Ballots a major rock will turn out we have from commentators on key issues. So that says they want to stop the killing over so if you want to continue tell me its a joke every night after night after that a security watch the big board our system of voting is the work we also say that in the United States constitution voting is never mentioned at all. Hello and welcome Top International this friday on our coverage of cool stuff u. S. Election counting and key states continues. The contest for the white house could be over in the coming hours with Democrat Joe Biden looking. More and more likely to be declared the winner increasing his vote margins in key states however a recount has been announced in the state of georgia even american tenterhooks attention is focused on a handful of states and we all still waiting for crucial results in nevada and pennsylvania too where the democrats hold a slender. Well as it stands this is how it looks joe biden has 267 elected if you include which some do say is too early to call if you do count it though he is 6 electoral votes short of the 270 required for victory donald trump on the other hand currently stands at 214 but that said it remains a very tight race being closed in different battleground states over night in pennsylvania and nevada the former Vice President is leading by less than one percent and in georgia biden has taken the lead by just over a 1000 votes with 99 percent of the ballots counted as mentioned the margins is so tight that recount will take place incidentally a democrat hasnt won that state in decades meanwhile the race and North Carolina is still too close to cool well lets go live now to wolf in our correspondent in new york gavin it seems that were going down to the very wire just a couple of 100 a couple of 1000 votes fine margins whats the latest in these key battleground places well in arizona georgia pennsylvania and nevada biden does have a slight lead and that is causing a lot of optimism in the democratic camp this is what we just heard from nancy pelosi. I wish we werent Wearing Masks so we could see how exciting it is to come before you today with joe biden having the tremendous mandate that he has and that. Pretty soon the hyphen will be gone from Vice President to president elect joe biden now georgia is planning to have a recount following the certification of results and to address some of the concerns raised by the Trump Campaign from what we understand nevada will be getting its results on sunday at this point thats when officials estimate reveals results will be given in nevada now concerns about the possibility of fraud continue to be raised by the trump camp at this point we have heard u. S. President donald trump himself address the public and raise concerns about fraud we have heard many in the in the republican camp echo those concerns donald trump has said you know hes given a statement essentially saying that he intends he says we will pursue this process through every aspect of law to guarantee that the American People have confidence in our vote has invoked taking it to the Supreme Court donald trump is also tweeted out concerns about that about military ballots in the state of georgia saying that he feels that there possibly are some military ballots that were not properly counted and we have heard this from the Republican National committee we intend to ensure that every little fool votes and has their vote counted in accordance with the law that observed as a grounds that the access they a jew on the state law and then any irregularities that have a could with a by malicious intent or incompetence fully investigated to the fullest extent allowed under the law. Now the secretary of state of arizona has said that donald trump is incorrect and that illegal votes in arizona are not being counted furthermore in pennsylvania we have heard from the mayor of philadelphia and the mayor of philadelphia says that trumps concerns and allegations against the vote counting process in philadelphia and in pennsylvania are simply groundless and not accurate at this point weve got the Biden Campaign which has not yet declared victory already using some rather spicy language in response to donald trump on some of his allegations and the possibility that he may not leave office the American People will decide this election and the United States government is specifically capable of school passes out of the white house so at this point joe biden is expected to address the nation at some point this evening in the next few hours people will have their eyes on that there is still no clear winner declared things look good for biden right now but there is not yet a declaration of biden as the winner he is ahead in the 4 states that will be key but there has been no official declaration of victory from the Biden Campaign and were also getting a pretty strong message from the Trump Campaign that whatever official result is certified it will most likely be contested so this may not be the end of the u. S. President ial election now just picking up on what you said we would of course be retarding all texting and when and. If yes well check back for that that was capable pen reporting. Many thanks. But we thank you republican election 0 at tarrytown he explained what could happen if the folk count contested. There always is some fraud and it usually happens in the major cities and its usually where theres one Political Party control of your political machine and people have quotas to meet about how many votes theyre supposed to produce to keep their jobs in local government or their contracts and so thats kind of what happens it becomes very difficult once those ballots are in the box to to invalidate them and so whats what poll watchers are for and why be try to have poll watchers everywhere to prevent those improper ballots from being counted the problem this year is so many ballots being cast by mail were done in private without any witnesses theres always when these recounts that happen there will be challenges about what Legal Standard was apply to how to book out those votes and those issues probably will be taken up by the Supreme Court 2000 president ial election 20 years ago bush versus gore that took 37 days from the date of the election for the Supreme Court to reach the decision and thats very well may be happening again well it was got some images from washington d. C. It but out here on land to trump the demonstrators were taking a stand next to the white house and i think thats still that that calling for the vote counting to be done immediately and fanny of the Peaceful Demonstrations and support of both candidates also taking place in a number of cities. The rao over results being potentially raked started even before election day with both parties stressing the vote had to be legal. If you count the legal votes i easily win if you count the illegal votes d they can try to steal. The election from osip in america voters sacred. Its how people of this nation express their will. And it is there will of the voters no one not anything else but chooses the president of United States of america this tremendous litigation going on and this is a case where theyre trying to steal an election theyre trying to rig an election each ballot must be counted and thats what were going to see going through now and thats how it should be our goal is to defend the integrity of the election will not allow the corruption to steal such an important election or any election for that matter its a corrupt system and it makes people corrupt even if they arent. R t Senior Correspondent mark asked to discuss the tension around the country with nick youre. The u. S. Really does pride itself on its democratic system does that now appear to have glitches with everything thats going on i would say at this point more of a spectacle i mean the elections in the United States the there are always something of a shoe for the entire nation but this year in particular they seem to have outdone themselves democracy sometimes messy sometimes requires a little patience as world but that patience has been rewarded now for more than 240 years in the system of government governance in the envy of the world while the envy of the world perhaps in days long gone if youre in the United States you just a citizen wanting to exercise your constitutional right to vote what you show up at the polling station and theyll turn you right around and tell you to go and register 1st except you have to register 2 to 4 weeks in advance depending on the state you know different procedures everywhere and to register you have a say you have to have a special id card which not everyone has so far ok you will well prepared you did it you you went and registered next youve youve got to get time off work either that because in the United States whereas in europe voting is always inside everyones free everyone who vote in the United States sunday is a jewish holiday and they would make it a National Holiday voting day so you have to go to wednesday for example now theres a pandemic it is dangerous it is literally dangerous to do and stand in huge lines of people with the very little social distancing you will your vote as democrats have been urging their supporters to do you mail your vote and its lost 150000 votes have been confirmed sue for our laws. In this election and this still counts and then theres potentially tens and tens of thousands more even election as clues as this where every vote matters theyve lost so many already Democrat Officials never believe they could win this election honestly i really believe that thats why they did the mail in ballots with this tremendous corruption and fraud going on thats why they mailed out tens of millions of unsolicited ballots they refused to include any requirement to verify signatures i get is or even determine whether theyre eligible or it was a bolt of it is a nation divided more now than it has been in living memory the level of polarize ation and division Political Division in the United States is tearing the country apart and it isnt doing anyone any favors everybody understands what is happening in america but there is very little you know that nobodys willing to go to take the extra step to understand the other side everybody wants things down their way and and this is being repeated across the country protests violence Political Violence lovell to get beaten stabbed because of the color of the had to to work with slogan a new t. Shirt and this is this is being seen worldwide newbies envious of these in europe theyre saying look we we simply cant afford in content out europe to become as divided and as polarized as the United States the polarization of america should be a warning for europe we are successful because we preach differences between countries and peoples so we benefit together if we lose the ability to compromise our democracies are in danger. Well sublingual america does not quite correspond to the democratic culture we know from the United States its important the result is the accepted by everyone is easy to be a winner but sometimes it is hoped to be a loser at the end of the day the how close this election is how close the vote is where the both candidates a lot of leeway both are claiming that they are on the path to victory that their winning bird will be contested lawsuits of fire being fired off like fire crackers by trump especially the this election will be interim self said that you know this is a lonely and in the Supreme Court well despite the warning of legal action several election commissions in america have been sr that every valid vote was counted and accurately reported International Observers have also said the ballot proceeded lawfully they have slammed Donald Trumps allegations of fraud saying it damages public trust in Democratic Institutions human rights lawyer eric throughout can believe the president will fight tooth and nail to stand near full office. I think its there are advantages and disadvantages to a extended legal. Battle if you will i think that yes if the matter is not resolved by Inauguration Day that seems to be to create a constitutional crisis in the United States however if the Supreme Court is quite aware of when an operational day they set their Briefing Schedule z. They will eventually irrigates that will. And will issue the appropriate orders but donald trump is fighting for his life he knows hes going to be prosecuted criminally when hes released from the presidency and if not he wants to stay on this is very personal to him however the Supreme Court can hear the matter and hear in a quick way but i wouldnt be surprised if they want to throw that kind of curveball into it and make everyone have to hold their breath and be plugged into the drama into january but i suspect that the matter will move much quicker and i believe that it will have the president elect. Well the county has been particularly complicated in this contest and its thrown out many contentious issues to discuss just a few of them. I. Look at what the prison is doing legally the places theyre trying to intercede and serve and so if they want to stop the county other states want to continue tell me to get a concrete standard for that and as well as after show be read holder in 2014 we had to look at Voting Rights we need to in the ministries records of who the president is be authorized to make things that the 5 Voting Rights act to have National Standards only lurch and cut republican were fighting against that since the like and the what i was saying that metastasized into this years election now i dont know what about that why dont we have one uniform federal law that says when youre voting for president maybe put it on a separate take it im not sure how this will work but why dont we have one federal law for that the question is what youre asking is a great question theres a better question to which i think transcends this why is it in the year 2020 when we can map of the genome we still have this archaic system which i think speaks to something which is which makes it right and right if for any kind of shenanigans we know so much about how the votes can be stolen we had terrible days of poll taxes and literacy tests and our system of voting is the worst let me also say that in the United States constitution voting is never mentioned at all theres hardly anything new selectors and that sort of thing they never got around to it so the question we have to ask is how is that right now that we see that we have something as archaic and as stupid as it. Seems i think its really its gotten him if this is not the donald trump that were used to this is not the same fire and brimstone have bob how do you take it down to one degree. If it will say it was embarrassing it will the fed final chapter 2 will say that chapter in American History thats something you want here. On an internet war were looking at its a choice you want over a broken beat him cards that almost everything you said in that speech was a lot its all those little moments you find yourself getting angry a bit of the. Whole call understanding that there is no pair. Would you want joe biden to drive you home from the airport let me just talk about something right now where you put all this is side to says this says either something about is good or bad when we have a man but im not even sure knows where he is and he is most probably what we see is correct going to be sworn in as the president and i further predict since since were predicting he will serve my term shorter than William Henry harrison of 31. 00 days when kamel harris will be removed immediately something will happen joel will maybe perhaps that aneurism god forbid something will pop up maybe coded maybe 8 maybe senescence but he will be moved because if you think of anybody thinks that joe biden is going to be if he is the he is the intended get it and you think that well my friends happy birthday cause you were born yesterday robert can you respond to that do you think that there is a likely ive heard from a lot of people on both sides who they all seem to believe that biden will not serve his entire 1st term and i hear from democrats who say that the time with me i hear from republicans who say it would be a scandal but ive heard very few people disagree with that idea do you disagree with. Of course i disagree with that idea or still by the term i think its important that he does because hes a throwback to the era of oh thanks but we were not governing you make 51 to 49 country we were we have bipartisan agreement we did big thing to big big projects of that nature we put people on the moon 31 cold war 2 weve liberated oh there were western civilization thats what america used to do when we worked across party lines. This is a sham the fix is in the fix has been in from the beginning all these states so you know just going around the voter and changing the voting rules claiming that its because of coded setting up the scenario where you think they cant finish counting the votes in georgia or North Carolina or whatever theyre just theyre just waiting theyre coordinating with the biden people and theyre just waiting to see how theyre going to do this we all know its a joke every night after night after that i sit there and i watch the big boards you know whether its on c. N. N. Or wherever it is and guess why the numbers more votes have come in in this state more votes have come in in that state and guess what biden picked up close trumps lead is evaporating without a surprise this is really a travesty what would you guys say is the actual role of the press in these elections i mean arent we supposed to be the observers of the process because these days it does seem like the media wields so much power that it could actually steer perception steer the publics and ultimately steer the election itself. Yeah absolutely you know were supposed to be in the media the observer the impartial observer were not supposed to be influenced or in this case weve moved even past that to become the decider in fact that were in the arena is full combatants this is something almost unique to the presidency i mean the uncomfortable position of being a never trump or somebody who thinks the president should be defeated hopes he is defeated and yet finds himself very sympathetic to the president when he complains about the media because steve is right my friend steve is right the president has got an unfair shake from this media and i think its all people out there like me who dont think Donald Trumps been a good president but we hate it that we have to defend the guy against an unfair media well still had on not International Coverage of the u. S. 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Welcome back now wrangling i feel action has overshadowed another heated race in the country both parties are still grappling for seats in congress and in the days ahead of the vote democrat spent large sums of money campaigning in a bid to win more influence in the house and senate well that though has not happened the house is expected to stay in the hands of the democrats with results still coming in however some experts calculate the blue majority to actually be thin as this year and so far they are down by at least 6 incumbents 218. 00 seats they need to 20 majority so far the democrats are on 208. 00 the republicans are on 193. 00 while theres also another tussle going on for the Senate Democrats need to gain full seats to flip control of the upper house although dots unlikely as the republicans already have 148. 00 seats and have been eating and 3 of the remaining 4 races to get to 50 so thats the race for seats in congress mean. While in the president ial race the blue wave that many were predicting has failed to materialize even though joe biden is on course for victory at this stage the contest has been much closer than polls full cost Election Integrity activist an independent on the house told us why that stage was set unfortunately prior to the general election because well the candy said i thought could be trump which would include Bernie Sanders and i would even argue andrew young those arent the ones who are allowed to go up against wrong in the moment that they selected the one of the mill democrat in joe biden whos basically been by our standards a republican who is pro fact fracking just like trump who can be a little bit more hawkish on Foreign Policy than trump then you are setting the stage for a fund will go will have to vote in support base awful party lines because thats seemingly where at least the democrats are demanding we vote on and by that expire extension you want to have republicans of course staying loyal in most cases to donald trump. Never mind to that now if the numbers in the president ial race democratic nominee joe biden has charge and 64. 00 electoral votes leaving him just 6 short of the presidency donald trump has to conduit and teen by tim carney has a narrative the to the traditionally red state of georgia and hes also slightly ahead and nevada has just gone out in front and pennsylvania as well keep checking back it will always have a very late. The u. S. Has a history of complicated and heated president ial election so whats different this time is that the biggest political events of the last 4 years is happening amid the coronavirus been damaged the rest of them to love above civil unrest sparked by the death george floyd in the lives of the radical groups on both sides of the political spectrum. Where you live with breaking the city ordinance. Say. These groups attract barely a week members who have taken to the streets make intro tasks look like full scale what you see here was only a taste of whats about to. Visit demonstrators are sometimes heavily armed and they are not afraid of violence or law enforcement. If you will of war let it begin with us. Or go in to meet those groups and their leaders to find out how far theyre ready to go to fight for what they believe to steve for this country. When i won the white i want to go down with the white house. So i dont know how i dont think if the phone. Call top that come on a full 2. 00. 1000001. Sorry. 6. Hello welcome to so think of visionaries me Sophie Shevardnadze in times of uncertainty. Our moral compass and altruism is our way through but how to make sure that our good intentions are not to pave the road to hell i ask effective altruism evangelist professor of philosophy at Oxford University william mccaskill. William macaskill professor philosophy at Oxford University and the cofounder of the center of for effective altruism its really great to have you with us today welcome to our show was. Great to be here thank you for inviting me so all right so the movement here associated with is called a sect of altruism i mean the very notion of this active altruism makes me wonder can altruism bathe in affective or even harmful and in what cases yes i think suddenly. Very often is ineffective or even harmful so there are many attempts where people try and do some out of good but actually end up. Achieving very little or just achieving far less than they could have done so for example if so that im in the United States called scared straight takes juvenile delinquents and shows them around prisons in order to scare them out a life of crime but this has been studied many times over and actually it turns out that this program increases the rates of criminal activity among those teenagers in the years following the program so this is actually an example of an activity