their objective is introduced out with general slater aflame of course when they were going to see him didnt tell him he was being investigated needed kone had to admit that this was very odd press and this is not how things are. And as were showing these documents. I went there on a mission which was to try to provoke a more tricksy me into their life in order to have documents suggest to me to quit or be fired and this was referred to them. Or this has been previously revealed in s. M. S. As between 2 f. B. I. Agents who refer to the need to take trump down the gentleman sure is also against them though this is not a theory or accusation this is what has already been proven and no one is that dismissing it so if these are all the facts no one is contesting it you have to ask what actually makes it a conspiracy no im not saying maybe this is all a lot of coincidences obama knew nothing about it but surely this suggests it would be a good reason to investigate what the. Obama did that abound and using this charity state to take our Political Columnist this is. Well i think we ran a point where i think that we have to have the. Senior members of the administration including the president the Vice President explain to us i mean go i mean im not looking for drama here ok im not i think we need to close this chapter year but we need to understand whats going on a lot of lives have been destroyed and incompetence in government institutions and in the media and big shots ok so i think we accountability is necessary here george i mean. I keep thinking about you know when when when when there was the change of the transition of power obama is on the record of warning president elect strummed about general flynn and kim jong whom i mean thats certainly not a coincidence and if it is then you know i can sell you the Brooklyn Bridge go ahead well exactly and again if you look at the timeline 2016 the f. B. I. Opens an investigation of flynn what was the predicate a ridiculous story that he had attended a dinner at cambridge and he was romantically involved with a russian academic who suppose off with this. Russian academic and she was an academic youth well and so the f. B. I. Opens this investigation finds eventually that there was nothing that the nothing derogatory its about to close this investigation a ridiculous investigation to begin with and then. Theyre basically they get an order of dont close it now this all of it came from up above this was already because this is if you look at the. January the all that will be the f. B. I. Matter want to close it by january the 3rd already mccabe is talking no no weve got to keep the investigation going but on the basis of what hes not no longer. A russian asset the logan at that of course the logan act is so ridiculous that even they know that they cant possibly go ahead with a logan act so then they cook up this thing about getting him to lie on the record to f. B. I. Agent but even that is a fraud because he didnt lie to the f. B. I. Agents and it was a deliberate deception that was played which was the issue of the sanctions and the expulsion of the diplomats because the the in the indictment statement the defense gets referring to over he said he didnt talk about sanctions when he didnt talk about sanctions against the act didnt talk to him about sanctions he talked about the expulsion of the diplomats so flynn didnt like it he said i didnt talk about sanctions i talked about expulsion of the diplomat and could not do better and he tante that about the United Nations Security Council vote on israel and settlements which the Obama Administration was abstaining on so i mean if you really want to get to the origins of the origins of origins i dont call it that israel game ok no one in the media ever mentions that at all you know glenn one of the things that you know we have again you know you have the people that push this this Conspiracy Theory that there are there are references always the rule of law and traditional norms here but even as we speak right now the rule of law is being brigaded you have the Justice Department dropping charges against general flynn and his trial the prosecution the defendants the lawyers full there in agreement there is no conflict with the United States government in general flynn but the judge says otherwise which a week ago the Supreme Court ruled 9 to 0 that a judge of that stature cannot change the rules of the game they cant enter a plea for the defendant. Ok particularly when the state has withdrawn 30 seconds before we go to the break go ahead well thats one of the great try to use here just this loss of confidence to. Introduce your i mean in the what what happens now when someones going to complain lynn is being let go is either on the left as it is up from conspiracy now if its based on the follow through on this and look up whats happened to. Her husband hes the right will see this as you know largely what is correct which is it was a little less what took him down using the Security State so no matter what happens now its all polarized ols will among welcome to all of that were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion and or obama get your choice stay with r. T. You cannot be both with the yeah you like. You are no offense but you no longer a young woman in fact you are one of the last living survivors of the nazi else asked i am aware of that. Leverage debt all you like. And you can never forget maybe you can now auschwitz was really like to be in hell because he would never believe it wasnt a human can do to as a hobbit cause for 33 years of filth and be heard of it it all seems so a lot offered by his side to make it right when i get out on the farm saw you know what its like ma song to their next meal so he can listen and hopefully bless god her experience. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to air force base in alaska where is that to say come on ill show you whats the reason for any type of enhanced u. S. Military presence in this area russia. What is it suddenly about the South China Sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. Take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. At the Financial Times today about Money Laundering 1st because its just a different. We have our 3 banks all set up for something and youre something in america something over the Cayman Island you do all these banks are complicit in there we just have to. Do some serious. Ok lets see how we did well we got a nice luxury watch for max and for stacy beautiful jewelry and how. Much youre going to build again from that you know what moneys going to hire. A bunch. Welcome back to crossfire where are all things are considered im Peter Lavelle to remind you were discussing obama gate. Ok george let me go back you on budapest youre one of 8 we were talking about be the bait about general one might be prone to the break which is very very interesting i think i understand why judge sullivan is doing what hes doing is hes being obstructionist ok and he will fail in his endeavor to change the rules of the game its only a matter of time he could actually youve been face impeachment but even if that is the course of action thats going to take a long time i think i know what this group is all about is to force trump to tar and in everyones minds you got a pardon that must mean hes guilty and thats how the public will receive it here and theyre trying to force trumps hand again it has nothing to do about that they think this individual though i do not agree with on everything he is policies before he became the National Security advisor but its just a fact that this persons rights have been grossly violated here what they want so forth from the give a pardon and theyll save the victory because if you dont get this conviction this is patently obvious it was a Conspiracy Theory that just completely unraveled is one of the sites where george yes i agree with that that thats the goal i think in other goal is to delay this for as long as possible because the moment this trial ends and the case is thrown out flynn will speak and then we go to find out much more about why it was that obama was so obsessed with and why was it that obama targeted play in such a long time he will speak out this is what solomon wants to prevent so hes. Century 8 rationally oh well well have others you know theres a miki coming in with arguments and that will have another judge coming in with an argument just to the latest on this months work to get tossed in november because the moment flynn speaks it will be highly damaging to the democrats this is a 3 star general he has been mia. And you know attacked in an outrageous fashion hes going to speak out and this will really. Bite and so i think thats what some of this osullivan is always a political as a political caucus. And hes now trying to save obama particularly after obama made his dramatic intervention because hes been silent all this time is to completely silent about russia gate suddenly he steps in and why does he suddenly step then because it affects plan plan is about to go and thread is about to speak out and obama then rushes in and issues he is socalled secret. Injunction to his his minions i think they i think the obama world has a taste of whats going to come glenn because a joe biden was asked by media friendly people i think it was i think it was c. N. N. Yes it was a. B. C. News with George Stephanopoulos he was asked a softball question about his what was the reason why he asked for the unmasking of linen and the meeting that he attended in the white house then just discussed there and joe biden bungled it ok badly ok and you can bake it in bundles it all the time here but its already planted the seed even in. The rural friendly media is that there was something afoot here and believe me the drunks arrogance were never going to let this go and for very good reason that i mean the country was in the world i mean look how its affected geopolitics this is a hoax i end. And its not it is hoaxes like a bell that you cant remain unfortunately a lot of things that happen as a result of this so i mean glenn how how does the how do we cover from this because no one in the media is good in madrid they were wrong is admitted there were people saying theres new conspiracies russia is going to undermine into 2020 alexion and i suppose theyll somehow say it was a russias top of the pandemic i mean given the track record of laos for years i would be surprised so i mean what is the damage done by this conspiracy that isnt round go ahead well i think you are this is what impact elections are a great step i was going to thats why i still relevant on the 4th of january when when the f. B. I. Suggested there was. There was a compromise there was time to shut this down day out of their way and their leadership said no keep it open this is the same day when the obama stuff 1st began this. Biden was there 1st you denied it. Right email so so are obviously this will because he simply implicated this well obviously theyre much way into the election and im the mother of the sure how they can heal or overcome discuss with discuss before no matter what happens no the other side will see it as being. Essentially and their views on the legal system and. Even some of the republicans are being cautious about going after obama because if it hurts president is going after the former president myself about business and this acclaimed of us what about the main problem though is you have all those problems now with the security space which has been spent string for so long again this didnt come i dont know where youre going to find out you know James Clapper and the cia director john brennan go tonight about the n. S. A. Spying on americans and spied on the senate you have a turn in china. Churnalism it doesnt make shame very very common to do all this and furthermore that the journalists on who seem to have much of an interest are into this and the larger reason because of this is you know in the past unless they were very critical of the security agencies but now they have them on as guests on their t. V. Show. Just now theyre hiring them as well so the question now becomes also going to having a media will not just have disappeared just want to read whats what the events of the world are and saw them to become too close with this affair is that in this hour the problem with this polarization because if if. Theyre all going against that Trump Administration must mean theyre good and would take their side so this was happens during extreme polarization you no longer have principle politics you know its out there we are going to suggest a shot at each other as you protect your people in fact others are and in this polarization is paris not yet entire legal system not states has taken a big hit my and my recommendation will be to air the problems because you have to have it on much after you know that actually the 1st gate watergate you have to erode their problems and then recovery cant just say this is going to hurt the country lets just. Give this this nonsense out on the news or its a very good because you know well i think that you know we could be easily accused of framing it as just being and george im touring the primary the democrats really get paid and it was really amazing that that was good primary. Bernie sent you so youre even you know intels says that you know that the russians are all rooting for Bernie Sanders see they did it again ok they wanted it theyve been trying to make out they tried to kneecap when they did it very. Forcible job by making you know when so early in the administration and then during the recent right mary bernie. Sanders gets ensnarled bennett ok and of course the media gleefully report this year because they dont want sanders they i mean the left you know who are all the bed in the House Republicans with it no less most venomous and against progressive on tyrants and there was another way to meet count Bernie Sanders during their primary im just trying to pick up on a point that glenn was saying here its just not one person one it ministration well this is a this is a bad habit that is being allowed to continue go ahead yes i agree entirely and what is really going on here is very sinister i mean after all democracy is about the peaceful transition of power you lose an election you congratulate the winner and you help the winner take over the seat of power thats what happens in a democracy we had exactly the opposite that took place under obama they didnt accept the result of the election they cooked up a fraudulent florrie about russian interference and collusion between russia and trump using teligent agencies to spread this story into the media dealership denies the Incoming Administration and as you say all the administration prevent the administration from pursuing the policy it can actually run on in the election what is it that really what a democracy is not suppose and this is much more serious than war to get i mean i know trump says this everyone dismisses it much much more serious i mean theyre all you had was some clowns in the white house basement. Doing nefarious things this is that the head of the cia the head of the f. B. I. These other people in the government who are engaged in a conspiracy to swallow what the peoples vote did the interesting thing is and i never tire of mind our viewers of this is that that the real scandal of watergate was actually the cover of not the break ins ok and also watergate. The f. B. I. And the cia they were asked in the next administration i asked for help they said no clear were not going to get involved in your mess ok and of course the media played a responsible role glenn now we have now we have this Security State the deep state and media in locks up with the one Political Party or one political ideology theyre all mobilized together i would actually throw in hollywood and the universities know well that maybe this is what makes it so the berry very different and i think that again i remember doing my 1st program on this after when it 1st broke ok and i said the damage this will do to institutions in the belief in democracy will be hard to underestimate and i think ive been proven my and im very proud of cross for covering this so transparently for the last 3 and a half years weve got it right i very rarely pound myself on the back but this program got to write it because of guests like you go ahead. And i dont know i think its for the center is this worth an alter your fine to do this see a postmortem of 0 on top and because that is a magical where we are now where elected officials if then immediately synergy if youre here you know if they cant have a postmortem why they lost the election in 2016 why do we think that its even possible that they will have a postmortem under this here ok because i would say theyre ideologically obsessed reason is not part of their political clout it was im sorry go ahead well this is a problem now no to know for fact what was previously cis to be conspiracy got to have the f. B. I. Have the head of the cia that theyre all working there really against on their mind you know some of the election now that we know this and this are recognized. Well roboto were going to do about them was still there we see that theres an interesting phenomenon where they look to the fish if theyre trying to challenge these heads of the Security States even though they are not being true to a lot. You still are treated us being almost treasonous you know you really are living in a fantasy land can you not listen to this if you ask for any evidence were going to what actually is evidence of destruction what exactly russia trying to cooperate this is this is maddening and still its just accept that if you question it they simply point out well us what did you want to know tonight you know we learned them going in and theres no george here in budapest i remember using a communist hungary im ignorant long as poland this is what this sounds like this is how it was they bomb was all and now we now get a little of that my guess and also and good rest and thanks to our viewers for watching us eat our museum next. Week. We go to work so straight home. During the vietnam war u. S. Forces are also bombs in neighboring laos there was a secret war. And for years the American People did not know. How much in a sufficient amount carry back country per capita all Human History millions of unexploded bombs still in danger lives in this Small Agricultural country Jordyn Wieber going to continue to happen. Even today kids in laos full victim to bombs dropped decades ago is the us making amends for the tragedy in laos what help do the people need. In that little land of mine. When i was told some seemed wrong all right old roles just dont call. Me old yet to shape our disdain to come out ahead and engagement because betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. Join me every thursday on the alex im unsure when ill be speaking to give us the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Welcoming of us from around the world live from Central London this is r. T. U. K. The Health Secretary defends the governments approach to the Coronavirus Crisis in care homes claiming a majority of them didnt even have had the outbreak yet. Public transport has ramped up as police have deployed to deal with workers returning to the office that says the British Government is accused of closing the doors of those frontline key workers from a ball with its latest immigration. The British Government is not ruling out taking action against councils who refused to reopen schools in the 1st of the pull the particle saying they want to be sending children back ill be joined by Teaching Union official working with the little council. And also the influential committee of m. P. s and peers demand that the government be forced to delete data gathered by its Contact Tracing out if one is about privacy. The Health Secretary matt hancock has defended the British Governments approach to care homes during the Coronavirus Crisis thats after he was accused of failing to meet with bosses in the lead up to the lockdown which critics say could have cost lives already caseys alley has all the latest so fascinating what happened just recently in the house of commons well weve been seeing match bangkok speaking in the house of commons a cool civil suit she has come in since the big criticism when it comes to the issue. 19 so she can set c. And so on and so one of the people who was taking exhaust was his opposite number John Ashworth 2 is that the shadow of Health Secretary. Over 12500 people have died in care homes because of covert 19 now last week he said he put a protective ring around care homes from february but yesterday a care home provider in the sunday times wrote and i quote elderly people went to par would say and i quote the government were asleep up the real at the wheel isnt the reality that there was no early lockdown of care homes were needed there was no testing of people transferred from hospital to care homes until mid april seeding this virus p. P. Was requisitioned from care home staff and given to the n. H. S. Because of wider shortages there was indeed guidance suggesting infection was unlikely and that garners was still in place when there was community transmission. Of course one of the accusations is that people were released from hospitals back into care homes without being tested and thats the reason that the pharmacy transmitted into social care settings for the whole circuitry i didnt defend himself saying that the government have been rolling out testing and that most care homes havent been affected by co going to not small. Making sure that we have the protection that ring of protection around her hands is important of course the majority of care homes have not had an outbreak a tour and we should we should thank the those running cat homes for the incredible hard work and the Infection Control that they put in place meaning that in a total of 62 percent of all care homes there has not been a nap break and where there has theres been rigorous Infection Control and and a huge amount of work gone into that we have as you said now got testing for all and that that of course started with testing throughout for those for people who tested who had and the 1st symptoms in a cat home but now its all stuff and all residents whether symptomatic or not and there was no large down scale and removal of people from hospital into cow homes towards the start of this crisis as has been implied by some in fact the number of people moving from hospital into care homes has full of them throughout this crisis. Now its also been accused of not conducting a single meeting with shareholder leaders and so for that reason hes been accused of trying to tighten perhaps other areas of the n. H. S. Over the situation in charities and other social settings dharm you know all the government have also updated their advice when it comes to corona virus and its symptoms adding the loss of chasing the last smell cooled and also made out to the list of the issue symptoms telling people that if they do have any of these symptoms that they should sell for a century at least 7 days if not longer if they have a High Temperature to go with it as well and they say here we are at the start of the week more people are going back to work. Absolutely we saw last week the gradual easing of some of the lockdown measures which lets people who couldnt work from home being told that they should return back to work initially there were scenes of packed chub trains last week this week saying the same story of people returning back to work however that hasnt been quite the same type of images of people cramming onto the Public Transport Network network rail saying that they continue at the levels of uptake significantly below the average and that people arent rushing back and that the platforms and the trains arent fully packed with people that hasnt stopped however transport police and the British Transport Police and going onto platforms to try to stop people from gathering and packing on trains where they see that taking place and also from people perhaps breaking those to meet a social distancing rules elsewhere weve seen the Health Sector apologies also weve seen the home secretary pretty cell introducing her key legislation to reform the immigration system in the u. K. We see the introduction of a points based system however theres been much criticism from her for the introduction of that into the commons and one of those voices has been her opposite number the shadow of our own Nick Thomas Simmons who has accused the house actually government in general of being hypocrites i believe the governments plan to rush through this immigration legislation is an insult to our incredible n. H. S. Staff and care workers has frankly rank hypocrisy from the government towards e. U. Nationals over 180000 england and wales alone who are currently working in our n. H. S. And in the care sector for ministers to stand and clap for them on a thursday night and then tell them that they are not welcome in the u. K. On a monday. So there are also been those who are accused the government of excluding some of the very people with the n. H. S. Because of course some of the restrictions well dug immigration bill would simply make it impossible for people to continue to come from abroad to work in the n. H. S. Those workers of course being very key to the continuation of its fights against voted 90. Thank you very much indeed for that update form a n. H. S. Trust chairman royal lineage spoke to me earlier about the 10 homes crisis and he believes its the product of profile that mismanagement on the governments part. I think it was a misjudgment that the carriage could code because the care homes do care most of them are not Nursing Homes they dont have a nursing component they cant do burial nursing their record short for personal protective equipment there was no testing regime available to all they were now and again was a government failure in my view so the whole thing was misjudged right from the start and was till now trying to recover misjudgment and also mishandling because it looks pretty bleak if matt hancock did fail to engage with bosses despite the warnings well you know what i saw that this morning that press report this morning i was just go up smack frankly i mean the 1st thing you do in things like this and its been my been in and around government in the n. H. S. For years the 1st thing that ministers do is call it the most appropriate people in the atacama round table conflict now you cant do that now in person but you can certainly do what were doing here on the t. V. On r. T. Right now were using skype perfectly adequate to have a conversation they should have had a crisis conversation with the care homes drish them sourly said what do you need how can we help you to make this safe water all the components of this and to find that it was left to a junior minister and i mean i have note criticism of the young woman who is that Union Minister but i mean she was only elected in 2000 fish stage she has very little experience and very little experience frankly of managing anything so i think it was a disaster from the start i also spoke with a Welsh Council leader entered the home whose mother has tested positive for corona virus in a care home hit by an outbreak. To be a veteran of another story really because they care about story brilliant thats the point i made it only reports to newspapers and to the media generally then terms youve been well cared for and looked after its a rather small home in terms of the size and quantity but quality wise are excellent and theyve been keeping it under lock and key safely and up not like visitors and all the rest of it. But then all of sudden they were hit with it because somebody came in from hospital who they are there to ensure that they didnt have the virus and they were given im sure im spent and they did how did the virus so and so weve got it not wait unfortunately that lead into within 2 days but the virus was in and theyve gone through that and so far everything everybodys coming through it sort of unscathed do you say do you say they can has been absolutely brilliant how they cope since the virus entered the home how is the cabin affected from from what you gather. Well i have a conservation and that is that is a manager s. And ive been having a conversation you know as a center as a you know it all mother in them but also as a Council Leader and blazing on you know so you know what what what what special you wouldnt and they sounded immediately really once once once there was any danger of it happening it was it was owned into red and green and kept apart and then people kept the room and segregated in order to get over the period where they fought out and fought it you know with gusto really and made it worth but the other one to that that is that theyve all been tested no stuff on residence but unfortunately my i was told at the weekend that my mother has tested positive so and so she has courted again no and they would be treating her again for that although she is not showing any any hint symptoms with that said that your mothers have been tested twice and then found to be positive with kind of a cheap base to have the illicit twice we know she was tested the 1st time and that was just a single attached and she was she was not positive on that web but this weekend they were tested as a care home and in that general test she came back positive. And lets take a look at how the outbreak has been affecting the home nations and england has reported 122 fatalities since yesterday the scottish 1st minister confirmed 2 more deaths in scotland while highlighting lower levels of we can reporting wales for northern and 6 well the scottish 1st minister has announced that tests some are available for anyone in scotland over 5 should they develop symptoms the world government is on build over 3 point 75000000. 00 pounds of Mental Health funding for schools to support children under 11 and the northern arden police and borders north of human rights review into the way police implemented new powers during the outbreak it comes after the force was criticised for preventing residents travelling long distances to take exercise the center turn to the global numbers and according to Johns Hopkins university which collects worldwide data of a 4700000 have been infected over 315000 have now died and more than 1700000 have recovered. With some European Countries gradually lifting lock downs and the start of the tourist season the World Health Organization was that the 2nd wave may be inevitable this winter when while russia has resited less than 9000. 00 new cases bringing levels down to those seen on may the 1st leading spanish newspaper has revealed that of the countrys 28000 coronavirus deaths 17 and a half 1000 took place in cairns. Still to come out of the south. The government from these councils with action if they stop children going back to school at the beginning of june with liverpool already declaring it wont be reopening classrooms ill be talking to a Union Representative shortly. And m. P. s among the government be legally forced to delete data gathered from its Contact Tracing up as soon as the pandemic is over. The world is driven by shaped by one person or those with. No dares thinks. We dare to ask. Is youll be via reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe from. Heis a nation full community. Are you going the right way or are you being led so. Direct. What is true what is faith. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us and. Or a make in the shallows. Korea think in the schools is just around the corner on june the 1st but some authorities claim they wont be following the u. K. Governments ticked at and the culture secretary hasnt ruled out taking action to force them well i hope that we can all continue to Work Together as one nation. I think if we can get children back to school and its safe to do so and we should really try to do so reception year one year 6 a due to head back to school by the start of june in england while schools in wales northern and scotland may keep their doors shut till September Liverpool and hartlepool have gone against the governments reopening time line and will remain closed in june unless newcastle and Gateshead Councils refused to adopt the stay alert slogan siding with the other home nations on that. Im not joined by teacher and Teaching Union official who works with Liverpool City Council Damien Mcnulty damian good of you to join us so well why is liverpool choosing to defy the government as it seems well its not necessarily defying the government weve just heard their culture secretary say if schools are safe to open then the should from the 1st of june and thats absolutely the position of Liverpool City Councillors take it not so their schools wont open but they will open when they are safe to do so and theyre working very closely with trade unions who represent the workforce to ensure that its safe for the staff to come back and the young people so you may not deem it to be safe until maybe the autumn september but of course the government could force you to open schools well before hand. Well in fairness to the people who are making the decisions about when schools open will be the governing bodies of the trustees and academies i think the lord mayor not not the lord mare that the Mary Liverpool joe understand is looking for piracy Going Forward so that local authorities had those times to close and or open schools they mean as a teacher though you worried that social distancing methods cannot be realistically achieved in in the school environment. Well that as i sit here talking to you today i volunteer in my own school to explain which is a Primary School and ive been spending some time with our side my major having a look around and its certainly possible to do some forms of social distancing but there will have to be changes to the routines in screw furniture and need to be one way systems put in place and there are a number of elements or questions around we should do with frequency of cleaning whos going to do that i can find more stuff to do so of course very Young Children do find it difficult to maintain social distancing space that you know its just not in the nature of a 456 year old child to want to be. A large distance away from their friends and the children at the ridgeline school so despise it being feasible is a massive challenges you and father teaches all facing but of course bear in mind the children they do need to get back to school as quickly as possible its important alpha that that is educations been disrupted and of course perhaps the Mental Health could be affected by this of course and listen to teachers up and down the country and the support stuff they want to get back to work as soon as they can and when its safe to do so our members agree more can tremendously and this is the 9th weeks and screws that close to ensure the children of access i Quality Resources when theyre not able to be in school and there can be no died the sooner the children come back to school the better but when its safe to do so liverpool for example in the end the areas around merseyside have very high rates of social deprivation they are factor is higher merseyside in liverpool has the highest death rate per 100000 precode 19 sadly so getting the planning stage right at the low skews to open ensure that there isnt a 2nd spike in the wider transmission across the community that the children live in this crucially important of course we really dont know when were going to achieve absolute certainty that this virus is over and done with do not accept this always going to be an element of risk in any start up situation. Absolutely of course listen take teachers are well used to construct in risk assessments when we take children on visits when we plan residential activities we know we can never eliminate risk but what we can do is make sure that we pick can show measures in place and at this point unfortunately the government sequencing timing of how did in one schools opening was the wrong way round and we had the prime ministers announcement to some days ago with very little detail about practicalities and what guidance would be in place the guidance has been slowly coming its still nowhere near comprehensive enough and of course that we need we havent seen the science the science hasnt been shared with us and the government has put had teachers in the government bodies and trustees of the Academy Trusts and such a difficult position in terms of trying to get schools open on the 1st of june but of course lets not forget the culture secretary just said in your clip will open if safe to do so lets leave it to the professionals lets leave it to the health and safety advisers lets leave it to the representatives lets leave it to that teachers and give them bodies to determine when their schools are safe to do so the sooner we can get schools open safely the better for the workforce in the better for the children and clearly youve been doing some grandma who already you say being talks with the will site manager if you are in charge what overriding measures and guidance would you give englands teaching profession right now. You know your screw you know your children you know what will work social distancing is important we know that when susan when social distancing is following use my own school as an example no member of staff was the school has been closed to move beyond providing childcare has been diagnosed with carolyn one thing we know would work so we need to find a safe systems of work. To start to re repopulate school with children with stuff that are available to be in work for them to ensure its safe for everyone demi mcnulty thank you very much indeed for being with us when it all does start to happen and open we wish you the very best of luck in all that youre doing thank you thank you very much. Meanwhile the confusion caused by different regions doing things differently in relation to the virus is very plain in some parts of the u. K. Not least for those on the borders between 2 regimes as one town is finding out. This road is called Boundary Line obviously the word says explanatory that side there is no england and this side here that were standing on is wales. Im on furlough at the moment i live in england at the minute i work for a company thats in wales so i can go to work as its still short anyway. The Health Secretarys announced at 21000 people have now been hard to carry out Contact Tracing in the country to support the n. H. S. Contact tracing up matt hancock said the system was nearing completion despite concerns are privacy. The work of these 21000. 00 people will be supported by the n. H. S. Code 19 which were piloting on the isle of wight at the moment and will then roll out across the rest of the country taken together this means that we now have the elements we need to roll out our National Test tray service the Testing Capacity the tracing capability and the Technology Building that system is incredibly important but so too are the basics but hancocks comment comments come as a group of m. P. s and peers drafted a bill requiring the government to delete all the data it gathers only up chair of the joint committee on human rights Harriet Harman says new government powers require robust legislation to protect the public we cannot rely on the current failed mishmash of protections that were never envisaged for this situation we need new legislation government collection of our movements and physical contacts that have been on conscionable before but now it is happening part of a completed emergency legislation for new powers it can do it now for new protections the ukase up trials on the other white should have been available by mid may according to Health Secretary mt gox it allows those with a positive test or showing symptoms of the virus to alert those nearby who they have come in contact with but issues with privacy particularly regarding centralized days a gathering of led to the delay n. H. S. X. The Health Services innovation arm said the data will either be deleted or fully anonymous so it can be used for further research. The British Government rejected the decentralized version built by apple and google as used by many other European Countries or too shy to do penske has more. As countries are rushing to develop these apps the Big Tech Companies like google and apple are already mapping out the road ahead theyre laying out the conditions for building the tools which you countries are due to rollout from next month while huge faith is being placed in Contact Tracing apps there is little solid evidence that they will be effective some are calling on governments to find some real alternatives. Like you did governments reason sure at last grizel not protective equipment and help get tests back since future condemning thats what not Data Collection theres also the question to be honest about how much control these Big Tech Companies will have all the forcing governments hands given that they already control the Smartphone Market and will be different Digital Tools from competing Companies Even be able to interact with each other the interoperability a major blind spot from a technical perspective difficult to get. One another in germany plans had been afoot to develop an app of course several countries with data being centrally stewart it later backed down and is now pursuing proposals promoted by google and apple and. The centralized solution was decided on last weekend a solution this ensures data is only stored on the device and not in a Central Location we convince the people trust it. That de centralised approach has also been taken by ireland italy and of those 2 while here in france the government has decided to shun big tech and work on its own though any app that it develops may not even fully function with apple new google phones which is potentially rather problematic and theres concern about the privacy elements while the virus tracing apps are expected to keep sensitive and private data safe as we have seen time and time again not snot always possible that may be one of the reasons why the commissioner for justice gave this warning the apps should be only used during the crisis and the day. I delayed is when the pandemic is but the decisions governments take now at a time when there is unprecedented Political Economic and Public Health pressure all the ones that will resonate for years perhaps even decades to come we wont know if iris tracing apps are useful unless significant chunks of the population download and use them but by then it may already be too late mass surveillance may become normalized all in the name of staying healthy. Arty paris news in just over half an hour including the governments daily Coronavirus Press briefing given today by the Health Secretary that. Montes Holiday International memorial awards are now open for entries the media professionals are eligible whether youre a freelance journalist who work for alternative media or part of a global News Platform to participate send a show published works in video all written for much go to award dot altie dot com and then to now. 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