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One us congressman has called for a hiroshima and nagasaki solution in gaza and ukraine. Desperate people with desperate ideas, the press ok in ukraine, im joined by my guess. In new york, we have garley nixon. He is a political analyst, and in athens we cross the dmitri las conos. He is a lawyer and freelance journalist i, gentleman cross type roles and effects. That means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate garley. Let me, let me go to you. Theres a lot going on right now. Id like to uh, you know, talk about tim walberg, congressman uh, saying in desperation, i would imagine who uh, what other state of mind are you, when you calling for a new king countries uh that, uh, your proxies are not doing well. I mean, this is, this is magical thinking. This is desperate thinking. And because people are thinking desperately, we can accept expect some desperate actions. I want to talk about the, the attack on the concert hall a little bit later. But, you know, i came over and hes not a really smart guy, but um, its dangerous and you know, the, the reality is we dont know. He may be an extremely intelligent person, but were not talking about intellect here. Were talking about a state of mind when a psychiatry is evaluating a persons mental capacity and mental state of mental health. One of the things they want to know is, what is your internal conversation . What does that voice inside your head saying . It can be extremely unhealthy. When i listen to the politicians in the United States, i think what im hearing is the internal voice of the us empire. People like tim walberg represent the dysfunctional thinking and the inability to comprehend reality regarding our so called adversary. So i think he represents a dysfunction in the, in the us, in part of it isnt about intellect or smart. Well whatsoever. Well, i, oh, okay. Irrespective of that dimitry, those are very dangerous words. I mean, that may be your internal conversation. Many is an elected representative of the Us Government, so it is worth, thats why i think its worth noting. Go ahead, dmitri, as well as a witness in here. So frankly, im no medical expert, but it looks to me as a late person like psychosis. This is tim walbert was a baptist pastor. He is attended apparently 3 event jo little schools. He felt himself as a christian. One can hardly think of a, a, a stretch. The threat of nuclear nuke in a civilian population that is more inimical to Court Christian values than this. And you have this man has no shame about calling himself the christian and bringing the entire religion frankly into disrepute. He aint no christian. Uh, and at the end of the day, the fact that you have people in positions of power in the United States who have such a perverted understanding of who they are. And what they represent is really something dr. Concern as all americans and non americans are like very deeply. Yeah, well, i mean the same thing with huge imagery. I mean its what weve heard a number of members of congress say in reference to a gods, a, kill them, kill them all. Weve heard that more than once and elected officials, carl and you want to jump and go ahead. Yeah. And then the other part of it is the, the lack of acceptance of reality. Because when he says new gaza, he also said in the ukraine. But, you know, in the ukraine conflict immediately by new king russian that doesnt take into a, you know, if that doesnt accept the reality that, that suicide, that what are you saying is, lets get the ukraine conflict over by exterminating all of mankind a so that just shows you how unrealistic these people are like, oh, well just new russia no possible way that they would retaliate with a new. Yeah, its absurd. Well, to meet that pre existing or i dont care about walberg. Okay. But it is indicative to me of some kind of change going on. Now we can figure out if its a chicken or a when we come to the terrorist attack here in moscow on, on march 22nd tier. But the rush is military activity in ukraine has an increase, particularly in targeting the energy stress. Sure. Not the sub stations like it was a year ago, but the, the generating capacity of ukraine, which will not be fixed for a very long time. The conflict will have to come to an end before you can repair that. Now obviously people that live in cities, large cities with no electricity, theyre going to have to move and you know, you know, the timing of this, like i said, i dont know if its a chicken or egg. Theres a lot of people with strong opinions, with few facts out there, but it does look like something has changed here. Now again, i dont know if its a reaction to the terrace intact your thoughts, dimitri. Well, at some point in reality, catches up with the illusion and were seeing this quite vividly in a new credit and the reactions on the west or, you know, anywhere from a silver assessment of the situation like or ben and hungry. And the recently elected slovakian leader to outright insanity like emmanuel mccall, who thinks that by sending 2000 some odd soldiers into ukraine and watching them be illiterate or within a matter of weeks if not day is the somehow going to change the balance of power. So at least we have in the west some voices of reason. And by the way, theyre the ones who in the mainstream are most marginalized and vilified over and over again. But at this stage its anybodys guess as to where this is going to go. Do you see people like, you know, tim walbert and by the way, i just want to say, you know, to go back to the point you were making earlier. The depravity in the United States is bi partisan, you know, steward selda with kept the remo vomit official who said that to be killed 4000 palestinian children. It aint enough. And of course the president too is making all of this depravity possible. Is a democrat and hes supported enthusiastically, even more so by republicans been by people like his own party. So the entire Political Class in United States at this stage, as it is the next, the central threat to command humanity from my perspective. But lets hope that the voices of reason of the west, because the review of the precious view will prevail in the end. Well, we certainly help. So, and i think its present company i, i usually dont do a collective pad on the back, but i think its appropriate right now. You know, carl, and according to the russian military, ministry of defense camp is lost more than 80000. 00 troops since january since january. And the crown was to send his own. I mean, what magical thinking world is he in garland . Well i, i think that again he, what he represents is the absurd thinking and the an inability to, to really address reality by the western leaders. What hes basically saying is something that would work for domestic politics. It would work for the elite ruling class that hes in, but on the actual battlefield, it would make no difference of it and get his data then to get his troops annihilated. So what were looking at is another example of western leaders who live in a narrative and politically based on a world what hes doing from the perspective of a narrative, from the perspective of a discussion it works. But in, as far as kinetic kinetic, were warfare, its absurd. But we see that he cant tell the difference while hes talking to other relates, thats whats going on here. Lets move to the, the a terrorist attack in moscow at the end of last month, dimitri. But it seems to me because we follow this very closely. Obviously this was a terrorist attack, but its not the 1st one thats been committed against russia. This come from ukraine. I mean, this seems to be an escalation of terror because we have more and more cases uh, from ukraine where, where uh, civilians are attacked in russia if they get in. Its in the target is obviously plainly civilian. I think that, you know, the Terrorists Attack on on moscow is an extension of that. I think that makes logical sense. Dimitri, yeah, lets, lets just focus here on what we know from the public record, and im going to rely on western sources. So nobody can question the whether the, the sources are biased or not. Amnesty international has documented the fact that the printing and regime used cluster munitions, izzy and, and also into a yes, of course. And we know from western human rights organizations that russian soldiers who have been captured early in the conflict were tortured shot in the knees. And lets talk for a moment about north street. Just initially, the reflexive reaction of western leads was a rush. It blew up its own pipeline, which was a preposterous theory on this space, especially because binding had only months earlier about to bring it into north stream and brushing bay that ukraine. But then the narrative gradually shifted after seymour versus investigative piece came out and he pointed the finger squarely department ministration. And now major media organizations in the west are saying that it was ukrainian elements did it all being without the knowledge of so lensky. So in effect, even western media organizations are choosing the ukranian regime or elements with ended up having committed this active environmental terrorism against the north street. Yep. Yep. And i mean treatment, if we go back a few weeks ago and i want a garland to address this as well, we have that really huge story. Come out of the New York Times about how the c i a m, i 6, it just completely redone. Are you creating intelligence . So this is the time when the art stream was blown up. So you can, you can have it both ways, you know youre, youre not, youre involved or youre not involved here in, in, in the or times. Theyve had better days. They didnt see the policy in their argument, dimitri, that is what you are suggesting is that there is likely to have been complicity for an Investor Intelligence agencies. I agree completely. Its so difficult to believe that the United States would give all of this military support and economic aid to israel without its, im sorry to ukraine without exacting a price. The price is we will control the conduct of this war. Theyre not doing this out of the generosity of their hearts. So i think the operating assumption should be that if the evidence points ukrainian involvement under does appear to be significant evidence of 40, i bought this is that some western Intelligence Agency or agencies were behind it. And this is perfectly consistent with their past behavior. I mean, lets look again at whats happening in guys a despite any rational definition of terrorism is state sponsored terrorism. And as the United States is making it possible, there is no limit to what the western governments are prepared to do to advance their project of global hegemony. So theyre perfectly capable of having help ukrainian resume or district this heinous attack and moscow. Oh, garland, particularly since theres a long history of islam, a son to mentally sledge hot is involved with the cleaning governments since 2014 after the co. And theres a long history of the jihad as being involved with the Us Government for, you know, a decades literally now. So when you look at it, as, as, as dimitry said, the 2 most prominent terrorist attacks. And then since the sort of the special military operation are number one, north stream, and immediately after the United States had no idea what happened. But they knew that they did not want an investigation. Thats the one thing they knew they couldnt possibly have an investigation on it. And now immediately after this with this happens, the us wasnt involved, but they know who did it. And they know who didnt do it. And they kind of predicted it just like the north street. Well, we think this could happen. It happens exactly like they said it would happen, but they, they know who did it, they know who didnt do it. But other than that, they have no, you know, we have to look at the end of the day. It just pretty sloppy stuff. Its hard to believe gentlemen. Im going to go to a hard break here. And after that hard break, well continue our discussion on your current stay with our team, the the, the hi, im accepted and im here to plan with you whatever you do. You do not watch my new show. Search like why watch something thats so different. Opinions that he wont get anywhere else. Welcome to please or do you have the state department c, i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. Choose your fax for you. Go ahead. Change and whatever you do. Dont want my show stay main street because im probably going to make you uncomfortable. My show is called stretching time, but again, its not. We dont want to watch it because it might just change the way and say welcome back across. Ok, were all things are considered. Im peter to about your mind you were discussing. You create the. Okay, its go back to dimitry in athens i. Garlands already mentioned in the 1st part of the program, but i want to go a little bit further here. So let me get this straight. Um, uh, a little after an hour after the attack on the concert hall, the us, it says that ukraine wasnt involved in it. Um, north stream, the biggest, the ecological disaster ever, and nobody knows how it happened. Its really quite remarkable. But dimitri, if you are an 86 year old woman with purple hair, with a walker, and you were a 150 miles around the anywhere close to the us capitol, they know who you are. How do you explain to all these inconsistencies, dimitri, the, uh, theyll make the intelligence or like the real estate, whatever narrative serves their demonic purposes. And you know, i want to Say Something about this isis a series in the last 6 months or so. This organization is claimed by the west is committed to huge terrorist attacks. One of course was moscow, and the other one was the rent. Where there was a bombing that killed over a 100 people. Now this organization is supposed to be an organization of muslim extremists. It seems to me that if you are a muslim extremist, theres nobody you should be angry or with right now. Then the United States and israel, who are obliterating a large muslim population, gaza, why his ice has decided this particular moment to turn its ras russians and the radians rather than a miracle. Or dmitri demetrius said differently. Why is isis or isis k or whatever . Buried wire. They fighting on behalf of the United States to present american is really goals. Is that what youre saying . Precisely. I mean thats a certainly the, the effect of what theyre doing. And we can only infer that thats what they are trying to do. I just spend, by the way, 3 days and by god speaking to people here who fought against viruses. Uh, you know, who actually put their lives on the line to fight against isis. And theyre all convinced that ice, this is a creation of United States because its activities in the right consistent. We served the United States agenda. So at a certain point in time, you say it is the most plausible inference. But somehow the United States or districts, the activities of this organization. Well, i often, garland going back to the terrorist attack here in moscow. I mean, so you, you got a 48 hour warning, a general warning, but thats as far as it went. I mean, if you were so quick to say, who did do it, then you must have had the other information before. And probably after having that kind of intel now its going to be in now gets on through. He said, she said, okay, we gave the russians the information, the russians that we got a general warning and there wasnt anything to go on. That will be argued until the end of time. Okay. But if you come out so quickly and say, you know who didnt do it, well, thats kind of suspect, isnt it . Oh, absolutely. You have a little bit too much information to not to be involved to know who did. Theres only one way to know who didnt do it, and that is, you have to know who did do it, or you have to have some kind of a, uh, a, uh, some kind of an alibi. But ukraine has a broad array of terrorist options. It and we see that in that they use this um, neo nazi, so called quads a Russian Group to attack the border. So theyve been using various options, internal security people in russia, etc. So it only makes sense that they would use another option in the same way that the United States use is ukraine. To hide, shall we say their fingerprint of the crime scene. They further then use isis k are some russian Neo Nazi Group to kind of put a little distance between themselves and ukraine and, and whoever does the front perpetrates the final act. Well, let me, lets change gears slightly. Dimitri, im a speaker of the house. Johnson said that hes going to present some kind of about spending bill. Were about to regarding ukraine. We dont know the amount we know if its going to be land land lease is going to be loans. We dont know, but it seems that they, they will end up on the floor of the congress here. Interesting to note here will the democrat save him because there is a number of republicans. They will not go along with it. And he could lose his position to speak, or this is going to be a very interesting game. But having a republican speaker of the house, giving abiding the victory in an election year. Interesting is very dangerous for the political future of the current speaker. We saw with the prior speaker this so that he suffered when he was seen to be to cooperative with the bug and ministrations agenda. But at the end of the day, whatever amount of money they cost, often throw at the these ones the regime. Theres absolutely no reason to believe that this is going to alter them. It took military reality on the ground. But one of the reasons many reasons thats true is ukraine is running out of men to do the fighting. They suffered catastrophic loss is on the battlefield. And secondly, any weapons that are going to be delivered will have to be produced once the money is in fact, authorized by congress. And by that time, you know, it may well be over the thing, which is a definitive sign of where this is all heading is it is a lensky after taking for 2 years, a maximum list approach to negotiating with russia, saying there must be a complete withdrawal from all 1991 territory of ukraine, vladimir, who he must be held accountable for the allegations against him from the decrepit icpc and so forth. All of a sudden hes making commitments to preserve the neutrality of you agree . Well, i would like to be treatment. It zelinski work to Say Something like that big, soften his position. He doesnt have to worry about russians. He has to worry about people around him. You know what i mean . Demetrius precise, precisely to the extreme is, will probably not tolerate any kind of a concession to russia. So, you know, as lensky is in a world of paint. And i think uh, you know, 11 thing we can say with confidence is as days as leader of ukraine, our number. Okay, 8. Okay, darling. According to press reports here about politically, from prison and putting himself in those who were involved in the a terrorist attack, no matter where they are, whatever position they hold, they will be held accountable. Well, you know, you have the doesnt take a big leap of logic that um, if you creating and officials were involved in that, then theyre on a list of sorts. Garland, well i, i think i dont expect president prudent to take any action that would endanger the russian people, you know, such as attacking the United States to the oh no, no, no, no, what im talking about. Im talking about the ukranian, italy. Im talking about the crate. Exactly. Yes. I suspect that what would happen at this point is theyre going to say, look, at some point were going to win this conflict. And when we do, there will be trials. People will be held accountable, and these will be charges that will be put forth. I would suspect that what the russians will do is submit a certain amount of evidence to the international community. Maybe even go to the you in the, in the International Criminal court or something at present at present their case. But i think what theyll be saying is, when this thing is over, theres going to be some trial and were going to eventually, youre putting us in a position where were going to have to take this country. And were going to hold people accountable in some sort of trials, the nuremberg style style trials for these people. I think thats the most likely thing that will be playing well. And i say, sir, uh, also garland. I really hope that all of the atrocities committed against the people of the don bass 8 years before this part of the complex are i hope theyre not held accountable to you. You know, it didnt dimitry. Its very interesting in the 3 of us and our viewers have been watching this conflict very closely since 2014. Let me repeat that, 2014. But the west is so afraid of peace. Why . Well, lets distinguish between the peoples of the west and so those who uh, i think that there is broad based support and always has been accepting perhaps moments of patriotic insanity like in the aftermath of 911 for peace. People generally do not want war. And all the horrors that that brings upon them. But unfortunately, through our re electoral system, not just the United States. Now its in virtually every culture in the west. We suffer from rigged elections and you end up with people in power. Were much more concerned about maintaining their own privilege in wells that india gemini, rather than serving the interest of their suppose the constituents and this is know the situation that we in the west sadly, must contend with. We want peace by and large at the level of ordinary citizens. Our leaders want nothing but, you know, girl and i dont know if its still on track of go cuz Benjamin Netanyahu had a minor surgery over the weekend. But i think hes still on, on the list to address congress here. I have this idea that once hes in the house of congress, then they should lock the doors interest. Everybody in the room. What do you think for . Well, water rises. Yeah, absolutely. Because what were looking at is, you know, was the systemic system of war crimes. You know, i think that the, uh, whats happening in ukraine and the conflict and guys are inexplicably linked in that the end of the United States has created these twin monsters. And these frankenstein monsters as have been said, and now the United States is, is paying the price. But whats going on here . In reality, if we get down to it is desperation. The ruin usually in the United States, since 2008 have come to the reality. You know, have a, are coming to grips with the reality that their system is decadent. Their system is flawed and self centered and it doesnt work for the masses. And that things are falling apart, theyre losing their power. And so now theyre desperately trying to everything. They tend to suppress the other rising world powers who are doing it right, more industrialized, were actually delivering for the people in their country as is represented by the election in russia. And the polls that show that over 90 percent of the Chinese People support their government and theyre in desperation just simply trying to, you know, do a Tonya Harding apply to the needs of their adversaries rather than try to improve their decadent uh, pricing system. So that they can survive. Yeah, dimitry, the rules based daughter came to an end of shortly after it was introduced here, blinking the secretarys state. I call them the undertaker and thats his favorite phrase. But its true. I mean, look at him, he looks really dour. I mean, all the blood is out of as a vase. Okay. You. He always looks down when he talks, which means hes lying. Okay. And his rules base order is dyed with him. Dimitry. Yeah. And we still havent figured out what it means. Yeah. I yeah. Ive never figured out what it meant, eventually into the deal. Im like, my best interpretation of it and im just having to draw inferences here. Is that the rules apply to you, but they dont apply your whats a thats basically the rules will work to make for you. Also, it is an alternative to international lots a slight of hand. We rule space order versus international law. Thats what they want, but theyll never say it that way. Absolutely. And, and in the rules, this is their, their, their, their conception, the rules are based upon the false premise that western leads are superior to governments of the non western world. If ever we had the evidence that the converse is true, that the best governments to take are to be found in the non western world. Rather than in the western world. We havent, we havent, by looking at how, you know, the russian economy is performing much better than the Major Economies of the west. And you have it in terms of the, in ne, incredible achievement of the Chinese Government of lifting hundreds of millions of chinese out of poverty. And the garland mentioned, the levels of support in china for the sake youre absolutely right. Theyre fighting for their privilege and their power, and we can see through with them gentlemen, thats all the time we have a one to take my guess in new york and in athens. And of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t. So you next time, remember prospect rules the the the in 1941 with the nazis health relation, ultram nationalist, the use dashes, the claim, the independent state of croatia. Shortly on the seizing power. They built the scene of us concentration camp a Place Associated with the worst atrocities committed in yugoslavia during world war 2. 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