Transcripts For SFGTV BOS Land Use And Transportation Committee 20240712

Chair peskin good afternoon and welcome to the land use and transportation meeting for june 8, 2020. I am the chair of the committee, aaron peskin, joined by vice chair ahsha safai and dean preston. Our clerk is miss erica major. Miss major, do you have any announcements . Clerk yes. Because of the covid19 pandemic, the board of supervisors and legislative chamber are closed. However, members will be participating in the meeting locally. [inaudible] clerk each speaker will be allowed to speak. Comments or statements during the meeting are available by calling 4156550001. Again, thats 4156550001. The access code is 1454836716. Again, thats 1454836716, then press pound, pounce. You will hear the meeting discussions but will be muted, in listening mode. When Public Comment comes up, dial starthree to be added to the speaker line. Best practices are to call from a quiet location, speak slowly and clearly, and turn down your television or radio. Alternatively, you may submit Public Comments in the following ways. Email myself at erica. Major sfgof. Org. Thats erica. Major sfgov. Org. Lastly, the director of the office of civic engagement, adrian pond, has applied a spanish interpreter on item 1 to assist speakers in their native language with our Public Comment. Lets have arturo consenza interpret the public remarks. [speaking spanish language]. Interpreter thats everything. Thank you. Chair peskin gracias, arturo. Madam clerk, can you read the first item . Clerk yes. Item 1 is an ordinance amending the administrative code to prohibit landlords from evicting residential tenants for nonpayment of rent that was not paid due to the covid pandemic. Chair peskin thank you, miss major. First of all, before i yield the floor to the primary author of this legislation, supervisor preston, i want to apologize to everybody who waited patiently a week ago today. Unfortunately, we were forced to cancel that meeting because the rules Committee Meeting went all day long last monday, so i want to thank everybody who waited patiently for many hours, and im sorry that that meeting had to be cancelled, but we dont have technology or staff ability to run two Committee Meetings at once in the covid19 period. With that, supervisor dean preston, the floor is yours. Supervisor preston thank you, chair peskin. Colleagues, today, im asking you to move forward with positive recommendation this legislation to provide permanent eviction protections for renters impacted by covid19. Currently, the city and county of San Francisco has banned eviction for nonpayment of rent for the duration of the Current Health crisis. The concern remains what happened after, particularly for those who have experienced loss of income, many of whom were struggling to make ends meet before the coronavirus became our new reality. Without legislative change, there can be little doubt that when the Eviction Moratorium expires, that landlords will give tenants three days to pay for quit. What will happen will be an avalanche of evictions, massive in scale and irrepairable in harm. We must do everything to oppose that change. In effect, this would permanently take nonpayment eviction off the table for San Francisco renters struggling to payback rent that came due during this state of emergency. This change would make San Francisco among the most forward thinking cities in terms of protecting vulnerable lowincome tenants, but we would not be alone. In march, the Oakland City Council passed a similar ordinance which would likewise ban nonpayment evictions for covid related rent debt thanks to the leadership of nicky fortunadobass. I know my colleagues have heard in recent days about this legislation, so i wanted to take a moment to clarify some key points. First, heres what the legislation does. It prohibits the eviction for nonpayment of rent where rent payments become due during the state of emergency and nonpayment one arose out of a substantial decrease in Household Income or substantial outofpocket expenses. Two, that was caused by the covid19 pandemic or by any local, state, or federal government response to covid19; and three, is documented. In addition, it prohibits any interest, late fees or charges to tenants for late rent, and it is clear that the delayed rent cannot be used as grounds for eviction. No one who can pay their rent on time because of a Global Pandemic, which is something out of their control, should ever have to worry about being penallized with late fees and convictions. Heres what the legislation does not do. It does not remove the obligation of the tenant to pay the rent owed. It does not remove the obligation to pay debt. A tenant with the means to pay would have every reason to follow through on their contractual obligation in the same way they would have every reason to pay their monthly credit card bill or student loan payment. For tenants who cannot pay their back rent, this legislation seeks to protect tenants from landlords who would seek to evict. There can be no doubt that if the law remains as is, the san franciscans who will soon be kicked out of their homes will be from lowincome communities, and i believe its in our duty to offer them the full protection available by law. Colleagues, i ask you, as many san franciscans have been unable to work for ten weeks and counting, to forward this legislation without delay and with a positive recommendation to the full board of supervisors, and in so doing, you would be joining a long list of organizations demanding this measure and its he is annual, including the San Francisco Tenants Union, Affordable Housing alliance, Chinatown Development center, seiu 1021, seiu 2015, seuifww, transport union local workers, harvey milk lgbtq democratic club, poder, senior and disability action, black pan they are, tenderloin Development Neighborhood corporation, latino democratic club, noe neighborhood council, Richmond District rising, united to save the mission, delores Street Community services, somcan, ace, coleman advocates, Filipino Community center, chinese for affirmative action, soma filipinos, and colleagues, before i wrap up, i would like to offer some amendments, both of which i believe to be nonsubstantista which i believe you have received from the clerk, and one that we have heard that is relative to all small Property Owners who may themselves suffer hardship in the event that they are no longer able to receive or lose rental income. And i want to point out, in particular, and thank my colleague, ahsha safai, before this legislation was introduced, he and i, on the floor, discussed relief commitments for Property Owners to make sure that no one is harmed in their housing by this pandemic. I will be introducing at tomorrows Board Meeting a package of proposals that will propose longterm housing stability, among them, an increase in the fees on real estate transfers valued at 10 million or more that would allow some relief for owners who rent to tenants who cannot pay rent or the back rent obligation. All of these are critical steps in our relief efforts, and i would be offering an amendment to this legislation to create our intention to create this rent relief fund and program. The amendment, which has been distributed, as i mentioned, to Committee Members as a paragraph at page 3, lines 11 through 13, and reads as follows, that the board of supervisors intends to create a covid19 rent resolution and relief fund whose tenants are unable to pay rent due to the impact of covid19, and im cleaning up the finding sections and reference some changes since the legislation was introduced to the mayors directive and governors executive order. And as mentioned, all of these are nonsubstantive, as im advised by the city attorney. I would like to, before wrapping up, thank my cosponsors of the legislation, supervisors hillary ronen, matt haney, shamann walton, and aaron peskin. I would like to thank my legislative aid for his work, and Aaron Collins on the rent board who i understand is available to answer any questions that may come up. And finally, id like to thank the San Francisco antidispla l antidisplacement coalition and its membership and leadership on this for all of their work to protect the most vulnerable san franciscans from displacement. Thank you. You are muted, chair peskin. Chair peskin thank you, mr. Preston. Are there any questions for mr. Collins . Supervisor safai . Seeing none, why dont we go supervisor safai chair, im going to hold my questions and comments until after Public Comment. Chair peskin understood. Okay. So why dont we go to Public Comment. Madam clerk . Clerk mr. Chair, operations is checking to see if there are any callers in queue. Operations, please let us know if there are any callers already. If you have not already done so, please press starthree to be added to the queue. You will be prompted that your hand has already been raised. For those already on hold, please continue to wait. Chair peskin sorry, arturo. Go ahead. [speaking spanish language] operati operator okay. There are 70 callers in the queue. I will start with the first caller. Clerk thank you. A city does not have Legal Authority under the governors order to restrict a landlords ability to cover rent due. This will make it nearly impossible for proposal will make it nearly impossible for small landowners to pay rent during covid19. This proposal, along with the closure of the court system, would allow tenants to live rent free from march 2020 to potentially september and beyond, and landlords would have no legal resource to recoupe unpaid rent. The board of supervisors cannot and should not prevent landlords who have been financially impacted by covid19 from enforcing our rights. Small landowners are particularly hard hit by renters who cannot pay. Even one in four who cannot pay, the owners are experiencing a hardship. Im a landowner in San Francisco. I waited patiently the last four months for rent, and i feel like i should be made whole. I feel like my role is not to provide free housing. Thats the role of San Francisco, so im looking forward to hopefully getting my complete rent back, but San Francisco feels that i should delay getting rent. Thats it. Clerk thank you. Next caller, please. Hello, caller . Hello . Clerk yes, you have two minutes to speak. Hello. Hi. I am a landlord here in San Francisco, and i am completely opposed to 300 this legislation. It shouldnt put the all the financial burden of tenants who are unable to pay on the backs of Small Business owners in San Francisco, and thats all i have to say. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hi. I only oppose this ordinance. Please know that just last month, the full board vote for 15 million 15 million funding care. Can you direct 5 million every month to San Francisco renters . Can you do that . You can do that, right . Do that now. Tomorrow, 5 million for San Francisco renters to help people in this audience. Thats all i want to say. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Im mina young. Im a long time San Francisco owner, and a voter, and business please say no to this legislation. Its unconstitutional, so any workers who can get paychecks, youre not going to tell them that because of the covid19, they should not expect to get paychecks, they should just go through the Small Claims Court to get it. And you, as supervisors, you should not be getting paid, either, you should expect to only go through Small Claims Court to get your money, so thats why youre saying. The homeowners are already providing essential service during this critical time. Covid19 knows no colors. It impacts everyone, no matter whether you have house or not, so everybodys impacted. You should not expect one party to provide free service to another and singlehandedly burn the difficulties, so please say no to this legislation. Thanks. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hi. Can you hear me . Chair peskin yes. Clerk yes. You have two minutes to speak. Yes. Okay. Great. My name is abe fields. I i im a resident of district 5. Im calling in support of this legislation. I distribute rental assistance for a living. Before this pandemic hit, our city was already in a housing crisis, and i spoke to a never ending stream of families who were at a high risk of defaulting on their rent families because its so freaking high. Many families work over 60 hours a week only to be able to afford a shared bedroom in the tenderloin. In the past through months, our office has been flooded with calls asking about covid related back rent assistance. We actually started turning people away. Some renters have such large back rent balances that our office cant help, and their cases will turn into an unlawful detainer action if this legislation does not pass. The sixmonth period the tenants are give right now given right now to payback their covid rent debt is not enough. Forcing people out of their homes because they cannot pay rent will not only put more pressure on the city and will further exacerbate the covid19 crisis. Thank you, supervisors, for hearing me, and thats all my time. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. My name is tom, and im a renter in the sunset district, number 4. Before this pandemic, ive had to choose between fixing my vehicle and keeping a roof over my head. Living in San Francisco is hard enough. Please support this eviction relief. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. If you have not done so, please press starthree to be entered into the queue. If youve already done so, please continue to hold. Hello, supervisors. My name is jason, and im a resident of district 1. No one who has lost their job during this time can be expected to pay tens of thousands of dollars in back rent. Its just not going to be possible. Anyone who supports a moratorium on evictions now but does not pass this bill had better be ready for a huge wave of evictions a few months from now. I would first ask you to support the bill supervisor preston just spoke about, which is intended to payback rent on behalf of your tenants. You will be made whole because of this legislation. Please, please support this bill. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Hello, caller . My name is gabby. Can you hear me . Clerk yes, you have two minutes to speak. Thank you. My name is gabby ruiz, and i am the policy and planning manager at tndc. We are in full support of this ordinance and feel that it will protect many of our tenants who have struggled to pay rent during this time. In my work consulting with other Staff Members who consult other residents in our tndc building, the biggest concerns i hear of our clients loss of income, potential evictions, and what will happen to our clients housing if they cannot pay rent once this pandemic is over. There is a fear that they will become homeless if rent protections are not put in place. I also want to thank you, supervisor preston, for introducing those amendments because i feel it is important to acknowledge the concerns of nonprofit Housing Providers as we enter the potential for significant loss of income due to the nonpayment of rents in the coming months and years, and as protections are given to the tenants, we hope that consideration is given to Housing Providers that would incur a reasonable repayment schedule or create some type of public funding process that allows for landlords to recoup lost rent. It is important for our properties to have sufficient rent to operate our properties at a high level of property, and although well be sharing in the collective struggle of our tenants, we hope well be able to create a way that all parties have equitable protections moving forward. Again, thank you so much for introducing this ordinance. We are in full support of this legislation and its intent, and we will work with the public to identify a reliable source of rent repayment. Thank you so much. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello . Caller . Next speaker, please. Hello. Can you hear me . Clerk yes. You have okay. Wonderful. Hi. Im a musician in San Francisco and a freelance facilitator. I receive a received multiple hiring freezes and gigs cancelled and have had zero income since the pandemic hit. All of the rent that im not able to pay, i dont see clearly how im supposed to come up with that. Even as employment starts to reappear, it would only cover basic expenses. This is a huge unnecessary burden, and its awful to think that people are going to be punished for not paying rent when they simply live in San Francisco. When im told i cannot go to work, i should not have to pay my rent because i dont have any money to do that, so i want to support this measure and i appreciate dean preston for introducing this eviction legislation because theres many, many of us. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hi. My name is katie sass. Im a district 8 resident and a tenant rights attorney in the city. I strongly urge the board of supervisors to pass this legislation because no one should become homeless from unemployment during the pandemic. This will become a concrete reality for thousands of san franciscans if legislation is not enacted. I know this because every day i see the overwhelming impact that eviction has on our community. Even if folks are able to resume the jobs that they had before the pandemic, many will simply not have the financial means to catch up on back rent within six months. This will be devastating to our neighbors and to our city. San francisco cannot have the economic recovery that it wants if theres a wave of evictions in january, and it would be cruel and unjust to put our fellow san franciscans on the streets through no fault of their own. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, supervisors. On behalf of district 11 neighborhood alliance, Communities United for health and justice, im calling in strong support of supervisor prestons eviction protection ordinance. As this pandemic plays out, our population is especially vulnerable. We have the highest population of youth and seniors, a high population of undocumented immigrants. In the middle of this pandemic, housing relief is vital. D11 has the highest number of singlefamily homes in San Francisco, and most of them are owner occupied. Asian law caucus study found that 70 of excelsior residents were renters, and that half of all tenants lived in secondary units. Of these households, 87 were very lowincome, and 60 were extremely lowincome. The need for bold preventative legislation to prevent mass evictions on renters whose rent debt is amassing through no fault of their own is acute. As written, supervisor prestons legislation would stop the eviction of tenants who cannot pay rent because of covid19. It does not prevent landlords from getting what theyre owed. We support this legislation. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . I am the owner of a nineunit Apartment Building in San Francisco. We recently added four new units. To absolve the tenants from their rents will place an undue hardship on me if i have the added expense of paying for the new units, how do you expect me to pay for the building of these units . It is greatly unfair for the board to grant the tenants free rent for so many months when we landlords have to pay construction workers, maintenance, electric, and overall maintenance of the building. It will not help the tenants if the building is reduced to a slum property, and we as landlords cannot keep up with the maintenance expenses. I do realize that theres evictions for our tenants. I would not allow that, but this ruling is going to take advantage of a lot of landlords. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hi. My name is tyler, and i live in district 6. I really think that legislation like this is kind of a no brainer. At least for me, and i think this is true for a lot of people. I look at my expenses every month, and rent is my highest one, so rent relief or any kind of thing like this that helps renters is welcome, rather than a check for 1200 from the government or anything like that. As the supervisors said, if we have an Eviction Moratorium and nothing like this, were just going to delay them and see a huge wave of evictions in the future, which i dont think anyone wants. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, supervisors. My name is david wu. Im with soma filipinas, filipino Cultural Heritage district. I just want to give soma filipinas is in full support of supervisor peskins legislation. Thank you for introducing it. The Filipino Community has faced waves of historical displachl, from the igrant hotel to displacement, from the igrand hotel to landlord tycoons, so we support this. Thank you so much. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. My name is kathrin [inaudible] to multiple pathways. [inaudible] decreathank you. Clerk thank you. Next caller, please. Yeah, hi. My name is carrie im sorry. Can you hear me . Clerk yes, i can hear you. My name is carrie. Im a district 5 resident, and im also an sfusd teacher . Im calling in support of this legislation . I think it would be immoral of our city to leave such a huge part of our Community Behind at this time. I do hear all of the landlords that have called in, and i obviously support any measures that need to be taken to also ensure that landlords can be stable and be made whole. That needs to be part and parcel of what happens in order to bring all of our community along together. As a schoolteacher in the last ten weeks, i have seen the impact of unstable housing on so many of my students and the move from unstable housing to homelessness. As we all know, homelessness is a factor that causes children to miss school, to leave school earlier, to have lower test scores. Really, in the classroom, it looks like kids are just sitting there and looking worried, or looking out the window, wondering where their family is at the moment or asking what are we doing now because its really hard for them to concentrate because of the stress that theyre facing. In the last few weeks, my students have become even more stressed and even more unable to focus. One way or another, the city of San Francisco will end up paying for what happens during the covid19 crisis. Either we can take care of all of our residents and pay now and put that money into our community now so were not leaving it behind, or we can leave tons and tons of people behind and see increased hospital usage, increased e. R. Use a usage, and increased expenses as far as the department of public works, and all of these people will have been put out of housing. So to me. Clerk speakers time is [inaudible] clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. Can you hear me . Clerk yes. You have two minutes. I am a journalist and disability advocate. I am disabled myself, and i work closely with the coalition on homelessness, as well. I want to first and foremost thank dean preston for his unbelievable leadership during this pandemic. Few people have stepped up to show leader should be during this crisis, and leadership during this crisis, and i want to thank him. I want to point out that the number what were talking about has very real consequences. When people dont have a home, oftentimes, they die. The number of Homeless People has tripled during covid19. If mass evictions go through, you will see that number greatly increase. 275 people died homeless on our streets last year. We will see that number at least tripled if evictions are forced to go through for people who cannot work during this crisis. I think this legislation offers protections for Small Business owners, the amendment that mr. Preston has clearly stated, and i think the fallouts of not passing this amendment will be absolutely horrible. It will make the protests we have right now look like a walk in the park. It will make the legal problems we have right now look like a walk in the park. Itll very important that our homeless, the vast majority of whom are disabled should not be penalized for a Health Crisis that they did not create and they are a victim to. Thank you for your time. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Hello . Can you hear me . Clerk yes. You have two minutes to speak. Thank you. My name is cynthia gomez, and im the Data Analysis with the union thats representing hospitality workers. As would be no surprise to everyone, our members have been devastated by this pandemic and are facing a tremendous fight to get made whole again, and we support this legislation because it will provide protection against one of the most psychologically devastating things that a family can understand go, which is being forceablely evicted. As other callers have mentioned, it does not just provide psychological and emotional protection, but it provides protection against the extremely december remittal and physical Health Effects of being made homeless. So we support this legislation this. Would stop landlords from evicting tenants, but it would not stop landlords from getting what theyre owed. It keeps that on the table, so we support this as a tool that San Francisco can take to prevent mass evictions after the pandemic emergency. San francisco takes a leadership role. Its a role we embrace, and its an example that we hope that cities around the country and state will follow. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Thank you. My name is curtis ackerson, and im a landlord. One thinga single duplex. I live in one part of the house, and another person lives in the other part of the house. This ordinance divides rather than unites people in our city. You cant say were for everyone when you go after landlords. Why not bring all the stakeholders to the table and come up with some solutions, rather than tieing some of the stakeholders to the stake . This isnt time for esca for scapegoatism. Some people seem to be taking a play out of president trumps play book. The reality is that landlords are Small Business owners that need help. Rather than attacking Small Business owners, why doesnt the supervisors themselves do something within their power to alleviate the Health Crisis . Why dont they give full or partial property tax credits to landlords who forgive rent for those affected by covid19 . Youve heard many people on this call talk about payments, yet this bill does nothing about it. It was a little addendum as an after thought, which is not what this is doing. I used to be a renter. If you want more Consumer Debt, raise your hand. Thats what youre getting, more Consumer Debt from this legislation that either the landlord nor the tenant created. Why dont you amend sb 1410 . It uses state of california money to do exactly that make direct rent payments to renters and landlords, and it helps them cooperate and get paid. Theres state money available for this . Y the state solved the problem rather than clerk thank you for your comments. Next caller, please . My wife and i own small flats in San Francisco, flats where ive lived for decades. Covid19 affects everybody, but many landlords face similar situations to tenants. They face bills they must pay. If landlords dont pay their expenses, they may well lose the property, and himself or herself is evicted, often with the tenants. No one will save them. What will the housing landscape look like in San Francisco with more foreclosed and shuttered properties than we already have . Will these same lowincome tenants will be able to maintain the property . Sadly, not. San Francisco May begin to look like havana after castro forbid landlords from charging rent. Havana is still in a state of decay today. Supervisor prestons legislation is so one sided that likely, at some point, it will be overturned by the courts, making tenants liable for back rent they didnt think they would have to pay and subjecting the city itself to myriad and sometimes excessive lawsuits from landlords who lost their property or forced to sell in a down market. Landlords didnt cause the housing crisis. We didnt cause the covid19 pandemic. The only solution lies at the National Level, through the state most likely, and targeting landlords, youre hurting everyone and failing to take the action that might really alleviate the problem. Remember, the banks and corporations that bottom feed on those affected by the legislation will not be better landlords. Moreover, these banks and corporations will be able to litigate matters in the courts for decades, and the owner may s city may see themselves on the losing end of the process. No on 200375. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Good afternoon. I am marlene tran. I oppose this proposal, as well. Many renters and even some Housing Providers out of work, it seems a reasonable temporary stopgap measure, but it really isnt. This proposal may have unintended consequences to tenants, as well. I became a small property from frugal savings and 35 years of parttime teaching of immigrant students. After years of hard work, some people have managed to buy their properties while some have made investments. They appeal to me to ask you to make fair proposals for all. This would make it impossible for small Property Owners to recoup their rents because it places the burden on mom and pop owners who still have to pay mortgages, maintenance, and other expenses, and we have to pay the fees during lawsuits when tenants get free legal representation. Personally, since the city does not provide help for us, this legislation will make it even harder for us to continue to be providers. How about all the supervisors pitch in and donate 25 of the pay to have tenants, as well . Dont force small Property Owners into foreclosures that ultimately will displace our tenants. During the challenging time, please maintain reasonable legislation to allow Property Owners and tenants to coexist. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. Can you hear me . Clerk yes, we can hear you. You have two minutes to speak. Okay. My name is kelly, and i am a renter from district 5 . Im calling in incredible support of this bill. I want to thank my supervisor, dean preston, who im really thankful for. I work for San Francisco Unified School District as a school psychologist. We currently have thousands of homeless students, and we risk even more becoming homeless. I want to correct an earlier comment that said that everyone is equally affected by this pandemic. We know that covid19 is disproportionately affecting people of color, and we see families of color being further displaced as a result of the impact of lost jobs and Health Complications in working, and a loss of income. Please consider this bill. I am in major support of it, and again, i just want to thank dean preston. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Next speaker, please. Hello. You have you have two minutes to speak. Hi. My name is ivy mcclellan. Im a long time San Francisco resident and work with people of color in particular those who have experienced homelessness for the past 20 years. Im in a very unique position. I could face homelessness due to the fact that i lost both of my jobs due to covid, and i want to advocate for this really important bill in order to save rental housing for people like myself who do not have the luxury of savings or any other way to to payoff this debt that came about because of covid19. I strongly support this bill, and thank you for your time and effort in putting it together. Clerk thank you. For those listening, you can press starthree to be added to speak, and you will be prompted that you have raised your hands. For those who have, please continue to wait. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Hi. My name is scott weaver, and i work at the eviction defense collaborative, and ive been related to issues related to tenant eviction for the past 30 years. I can say without a doubt we anticipate a tidal wave of evictions unless legislation is passed. We know a tsunami is coming, and we know that the after shocks will be increased homelessness, a strain on our social services and incalculable human cost. Everything needs to give something up, and landlords, especially San Francisco landlords own extremely valuable property with some of the highest rents in the country, which tenants have been paying. They simply have more wealth than most tenants and will not be put out on the street or have to use our safety net. Furthermore, it doesnt mean the tenants will nbe able to live rent free. It means the tenants still have the financial obligation, and its a debt rather than an eviction, which is what the legislation is intended to prevent. Some landlords will be hurt, but not as bad as the thousands of tenants will be, and supervisor prestons trailing legislation will immediately relieve some of this financial burden that they will immediately face, and i urge you to support all of this legislation. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. This is eileen from the San Francisco Tenants Union, a volunteer. Ive been directing calls that weve been getting about tenants not being able to pay. This does not count tenants who have considered moving because theyre unable to pay. Our mission at the Tenants Union is to prevent homelessness. Were already facing a housing crisis here in San Francisco, and this will affect it more, including landlords. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Next speaker, please. Hello . Clerk hi. You have two minutes to speak. Hello . Clerk hi. We can hear you. Hi. Im miranda can you hear me . Clerk yes, we can hear you. Can you hear me . Clerk yes. All right. Im miranda hanrahanbeech. I live in district 10, and i want to urge the board of supervisors unequivocally to pass the legislation which is an absolutely essential move to protect thousands of people from losing their homes a few months ago. Ive its hard to see how theres even any question that this is necessary, given that the board of supervisors has already agreed that people should not be losing their homes due to nonpayment of rent due to this covid crisis which is not their fault by suspending evictions. To not make that ban permanent is just to postpone, as many people have said, that wave of evictions that will result in a massive wave of homelessness that will confront the city with yet another giant public Health Crisis which is going to be incredibly destructive to the health of the city and the economy of the city and will hurt everyone. So i want to unequivocally express my support for this bill, and i want to thank the board of supervisors for their leadership in protecting tenants and protecting the city as best as they can from the disaster that is covid19 and the economic crisis that comes with it. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello. Im from the San Francisco Tenants Union, and we support this legislation wholeheartedly because without this legislation, we know were just kicking the can down the road of thousands of evictions possibly. Whats the purpose of an eviction mo Eviction Moratorium if people have to pay it at the end of that time. We know whats coming unless we solve the problem with a reasonable piece of legislation, like this one. The landlords who are speaking on this call, this lemgislatio does not come after you. It merely prevents eviction for a certain period of time when they cant go to work. We asked people to not go to work for a certain period of time so they dont have to support the burden themselves. I ask the board of supervisors to support this legislation. Please support some of our most vulnerable residents. As the supervisors have said, the people who are having the hardest time coming up for this money are people who are unemployed. Folks who are undocumented, folks who are lowincome. Those are the folks we need to protect most in keeping in our city, and those are the folks who need our help the most at this time. Thank you so much. Clerk hello. Next speaker, please. Hello . Clerk caller, you have two minutes to speak. Is that for me . Clerk yes. Yes, maam. Hello. You have two minutes to speak. Yes. I have been affected as a Small Business owner with this covid19 crisis, and i meanwhile am a landlord owning threeunit buildings. I think small apartment Business Owners Apartment Building Business Owners should not be responsible for providing free rent and not be able to evict. I have to provide a living for my family and my Small Business, which is a restaurant, has been terribly impacted, and we should get some support from the state or the government if we are going to help the tenants that cannot pay their rent. So, you know, both of us, all of us have to get support, not just the tenants. Which i understand they are high impacted, as well, but so am i, as well, so thank you for this measure. Thank you so much. So i am against this measure. Thank you so much. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller. You have two minutes. Thank you. Good afternoon, supervisors. I am a district resident in the Richmond District. I want to thank supervisor peskin for working with the community on this balanced approach to protecting tenants and honoring the needs of certain landlords to recoup last income. I hope you will support this legislation with the proposed amendments. Please remember that thousands of san franciscans, disproportionately lowincome people of color have lost their jobs. [inaudible] that tenants will not lose their homes as they struggle to get current with their rent obligations. Landlords will still be able to recover the rent payments owed to them. Landlords start evicting tenants for unpaid back rent, both landlords and tenants would lose because landlords would not recover the back rent, and tenants would lose their homes. When small Property Owners are generally worried about income, this legislation addresses that. This legislation strikes the right balance of protecting tenants from evictions and upholding landlords rights. I ask for your full support in this. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello. Anastasia iannopoulos. Thank you, supervisor preston, for your stopgap measure. It will keep tenants housed. It doesnt mean landlords will not receive rent. Tenants will owe that money. It will become a Consumer Debt, so otherwise, landlords would have to evict the tenants, tenants would be out on the street, and they would never collect the money anyhow, so i think this is the best solution for the time being. Keep tenants housed and give them time to payback the money. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller. You have two minutes. Hello . Can you hear me . Clerk hi. Yes, you have two minutes. Hi. Great. Hi there. My name is laura connor, and im a tenyear resident of district 8. Im a renter, and i just want to express my enthusiastic support of this legislation. I think its the most compassionate choice in terms of what we can do as a city for the vast majority of people who will be negatively affected by covid19. So thank you so much, dean preston, for introducing this idea, and i hope it goes through. Thank you. Thank you very much for your time. Clerk thank you. Next caller, please. Hello. Can you hear me . Clerk yes, you have two minutes. Yes. My name is hannah flannery. Im a staff attorney at Legal Assistance to the elderly, where i represent seniors and people with disabilities facing eviction. When Health Advocates explain what protections are currently in place, we have to explain that these protections are temporary, and tenants will have to payback the rent. For many tenants, theres one big problem. Its unclear where the money will come from, and howtenants are supposed to protect themselves when these protections disappear. While tenants will be working hopefully with the city to payback the money owed, they should not be facing or threatened with displacement. I heard earlier in this meeting that the impact on mom and pop landlords. Heres the thing. Even if this ordinance passes, landlords will be able to get the back rent they believe they are owed. They will go through the cou , courts, just like they would have to do if they are going through eviction proceedings. They just wont be able to permanently remove their tenants from their home. Nobody calling in to oppose this ordinance hazas articulat why they feel that forcing tenants from their homes through eviction is necessary for a landlord to be made whole. This hasnt been articulated because its not necessary. If San Francisco wants to consider itself a prerogative community that actually acknowledges the existence of all of its community, we need to take bold initiatives like this to keep people housed. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello. Clerk hi. You have two minutes. Im a three year resident of San Francisco, and im these last several months have been really tough everyone. Im currently helping support my brothers, mostly disabled, and my daughter. My expenses recently went up. In addition, im paying property taxes, insurance, and maintenance expenses. The building we have was built in 1904, so you can imagine theres a lot of maintenance. Over 30,000 in repairs last year alone. Now i understand the board wants to fund tenants to help pay rent out of the general fund. They should do that. I dont think its progressive at all to pass the expense onto mom and pop landlords. Theyre basically Small Business people, and they may be struggling financially. I ask if you wish to do this, please give direct grants to the tenants rather than forcing the landlords to try some pie in the sky scenario in the future to try to recover lost rent. Thank you very much for your time. Clerk thank you. Next speaker. Hi. My name is jackie, and i am a tenant in district well as a well as a tenants right attorney in San Francisco. Im calling today to ask the board of supervisors to enact this legislation. The current protections in place set tenants up who have been financially impacted by covid19 for evictions in just a few months. San francisco renters should not be forced from their homes during a Global Pandemic. We have to prioritize working class folks in our neighborhoods, otherwise we will lose them as neighbors. We will lose the diversity of our city, and it will become what were afraid of a city of the ultraelite and homeless. While every other area of the economy has taken a hit, landlords expect to receive their rent in full each month, regardless of whats happening around them, demonstrating a lack of compassion and empathy. While changing this rent into debt is not much, its a step in the right direction and keeps tenants have being evicted from their homes. Thank you to the supervisors. I appreciate your time. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. My name is lauren, and im a resident of supervisor district 1, and i can thank supervisor preston for bringing this bill forward. Im calling in enthusiastic support of this bill, and i think i paid enough of my landlords mortgage through my rent to have a say in this. I just want to acknowledge that most of us as joseph mentioned before, most of us our bank tenants, and we owe a lot to banks. This is what we can do at the local level to help the most vulnerable. This ordinance is for all of us. By protecting the most vulnerable, we protect all of us because theres no situation in which a landlord might not find themselves becoming a tenant. Theres really no situation, right . So were protecting all of us, so i fully support this bill and want to acknowledge that all of these conversations are being held on ohlone land, and we should not forget that. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. [inaudible] so i think while this is going in the right direction, i do oppose this bill because it does not protect the landlords enough from potentially losing their property or maintaining their property. I think a really good suggestion is the government should take a part in paying for the rent thats not being covered right now so that we can all kind of Work Together . Because i think for a big part, most of the landlords would like their tenants to be able to stay where they are, but simply, this rent not being covered makes it challenging on all ends of the spectrum. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hi. Hello. Clerk hi. Youll have two minutes to speak. Hello . Are you talking to me. Clerk yes, im talking to you. Youll have two minutes to speak. Im bill kwan, and im calling to oppose this legislation. I think it will practically make it impossible to collect the debt, and i think the legislation provides incentives to latch onto that i was covid19 impacted because it looks like the tenant providing voluntary information. It doesnt say anything about the landlord being able to require verified information. I think in that situation the landlord would be intimidated because they feel like they might be charged with harassment and so forth. I think it would have the possibility of impacting those tenants who had not been paying rent prior to the covid19 orders being put in place. Also, in terms of national surveys, the before april, there was an outcry from many tenant activists that many people would not be able to pay their rent in april and may, and that hasnt been borne out by National Statistics. Approximately 90 of people both in april and may have paid, so i dont think that your information you have there is based on any kind of case study or any kind of thorough studies. I think it sounds like anecdotal, and weve heard these cries before about the coming disasters, but the National Statistics dont bear it out. Also, i think that the legislation [inaudible] and i have a few already with my tenants, and i dont like to see them interfered with, especially since we both entered into an agreement voluntarily. So for the above reasons, i urge you to vote no on the proposed legislation. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Supervisors, elaine petty here. Im a long time renter and voter of district 5, the fillmore, and im a member of senior and disability action. I support supervisor peskins legislative package. I believe it offers help in a very fair and balanced way to all san franciscans in threat of losing their homes due to circumstances completely not of their making. We have been hit with a triple epidemic the virus, economic recession, along with the ongoing racial and social injustice. And on top of all three, we can see the fourth epidemic coming the mass evictions as soon as the emergency is declared over. Now many, many landlords are fair, but we know there are those that will strike immediately, evicting as soon as theyre allowed, and we know they will affect immigrant tenants, lowincome seniors, and people with disabilities. In other words, people with no options. We can do something now about the fourth epidemic. Supervisors, its within your power to stop this threat. Please make sure we dont lose our homes. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Again, the caller number is 4156550001. The access code is 4156836716, pound, pound. For those of you who would like to speak in Public Comment, please starthree, and continue to wait. We appreciate your patience. Next caller, please. Hi. My name is allison, and i completely support the ordinance 200375. Im a renter in San Francisco, district 8, and i work in Public Health here in the city. As you know, San Francisco has some of the work income inequality and high rent in the country. 70 of people who are currently homeless in s. F. Had a home at one time. The pandemic and the homelessness, covid, and Police Brutality are all connected. Renters in San Francisco should not be expected to pay thousands of dollars in back rent in a short amount of time when so many of us are trying to survive off of nonexistent or slashed wages. I would like to say that the landlords who have spoken today have spoken about the threat of foreclosure while the tenants today have spoken about the threat of homelessness. Its not the same. Instead of fighting tenants over scraps, the landlords on this call should push for relief from state and local governments. No one should become homeless as a result of this pandemic. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Hello. Hi. My name is dawson. Im calling from seniors for actions with disabilities. Im calling because young disabled people and working seniors who have recently lost their jobs, they should not be placed on the streets, and theres a critical lapse in Affordable Housing in the city and county of San Francisco . For them to find another place to stay is almost completely impossible . And it is a good remind [inaudible] also, incredible housing insecurity is big amongst our members. Other members that we have have been complaining and also been very in pain because they cannot afford to pay rent . Almost all of their s. S. I. And s. S. D. Checks are going into rent, leaving them with just loose change . Also, to respond to previous comments, covid survival rate heeds color as it does age and disability. Its d its despicable that landlords speaking out during this pandemic are saying that their worlds will change forever. The only way for tenants and the city of San Francisco to be made whole is to provide for all of our residents and to continue to build from their together. Thank you very much. Clerk thank you very much for your comments. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hello, caller . Hi. Can you hear me . Clerk yes. You have two minutes. Hi. Thank you. My name is jessica, and im a resident of district 1, the richmond . And i just want to voice my support for this ordinance, and i just want to thank dean preston and all of those organizations and leaders involved . As a like, as a resident of San Francisco, a tenant, i have i have had the privilege of being able to of having an income to pay rent, and i acknowledge that many, many others have not . And i also echo many other callers who have spoken to you of the interconnectedness of homelessness and, like, the Police Brutality system as well as education and our youth . Its also interconnected, and i hear many of the landlords on this call, and i urge you to, like, not support evicting tenants and to work for relief directly to landlords . Again, i fully support this ordinance and yield my time. Clerk thank you. And next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hello . Hi . Clerk you have two minutes. Hi. Hello. My name is sarah, and im a resident in district 5 . I wanted to start by thanking supervisor preston for this legislation and say that i fully support it. I am an educator, and i live in a marginalized lowincome community of educators and activists and artists, and just two days ago, we received a threatening letter from our landlord in San Francisco who owns over 300 properties in San Francisco and makes over 300 million a year. This is extremely aremalarmingd i feel extremely vulnerable. And that makes it hard for me to engage in my community and stay in San Francisco. We see gentrification and white washing all over this city. A bill like this, making sure that people stay in San Francisco who belong in San Francisco is extremely crucial for maintaining the integrity of our city, and so i strongly support this legislation. Thank you so much, supervisor dean. Im proud to be in your district, and im proud to have voted for you. I will always vote for you again. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next caller, please. You will have two minutes. Hello, caller . Hello. My name is Lolita Hernandez and im a Housing Affordability lawyer. And im here to advise my strong support for supervisor prestons legislation [inaudible] this is the time for us to stand with our community and support our working class and person of color immigrants who are not eligible for Unemployment Benefits and the state relief 1410 as it is now written that landlords refer to on their calls. I urge you to support this important legislation and protect our vulnerable community. Thank you for your time and consideration. Clerk thank you. Next caller, please. Hi. Im here to voice my strong support for supervisor prestons eviction protection ordinance. [inaudible] even before covid19 as everyone has mentioned, San Francisco renters, particularly the community who we serve, were struggling to make ends meet. With so many people out of work and without a stable way to earn income for the foreseeable future, we know that there will be widespread evictions after the state of emergency expires. We are concerned that this wave of evictions would further exacerbate this pandemic, putti putting more tenants at risk. [please stand by]. During covid19, many of those jobs will not reopen in the immediate future. In addition to this, there are seniors who have lost their roommates, and that income made it possible for them to actually remain in their homes, and due to their under lying health conditions, sheltering in place, this has meant that they cannot bring in new roommates right now. They are also very worried about losing the current protections that they have, and fear eviction in the future. So many have been trying to scrape together all that they can, actually selling Household Items to get 5 to 15 for items to help make it possible to pay their april and may rent, and its frightening for them to be a part of this have vulnerable population that is dying with this virus. And adding to that, then, the isolation and thinking of delaying that, building up debt, and resulting in he vacations is just truly unbearable. So with this with this protection right now, with this ordinance, people will have a chance to catch up on their loss of income, on their loss of roommates so that they can continue to pay their rent and remain in their homes. Im happy to support the amendment that would establish a rent relief fund. The small Property Owners that i know and when i say small Property Owners, i mean a couple of buildings that are three to six units, as long time landlords, that they should be able to access that while tenants are unable to pay rent while they are unable to work during that time. So thank you, supervisor preston. I so support this. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker . You have two minutes. I want to say this is not only an important legislation. But theres a moral imperative for these supervisors to pass this ordinance. Why do we underestimate the longterm economic effects of what were seeing now . In the last week of march, 1. 1 californians applied for unemployment. The effects of the covid19 situation does not end when landlords throw tenants outside. [inaudible] working remotely. These techies are the ones that have created shortages by pushing out renters are disproportionately not black and latinx. If they matter to you, keep them housed and keep them in San Francisco. This is the easiest possible bare minimum litmus test for basic human empathy towards the working class of San Francisco. People deserve a roof over their heads after being laid off for something outside of their control. Make no bones about what your answer to that question is, if you vote against the bill. Id also just like to add that earlier in these conversations, a comparison of trump and some fabricated targeting of landlords. Its so intellectually dishonest to say that. Clerk thank you for your comments. Hello, caller. You have two minutes. Speakers who are in the queue, please continue to hold. Thank you. Hi. Good afternoon. My name is leticia, and i am calling in to voice my strong support for supervisor prestons eviction protection ordinance, file 200375 . I am the sfriesk housi San Francisco housing organizer with casa husa. Weve spoken with hundreds of tenants calling our hotline, and the majority of those are people calling facing evictions due to covid19. [inaudible] when rent comes due. I am terrified of the word eviction, what will happen after the state of emergency expires, and there will be a wave of evictions if we dont take urgent action now. This ordinance would stop landlords from evictioning tens who cant pay because of covid19. It wont stop them from getting what theyre owed, it just takes eviction off the table. Now i want to say that i also feel for small landlords. My landlord is my motherinlaw, and my dad is a homeowner. We should be cancelling rents and mortgages to support everyone keeping and staying in their homes. This is something that our governor has the power to do, and while that happens, the board must pass this ordinance. We are urging you to vote yes and support this important legislation from passing and protecting thousands of tenants probably who will be at risk of clerk thank you for your comments. [inaudible] clerk next speaker, please. Next speaker, please. Next speaker, please. Hello . Hi. My name is simon, and im a resident of district 8. Im strongly in support of this legislation, and i strongly urge the supervisors to support this ordinance. [inaudible] we are not asking thank you. Next speaker, please. Joy with Housing Rights Committee. I am also a resident of district 8. I strongly support legislation to make nonpayment of rent nonevictable. Even though theres an Eviction Moratorium in place, tenants will still have to payback rent. We see tenants paying rent over buying food because theyre facing eviction. This will give tenants an opportunity to come up with a rent payment while having a place to call home. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. You will hear that your line has been unmuted. Good afternoon. This is bruce bowen from district 8 and the San Francisco land use coalition. Thank you, supervisor preston, for this compassionate and balanced measure to protect tenants during this time. I strongly support the additional steps discussed earlier today. The board cant stop here with this ordinance. Therell be more actions for the city to take to protect other classes suffering from this crisis. Thank you. Please pass this ordinance. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes to speak. Hello. My name is peter, and im a i live in district 9, and ive been a resident of San Francisco for 12 years. I urge you to support this legislation in order to protect housing security. The landlords are concerned about loss of rental income . We must remember that theyre speaking to equivolate their mortgages with tenant rights and basic human decency. This would protect tenants who might never see another opportunity like this in their lifetime. I urge you to completely disregard landlord complaints about this matter. This serves one part of the homele coalition, and we need to increase services, not depress systems. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next caller. You will hear that your line has been unmuted. Hi. My name is truk, and i am actually not afraid of being evicted right now. Im calling in for people who dont know this is happening or who cant call in. I strongly ask the landlords to check their own privilege. If they own property in the city, they have a lot more than a lot of us. I just urge you to continue to fight for all of us and consider our most vulnerable. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Next speaker, please. Hello . Clerk hi. You have two minutes to speak. Hi. My name is brittany henry, and i am a current renter in district 9, the Sunset Mission district. I have lived in the bay area my entire life, as have my parents and as have their parents. I am calling to support this legislation, and i ask that the supervisors do the same. I am a memory kber ber of u. S. D to safe the mission, and i work on a save the mission, and i work on a number of other cultural organizations in s. F. Because of my own Health Concerns and other concerns during the pandemic, i have been left unemployed, and due to ongoing issues with my work documentation, i have been unable to obtain unemployment. I continue to pay rent even with the moratorium in place. I have been relying on a lot of friends and family, and due to my recent financial position had to rely on the moratorium because i couldnt pay the rent on my home. I found out last monday the morning of the original hearing date that one of my family members was fatally wounded during a protest in the east bay the night before. She was only 18. I say this because you need to hear how much people are hurting right now, how long i am hurting right now. I am not sure how im going to be able to maintain my housing in the coming here if my landlord snatches it from me. Clerk thank you for your comment. Next caller, please. Hello, caller . Hi. I am sorry. I was on mute. Can you hear me okay . Clerk yes. You have two minutes to speak. Wonderful. Can you so much thank you so much. [inaudible] clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. I am a long time resident of district 9, the mission. Im calling in support of this legislation. Thank you, dean preston, for creating this for us. I want to start by saying shame on all the landlords that are dissenting this right now. If youre complaining about this, you clearly didnt listen to dean preston explain how landlords would also be protected. How many of these landlords that claim to be affected even live here in San Francisco . Also, if you own a property, youre more able to get Financial Assistance than renters, who depend on lowincome paychecks. The renters who should qualify for decisions are the same that have suffered for years as supervisors subsidize homeowners who live in other parts of the country and [inaudible] and i yield my time. Clerk thank you. If you want to participate in Public Comment, press starthree to be added to the queue. You will hear that your hand has been raised. Please stay until you hear that i acknowledge you for Public Comment. If you havenarent hearing any, stay on the line now. Next speaker, please. [inaudible] if the tenants are not paying rent, i will not be able to keep the property more than three months. This ordinance will make it almost impossible for me to makeup the unpaid rent and force me to offer free housing. Both Property Owners and tenants need assistance due to the pandemic, but i think its really unfair to us, the small Property Owners like me, to foot the bill on all of this. If the city is expecting small Property Owners to assist the tenants, then they should help me by waving property tax or my mortgage at the same time. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hello, caller . Speaker, please . Oh, hi, is it me . Clerk yes. You have two minutes. Hi. Im seth. Im calling on behalf of a household of six who are affected financially during the pandemic. Im calling in support of the bill that dean preston has sent out. Our landlord hasnt spoken to us in two months, and weve been unable to make payments and will continue to be unable to make payments. Its not only the right choice to be making but the one that will be saving lives. I think putting any cost on human life is abhorrent at this time, and i thank you all supervisors for supporting this bill, and thank you, dean preston, for putting it out. Have a wonderful day. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes to speak. Hi. [inaudible] greatly provide ongoing housing for an indefinite period of time. Obviously, no one wants to be without a home, and that includes me. Im still responsible for the mortgage, expenses, and Everything Else that goes along with this, and i dont have the deep pockets to foot this unless the tenants pay. I have wonderful tenants, and i deeply care for them, but i cannot continue to provide housing if they dont pay. I think you assume that i have unlimited means of making up for other people. I have been in a place where ive had to work three jobs for years during economic crises. I understand the pressure firsthand. Ive had the Life Experience of losing my home during another recession. Callers have said no one should be put out on the street because they cant pay their rent. Tell that to a mortgage lender. Its unfair to assume that landlords have deep pockets. Please dont add this to other landlords who are in my position. Landlords did not create this crisis, either, and you are expecting us to foot a financial bill that many of us cannot sustain. Please consider all our welfare. Please do not support 200375. There has to be a better solution for all of us. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. You will hear that your line has been unmuted. Hello, caller . Next speaker, please. Hello. My name is nancy lang. Ive owned a building in district 5 since 1988, and its a threeunit building, and i also live in district 5. I just wanted to say, you know and i consider myself a momandpop business, but im really just the mom part of it. Theres no pop, and im a senior citizens. One of the issues thats happened to me, of the three units, i have two vacant right now. They just became vacant right before the covid, and im in an age group vulnerable age group. So im basically in a situation where im hearing all this going on, and im concerned about actually even rerenting the two vacant units partly because im concerned about getting other people moving in who wont pay rent. Theyll take advantage of the new law, the new ordinance. Im really on the fence. Ive always been a conscientious landlady. Ive always respected my tenants, and im alarmed at the hostility toward the people who have provided housing. Ive considered it over the years a good thing to do, and ive worked well with people. But in recent years, its becoming more and more difficult because everybody seems to be really hostile and also assuming that youre out to get everything and youre not going to be reasonable, and ive worked with people many, many times, where theyve had a little trouble, and ive worked things out with them. But im automatically considered not worthy of having, you know, any rights to control my building or run what is a tiny business. So any way, i appreciate the opportunity to speak, and i really feel terrible about whats going on for everybody. So, you know, im against it, obviously, so i would hope for other improvements. Thank you. Clerk next speaker, please. Hello, caller. You have two minutes. Next speaker, please. Hello . Clerk oh, hi. You have two minutes to speak. Hello. Im from Housing Rights Committee. I have to say, at housing rights, the phone has been ringing off the hook by tenants who cant pay their rent. People who are scared, people who lost their job during this period or who are sick. Tens of thousands of people cant work now because they are honoring the stayathome order. They are protecting Others Health or their own, and frankly, they wont be able to pay this back, many of them. You cant get blood out of a stone. So the question is for those tenants many tenants are going to pay the money back after this, but many tenants already paid 50 to 70 of their income before this, and the question is, when they dont have the money, you cant get it from a tenant who doesnt have it, and the question is should these thousands of people be evicted . Should these thousands of people be evicted during the pandemic . Weve heard from the small landlords that theyve been able to talk to their mortgage carrier about postponing payments during this pandemic, too, so Small Business owners often call their bank, but were not hearing the majority of these landlords also waiting gleefully for their tenants to not longterm rent controlled tenants to be able to repay this because when you get back to work, if you can get back to work, and youre working that job, youre still not going to be able to pay the rent. We ask everyone to sacrifice right now. We all have to be together in this pandemic. Clerk thank you. Thank you for your comment. [inaudible] clerk we have 144 listeners and 67 people in queue to speak. Again, press starthree if you would like to get get in the queue to speak. If you have already, please continue to wait. Again, we appreciate your patience. You will hear your line has been unmuted, and you will have two minutes to speak thereafter. Resources are underfunded. These kinds of experiences are unavoidable, during a public Health Crisis, that they have no ability to cope. Evicting people during this time would be a direct act of violence and systemic racism. This board should be aware that they will be held responsible for that. I support this legislation. Please hear us. Thats my comment. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Thank you. Im a renter with two children living in a building, and its really hard. My job just got consolidated, and i dont get paid over the summer. The fence is dilapidated, and we dont have any money to fix the fence. It costs us 8500 a month to maintain the building, and i couldnt afford to be on the main floor. I dont think its fair for legislation to leave us out. Well figure it out ourselves, and when we talk about foreclosure, it really means that we have three months to leave the property if we cannot keep up with the payments. We only have three months, and the eviction law here in the city is not mutual, and i think you have to treat us like family and friends, and its not fair when our mortgage and electric and all those Utility Companies wont give us a break. How are we supposed to maintain it all ourselves . Right now, its about 10,000 or 11,000 for property tax, and i have a hard time paying it. And i wish you could just put some of the p. P. P. Money or idea money that you have received from the federal package [inaudible] clerk thank you for your comments. We have 137 siclisteners with in queue. This is your opportunity to speak. My name is kathy lipscomb, and i live in district 8, and ive been a tenant for all of my time in San Francisco, which is over 25 years. As the deadline for the Eviction Moratorium draws near, tenants who cannot pay their rent because of covid are grateful that you have taken a proactive role in this matter. Dean preston and the other cosponsors of the legislation, we dont need another disaster, which is what mass evictions would be. People in unemployment dont need to go through hell with worry over losing their homes. Ideally, small landlords who cant meet their bills should have access to Financial Aid, and im very glad that supervisor preston is moving in this direction. But meanwhile, the landlords and small landlords should be knocking on the doors of the San Francisco Apartment Association and asking them to do something, such as set up a fund to help them immediately. This could happen if theres enough pressure put on them by their members. These people in the association have access to some of the wealthiest people in the city, so i think that would help immensely in the immediate urgency of poor landlords not meeting their bills. This ordinance is a great example of what other cities in the country should be doing. It breaks new ground for human rights. Thank you very much for listening. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next caller, please. Youll hear that your line has been unmuted. Thank you. My name is cynthia, and i am a renter in district 9 and an organizer in district 1. On behalf of Housing Rights Committee and the Tenants Association which represents renters in the richmond and sunset, i am calling to express full support for this legislation. According to recent surveys, a lot of renters actually paid rent in may. Part of why that has happened is a lot of our renters are making really difficult decisions, choosing to pay for rent, even over things like food and medicine. This is not about making your mortgage in the end or not but in surviving this crisis. We know what will happen to tenants after the state of emergency expires without legislation like this, and months of back rent becomes due. They will be evicted unless this legislation passes veto proof. And if you dont pass this bill, you will be choosing to allow a wave of evictions in San Francisco, knowing it will disproportionately affect our most marginalized renters. It doesnt actually stop landlords from getting what they might be owed, it just takes evictions off the table. These landlords are worried about bills . Join us in the movement that cancels rent and mortgages. This is the most important step that San Francisco can take in the fight against displacement during this national emergency. Thank you. Clerk hi. Thank you for your comments. Next caller, please. You have two minutes. Hi. I am in support of this bill. Clerk hello, caller . Because i believe hello . Can you hear me . Clerk yes. I believe the goal of this bill is not simply to provide free housing, but to protect those at greatest risk of homelessness during the pandemic. The plan also includes reparations for tenants who are unable to pay. An increase in homelessness is also a huge threat to Public Safety and leaves those without shelter to contract the covid illness. Instead of worrying about contracting covid19, they should be able to worry about preventative Protection Measures from the virus. The people of San Francisco are not the cause of the pandemic and should not have to worry about eviction or lost jobs. Thank you. Clerk next speaker, please. Good afternoon, supervisors. Ozzie reaume from district 8 speaking on behalf of noe neighborhood council. In the past three months, many of our local and National Leaders have correctly compared this crisis to a war, a war against a deadly pandemic. So heres what id like to say to those disgruntled landlords who spoke in opposition to this ordinance. Were at war, and all you care about is whats owed to you . These tenants didnt choose to go to war. They didnt choose to shelter in place. They didnt choose to not have a paycheck. The government made those choices to save their lives, including the governors who called in earlier in opposition to this including the landlords who called in earlier in opposition to this legislation. Thats why they should protect tenants who have no income through no fault of their own from eviction. I would also like to add that this has made the need for a rental registry even more urgent. If we had a rental urgency, we could have better foreseen the impact of this crisis and could have better planned solutions such as this ordinance. If los angeles could create a rental registry as early as a few years ago, so could we. Time is now for us to stop the paralysis and provide policy to react to this crisis. In a city with 64 tenants, there is no excuse for not knowing where tenants are, so please, supervisor preston, supervisor peskin, and supervisor safai, thank you so much for introducing this measure, and i 100 support it along with noe neighborhood council. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello. You have two minutes to speak. Hello, caller . Next caller, please. [inaudible] i am also a renter in d10. [inaudible] clerk thank you. We have 136 listeners with 58 in queue. Next speaker, please. Hello. My name is andrea danger. Im a finance manager, and i live in the mission in San Francisco. Ive been here 28 years. Im calling in strong support of this measure. Im a renter. I would say that 25 of the people in my building, weve been talking about organizing. About 50 of our building is unemployed. As a finance manager, i just want to point out that the landlord investment model hinges on the fact that youll be able to meet your mortgage. So to the landlords talking about recovering represent, youre being heartless in a recovering rent, youre being heartless in a way that im not sure you understand. Fob landlords and investors, financial balance is something that you plan out. Its profitandloss statements. Its real, but its not going to put you out on the street and maybe kill you, especially if youre like one of the black and brown families left in San Francisco. [inaudible] between living in a car or living on a street or moving out to tracy and commuting into the Community Like people that i know. T this is legislation to try to help people through this crisis; this is a step. I just thank you to the board of supervisors and thank you for hearing our plea. Thank you for keeping us safe so we can figure this out together. Thank you very much. Clerk thank you, caller. You have two minute to speak, and two minutes to speak, and youll hear that your line has been unmuted . Has my line been unmuted . [inaudible] my name is steven crest mulverson, and i own a 500 unit building. Like many other Small Business owners, im hurting. Were at a deep moment in our country where the most vulnerable among us are under attack. By the most vulnerable, i refer to landlords and other people who own property and make money off that property. We all know that poem that starts with, first they came for the landlords, and i said nothing because i wasnt a landlord. This legislation would divert landlords attention from the important tasks of property management, namely requests for maintenances, and deciding arbitrarily whether people should own or not own pets. I urge you to listen to the landlords who are speaking in opposition to this measure and not to the many people who are facing difficulties in this situation. I urge you to side with the landlords and not the people by voting no on this measure. Thank you. Clerk thank you. We have 132 listeners with 62 in queue. Thank you. Next speaker. Hello, caller . Hello . Clerk hi. You have two minutes. Okay. Hello. My name is emily, and i work in the south of Market Community action network, and i strongly support this ordinance. I am also a renter in San Francisco thats facing the staple struggles, and i can always tell so much of what my family is going through. Even before this pandemic, renters in San Francisco were already struggling to make ends meet. We were having difficult times finding ways to cover expenses, and some of us are still working in the middle of all of this, which is a high risk that were willing to take, and you know, the risk goes on. These are just a few examples of a situation that we did not ask for. For us, eviction will lead to homelessness and put us at a higher risk of getting sick. If you are against this ordinance, the question for you is why do you choose to make policies and take advantage of a deadly Global Pandemic that already killed thousands of peop people . For the privileged mom and pop landlords, were not saying you dont matter, but your focus should be on the most vulnerable in your community right now. You can always put that money payment in your pockets once things get better, but you cant bring back a human life who suffered from covid19 because you decided to take away our housing rights in the middle of an ongoing pandemic. In rough times like this, we all deserve better. We want your compassion, empathy, and we definitely need genuine support. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hi. This is gabe gothman, and im a resident in district 2. Thank you, supervisor preston, for your legislation. I think its the least we can do to help the most vulnerable during this time. I think landlords are being a little miopic here. Evictions will lead to further unrest and decreases in property value. I do work with finance, and its not a job to own a building or property. Its a source of income for some people, but its an investment, so youre not even providing a good or service, really, youre just making money off of your own money that you invested in a building, and so if youre having trouble making money because just of a small delay in payment with an entering of a megacrisis much worse, quite frankly, than the great depression, there are other things you can invest in. You can sell your property really at no cost, and you can recoup probably hundreds if not millions of dollars from the sale of your property, and then, you can invest in bonds that are tax free. Some of them, for example, you can get from municipalities here in california, and that way, you dont have to worry about covering your incentives or worrying about maintenance or other things related to a billing. But if you dont want to sell your property, should you have some compassion to people that could live on the street and, you know, have nowhere to go. And especially, someone mentioned children earlier. Its devastating for incredibly young people to be sent out to be homeless and to not have somewhere to live. Clerk thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hi. Can you hear me . Clerk yes. Yes. Hi. My name is sylvia. I am a Property Owner, but im also i own two units, and after that speaker, i just want to let you know, we all live in an ecosystem, and rules like this can have really devastating unintended consequences. I i want to make sure everybodys safe. I actually love my tenants, but my tenants make more money than i do. I have to take Mortgage Applications all the time when i see people in rent controlled apartments that own units, and in fact both my tenants own other properties. But you know what . Weve got to concentrate on whats happening with covid, but some of the comments that have come here, really, they dont understand financing. You know, freddy and fannie flooded the market, and then, anybody that wanted a loan could get a great rate. If youre high balance, which is this part of the country, you cant get cash out or very, very, very expensive. You own a property thats free and clear for 1. 2 million, and baby, you better be ready to pay 15,000 to take any money out of that. All i can say is the infrastructure im afraid for the infrastructure of california. I think that supervisors should take a cut. It should come from the city. Weve got to help the tenants. Lets get their rents paid, but to go after 88yearold women, which, you know, is my mother, whos a landlord, who can barely walk, and then have tenants who make her take out the garbage, you cant say anything to them, thats the positions were in. So i think landlords are very afraid. You know, i want to be compassate, but i just think this is the wrong way to go about it. I think its a lie, and i dont have 600 for a lawyer, or the tenants are the lawyer, and thats what they charge. Every time you go to the rental board, they go, go find a lawyer or find somebody who mak lawyer to fight somebody who makes more money than you. Weve got to figure out a way to help people pay their rent. My suggestion is why dont you try low interest loans . In hawaii, they introduced the mongoose to get the rat . The mongoose was killed, and the rat got the relief. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, youll have two minutes. First, i want to talk about a legislation that must be passed. This is a complete no brainer from a practical and moral standpoint. A bunch of evictions are coming, and we cannot afford to throw a bunch of people in the middle of the street during a Global Pandemic, full stop. Not only is it completely immoral, its going to produce huge costs, both financial and to the landlords, grow up. You guys are babies. Grow up and stop being such sociopaths. Not only did dean describe that youre going to get some relief that you dont deserve, it just stops you from evicting, which is a gross thing to do, any way. If you have that much problem, youre awful at running your business, and you should stop doing it. If you cant budget for a few months of potential lost revenue and operating costs, then youre bad at business and you should get out of the game and sell to your renters or something. If you want to make yourself whole, stop glomming onto the right to evict tenants during a Global Pandemic, and stop evicting people out of their right of a place to live and get a real job. Thanks. I yield my time. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Ner next speaker, please . We have 148 listening with 48 to speak. Hi. My name is robert, and i live in district 5. Im very happy to see this bill from supervisor preston. I think this is the kind of leadership that i want to see from think elected representative. I think its ridiculous that landlords can say that they need every single month of rent in order to be made whole. I mean, if you are really so strapped for cash, you can always sell your building, which is probably worth a few Million Dollars, and i imagine that would put some pennies in your piggy bank at least. If you are a 90yearold person, and you want to evict people, i think thats probably really a mark of who you are. If you want to evict tenants, you probably should not be a landlord. You should probably sell to someone who wants to take care of your tenants and do the job properly. It shouldnt even be the case that landlords can make money by not having a job. Its its crazy that this is the world we live in. Its crazy that its crazier that since 2012, San Franciscos real estate has gained 280 billion in value. Thats over 300,000 per resident, and its not going to every single resident in San Francisco, its only going to people who own property, so i think this is the the tiniest ask that we can give to landlords, asking them not to evict tenants when their land is increasing billions of dollars each decade. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Again, public caller number is area code 4156550001. Thats 4156550001. The access code to join is 1454836716. Press pound, and pound again. Thats 1454836716. Press pound, and pound again. Press starthree to lineup for Public Comment. Itll take you have raised your itll indicate you have lined up for Public Comment. When your line is unmuted, you will hear your line is unmuted and youll have two minutes to speak. Thank you. Next caller, please. [please stand by] they have to pay profit tax and they work hard to get their house and support us. They have a house and im enjoying my life and i will continue living in this house and i will pay my landlord and i dont support the district 5 proposal for the 237 indiscernible . The proposal from the district. Im appalled by the comments by landlords and this is once again pitting tenants against the landlord expose they should be working together. Thats what i try to do with my tentants. This will make it difficult as a property opener to try to keep up with the maintenance cost, the utilities, the property taxes and my own mortgage on my house. And i understand that a lot of people think, well, ok, if you have been a landlord for all of this time and you cant make a go of it if people dont pay their rent for awhile, then i should get out of the business. And i guess thats probably what will have to happen under these circumstances. I dont tend to evict anyone but foreclosures of these properties will also cause a huge displacement of tenants and they will not be evicted by me but by moneygrabbers who will come in and swoop these buildings up and they wont be good landlords. Thank you for your comment, next speaker, please. We have 135 listeners with 55 in queue. Hello, caller . You have two minutes. Hello, ok, thank you very much. Hi, supervisors. Good afternoon. Im a resident of district 5 and first, i just want to thank you for all of your leadership during this time of crisis and in particular, i would like to thank supervisor preston whose leadership has been truly extraordinary. Im calling you to urge you to unequivocally pass this legislation. The covid19 pandemic is an unprecedented human tragedy that will have devastating impact on our city and the rest of the word for the foreseeable future and people with disabilities, people who are black, indigenous and who people of colror are disproportionately affected. These communities are vulnerable to housing and security and further loss of wealth during the pandemic, given the dispro fortudisproportionate losses ane Racial Disparities in the security pandemic. Even before covid19, the pandemic struck, many people in San Francisco struggled to pay their housing costs, utility bills, food costs and afford medical care. Economic hardship result hardshm the pandemic falls on people of color and indigenous, especially our latina community, people with disabilities and, again, families with children. The covid19 pandemic has exposed a structural inequality throughout San Francisco and the United States. Roughly 568,000 people experienced homeless last year in the u. S. And black people make up 40 of that total. Despite being only 13 of overall population. Of particular concern, people who are undocumented. Please do everything you can thank you so much for your comment. Next speaker, please. Your line has been unmuted. Hello. My name is sam judge and im a renters in district one. No one should lose their housing due to a pandemic. We shouldnt be placing people in vulnerable situations in a Global Pandemic. Thank you for your time. Im chelsea merick and im speaking on behalf of myself and mmy colleagues. Were a nonprofit legal service. Were also district 9 renters and strongly support this legislation. Nothis pandemic has affected everyone. No one should become homeless because of it but that is what will happen if we continue to threaten renters with eviction for an economic crisis out of their control. Supervisor pretsons proposal was necessary to keep San Francisco residents housed not only through covid but in the wake of it. Next week, your line has been unmuted and you will have two minutes to speak. Majority of the people i work with and some rely on help for work and its not enough. We support this legislation because we know that its needed in this city that is very expensive and we cannot afford any more families to be on streets because they cant afford rent, not because they dont want to pay but theres to work and no set date to go back to work. It just takes eviction off the were able and this is the most important step they can take after the state of emergency. Thank you. Thank you, next speaker. Youll have two minutes to speak. Hi, you have two minutes. Ok. Thank you. I saw a pos indies indiscernibl. PrompProperty Owners and the Property Owners need the income to support themselves and maintain their property. They avoid paying any rent, even if they are able to. indiscernible . Please do not sacrifice the small Property Owner. We cannot take any more. Thank you for your comments and next speaker please. Youll hear that your line has been unmuted. Hello . Hi. This is lynn and we own a small hello . Ready . Yes. Im lynn and we own a small twounit property in the Mission District and i urge the supervisors to pause on this legislation, which is extremely onesided and wait until you have determined the appropriate protection for the landlord. We cant go get another job and this unit is our income. By having to forgive rent and not be able to collect rent for the foreseeable future, because there is no timing that we know that the covid crisis will be over, i wont be able to pay my husbands medical bills for his Cancer Treatment and the maintenance expect utilities and the property taxes associated with our unit. And i think that this legislation is great if youre a tenant and can devastate you financially if youre a landlord. And our family has worked extremely hard in order to have a building that would give us income during our retirement years. Were both high risk and cannot get another job. So i urge the supervisors to step back and come up with a much more bad legislation that has a deadline in it and timelines so we dont have something completely openended which means i may not have any income for the foreseeable future. Thank you for your time. We have 13 139 listeners with 4n queue. Next speaker, please. Hi. Im a San Francisco native and other than of an older fourunit Apartment Building built by my immigrant grandfather and its been in my family for generations. Its my understanding the city does not have Legal Authority to permanently restrict a landlords ability to recover rent due. That said, i am fe fervently against this ordinance. Small businesses are trying to survive and trying to continue the legacy. I am not rich and i take offense to so many people that have spoken today saying were all rich. Small Property Owners are victims and its not favour to carry the burden because no one is helping us pay expenses we incur on a daily basis, paying tenants and security deposits, not to mention attorneys fees, just to name a few. Im working with my tenants who cant pay their rent but im worried how ill pay my pastdue bills if they dont pay me back. The city isnt helping me pay my pastdue bills. Its not fair to put the burden on us once again. Dont meddle until you can help. This will be lost if you pass an unrealistic and unfair ordinance. Thank you. Thank you for your comment and next speaker please. Theres 43 in queue. Hello, caller . You have two minutes. Hi. Sorry. Thanks for giving us time to speak today. I strongly support the eviction protection ordinance. Im a renter in district 5 and a paraillegal at Legal Systems for the ederly an ederly. The Economic Impact of the pandemic will be so much longer than six month. We cant expect tenants who have lost income because of the pandemic to repay thousands of dollars in backrent just six months after the emergency is lifted. This proposed ordinance is not only going to help protect much of San Francisco from displacement but also all of San Franciscos eviction nonprofit which will undoubtedly be overwhelmed by the impending eviction cases. Its important that we pass this ordinance to prevent a surge in evictions and displacement. Thank you for listening and proposing this, supervisor peskin. Thank you, next speaker please. You have two minutes. Hello. Can you hear me. Yes, you have two minutes. Hi. So my name has been in the bay area since the 60s. Ive worked in San Francisco since i was younger and im here to say its imperative that we ensure the most vulnerable populations are given shelter, especially during this time. Landlords and San Francisco have georgenjoyed skyrocketing for te last ten years and its completely unfair to expect the people who have these landlords make their money off of to, you know, buil build out an investmt theyve made in an incredibly lucrative field. This ordinance needs to pass because the way covid affects our population i is preportion yachtlpreportionately harsh andt forgiving rent and making ten cents backpay rent would be exacerbating the crisis and it would be cruel and harsh. This doesnt make sense to commute the crisis further by, basically, flailing out landlords instead of tenants. It will cause unnecessary death and suffering if we dont relieve these tenants. I yield my time. Hello, caller . You have two minutes to speak. I think i already spoke. Oh, great. Well move on to the next carol, thank you for letting us know. Googood afternoon. Im susan marsh and a tenant of district 6. Im here to urge you to pass this legislation. As many should have been clued by now, without this legislation we will have a massive wave of evictions with homelessness and the massive suffering, the massive uprooting of community and the amplification of the covid19 pandemic that will come. indiscernible . Many, many tenants will not be able to pay, particularly those who have already been paying 50 to 70 of their income and who are among the most vulnerable tenants in San Francisco. By the same token and even by the appalling suffering that many landlords are exhibiting, here in focusing on their right to be made whole, their right to collect the rent, no matter what, the ironic thing is that for the same reason we will have this eviction, that legislation does not pass the evictions they are seeking to Carry Forward by defeating this legislation will not enable them to collect that rent. Theyll have a far better chance under this legislation than without it. The important thing is to present the application of the covid19 eviction. The amount of suffering that comes from the displacement in the uprooting of tenants and that is the important thing and i urge you in the strongest pass terms to pass this legislation. Thank you. Thank you for your comment. To those who need interpretation, we are losing our staff support. Hes booked for another meeting, we apologize. And so, moving on to the next caller. We have 42 in queue. Hi there, my name is monique. Can you hear me . Yes. I live in district 5 and im calling in support of the ordinance to prevent evictions. I believe there are already enough homes in San Francisco for everyone. Theres no reason everyone should be homeless and that landlords are hoarding homes and continue doing to do. Do so. Call 415 6550001 for callin and the access code is 145 4836716, press pound and pound again and to be added to the queue, press star 3. For the folks on hold, we appreciate your patience and will get to you soon. Youll have two minutes to speak. The next caller, please. There are many people at risk of eviction due to this Global Pandemic and im calling in for them. This is the most that could place mass displacement of residents in our city. And nobody should fear homelessness in the wake of a Global Pandemic. Thank you. I yield the rest of my time. Hello, caller . You have two minutes. Ok, this is unconstitutional. Covid19 does not discriminate whether you are a landlord or tenant. You are blaming the landlord and making the landlord responsible for this pandemic. Proof of the income, even receiving edd per week 1,000, 8,000 per month but do not pay the rent. You are allowing them to do that. With this bill passed, they should pay rent and why should they . They shoulthey should not look r solutions and not abide by the mutual agreements to leech on the society so the supervisor becomes heroes to the tenants. Number five, the bill is forcing the landlords to file in supreme court. You district 5 supervisor knows better that anyone that money will not get recovered from the Small Claims Court because they have go through a Legal Process to get their own money back and this is a lie to the public and ther. Number six, San Francisco s spent 364 million on taxpayers money to help Homeless People and the Budget Committee is not managing the money appropriately, but its not the fault of the landlords. No wonder the state has 450 billion. Shame on those who talk about the right thing do. Theyre teaching our kids not to take responsibilities on their lives and that is ok not to keep promises and to be a loop on the society. Number seven, if the tenant think they have the right thank you for your comment. Next speaker, please. Youll hear your line has been unmuted. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Again, youll hear your line has been unmuted and you have two minutes to speak. Good afternoon. This is jean, a San Francisco native, longtime tenant in district 11. Please vote yes and i support this legislation sponsored by supervisor dean preston. How can tenants continue to shelter in place if they can not pay rent. Prior to covid19, many renters in San Francisco were struggling to make ends meet and many were employed and underemployed. Not every tenant has the privilege to pay back months of unpaid rent. They need to be more compassionate to tenants. I have clients laid off as a result of covid19 and relied on the Eviction Moratorium for being misplaced. This is vital regardless if theyre under rent control, we must prevent vulnerable populations such as seniors, lowincome and working class families from being evicted. This is the most crucial step in San Francisco to stop displacement and evictions at the state of emergency. Say yes and prevent the further displacement of further tenants in sanfrancisco. Thank you for your comments. If you wish to speak, press star 3. You will be unmuted when it is your turn to speak and next caller, please, two minutes. Hello, supervisors. This is ken tray, representing the united educators of San Francisco, the over 6,000 teachers and school staff who work in our schools everyday. This thursday, uesf is hosting an emergency town hall on how the pandemic, the crisis of the pandemic is going to affect the work of educators and the lives of our students. Its clear to educators that the last thing that our students who are now suffering through the pandemic need is to be put in a situation of housing insecurity and potentially homelessness due to the economic duress of the pandemic. So when educators get together this thursday, theyll be brainstorming ways to help our students get through this both economic and Health Crisis. On top of this, we also recognise that the students most vulnerable to the pain and suffering of the pandemic and the economic insecurity are a te black and brown students. While were marching in the streets to find justice for george floyd and to make sure that black lives matter, the least we can do is to provide housing security to our most vulnerable students. We enthusiastically endorse supervisor prestons legislation and we open that the board of supervisors follows suit. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll hear your line is unbeautied anunmuted and youo minutes to speak. Im a district 7 resident and a San Francisco native in favour of helping landlords and tenants Work Together. Most landlords are good and most tenants are good. We have to make sure the majority are not penalized for the minority. I do noii have worked with tenao set up a payment plan on casebycase victims. They have committed to damage. Wilthe first step is forebearane when appropriate. Not all hardships are the same and not all are in the same financial position. So are capable of paying rent and not every landlord is in the position to shoulder that burden. During the shutdown, although its tough for everyone, renters still enjoy the apartment and landlords have to pay the bills and dont forgive on their obligations. Not all landlords are wealthy and some live on that money and need it month to month. What are the suggestions . Put in place a meins testing. Landlords need to have a way to get it back if and when its time to collect. Thank you for your Time Partnership appreciate it. Hello, can you hear me . I live in district 5 and im in support of dean prestons bill. We need to protect our renters. I have a good renned tha friends in San Francisco. He got laid off due to covid19 and hes not able to pay his rent for the next three month. I communicate with him and hes terrified of losing his rentcontrolled apartment hes been in for 15 years and for the moneygrubbing hungry landlords that want to evict these people, its ridiculous. We need to make sure they dont evict. Shame on you if you dont and we will vote you out of office. Im in support of this and thank you so much for district 5 and i wasnt a big supporter of dean preston but im hoping hes pushing this through and thank you so much. Thank you to for your commen. Next speaker. Youll have two minutes. Hello, caller . We have workers struggling to feed their families and pay rent and many airport workers who work two or three jobs struggling to get by on unemployment which is not enough to afford that high cost of ren. Rent. We have many who dont qualify and when this crisis is over, workers wont be able to pay back month and months of rents, even when they get wanting to b. Thank you. Thank you, next speaker, please. indiscernible . This is a reasonable proposal and i think theres a lot of information promoted to individual Property Owners, perhaps by people who testified by earlier. Lets be clear, they did not refuse payment of rent. This is not an invitation to not pay rent. This requires establishing substantial loss as a result of the emergency. It doesnt prevent tenants and owners to make an amicable plan. This is only about evicting tenants who dont have the means to pay. They need to Work Together with supervisor preston to pass a programme to help address your needs. indiscernible . Thank you for your comments and we have 113 listeners with 33 in queue. Next speaker, please. My husband and i are small Property Owners of a twoproperty house, a neighborhood we love for friendly neighbors and hardworking citizens. We both work and rely on the rent we get to pay our bills. Currently my tenant lost his job and we are working together as we figure out a way to keep ourselves financially afloat. Without recourse to collect the rent in the months ahead, we will be unable to pay mortgages, property taxes which will put the house we provide in jeopardy. If hes allowed to stay in the apartment longer without my ability to recoupe payment, it will impact my finances and likely cause us to have to sell our property causing hardship to both us and our tenant. Please vote for 200375. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes and youll hear your line has been unmuted. Am i able to be heard . Yes, you have two minutes. Thank you so much. Im a resident of district 8 and i have the incredible privilege of living in a home that was bit by my great grandfather. I am a disabled person and im not able to work a traditional job and so ive seen this impossible privilege as my way to give back to my San Francisco community by maintaining these buildings and taking care of the properties. And i want to urge everyone who is listening and the supervisors to remember that there are two types of landlords in this city. There are mean live in the city, often living in the homes they are taking care of and who are essential to providing the service of property management. Specifically, that is the job of the landlord. There are landlords who own buildings who are not owned by a Single Person but owned by conglomerates and investors. These people do not care about their buildings and their neighborhood. And they are not subject to rent control. That is the most vital and glaring issue. And i think to protect diversity in the city and to protect buildings that have people who own the building and people renting and work out things together and have amicable relationships and to support the smaller renters, we dont want to replace, quote, mom and pop shops with giant groups of investors who do not care about the city and have the resources for tonights of lawyers to make sure they are not subject to loss protecting tenants and our city like rent control perform. I want to thank everyone who shared because i think its important they listen to each others concerns and see where each other is coming from and most importantly, making sure that the quality of the city and the humans that live here are thank you to for your commen. Next caller, please. You have two minutes. Ive been listening to this phone call for an hour and a half, and so, supervisors, why dont we just indiscernible . They go to 16 of incomes for the landlords. And they didnt put that in. And supervisor really want to help, they take a pay cut of 15 and the landlords can keep two months rent and everybody is happy. Otherwise its just wasting everybodys time. Its not doing any good. I dont think the supervisor has any intention of passing the bill or helping the small indiscernible . If they ca cannot pay their ren, maybe they should rent a smaller place and they cannot get employment, they should look for help. You have two minutes to speak and you may begin. We believe there will be a cruel hoax of renters hit with more rent payments because of the Court Decision rendering it unconstitutional. We know you as a board have been given this opinion and we ask that you consider it. This is also disappointing to hear the demonization of all landlords by many of the participants of this hearing. Most of our community have spent the last month working to help our tenants stay in place, forgiving some and postponing others, but working to keep people where they are. We, too, are people from San Francisco and we love the city as much as anybody else and we want to work to help displaced tenants because of the covid crisis and have been working with a number in your office to do just that. I want to thank show thank those supervisors who have reached out to us and express or concern that the sponsor of this legislation did not bother to reach out and discuss how we could come to some kind of compromise that will hold up in court. And we urge that you consider that alternative. Thank you. Thank you tor you for your c. Youll have two minutes to speak and next caller, please. Your line has been unmuted. Thank you. Im racquel fox. Im a native sanfranciscans, born and raised here and ive seen the displacement of tenants rampant for decades. And now people need to come together and stop further deterioration and homelessness. The people that i represent currently, theres a handful of people thatless their jobs and thethat lost their jobs andtheye cleaners, janitors and some undocumented or unqualified in other areas and they cant go back to work until something changes. Some of them, these people are now in a position that they currently cannot pay the rent and if something is not done to prevent enough eviction, there will be more people homeless, more people infected with the virus thats still rampant in the entire United States and anyone who doesnt believe theres a problem with homelessness, i welcome you to go down hide street writ where e a look out the window at work and i see more and more people there and more and more Homeless People, teac people that need h. I fully support them and i think everyone involved in this, thank you. We have 110 listeners with 30 people in queue. Youll be notified when your line is unmuted. You have two minutes. Im mohen and i would say my heart goes out to all of the tenants who are affected by the covid19, but i hope the tenants also think about the difficulty that the landlords are facing. Im a landlord in San Francisco and im against the proposed policy. This is something we have all suffered during the covid19. We have worried that if we are laid off, we will suffer like the tenants. There is all different kinds of help for them. We can delay payment. However, landlords are not exempt from paying mortgage and prompt tax, not to mention the utilities. How do you expect them to pay all of these when we cannot pay rent . indiscernible . Please consider a way to help landlords. This goes hand in hand and should responsible to help all equally. This could put the burden on the landlords who have suffered huge financial distress during this kuhn. Kuhn. Covid19. If we cant pay property tax and mortgage, we will lose our property, too. It may take years and years to collect the debt. The landlord should step in and help tenants during these tough times. Thank you so much. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hello. Hi. I live and work in San Francisco in district 11 and im with the unfair housing legislation with over 3500 members and im calling on behalf of the 1100 people who have signed letters in opposition of this bill, many who are immigrants and unable to call in. I oppose this and implore you to say no. A lot of people have said that Property Owners have making a ton of monies and its often enough to just coverage maintenance. You hear about forebearance programmes but that doesnt mean the mortgage is forgiven. The money is still owed and due to the beijin bank. If a Property Owner does not receive rent, the Property Owner may not be able to pay the mortgage and this will lead to foreclosure and bankruptcy. As a Property Owner, i am working with my tenants unable to pay. Everyone needs help but not just on the backs of Property Owners. There should be a fund the tenants can access to pay the rent. This needs to be more balanced and the government can reimburse the lost income or the city should stop charging Property Owners property tax and get banks to forgive our mortgage. This will prevent Property Owners from losing their home. I urge you to oppose 20075, the preston conviction bill, thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker. We have 111 listeners with 30 in cue. Queue. Hello, caller. Im teresa wall and im opposing this bill. A lot of tenants will informed they would be convicted after the covid orders but the rent was due after six months after the order was expired. In general general eviction cast takes one year. So many would call in and why are they are not informing the tenants it will take up to one year . I was just receiving a letter this morning and my rent is onethird of the mortgage. indiscernible . Preston, youve done nothing about this. How dare some of you saying the owner was not good at their business. The owner was being able to pay for their down payment and caused generations of saving. The housing is not only the human right to tenant. This is to the landlord and everybody have to go to work. I am a 1099 person working at the court. indiscernible . I wont pay the upcoming tax. This will be a longer time than anyone to get my job back. Please, do not just think about yourself. Think about all of the small Property Owners. We sell the house, but even we sell the house we are the housing protecter and the protecter for most of the tenants. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Two minutes and youll be notified your life is unmuted and you may begin. I am an accountant and have been a resident of San Francisco and renter for 37 years here in north beach. Im calling to express my View Opposing this legislation about the ordinance 200375. I think this ordinance penalizes the landlord for this pandemic, not all of the landlords have deep pockets. So are some business operators. I personally know three landlords who are elderly widows and collecting their rent for livelihood and to maintain their property. They do not own the property outright and so they have to pay their mortgage. If the landlord does not pay the mortgage, she will lose her own house and their own livelihood. If the tenant does not have to pay the rent during this pandemic, the landlord still have to come up with the money for the mortgage, for the property taxes and utilities and where that come from if the landlord is not paid . They depend on their rent and some people that have called say they can collect back rent after this pandemic is over but if this pandemic will last more than one years as suspected, the loors anlandlords and the tenand be evicted together. The banks will foreclose on the landlords. Thank you very much for your time. Have a good day. Thank you. Next speaker, please, two minutes. Can you hear me . Im jose, a renter in district 8 and im speaking in support of this measure. San francisco politicians left to tout themselves as champions of progressive action and as we face the greatest Economic Disaster in history, now is the time for drastic and compassionate action. I have heard many landlords speak to the unintended consequences of this ordinance but none of us know for certain what the socalled unintended consequences will look like. We know what mass evictions will look like. It will look like more squaller and devastation on our streets and erasure of our black and brown communities and people who are barely making ends meet. We are all feeling the devastation of covid19 and landlords are not exempt because of their wealth. Buying a home to rent is an investment and investments come with risk. We have heard from socalled mom and pop landlords who believe they will fail into unrecoverable financial ruin if they are unable to collect rent. They are forget this forcibly removes then from their home through no fault of their home. Lets not forget the multidollars hedge funds are the biggest landlords in the bay area. 10,000 of backrent or whatever the case is nothing to the predatory investors or even to the owner of a single Million Dollars house but an insurmountable economic burden for some people. Now, in this climate, where theyre advocating the stop violence against black and brown people, we must remember eviction is violence. Forcibly removing people from homes is violence and black and brown people will be the victim. Vote yes on to proposal. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker. Caller, you have two minutes. Hello, is there someone on the line . speaking Foreign Language . Thank you, caller, unfortunately our interpreter for spanish had to leave 30 minutes ago and we dont have anybody to interpret those comments but we appreciate them. Next caller. You can hear me . Yes, please proceed. Im a small landlord in district 2, 5 and 8, 40 years, business other than and employer citywide and 40 year resident of district 8. As a tenant while complying with San Francisco softstory requirements, im not pro eventingioeviction, im opposeds bill. This has caused a financial crisis for all citizens. The community embraced consequences with a slogan and attitude. As employers and landlords we have kept employees to the payroll working out goodwill concession with tenants. This mirrors the position of every landlord we represent. The mutual good will was not mandated by the government. When the government pulls together, we allow supply and demand to find balance and equilibrium. There are higher vacancies and rental rates are decreasing upwards of 25 . The community will find solutions if you let them. Landlords and tenants need each other. This proposal makes the assumption that only tenants are impacted by covid19. It is wrong for our mutually elected supervisor to consider a law that addresses only a fraction of its constituents and not all. You have making the assumption the Property Owners have deep pockets and unless you propose legislation to address mortgage payments, insurance, homeowner, dues, maintenance repairs, property taxes and Property Owners income, this law will not serve all constituents unless relief is provided to landlords as part of this proposal and not by a separate legislation. Where does your ordinance address small Property Owners from foreclosure . Theyre showing most tenants are receiving Financial Aid related to covid19 and amounts that are greater or equal to the earnings prior to covid19 and have been able to pay rent as agreed. Approximately 5 of tenants have received forebearances and rent furloughs. Next caller, two minutes. Hi, i am a shaw small landloa mom and pop organization if district 10 and i oppose this. I have been opposed to the humanity behind it and i do think that were on the right track. People should not be evicted and families not thrown on the street, especially underserved. But this particular legislation is putting the landlord against the tenant and i dont want to go after a tenant and garnish their wages for however long. The government is usurping and expecting us to be a bank and government. Theres got to be a middle ground and i really hope that we Work Together for the humanity of everybody. Mine, landlords are not bad guys. Some of them are, but majority of the people youre hearing from are people who are scared to death of losing their house. Dont make us the bad guy. Work together as a community to make sure people arent evicted, that landlords dont lose their houses and that we can Work Together as a community. So i just hope you consider that landlords dont have the deep pockets most tenant advocates think they do and the truth of the matter is, people should not be evicted, so please find a better solution but lets find a solution because nobody wants to see people on the streets. I personally couldnt sleep at night but at the same time, this whole conversations frightens me to think i could lose my house because they dont want to pay rent any more. Thank you, speaker. Next caller, two minutes. Im lou and i am opposed to prestons ordinance because it is unreasonable. If the tenants reduce their income due to covid19 or lost their job, that is not the homeowners responsibility but the governments responsibility. If the homeowner has to bear the responsibility, then the government, in turn, should assume the homeowners responsibility government should assume for the losses that the homeowner will have to bear. In other words, the government is to be responsible for the homeowners bank loan payment, mortgages, land taxes and utility bills. Or cancel them all together. And, also, help homeowners pay for home insurance. We homeowners are providing a service to tenants and we have to pay for the house were living in. We have, out of the goodness of our hearts, to rent our rooms out to tenants. If the tenants cannot pay, how are we going to pay for the house that were legitimate them rent . That would be the reasonable thing. So the tenants have the right to rent rooms, but what about the homeowners right to live in their house . Where is the fairness in that . Thank you for your comment. Comments. Next speaker, please. You have two minutes to speak. Next speaker, please. Hello, you have two minutes to speak. Hi. Can you hear me . Yes. Thank you, supervisors. I strongly support this ordinance. I moved to the city over three years ago to attend sanfrancisco State University and have since been in district 4 is currently road in district 6. Im a board member and a member of gsa. I have had the privilege to remain employed during this pandemic and, unfortunately, my seven other roommates have not. As of now, we owe 24,000 in backrent. Thankfulfully our landlord is sympathetic to the situation. He isnt rich by any means and thankfully, he seiz sees the cut crisis as tenant and landlord issue. We are not divided. I carry about the city and constituents and to me, it does not matter if they are renters, homeowners or landlords. We need to protect everyone regardless and i know that supervisor prestons proposed ordinance is a step in the right direction. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. You have two minutes. Next speaker, please. You have two minutes to speak. Hi. My name is sarah didnt i live in the district 4 as a renter. And i oppose this legislation. I believe as many people have said, its partial and i do not support eviction. However, its also just now equitable. Like, when i had to get government cheese and food stamps as a child, the government supported us to have food, also a human right. But it also paid the store owners and at the same time they provided the service. And i think that if we can come up with a legislation where the burden is taken by the entire community, via the government, with some sort of program like that, it could be acceptable. But as written, it m negates the rights for some and so, i really hope that we can find a better solution, not evict people and not put an unfair burden on owners. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Again, the caller number is 415 6550001 and the access code is 145 4836716. Press pound and pound to join. Youll need to press star 3 to be added to the queue to speak and youll be notified that your hand is rised and muted until we call on you and you will be prompted that your line will be unmuted and youll be ready to speak. Thank you. Hi, supervisors. I urge to reconsider this legislation. Im a native person in San Francisco, a district 3 resident and homeowner. Im also on the board of the San Francisco Apartment Association. My family owns 35 apartments in San Francisco. Six apartments with covid deferred residents. Evacuee all been through a lot these last ten weeks and none of us are responsible for the pandemic, not even Property Owners. Youre asking a certain sector of the city to pay for this. If the city thinks the rent should be forgiven, deferred, turned into Consumer Debt, the city should find a way to pay the rent or take on the financial burden. The San Francisco Water Department is not waiving any of my water bill. The Elevator Service bill arent saying, skip a few monthly bills and well provide service even if you dont pay. The Tax Collector only deferred property tax for 30 days. Housing is not free. The bills are due whether or not tenants pay rent. You say the bill will turn the deferred rent into Consumer Debt if a Property Owner goes to court next fall and then the Property Owners will get paid. Consumer debt that goes to collection through Court Judgment has an average collection rate of just 20 . This is not an equitable solution. What about contract law . You have the right to do this . San jose voted down similar legislation, as did the colorado legislation. Oregon has given a 12month Repayment Period after the emergency is lifted which is a much better proposal. Wouldnt it be more reasonable to have a way for tenants and Property Owners to Work Together on repayment plans. I ago tha agree eviction is note answer. Were a co compassionate city bt this is not the solution. Next caller, please. Hello. Im a San Francisco resident and i am a Property Owner that is in hear for my grandmother who worked as a janitoress who worked for 32 years to my my lie house. I was pushed out and i cannot financially assume responsibility for adult people and take on their financial burdens. Its unfair and not the right answer and absolutely an extreme answer that is very one sided. I dont agree with it and i do not believe that the supervisor sitting there proposing these items would take on the burden themselves. Its definitely not something that i believe is anyones responsibility to take over someone elses financial responsibility. Why would we be responsible for all of their financial debt . Its not fair. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hi. Im tory and im a tenant in the sunset and im calling in full support of this ordinance. I am not at risk for eviction and understand this is a privilege that so many do not have at this time. Like many others have said before, this will be instrumental in protecting tenants from eviction. Its wholly necessary, especially since it affects low income, people of colour and documented and disabled folks. This can be a death circumstance under these circumstances. I urge you to pass legislations in order to protect those most impacted by the community. Thank you. Thank you, next speaker, please. Hi. My name is pauline marshall. Im a formal member of the Housing Alliance and i support this. It is a rational and smart followup to the moratorium and. Thank you and please vote for the legislation. Thank you, for your comment and next speaker, please. Again, youll have two minutes and prompted your line has been unmuted and you may begin. Hi. I am a single woman, sole proprietor, first generation San Francisco, and i have been making a living for the last 15 years managing an airbnb and have had low business since march and continues has no one is buying or traveling. Im at 5 occupancy for the units i manage and if my guests do not pay rent, i cannot pay the mortgage and i will lose my mortgage. To ithere is hud or the governmt can take my property by imminent toe main and give it away for free to whomever they want. I bought my property in 1989 and they changed it. I had to reinvent my rental into a shortterm rental to stay away from rent control. My Retirement Plan is all real estate and luckily not all in San Francisco. If you want subsidized rent, pay it to the landlord. Now you want to take away our rent . I have no new business and the owners whose properties i message are hurting, trying to pay mortgage to properties while renters eat like kings and the owners have to beg mortgage companiecompanies and they haveg and they continue to pay wifi, landscaping, taxes and more. Please vote no on 200375. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes and youll be notify ed this your line has been un ed. Unmuted. This is becky in district 4. Can you hear me . Hello . Yes, we can hear you. You can begin. Yes, yes. Im a small Property Owner and i strongly oppose no ordinance to 00375. I think, you know, this pandemic is affecting everyone, not only tenants, but everybody, tenants and landlords. So the policy should be more balance so there is so the landlord can pay the mortgage. There are property taxes also quite a lot. And so this i i strongly opposet i hope the supervisor can come up with a more balancing idea. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Two minutes. My name is carol and i am a thirdgeneration Property Owner in district 3. My grandparents bought the Building Back in the 40s. My mother ran it and now the next generation is a caretaking of this property. I am opposed to eviction, and i oppose this bill, 200375. Im not sending in money. My sister is not sending in money. This is her income. If rents are deferred, thats fine, but at some point, the piper has to be paid. Were not running a free house. We have overhead. The city of San Francisco has demanded special Fire Equipment be put into our buildings. We had do a retrofit which has a tremendous loan on our building, which needs to be paid off. These are all things that the rental money goes towards, the overhead, the taxes, the gas electric and the water. Those things are not going to stop. Yes, it would take a substantial number of our tenants to not pay in order to not be able to pay these things but were paying them anything. I have to problem in rental plans, paymentback plans and we have already worked out things with some of our tenants, but this is a business. Evacueweve survived the afforde housing act. We have tenants that have lived in our building for 30 and 40 years still paying rent from that long ago. Its not fair for us to have the burden of supporting speakers time has expired. Thank you for your comment. If you would like to speak press star 3 and for the folks waitig in line, thank you. Youll have two minutes and youll be notified your phone has been unmuted. Hi, im john, a rentener renn district 8. I support this, its essential. I urge the supervisors to act on this to save lives by preventing eviction. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. We have 95 listeners with 25 folks in queue. Next speaker, youll have two minutes to speak. Hello . Can you hear me . Im a lifelong San Francisco resident and ive been a tenant for most of my life. Currently im lucky to be living in a house my mom bought in the 1990s when things were still affordableish. I was evicted my mom and pop landlord to flip our building and im not unfamiliar that evictions do happen and happened before this pandemic. When i hear landlords talking about how theyre not against the evictions, i hear them saying im not against them, but i will do it to you. And so, i think that listening to all of these comments, tenants should be at the center of this conversation. Were having all lives matter and the landlord comments today and its like weve emphasized to protect the most vulnerable members of our community and those who dont open real estate assets and have been told in reply that landlord lives matter. And i think you should read the room, people. I dont want to see anyone evicted, including small homeowners, but im highly suspicious of their landlord narratives being 25 plus years of tenants evicted at every turn. I wonder where they all were when people were displaced. please stand by . Im a resident in district 9. Hello. Can you hear me . Clerk yes, you may begin. Hi, hi, hi. Im annie b. Im a resident of district 9 in the Mission District. Im calling on behalf of myself, my roommate, and my neighbors who do not feel safe enough to push back against tenants rights and for tenants rights. I just want to talk about the simple bottom line that were talking about taking eviction off the table. That will give us time to talk about a solution thats best for tenants and landlords. Its completely psychotic and inhumane to consider putting people out on the street during a Global Pandemic for reasons that they have no control over. I strongly encourage you to pass this bill, and thats it. Thank you so much. Clerk thank you. Next caller, please. Youll have two minutes. Hello, caller . Hello, caller . Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Hello . Clerk hi. You have two minutes to speak. Hello. I am a resident of San Francisco living in district 1 examine would like to express and would like to express my full support of this ordinance. The opposition to this ordinance from landlords we have heard who supposedly oppose eviction demonstrate their lack of integrity to hold their fellow Property Owners accountable to value human life over the finances. I want to make it absolutely clear, the potential life or death situation for these disadvantaged communities is in no way similar to the financial discomfort to the several landlords that we have heard from. Housing is a human right, and i urge you to support this ordinance. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. You have two minutes, and youll be notified that your line has been unmuted. Hello, caller. You have two minutes. Next speaker, please. Hello, caller. You have two minutes. Yes. I am a San Francisco resident and ownermanager of 40 Apartment Units here in San Francisco. And because of covid19, i have five vacancies and im not sure if i should rerent these vacancies because of this ordinance. Thank you for your time. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Youll be notified that your line has been unmuted. Hello, supervisors. My name is chelsea wight, and im a renter who has been impacted by the covid19 emergency. I moved to San Francisco six months ago and because of this unprecedented pandemic, i cannot get out of my lease. I am also being threatened by my property manager that they will be coming after me for money owed once the emergency is lifted. I am now in a position unlike ever before in that i am simply defaulting on my payments because i cannot afford them. I simply will not be able to catch up on my rent. The cost of living in San Francisco was exponential before this crisis, and now i, like many others, are in a position pigeonholing themselves because they cannot afford to live in San Francisco. I do not deserve to have these financial implications because of a pandemic that was out of everyones control. This city needs to focus on caring for its residents and making sure that every person has a roof over their heads and to feel safe in their homes. I strongly ask that you pass this ordinance in solidarity with the publics best interest, not for landlords to continue to take advantage of their tenants. Their position has been clearly stated on this call, working individuals dont matter or referring to tenants as leeches of society. They agreed to take on these costs when they agreed to become landlords, and we as tenants did not bring on covid19, and they need to put Public Opinion over profit. Thank you for your time. Clerk thank you, caller. We have 86 listeners with 12 in queue. Again, press starthree if you have not already, and you will be notified that your hand has been raised to speak in Public Comment. For those still waiting, we appreciate your patience, and well get to your soon. Next caller, please. Youll have two minutes, and youll be prompted that your line has been unmuted. Hello, caller . Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Yes, im here. Good afternoon. My name is robert link, and i am a native san franciscan. I grew up in district 4 and currently reside in district 7. Im a Property Owner and a property manager and responsible for approximately 275 Apartment Units in the, most of which are rent controlled. I am calling today because i am opposed to the ordinance on the grounds that it is overreaching and violates the Governors Office by precluding a landlords ability to recover rent from a tenant through an unlawful detainer process effectively rendering the value down to zero. I think the landlord community sympathizes with hardship that many of our tenants are experiencing right now, and i see, and i feel like many of my colleagues too do, too, see the relationship between landlord and tenant as complementary, and its something that many other callers this afternoon have not displayed. We as a company have responded to a number of hardship requests. I personally have written 25 to 30 forebearance requests for our tenants and commercial tenants, which only about 10 to 15 weve granted rent forgiveness, 25 to 50 for almost all of them, so theres a huge outreach thats being missed, the outreach of the landlord community to the tenants. And i fear that this legislation is overreaching and could cause a bigger problem than what we have now. I think possibly an unintended consequence here, if this happens, people could otherwise withhold payment of rent, thus creating a larger problem clerk thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes to speak. Hi. Well, im here to let the board now that im opposed to the ordinance. First, pandemic is actually affecting everyone one way or other. He believ second, theres so many assistance programs for people that lost their jobs, such as e. D. D. And employment, as well. Second, theres assistance for Small Businesses, but landlords, i have nothing. We can get s. F. Water if we apply for, but landlords do not get a break from paying property taxes. Tenants are already paying under fair market value, but still, the city want to put the burden onto landlords. I dont think this is fair. Some people would say forebearance helps the landlord, but its only temporary. Its not a solution because the landlord still has to payback the interest with a higher rate. And with this action in the courts, it further divides the relationship between tenant and landlord and the landlord has to assume all the burden. And again, this is not the landlords responsibility to make sure everyone has a roof over their head. Tenants have to Work Together to build a relationship, and this is also what we have to do, not dividing them. Again, i ask the board to oppose this argument. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Again, press starthree to be added to the queue. For those waiting, please continue to hold. Next caller, please. Youll have two minutes. Hello. My name is andy, and im calling in enthusiastic support for this legislation. Evictions can mean death in the best of times, and this time of Global Pandemic, evictions will mean death for many people in an unprecedented way, and so this legislation has to be passed to help save lives literally, and to save our community. So i am so thankful to supervisor preston and his staff for introducing this, and i encourage this committee to support this legislation and for the board of supervisors to pass it unanimously because its the right thing to do, its the necessary thing to do. And then, i encourage the entire board of supervisors to take the spirit of this legislation and demand it of our National Leaders, as well. In San Francisco, we can lead the country in this. We should be pressuring our representatives in congress, speaker pelosi, to be caring, supporting on ilhan omars rent cancellation ask and we can save many lives respond San Francisco, as well. Clerk thank you. We have 87 listeners and 12 in queue. Next caller, please. Youll have two minutes to speak. Hello, caller . Next speaker, please. Hello, caller . Next speaker, please. Hi, good afternoon. Id like to state my opinion. I strongly oppose this bill since its not fair and its not representing everyone in the Current Situation in San Francisco. It kind of represents one side. [inaudible] taking care of the situation, you know, the human right for everybody. The lessor and lessee have their human rights. You know, if one side has problem, you need to step in, helping in those situations, not just for the problem on one side. Its not fair. You know [inaudible] to get help by somebody, so then, they help the lessor directly and for wider assistance to the landlord, and then helping the tenant. No one wants to evict everybody, so as long as they get fair help from the city hall, theyre going to really help the tenant to stay, so just do a balanced, you know, action, please. So consider, you know, put more fair condition. If this bill pass, you know, add the condition helping of landlord to not evict anyone. No landlord want to evict anybody, okay . Thank you so much. Clerk thank you for your comments. Again, the public call in number is 4156550001. The access code is 1454836716. Press pound, and pound again. Press starthree to be added to the queue to speak, and you will be notified by the system when its your turn to speak. We have 85 listeners and ten in queue. Next caller, please. Youll have two minutes to speak. Hi. My name is maria, and im a renter in the 8. I support this ordinance because housing is a human right. It is not incumbent upon the city to bail out Property Owners or to not owe the return on their investment. However, the city must do everything to protect our most vulnerable, which is really working class residents, to protect them from the pandemic. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Again, youll be notified that your line has been unmuted. Hello. I can you hear me . Clerk yes, we can hear you. Hi. Im a Property Owner and manager of 60 units across three buildings, and i strongly oppose this legislation. We have been lucky that the majority of our tenants that have continued to pay rent, but we do have some tenants who have admittedly refused to pay rent because of the virus. They say their income has not suffered because of the pandemic, but they refuse to pay rent because they say theres nothing we can do. Regardless of what some people think, we are not raking in cash. We would never turn out someone who is struggling, but we are working with several who need rent reduction and forebearance, but i think an ordinance who fore that forbids rent is unfair. Despite what some people say, we are not monsters, and we are a family run business. We pay taxes, pay sizeable mortgages, by extensive building repairs, trash, new roofs, and weve also completed the city mandated seismic retrofits. Were good landlords, and we do this because this allows us to live in the city. This is a hard job, and it is not a lot of income. We are not rich. We drive cars that are 15 years old, toyotas, not ferraris. I am not a predatory investor. I dont own diamonds, i do not travel to europe. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next caller. My name is barbara dwyer. I am a small Property Owner, three rent controlled units, and i am also a renter. I vehemently oppose this ordinance. I am a retired r. N. , and my rent is my income. In 30 years of ownership, ive never evicted anybody. Id like to make a few points. If housing is a human right, so is food, water, heat, and medicine. All cost money. This ordinance asks small owners to be the bank and to make substantial interest free loans with low likelihood of repavement. Small owners cannot spread their rosters across 50 or 100 units. One unit lost means 25 to 50 loss of income. My building was not rent controlled when i bought it, but supervisors have changed the rules in the middle of the game. I worked with it, but this legislation really makes me want to rethink owning property in San Francisco. I cannot even occupy one of my units if the need arises. If more small owners exit the businesses, our properties will be bought by corporations and developers. This bodes ill for the future of Affordable Housing in San Francisco. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. You have two minutes. Youll be prompted that your line is unmuted. Hello. This is salman. Im a Property Owner as well as property manager for several units in San Francisco. Ive been on this call for several hours. Id just like to say that we should all look to ourselves and to not look to divide. We see whats happening with that on the National Level with a divisive leader and administration. First and foremost, this legislation, my biggest concern with it, its not helping the constituents. Some of the other areas, specifically, san jose and others, they say its not constitutional to enact Something Like this. If it does go through, were looking at itll be repealed in the courts in six months, and a lot of tenants will not have saved up for that rent that they owe, and i dont want to do that in the city of San Francisco unless its absolutely the last option. What i think this board of supervisors is theyre kind of creating a plan to make the landlords look bad within a few months, and thats maybe a year, eight months. Thats something we dont need. It doesnt direct the service to the constituents and the people in these homes. The threeday notice is something that keeps policies in structure. By removing that ability for a landlord to do you know, a lot of landlords arent going to do that, but youre undermining the legislative system. Its bad government. Going to get redone, and youre going to have a lot of evictions after something we need to avoid clerk thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. You all have two minutes to speak. Youll all be notified that your phone is unmuted. Hello. I am a landlord, and i own a property in San Francisco. I rent at a price so people can stay in this people. I wanted to be as a landlord to stop the pushing out thats going on. These laws are going to be the norm of the future. We cant be talking about opposing this legislation without thinking about we are going to have to change the whole system of how landlords and tenants and the banks relate to this whole issue. Something has got to change. We have to come together to figure out how we can make housing as a human right and for landowners and landlortena be able to come to a solution together. I am in support of all this. Its not calling for a whole lot, its just calling to stop the evictions. I could not live with myself if i had to eviction a young person. The rent pays for my mothers care in a nursing home, so i have a lot at stake. But we have to change the way we are looking because the world is changing around us. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes to speak. Youll be notified that your line is unmuted. Hello. My name is lisa, and i am a strong small Building Owner in district number 2 in the marina, and i strongly oppose 200375. I take pride in the fourunit building i own, and i always keep it in tiptop shape for my renters. I pay all my utility bills, mortgage bills, property taxes, and maintenance bills on time. This bill will make it nearly impossible for small Property Owners like myself to recoup the rent, and it places the financial burden of covid19 on Small Business owners who have fixed mortgages, employees, property taxes, and maintenance expenses. It is not fair and equitable to the Property Owner and puts the burden of this pandemic solely on the owners. The Water Company is not supplying water without taking payment. The Mortgage Company is not foregoing payments. Owners of rental properties are providing a much needed safe home for so many residents, and this proposal is putting them in jeopardy if it passes. This, along with the closure of the court system, would allow tenants to live rent free till possibly september 2020 and beyond. To me, this seems to unfair and punishes the owners of properties. I think the board of supervisors could not and should not prohibit Housing Providers who have been financially impacted from covid from using California Law to enforce our rights. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Good afternoon. This is pahan. I am 76 years old. My wife and i had retired, and all we have is Social Security income, and we used all our savings to buy three condos in the city. They provide us our daytoday living expenses. Now, if the tenants stop paying rent, we cannot afford to be in our house. In fact, well have to move out, and we will be homeless. So my question really, to all of you two questions. Is it right and is it fair to throw me out of my own house for making an honest living, paying all of my bills . And then, i would ask, the solution i think would be, one, for the city to either come in and help tenants and i want to help them. And the second the most important question is if all these people who are proposing that the landlords