Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20240714

Fewer. Welcome to the thursday, september 19th meeting of the government audits and oversight. Im joined by supervisor valerie brown. Supervisor peskin was unable to join us. Thank you to supervisor sandra fewer for joining us. And thank you to this committees clerk, john carroll, and i would also like to thank maya and hernenda at s. F. Gov. Agenda items acted upon today will appear on the october 1st, 2019 board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. Chairman thank you, mr. Clerk. Please call item one. Number one is the followup hearing on the 2017 to 2018 grand jury report entitled mitigating the dwelling and modular housing. Chairman as a recommendation from this report, we have not yet reached final status, i thought it valuable for us to finalize these outstanding responses before addressing the new report. There are two recommendations from the civil grand jury report on accessory dwelling units in modular that we can now give final status to. Recommendation two, they amendment ordinances to wage or reduce a. D. U. Permit fees with the understanding that reduced departmental revenues would be made up from the citys general fund. Recommendation three recommends that the board of supervisors structure fees separately for a. D. U. S in Single Family residences and in multiple unit buildings, specifically designed to ease the permitting cost for singlefamily homeowners. When these recommendations were last before this committee, it determined further analysis was required to respond. We have since taken action and have good news to share with the civil grand jury. Both of these recommendations have been implemented through the adoption of an ordinance waiving permit fees for a. D. U. S, applied to singlefamily homes and limited to certain multipleunit buildings. Ive distributed copies of the ordinance that addressed these recommendations. Before you go to Public Comment, do my colleagues have anything to add . Thank you, chair mar. Weve had extensive conversations in committee including how this pilot might be limited to exclude corporate pral co corporate landlords. We have very little land that is zoned for singlefamily homes. Just 3. 5 of my district, direct 5, is zoned for singlefamily homes. So over 50 of the land in district pfifdistrict 5 have twr three units. We set the bar a little higher, and i appreciate chair mar for working on that with me, for the small landlords to be put a. D. U. S in for units four and below. I just want to say that this legislation allows one a. D. U. On a property with four or less existing dwelling units, but a limited number with a building including five or more dwelling units or undergoing seismic retrofitting, but without that assistance from the city if it is a larger landlord. So im really happy that we were able to work on this together and bring forward, i think, a really sensible piece of legislation and one that really is a pilot, but it is one that were going to look at to see if people are more motivated to actually put in a. D. U. S, because i think that could really address our housing crisis. Chairman thank you, supervisor brown. Are there any members of the public who wish to testify on this item . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Colleagues, i move that we direct the clerk of the board to update the board responses to this report as follows that the board of supervisors reports that recommendations number r2 and r3 have been implemented through the adoption of an ordinance on file with the clerk of the board of supervisors in file number 190214. Can we file this hearing without objection . Mr. Chair, as youve directed now from that motion, this motion will transform im sorry, this hearing will now transform into the motions that updates the presiding judge on the findings and recommendations that youve directed, and then i will pass that motion on to the board of supervisors for consideration on october 1st. Thank you for that clarification. So can we file this without objection . Great. Mr. Clerk, please call items two and three together. Agenda item number two is a hearing on the recently published 2018 2019 civil grand jury report entitled act now before it is too late, ag aggressively expand our howpowered water system. Item three is a resolution by the court on the findings and recommendations contained in the report, and urging the mayor to apply the recommendations. Chairman thank you, mr. Clerk. We have some presentations on this item, but id like to first welcome up rashay harvey, who is the foreperson of the 2018, 2019 civil grand jury. Sorry, if you could hold on a second. Supervisor fewer had some remarks. Thank you, chair mar. The issue of Emergency Water supply in San Francisco neighborhoods is something that is very important to me as the supervisor of district 1. I represent the richmond district, where there are thousands of homes, wooden, and built very close together, that will be vulnerable to fire in case of a major earthquake or other disaster. Between the richmond and the sensesic, were talking about 42,000 structures not currently covered by a highpressure Emergency Water system. While most of central San Francisco has been equipped with auxiliary water system, the Western District and neighborhoods have had not the same access to highpressure Water Systems in the case of a catastrophe. In the almost three years i have been on th on the board, this is o one of my top priorities, making sure we are building a robust highpressured water system. Also for the past three years, San Francisco Public Utilities commission and the San Francisco Fire Department has collectively analyzed various options for implementing an emergency firefighting water system on the west side of San Francisco, and developed a proposal for an e. F. W. S. For the west side that incorporates stake holder feedback. The proposal includes a portable e. F. W. S. That will bring a robust and resilient highpressured firefighting system to the western neighborhoods of San Francisco, while providing a seismicly resilient pipeline that is able to provide Drinking Water during nonfire situations. Im so appreciative of the work done by the Fire Department and the s. F. C. , that takes into account many of the concerns raised throughout this process. And i want to say how appreciative we are of the silver grancivil grand jury. The work of the civil grand jury is helping to ensure that as a city, this is priority. I will not be able to stay for the whole hearing, but i appreciate chair mar for allowing me to sit in. Chairman i just wanted to thank you for all of your leadership on the important issues around theau auxiliary water supply system since i stepped into my role. It has become a high priority for me and my constituents as well, given the fact that the entire sunset district is currently unprotected and vulnerable in the case of a major earthquake and major fire as a result of an earthquake. I wanted to thank the civil grand jury for choosing this issue and bring elevating this issue and coming up with such strong recommendations. Mr. Harvey . Good morning, everyone. Im rashay harvey, and im the foreperson on the 2018 2019 civil grand jury. I would like to thank the supervisors for calling this hearing on three out of four of our reports. So we have one more report scheduled for another hearing. And i would like to thank the Committee Clerk and the legislative aide for helping us schedule this hearing. Before i get into my brief remarks today, i do want to acknowledge and thank my civil grand jury team. So if youre in the audience, could you please stand. [applause] i would also like to thank city leaders, community members, and experts who provided insights into our investigation topics. So the goal of the 2018 2018 2012019 report is to guide city leadership towards an accountable and problem solving government. We wanted to make sure we wrote reports on topics that are impactful for every single san franciscan, no matter where you live. We want you to think of our reports as being about one city. And one major accomplishment i also want to note, and we couldnt really put this in the report, but our investigative committees and investigative report committees, three out of four of those committees were led by women. Thats a huge accomplishment for the civil grand jury. I dont think that has every happened before. So plaus fo applause for that. [applause] today youll hear about key findings and recommendations from three out of four of our reports. The first report is act now before it is too late, aggressively expand our highpressure emergency firefighting water system. This calls to the gaps in the event of an earthquake, for richmond, engelside, among others. We called for the city to fix our fire infrastructure. It is very, very important. Over 300,000 sa san franciscans can be exposed in the event of an earthquake. The second report is for increasing public accountable chairman mr. Harvey, through the chair, were just hearing about this report. If you have further comments for the future agenda items no worries. I just wanted to give every an overview. Were just thankful for having this hearing today, and i look forward to your responses. Im going to turn it over to Steven Garver who is going to present on a. W. S. S. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Harvey. Good morning, supervisor mar, supervisor brown, and supervisor fewer. Thank you for scheduling this hearing. I would also like my name is Steven Garver, and im chair i guess im the one male who is chair of a committee. Im chair of the committee that dealt with this issue. I would thank my fellow Committee Members who worked very hard on this issue. I would like to thank the s. F. B. U. C. And Capital Planning and the Fire Department. All three were very cooperative, very responsive and very professional in our interactions, and we greatly appreciated their assistance in our report. Now, the topic is water supply for firefighting after an earthquake. And as i say, a picture is worth a thousand words. And you all, i think, have something for the tv and you all have this new report, which shows a large chunk of the city, the northeast quadrant, with a very thorough blue lines showing the firefighting water supply system. And large swaths of the city that dont have it. As finding fact four said, the citys highpressure water supply system, known as awss, does not cover large parts of the district. One, four, seven, and 11, roughly onethird ofhe citys developed area. As a result. These districts are not adequately protected from fires after a major earthquake. I want to repeat, those areas, those large parts of those four districts are not adequately protected from fires after a major earthquake. That was the finding of the civil grand jury. In fact, the city agencies that have responded agreed with that finding. We know a major earthquake is coming. We dont know whether it will be today, tomorrow, or in 30years, but we know one is coming. And to have large areas of the city not adequately protect san diegprotected is si. The city has known about it for years. Were not criticizing anybody in the past, but the question is how quickly can we act and what can we do now. There is a great deal of planning and effort by the p. U. C. , Capital Planning, and the Fire Department, about what goes next. What is next is the 2020 easter bond, which will be phase one for the west side system. But there is no firm timeline and no firm Funding Source for phase two of the west side system or for the southern parts of the city. Our finding of fact six said, unless the city increases funding levels, it will be several decades, i. E. , after the uscs predicts one or more major earthquake will occur, before the southern parts of the city of a highpressure, multisourced emergency firefighting water supply. The Mayors Office and various agencies have disagreed with that, saying there havent been firm funding decisions made, and when you go 10, 20 years out, nobody knows. While that may be true, we took our finding, and its cited in our report on page 33, footnote 126, but that language came from an emergency firefighting water system Management Oversight Committee presentation of march 4, 2019, where it said on page 32 buildout would take approximately 35 years using current funding rate, assuming a fiveyear building cycle. It is clear from the grand jurys report, the civil grand jury feels that 35 years to adequately protect large parts of the city is simply unacceptable and too long. And so we have recommended that the experts were not the experts weve recommended that the experts, the p. U. C. And the Fire Department get toog witgettogether with Capital Planning and come up with a plan, with Funding Sources, that will adequately protect all parts of the city within the next 15 years. There is no magic to 15years, but we know a big one is coming at some point. 72 of a 7. 0 within the next 30 years, clearly something needs to be done. And the board itself has a major role to play in the fund and the pace of this type of activity. The last point id like to raise is concerns portable water supply hose tenders. Those are portable devices, and the Fire Department can certainly explain it better than i can, which can move water substantial distances to help create a wall of water to protect against the spread of fire. Our current inventory is outdated. Beyond its useful life, according to the Fire Department. And since 2010, at least, the San Francisco Fire Commission has asked for more units. And the 2010 cap report wanted more portable units, but they havent been replaced. The Fire Department has asked for 20. We understand from the Mayors Office, there is funding for five. The grand jury recommends 20. Theyre relatively inexpensive and a cheap resource. With that, i thank you for your time and your consideration of our report. And were ready to answer any questions. Thank you. Chairman than thank you so much, mr. Garver for your presentation and all of your work on this important issue. I would like to invite john scarpola who is going to present to us the departments responses to the civil grand jurys findings and recommendations. Good morning supervisors, john scarpola, be im just bringing up a power point here. All right. I think it is up now. Thank you to the su supervisors. Im from the p. U. C. , and im joined by members the San Francisco Fire Department, and members of the office of resilience and Capital Planning. Were all here to answer questions as needed. I would like to start by thanking chair mar for calling this important hearing, and also thank the members of the civil grand jury. It was a pleasure working with them over the past year. We found them to be open and fair and asked intelligent questions, so really thank you for taking the time to study this important topic. Okay, jumping in, i just want to frame it for everybody. The emergency firefighting water system, sometimes referred to as the awss, and so were going to use that, and it resonates more with folks. It is a highpressure Fire Suppression water system built after the 1906 earthquake. Ownership of this system transferred to s. F. P. In 2010. The Fire Department is the end user of this system. Therefore system improvements and expansion must be approved by the Fire Department, the Public Utilities commission, and public works. Public works visit been providing management for this system ins it since its inception. We understand what is happening in the system in terms of water, in terms of all of the decisions that we make. This is a map of the original emergency firefighting water system. I want to walk everyone through it. A couple of things to note, as mr. Garver pointed out, when it was originally built, the majority of the city resided in the northeast sector of the city. You can see there is a pretty Broad Network of pipes there. Thats where the city existed after the 1906 earthquake. In terps o terms of the water sources that feed into the system, the primary water sources come from the three yellow squares youll see in front of you. The twin peaks reservoir, the ashbury tank and the jones street tank. Those three reservoirs are served by the hechechi water system, and it was called the water system improvement program, and ensure the mains that come into the city and feed these reservoirs. The level of service for that program was a 7. 8 earthquake. It was a key, key level of service that our Commission Held us to for our projects. The secondary sources of water that this system uses are two cwater pump stations. The first is located at the Fire Department headquarters, you can see it labelled as pump station number one. Its a 10,000 gallon a minute pump that can draw in bay water and push it into the system. The second station, pump station number two, at the foot of van nuys, is a second 10,000 a gallon pump station that draw in bay water and use it for firefighting purposes. Those are the water sources for the system. So since 2010, it has been a partnership between the p. U. C. , the Fire Department, and public works. What the three agencies did in 2010 was we undertook an evaluation of the system. We used modern seismic analysis, looking for vulnerabilities in the existing system. This led to immediate and future projects. One of the key findings was that we found that the system the existing system was only 47 reliable in terms of providing the median water flow, thats the median water flow needed by the Fire Department to fight fires after a 7. 0 earthquake. We did all of the simulations that triggered fires, and we found that the e. F. W. S. Could only provide about 40 of the water needed by the Fire Department. One of the main areas that needed to be worked onmeterly, ionimmediately aboute primary water sources i discussed and the secondary water sources i discussed. And we saw if we expanded the system without shoring up the existing system, it would actually negatively impact the existing system. So we couldnt just start expanding the system without shoring up the system we had. We immediately got to work with projects approved by the e. F. W. S. , and we did so using the 102 million from the 2010 easer bond. The reliability upgrades at the three reservoirs, which are fed by the hechechi Regional Water system. And we replaced the engines and installed remote capabilities at the Fire Department headquarters. We installed 30 new systems, 15of which are on the west side. We and we completed six pipeline and tunnel projects. We also have key projects that are under way, both design and in construction. Were working on the second pump station, doing seismic reliability at that station. We also are working on a 19th avenue pipeline with bidding go out in early 2020, and we have the ashbury pipeline, and the irving street pipelin pipeline we upped the pipes there. And weve already completed one phase of the Terry Francois pipeline with phase 2 goes out for bid shortly. In addition to the Capital Projects that i just listed off, the Fire Department, p. U. C. , negotiate with Large Development projects, projects to include e. F. W. S. Pipelines within their Development Projects and actually outside of them, in the neighborhoods that are near their projects. All of the projects i have listed here are putting pipelines in their project area and also on the outside. This benefits the neighboring neighbors and residents. Additionally, youll see a lot of these are in district 10. And so district 10 is undergoing such a large transformation due to these projects, we reen reengaged the professor that helps us determine those fires that could break out after a 7. 8 earthquake, and he is redoing his entire model based on all of these Development Projects, which is really helpful, so we can better understand how in the future where we need to provide water sources in d10. This allows us to then plan better Capital Projects to feed into that area. Additionally, the p. U. C. Continues to develop and analyze a list of potential projects. We have a list of over 40 potential projects that we continue to analyze. The preliminary projects range in scope from pipelines to new water sources to infirm areas, where there is existing pipes where were concerned about their Structural Integrity due to monday of the bay fill. Movement of the bay fill. Those are districts 1, 4, 7, 11, and 10 as well. One of the big projects that supervisor fewer alluded to, which weve been working on with her for three years in the community, is the potential westside portable, e. F. W. S. Were very excited about it. I dont want to get two deep into the details, but this robusttom robust system has four water sources, one billion gallons from lake mersed, and we attach into the water line that would feed into the southern part of the sunset district. And go all the way up through the area. That pump station at lake merced is 30,000 gallons, three times larger than the pump stations on the east side. And were analyzing a pump station close to the Sunset Reservoir area, and a seismicly resilient 54inch transmission link. Thats 60 tha 60,000 gallons a minute that can feed into this area. The pipe that we use is the same technologies and the same system used and japan. They have very similar seismic challenges that San Francisco has and have been through some big earthquakes. Theyve been implementing this system since 1970, and it has never failed in an earthquake, including the 9. 9. 1 earthquake in 2011. One of the benefits of this system, as supervisor fewer alluded to, is during the fire after an earthquake, the system pumps up with pressure, it is used for firefighting. After the fires are put out, we can drop the pressure, flush the lines, and even if there are numerous breaks to the Domestic Water system, the water system that most folks get their water from, this system will be able to provide Drinking Water to the en9ie westside. Thats a major benefit. And it does not negatively impact the systems ability to fight fires, especially after an earthquake. Were very excited about this system and look forward to continuing to develop in and analyst. I want to talk about maintenance. When the system came over to the e. F. S. W. , we completed hundreds of routine Maintenance Tax on pipelines, valves, the pump stations, with approximately plumbers on call. The expertise of the Fire Department and the engineers providing guidance. The city has the resources it needs to complete vital maintenance tasks to keep the system functioning. Once we were assigned maintenance in 2010, the p. U. C. Implied the same leaks inspection as we use for the hechechi water system. It is really what we do. Id like to provide just one data point illustrating one of the outcomes of this maintenance program. Due to our maintenance activities since 2010, we have significantly reduced the amount of water leakage. In fact, weve reduced leaks by over 700,000 gallons a day from this system. That saves about 250 million gallons of water a year. Not only does it save water, but it also benefits the Fire Department. Because if you have a system that is leaking, they dont get the pressure and the flows they need. So as we reduce that leakage, theyre better able to receive the water at the flow rate that is needed to fight fires. So were very proud of that. What we need to do better is document it and notate it. One of the recommendations of the civil grand jury, which we have already undertaken, we thought it was such an important recommendation, is to apply best practices in collaboration with the Fire Department and to department fi alidentify all ofs valves. We identified all of the valves and created a critical valve access, which will exercise these valves every year. So we took the recommendation seriously and implemented it. So moving forward, our three agencies will continue to implement e. F. W. S. Projects, using the remaining ether bonds. We lo will continue to perform routine maintenance to ensure the e. F. W. S. Is in good working yortd. Order. That is ongoing. There are four in the city budget and one from the state, representative king helped with that. So that is fantastic as well. We will continue to conduct regular Emergency Response trainings with all applicable city agencies, while working collaboratively to enhance the scope and training of the agencies. That is something we took to heart. And we can me memorialize this, and we need to memorialize it in the e. M. U. , on how the p. U. C. And the Fire Department operates the e. F. W. S. We agree with that recommendation. Were always going to complete a sea water pump station study. It is important for us to look at that source of water and see how we can use it in the future. We will complete that study as recommended by the civil grand jury, on the timing of june 30th, 2021. The p. U. C. Will continue its efforts to complete more detail analysis on the emergency firefighting and water needs in the neighborhoods. Right now our great project team, led by dave morrison, is focusing in on neighborhoods and taking a refined look into neighborhoods to not look at a large scale, but we can dive deeper into neighborhoods to understand where we need to put pipes, and what types of fires we expect to break out. This is not a house by house or block by block analysis, but but we were able to zoom in to better understand where water is needed. We will complete that Detailed Analysis as recommended by the civil grand jury on the timeline of june 30th, 2021. And we will develop a robust plan to make sure that the city is able to fight all fires. We are recommending that it happens by december 31st of 2021 for three reasons. First, to align it with the capital plan that will be from 2021, in the spring. Thats where a lot of the funding is analyzed. So that will happen. Number two is, the two previous studies i talked about, the sea water pump station and the Detailed Analysis, will directly impact that plan. If we find from the pump station that we need to implement a pump station in a given location, that changes the plan. And we should take the six months after we understand the sea water pump study to change what types of projects we view and where were putting them. It would be premature to bring a plan to you all without completing those studies. Thats why we want six months after the studies are completed to come to you with the plan. One thing we want to point out is we dont want to just come back to you all on december 31st, 2021, and say this century first time that the public or the board of supervisors or members of the Business Community are seeing the plan. We realize one of the things we should do better is engage the community and engage our important shakeholders, sore were going to dso weregoing to do t. In fact, members of the public can join the water committee. They are literally allowed to join the water subcommicommittee and help guide us along. D10, d11, the supervisors who werent here, we want to go out into those neighborhoods and make a concerted effort to do so. And we would love to come back to the board and keep you updated. We need to do a better job of that and were committed to doing so. I want to talk about the e. F. W. S. And the capital plan before i close. Ill pull up my notes here. Funding sources appear in the citys capital plan. The capital plan collects known needs and sources for infrastructure and Facility Needs in the capital portfolio in a 10year window. The capital plan is an important part of our citys sound business manage. Ment. Management. It was last approved at the board this last spring. So every other year would be 2021 spring. Eser is our citys First Responder bond program, and there have been two passed, and the third is planned for march of 2020. With it, city wide improvements, eser bonds have been very popular with the voters. During the capital plan update last year, with the leadership of supervisor fewer and the clap tiff effortblabcollaborative effortsf the Fire Department the funding for eser 2020 triples, on top of expected funding from p. U. C. As well. So the p. U. C. Has committed funds, which is up here as well. That amount will help the programs capacity to contribute work so we can work straight through to the next eser bond. The next plan will be submitted to the board no later than march 1st of 2021 for approval and may 1st of 2021. With that, my colleagues will be happy to answer any questions. Chairman thank you so much for your presentation and all of your work on this. I want to note we have other departmental representatives who are available to answer questions for this committee, including from the Fire Department, chief nicholson, and the deputy chief, and heather green, who is our Capital Planning director. Colleagues, do you have any questions . Supervisor fewer . Yes. So, mr. Scapola, can you please outline in our 2020 eser bond how what we intend to how that fits into our longrange plan to have this robust system on the west side . Are you looking at this incrementally through a Funding Source . And do we know that the next eser bond is in 2024 is that right . My colleague, heather. Heater green heather green of captain planning. The next eser bond is 2027. The finding i funding in the cut eser bond is enough to get us through the next seven years. When were gearing up for these eser bonds, do you pr see that e. F. S. E. F. S e. A priority . I hope it stays a priority. Thanks for the tremendous work of the civil grand jury and our department leaders. From our perspective in the Capital Planning office, we understand that this is an important need and we dont expect it to become a less important need over the next seven years. We want the city to be holistically covered. We understand that all of our san franciscans deserve to have strong emergency protections in their firefighting system. We look forward to continuing to find funds to support construction for the e. F. W. S. In years to come in future bonds. I really want to thank you, supervisor fewer, and your colleagues, for communicating the importance of this to you, to your citizens. That helps us to make decisions. Recommendations, rather, for your decisions. We really appreciate the clarity of your leadership, and all across this floor were hearing that everybody cares about the basis of our system and our public safety. We hear that and we can continue to prioritize it as long as that voice remains clear. Thank you very much. I must say that i didnt know much about it until i had coffee with tom dutiay, who also worked for the firefight for a lifetime. And once i got educated on it, quite frankly, i freaked out a little bit, considering that my neighborhood has all these Wood Structures and theyre so old. But i really want to thank also p. C. And harvey kelly for stepping up to the plate and meeting with us. And hearing every time i push back, and every time actually, tom and i sort of push back together on plans, i want to say that i dont think we would be here on the 2020 eser bond if we hadnt had so much input also from people who are knowledgeable about this, also, as residents, and a desire to keep the west side in sync with what is happening with the downtown. It looked like a spiders web, and i looked at the infrastructure, and i thought, oh, my goodness, but a robust water system is so important, considering our future and also our faj. Thanfuture. And i deep gratitudeo the civil grand jury who are volunteers and concerned citizens. Thank you, supervisor fewer. I did have a few questions. But i just wanted to start by saying, you know, that i was really pleased to see that the departments responses were mostly in agreement in strong agreement with the civil grand jurys findings and recommendations. And, yeah, so think thats encouraging. For recommendation number one, which is kind of the bigger overarching recommendation of having the city develop and present a detailed plan to really have comprehensive coverage for all neighborhoods by this important emergency firefighting water supply system, there was a minor, i understand, sort of timing that the departments didnt fully agree with the deadline that the civil grand jury had of december 31st, 2020. And mr. Scarpola, in your presentation, you explained that departments are recommending pushing that back one year to december 31st, 2021. And i was wondering if you could just sort of explain that extra year, and, also, just to say for myself and everyone who particularly lives in the neighborhoods that are currently unprotected and vulnerable, delaying a year on this is something that makes us uncomfortable. Sure. John scarpola, s. F. P. U. C. , and the reason were suggesting to push back one year is threefold. The first, to align with the spring of 2021 Capital Planning, which will really help discuss the financing mechanisms. One of the requests of the the civil grand jury was that plan not just be capitalplan based and hydraulicbased, but it had this financial layer. So we should line it with the capital Plan Development in the spring of 2021. Thats the finance piece. On the more firefighting engineering water piece, two of the recommendations of the civil grand jury, one of which was complete a sea water pump station study by june 30th, 2021. And other was to complete a more neighborhoodfocused, more refined look at the firefighting water needs throughout the city by neighborhood, and complete that by june 30th, 2021. Those are two important studies that should impact the plan that is developed. If those are due june 30th, 2021, we think we should finalize our plan and present it to the board after we have taken the findings from that studies. Doing so before would be premature, to present it before we completed that analysis. What we can do, which i hope is a middle ground for the board and the community, we are happy to come in and talk preliminary plans with everybody, and to go out and have the quarterly meetings, and members of the public can join the water subcommittee, and also go into the neighborhoods. So if the outer sunset association wants to get an update on the plan, we would be happy to go out and talk to them. We could Schedule Community meetings at the timeframe when we would have been presenting the final plans of the board and give them updates. It would premature without having the engineering side completed. Chairman thank you. I had a followup question. It does seem like the financing, and how were going to pay for this, the complete buildout, to cover all neighborhoods, is a big question. Recommendation number eight from the civil grand jury was basically recommending that the mayor and the board of supervisors analyze whether there should be there could be a separate bond to pay for this rather than just putting it into the eser bond. So can you just explain what the response is to that . Headeheather green, Capital Planning. That analysis and others like it, where we consider these mega needs that San Francisco faces, is part of our regular Capital Planning process. Were happy to do exactly that and consider it as part of the capital plan. And then, you know, whether it makes the best strategic sense for e. F. W. S. Two stand alone or to continue to be folded into eser, we can make that decision as the capital plan is renewed. Chairman great, thank you. One final question to mr. Scarpola were a team. Chairman i was wondering whether there is a range if we have a projection of how much it is really going to cost to pulled out the system, or a range. I know it is not clear right now what the actual specifics is going to be, but is there a range of an amount . What i think i feel comfortable with is i had a slide that talked about the 40 plus conceptual projects we started to develop. Our pipeline, water sources projects, those projects are estimated, not including the west side project, and those projects are estimated to be over 500 million. So the range will be 500 million plus. Thats at the level i feel comfortable at this point. So it is a big investment. But it could be more. Chairman thank you. Pliew[please stand by] i would challenge both departments assertions about the tenyear capital plan. Between november 2018 and january 2019 major reinvestigations to the tenyear capital plan, based on directives from the mayor. Deputy chief San Francisco Fire Department retired. The civil grand jury has provided the City Government with an invaluable document, which if endorsed by the board of supervisors, will direct our various city agencies to expand the water supply system of High Pressure hydrants in a manner to protect the 15 neighborhoods, woodframe structures and 390,000 residents, who despite having paid the same tax rate as the rest of the city for years, have never had the same level of protection that their fellow citizens in the older neighborhoods have had. The two overriding messages that the civil grand jury has given us are, one, in order to avoid repeating the massive destruction by firestorms, that San Francisco suffered in 19 to 6, the awss must be expanded into every city neighborhood. Two, the time to do this is now. Because the opposing motions of the north american and pacific tectonic plates, which intersect 200 yards off the beach are not inhibited by the priorities of the Capital Planning committee, nor the Public Utilities commission, which apparently would be glad to continue to let this issue go unresolved on a citywide basis for many additional decades to come. Yes, it will be expensive. When you consider if half of the city is destroyed by firestorms, how expensive will that be in terms of lost tax revenue. [bell ringing] we seem to be able to find 1. 7 billion in counting to construct a subway tunnel from south of market to chinatown. And the president of the board, according to the examiner last week, suggested that we need to build more such subway tunnels. What goodwill the subway tunnels do if half the city is destroyed by fire. What goodwill any Civic Project do if we cant put out the fires. Thank you. Thank you. [bell ringing] nancy werfel. Clerk members of the click here public here for Public Comment, please line up. You do not need to wait for your name to be called in order to come up. Good morning. Im nancy werfell. First, i wish to offer my deep gratitude to the civil grand jury, who made comprehensively documented one of the three most dire needs to the future of San Francisco, with recommendations to mitigate this disaster. Fires following an earthquake, Sea Level Rise and Global Climate change are the natural events that endanger our city the most. The reports act before its too late, unquote, and says it best about the fire dangers that our city decision make railroads not preparing for. They need to make the extension of the independent auxiliary Water Systems citywide, with ak cities to unlimited, nonpotable water as the citys top priority, for action funding. The idea of limiting water stored in the city reservoirs does not recognize the 7. 8 magnitude earthquake will cause. Not to mention the loss of locally stored water for human uses, needed immediately after the seismic event. The idea of amending our unique Fire Protection with two separate pipelines, one with limited Domestic Water and one with unlimited seawater, illogical and ignores the Lessons Learned from the 1906 fires. Today this committee can vote to save the city by accepting all of the jurys recommendations without qualifications or you can perpetuate the status quo of ignoring the full dimension of the tragedy we face, which kicking the can down down the rs we allow our bureaucrat processes to put off making the moral and financial commitment required or to make commitments to be in competition with other lesserimportant needs. Please act to support the civil grand jurys report. Thank you. Supervisor mar thank you. Next speaker, please. Good morning. My name is dick noaaton. The usgs haywire Network Scenario forecasted a 7. 0 earthquake on the hayward fault, with significant damage sweeping across the bay to San Francisco. The scenario indicates that there will be inadequate firefighting water. 30 years after loma, were still living on borrowed time and 15 nonawass system neighborhoods. Citywide expansion is critical now. I dont know. Heres a map showing in red the nonawass neighborhoods. We have to be aware also that if something occurs, the 100 probable fires, that awss neighborhoods will also be in jeopardy, because the Fire Department will be overwhelmed with resources. So awss citywide is the only way to correct this problem. The loma crater marina fire demonstrated the value of awss assets, which include modern terrain activities. [bell ringing] i encourage you to increase the firefighting system, that next year, the funds are available, the mayor had 522 million new dollars in her budget. So i urge you to do that. Pgh [bell dings] pgh thank you. Next speaker, please. Im a member of the c. A. C. Of the p. U. C. And im on the water committee. I am greatly concerned about this issue, as being knowledgeable of the results of earthquakes in 1906 and 1989 in San Francisco. This is the most pressing problem that we face, as a city. I would wholly endorse the comments that have already been made, but let me add that time is of the essence. You know, i look at this project and think that this is relatively small, compared to the water rebuild system that the p. U. C. Has pretty much completed at this point. That happened in roughly 17 years, at max. You know, the United States sent a man to the moon in ten years, upon the leadership of jack kennedy. Building this system doesnt cost that much. And it needs to be done. Politics needs to take a backseat to the technical needs of getting a comprehensive Fire Suppression system that uses nonpotable water from answer infinite source. Thats what the grand jury has essentially argued for. Bell dings and so thats why i urge you to support this Going Forward in that manner. Thank you. Supervisor mar thank you. Next speaker, please. Ie