Amplifier is going to be around the plane china strategy the g. O. P. Amount all they came out a few weeks about a month ago talks explicitly about that when anything comes up blain china issue that to me is that may be a good political strategy the question is whether. Thats really going to set us in a good position as we move forward as james pointed out 1. 4 percent and people. A large economy growing all the time how are we going to assure that china doesnt become a nightmare more than a dream where we can find ways in order to Work Together we need to get past this election cycle and whoever is elected is going to have some repair work to do to assure that chinas rise doesnt come that the u. S. Is demise ok well james if this kind of begs the question because. People are commenting about a new cold war i dont like that phrase because the cold war that all of us remember was very specific and it was very ideologically driven this is not the case here so it does does america need china as an enemy it seems that American Foreign policy always is looking for the next hitler and it looks like china is the next hitler in the minds of the form the blob because id like to point out up until about the february this year it was hardly ever mention that china is a communist country and the communist party of china they constantly pound away at that and thats all obviously an echo to the cold war that we all lived through ahead james. This is a very old tradition in american politics in American History that the chinese if you listen to pompei on all the spokespeople theres the Chinese People we love the Chinese People all the chinese haters say it 1st the Chinese People are wonderful hardworking people we have nothing against them but if those commies so 200 years ago it was the emperor the Chinese People were great they all want to be just like us christian block dinners but its the emperor that stopping them from becoming americanised and then it was my pajamas he was keeping the top people down if we could just get rid of mouths of Chinese People are going to rise up demand democracy and now if you listen to it there is no more china in pompei ill speak its the c c p the Chinese Communist party as if thats like 3 guys and if we just move them put them in another room everythings going to be ok theres 90000000 people in the Chinese Communist party this is this is the largest i call it a mandarin you know the old mandarins theres the emperor and the mandarin beijing 90000000 Chinese Communist populations larger than European Countries very competent people who have to rise through a meritocracy to get where they are and were going to push this aside the Chinese People are very happy with their their government relatively nothings perfect but look at the accomplishments of the of the of the Chinese Communist party from the chinese side then youll see that pompei is just making this up yet he did come to one of the things that he did when i when i look at Media Coverage of china. There is this amazing unwillingness to say the obvious of what is how his china has changed in the last 40 years i mean youll. Hes here theyre building more Nuclear Weapons and theyre building their navy and you know all of their military technology but they dont talk about how many people per pulled out of poverty and how china is on the cutting edge of so many technologies right now because you cant admit that because it will then you have to look in the mirror and look at your own failings and this is what american elites can simply refuse to do is it its not the success of china it you know they dont want to talk about the success of china but they certainly wont admit theyre all of the neo liberalism and how that is really damaged the United States economy and its middle class. If you take a look at whats transpired and in the peoples republic of china over the last half century clearly theres the good the bad. And if you point out the bad and youre interfering in chinas internal affairs and and you can get banned and pushed aside as its relates to working with the party and others within china but as you pointed out peter there has been in the fact is that chinas more people out of abject poverty then and we have people in the United States of america perhaps double that number as we look at trying to to hold china back thats not going to happen were going to think that somehow or another that were not sunk our chest and china is going to fall to the United States. Wishful thinking and so while we need to think its a strategy to address the issues the real issues which china between the United States china and other democracies we also need an Investment Strategy in the American People when we take a look at what china is doing around Artificial Intelligence Big Data Technology its not just the factory of the world anymore theyre in the game to win im told youre going us box europe in the one. And d. C. Suburbs and when i got into the rank you know with my best friend i was there to win and it should come as no surprise to us i mean i find it kind of amazing that people say china is looking to beat us well no candidate. Who strives to be number 2 said china is going to be there so the question has to be whether its to biden or trump whatever is going to be the leader what are you going to do to invest in infrastructure in america our roads bridges airports the train system i mean its a joke compared to what you say the investment of the Chinese People so what are we going to do to invest in an Education Workforce Development Research and research and develop those are the issues that we need to focus on and while we point to the bogeyman of china that isnt doing a darn thing to the people that james talked about in those midwestern states im one im here in michigan we certainly have been hurt not only by globalization and china but Automation Technology which is really wreak havoc and has been similar to the economic tsunami that goes in 1000 is unleashed on the world you know james im really glad that become mention this because you know the competition we elise all 3 of us im sure were brought up competition is good because it brings out the best in you and it brings the best out of your opponent as well but its because china is just different and it must be the must be unfair theyre cheating that theyre not playing on a level Playing Field you know you always hear all these excuses here not now well just as we just heard the u. S. Just refuses to invest in itself and its people and this is what happens ok its no surprise this is happening and and in toms absent chinese here too out there to weigh in and that makes perfect sense to me and it we need a policy to getting gauges that that avoids conflict obviously and actually competition can find. Profits for both sides if you look at it in a in a rational way if this is history great powers rise and fall maybe in one of these moments now go ahead james. You know i agree with you that theres tectonic plates plates changing is bigger than just the u. S. And and china a lot of changes taking place but within the china u. S. Situation yes they want to win and in my book it goes back to remember back in the 1990 s. When we had Newt Gingrich and bill clinton and sex scandals and and the New York Times is full of 5 pages of detail about sex and then we moved on to bush and we had to take trillions of dollars and put it in the sand in the middle east well in the 1990 s. When we were. Arguing about nonsense the founders of weiwei were sleeping on cement floor dreaming of 5 g. Theyre worried about the next meal. China was you know right now were surprised you know china i. And all this high tech and weve got to invest and weve got to get gaunt that i was touring china in the early 2000 making these speeches weve got to get go and weve got to stop investing in blowing up sand and start investing in our own country theres a race for the future and i could see it happening in china but you know were going to hear this in 2016 no one is you did it ok im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion of perceptions of china at stake. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Tyson nation community. Are you going the right way or are you being so. Direct. What is true what is faith. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or remake of the shall i say. Welcome back across town where all things are considered im peter let me remind you were talking about perceptions and misperceptions of china. Ok lets go back was go back to detroit you know tom one of the things that i have been observing here particularly there was a pentagon report on the on the Defense Department about assessing china and it was pretty grim reading and id like to point everyone out theres a wonderful article in the american conservative all sums it up i think its still there from. Me it seems to me that theres always this kind of knee jerk response when theres a. The pentagon is you know its a hammer and everything its hes in the world is a nail ok and and weve seen in that weve talked about previously the 1st part of the program is that when Ailes America is not necessarily china threat it is the inability to respond to the threat and i will invoke you know the military. Industrial complex this is a this is another gravy train just like take Korean Peninsula which is the gravy train for if they dont change it the status quo is great because everybodys making a lot of money dont take it with nato because everybody is making a lot of money the same thing is going is happening now with china and sitting day 18 china. As the as a peer power ok which i think we all should do admit it at least on most metrics here but no whats this plan for for military conflict it seems to me that is so counterproductive that really what we really needed for that kind of relationship that we should have china go ahead let really goes back you know and when i reflect on it current up in d. C. In the sixtys in nappanee relationship with china i remember 2 sayings my mom telling me to eat mikeys the children are starving in china i still have the onload to mail those peas to the children of china and my dad telling me to stop digging in the backyard because im going to let the commies them and im going to fall into china. But i didnt factor for it in a Childrens Book im in the process of getting published where i talk about you know that ive fallen into this hole that my dad told me and i look back from 1063 falling into the hole and waking up in china in 2020 and i look back through the hole to america and i see the challenges that we are facing whether its split Food Insecurity unemployment the disaster on the response to the Global Pandemic and you can blame china for their slow response but we have to take a look internally of what we did after we know we have Serious Problems in this country to address the last thing that we need to do is be going on some military it better and spending trillions of dollars and that i should imagine if those dollars the james talked about a minute ago. Did invest over the last few decades in the people of the United States of america and in other western democracies and making this world truly safer for us all i think that we would see a different view of america when i look back through that hole that i fell into and so right now china is not just eating our lunch theyre eating our dinner as well if we dont get serious about invest in america and have continue to have these problems but you know what i worry about time is that is that china will be the excuse not to invest you see what im saying this is the same thing the same mines that you know you know the middle east this is pretty cheap backwater of no Strategic Value to the United States whatsoever the world is 0 wash with oil theres a theres still. They go by i feature by distrait shouldnt wont were going to get him were going to go back into syria and you know and were not going to pull out troops here i mean this is always an excuse not to invest in the American People you know james i was in beijing i think was 2 summers ago and i was obviously invited to London Bridge presentations and very i mean it was amazing trip and i as a big talker i always was asking questions and i ask the same question to id say like a dozen people and id say what is the size of the middle class whos in the middle class james you know what i got the same answer each time were all the middle class and that is such a remarkable statement and that shows a level of competence so when i went there and came back i came away with the following they know where theyre going they know how to get there and they know they will get there and that is the sense of confidence that ive never seen before maybe when i was a child in america in the midwest that was an american way of thinking its not it that the case anymore and so when when i look at china you know they need all of this chest beating the chinese just brushed it off you know were going to get were going to get to it and you know and if you want to get in the way fine but were going to get work at where our destination and i think that thats an assault confident society that ive never seen. Since my child go ahead james you know i have never heard anybody say that but thats exactly it was my 1st impression when i 1st went to china it was that these guys are better outro while they know who they are they know where theyre going and in their bodies just hope the way they help themselves talk to you not arrogant but were one 4th of humanity you know we have this long history we know who we are we know where were going. America is america doesnt have those plans we just have the next election look when john kennedy took over from Eisenhower Eisenhower said your biggest problem is laos. Kennedy didnt know anything about laos he reaches out for the levers that a president might have been lalas and what were they they were a cia secret airline laos becomes the most bomb spot in the world with china we reach out what do we have do we have like 30 years of mandarin learning like sputnik that we started 30 years ago to you know do we start our wa ways in the 1990 and we dont have any of those levers we have the military lever so were were confrontational in the South China Sea and in the himalayas now were in thailand trying to do things and you know that thats thats all weve got and we should have more we have to change this and the time is not a go ahead you know that is it that is clearly a part of it but the other is were disinvest in ways that as a really frightening to say you know has announced today that were taking a 1000 students out of china and theres 300000 students that are time studying here and there in america i mean i believe that a future leader of china is in one of our universities today so how we build this relationship and develop those soft power connections are going to be vitally important and where roading a lot of the bridges that have been built between the people at the subnational clearly i think our congress and president should be dealing with some of these National Issues you know unfair trade or theft as intellectual property or tension whether in the middle east or Global Economic theories but its a sub National Levels the governors and mayors superintendents of Schools University president s excessive we have to find ways to build that cultural educational and economic bridge between the 2nd and the 1st largest economy in the world to think otherwise is to dream. And nightmare you know it james that the fundamental problem as i see it is that we always think of it were told to think about china as it when you think in terms of its geography and the communist communist ideology the party the leader but i think you know it both of you knowing chinese history china thinks of itself as a civilizational experiment a phenomena it goes way beyond this c. C. P. Ok and the problem is here we have a we have the largest population in the world that thinks of itself as a civilization for the good and then you have american exceptionalism and this is what makes it thats why i dont like to look at the cold war with the soviet union but now we have a phenomenon here of south america the american athletes are selfconfident in american exceptionalism even though they betray it all the time they played lip service to it ok and this is this clash right here because the u. S. Is incapable of. And acknowledging appear a real peer because the soviet union was never an economic threat ever and there was almost no trade with it ok this is such a top it totally different situation right now and i wonder if the American Mind mindset is capable of adjusting to appear go ahead james. I think maybe were not capable of adjusting to appear if you listen to. You know the pump alles folks that he has out talking this anti china thing and if you listen closely in the 3rd or 4th paragraph when they get to that essence of the threat the threat is. American dominance the threat is america that china might become a leader there you know chinas not going to bomb chicago china does not want to invade you know go around the world and invade argentina what china wants to do is become a better china and america is unable to accept that for for a number of historical racial emotional reasons and were surprised that that were so challenge that this point well what tom just said about the challenges in america and we have to rebuild i imagine he and i were talking this way about 20 years ago you know at some point americas either got to get it got to get on the train and compete or you know what we could be a rich number 2 so what if china is the number one economic power in the world and were number 2 we could double the size of our economy in that world but psychologically we dont were were not allowing ourselves to think that these chinese really have their act together you know given right in america get streaming number one. You know that old saying im here to try start and china has and trying hard for over 4000 years. And certainly as a struggle to the century if you only you know the asian from 1849 i think or you know i. Kind of get back to where they were and a lot of people forget that china was the Worlds Largest economy probably you know 20. 18 of the last 20. 21 centuries to soak some tar not of the water and its own level should come as no surprise to us we had to get up every day and compete to work to remain number one and as james pointed out. If china because countries do surpass other countries if you look back in our World History it happens i think as they say on the straight stuff happens so what are we going to do to assure that their rise doesnt come out are the ones you know became so it seems to me that. The thinking is reverse and weve already touched on it is that if you make americans stronger and give them a future and give them certainty then then that and thats a selfconfident country on the world stage its not a self comping country the world stage because most people feel alienated from it and no one is everyone has the American People what they think about china were just told what to think about china and i think that is a real live duty its much better to have a rich country where people have something invested in it and i think then you would have a very different america and and just relying upon that on the military but weve seen you know particularly since the end of the cold war that leads to an entry treasury a lot of dough dead american soldiers and in the human casualties of these expeditions its been quite tragic and wasteful here are you gentlemen thats all the time we have here i want to thank my guests in detroit and in new zealand and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here r. 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