Transcripts For SFGTV Police 20240704

History month i am so excited for this month, we have a phenomenal first agenda item. Im so excited about it. Thats why i was outside. So i apologize for the ten minute tardiness. So with that, lets go ahead and call item number one please. Line item one weekly officer recognition certificate presentation of an officer who has gone above and beyond in the performance of their duties. Recognition of sfpds homicide detail and support staff, including lieutenant kelvin sanders, sergeant domingo williams, officer anthony talarico, Sergeant Scott warnke, Sergeant John hallisey, retired officer Dominic Celaya, Sergeant Kira delaney, Sergeant Ryan jones, retired officer daniel cunningham, lisa maria varney, secretary Sergeant Brant dittmar, Sergeant Brant sullivan, retired officer daniel dedet. Sergeant francis feliciano. Sergeant brian burke, retired officer tom newland. Sergeant Gregory Scott and Sergeant Eric wang, and retired lieutenant michael philpott. Hello. Come on in. Thats like the size of my whole department. I think theres more outside. Yeah, theres more coming. Yes the more the merrier. Go ahead and crouch in because we want you in camera view. Come on, dont be shy. Lets get it together. Come. Do we have everyone . Lieutenant just a couple more. There we go. Okay okay. Thats everything. Okay. Thank you for having us. Were here to, present the officer appreciation awards to the entire homicide unit, theyve done a tremendous job this past year. 85 clearance rate, they work tireless hours around the clock. Theyre always on call, they never turn down a case. They take every single case thats presented to them, and theyve done an outstanding job over the last year. So we brought them all in to recognize them. So first off is, lieutenant kelvin sanders. Hes the oic of the unit. Then we have, sergeant domingo williams. We have officer anthony talarico. Did he make it there . Hi we have, Sergeant Scott warnick. We have Sergeant John hallisey. We have retired captain Dominic Celaya of the cold case unit. We have Sergeant Kira delaney, we have Sergeant Ryan jones. We have Sergeant Brett dittmar. We have Sergeant Brant sullivan, we have retired officer dan dedet of also of the cold case unit. We have Sergeant Francis feliciano. Did he make him . No, we have Sergeant Brian burke. We have retired officer tom newland, also of the cold case unit. We have Sergeant Gregory skow. We have Sergeant Eric wang, and we have, retired lieutenant mike philpott, also the cold case unit and, a special person we have here is, lisa marie vanny. Shes a secretary. Shes been there, i think longer than everybody. Yeah, she replaced lily. Could not talk to me without her whatsoever. Thanks, lisa. Thanks for everything. Thank you. And if i can just say its lisas birthday saturday. Oh, she wants us to know. See what we do for you. Yes. Thank you. 25. Wow. Thats right. And we have two new, Police Service aides here. They just started a couple of weeks ago. Come on. Part of this. Come on. We have anne dixon and eric heenan. Theyre new to the family. Great. Well, first of all, thank you all for coming. I really appreciate it, a couple things i want to say is thank you for your service. An 85 clearance rate is phenomenal. Its probably one of the best in several counties surrounding counties. I know were ahead of oakland, and san jose and some of the other counties. So that is really something to be proud of. Secondly, i want to thank your families because i know that without them, you probably wouldnt be here, while youre doing the your job and protecting the city and getting this clearance rate to where it is, theyre at home taking care of the home front. Your children and Everything Else that you arent there to be. Also i recognize that the one, two, three, 4 a. M. Calls that you have to get out of bed to go and answer these calls and really do your job. And so i want to thank you for your service, because i know that its not easy. And not only does it take a toll on you, but it takes a toll on the family unit as well. So i want to thank your family. Thank you for your service. And i want to thank you, lieutenant, for including the Cold Case Division as well, because i think that the that unit also goes unrecognized. And, as i indicated to you in the hall, you know, its like the Unsung Heroes you appear in the middle of the night or any hour of the day to go and respond to calls. And you see some of the most horrific, traumatic things that people see. And you are there and you do your job. So i want to thank you. I also want to thank you, madam secretary, because as we all know, you are probably the real machine of this operation. And, you know, im sure they just facilitate paperwork. I this is my second family. Yeah, i love all of them. Great. Ive been with them. Well, not all of them, but like 37 years. So i love it. Wow. Yeah. So you started when you were like five, like. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yes. And im so happy. Sergeant jones you know, when i first joined the commission, hes the one that raised me. So all my bad habits. You can thank him for. So with that, im going to turn it over to the chief. Thank you, president elias, i just also want to say thank you to this, to all of the homicide unit. I mean, the amount of dedication and commitment that it takes to just to work that unit is beyond what a lot of people would believe, but they do it. And many of them have been doing it for years, they dont complain. They just come in and do the work. And i know i wish we solved every case. We dont solve every case. But as you said, their clearance rates, for the last several years has been extremely high. And for the ones that dont get solved, they dont give up on these cases. And ive seen it time and time again. I also want to thank our retired members who came back to work these unsolved cases, because we definitely need their expertise and their support. And again, for the people who have cases who have not been solved, they dont give up. And its just a relentless unit and, you know, nothing but high praise for our homicide unit. So thank you all for what you do. And lisa and the new two psas. We know that, you know, we cant do our work without help and support. And youve been with the Department Almost 38 years and, its really great to congratulate you and thank you for your work as well. So thank you. And thank you to the commission for bringing everybody in and supporting the entire homicide unit. So thank you very much for that. Thank you, chief director henderson. Yeah, i just want to say so two things. The 85 clearance rate is youre not getting enough credit for that. That is huge. The National Average is i looked it up, 52. 3. I mean, the fact that this is what San Francisco is doing and where we are right now for our rate is really important. I just think its a very big deal. So i hope you guys are proud of the work that youre doing. But the secondary thing is i think its really important. I know so much of the work is behind the scenes, and youre not frequently featured on tv and at commissions for the work that you do, but just as a sign of how relevant the work is that you do, we talk about some of the cold cases and unsolved homicides literally every week, and Paulette Brown is here in the hearing room today. Shes here every week talking about not just her case, but the work that gets done that all of you do every single day. So i think its extra relevant that you guys are here for Police Commission to come and talk about the work thats actually being done and the work that still needs to be done. And so thank you all for continuing your work, and thank you for being here tonight. Its really appropriate and really relevant to the conversations that we have every single week. So thank you and continued success. Thank you. Director henderson. I think you bring up a great point because its not the cases that you solve, but its the ones that go unsolved and that probably haunt you. And i think eat away at you, that are very stressful. And you carry with you no matter where you go. I mean, even if you get transferred or move on to a different unit. I think those cases stick with you, and sort of are burned in your memory. And theyre the most difficult because theyre the ones you cant solve or cant prove. So commissioner benedicto, thank you very much. President elias, i want to echo what everyone has said, and thank you all so much, for all that you do and recognizing that exceedingly high, high clearance rate. I do also like president elias did want to take a moment to call out lisa and wish you an early happy birthday, and thank you for coming today. My own mother has spent her career as an assistant, and just as i know that the men that you work for would be would be adrift at sea without her. Im sure the same is true of this entire unit, so thank you for your work there. I also want to echo something that director henderson said, which is about the work that you do that is unseen in. Weve had a lot of weve had a number of high profile homicides that have been solved and that the units done tremendous work and gotten recognition for that. But i think its the homicides that dont make National News that dont get all the attention that you work just as hard as the ones that are, and that you dont see your work as trying to, to, to solve the ones that are high profile, that you treat all those cases, and work them relentlessly, like the chief said. And so i thank you for doing that. I do want to acknowledge, like director anderson did, that we have Paulette Brown in the room who has been a tireless advocate for calling attention to, her own son, aubrey, as well as the many unsolved homicides. And i know that thats something that you all care deeply about, too. So thank you for all you do and all you continue to do. Youre an exemplary part of this department and have our recognition and thanks. No one else on the dais. Thank you very much. Thank you. Come down for the photo. We have wine or champagne or you stay there. I just. You know, we got to get it for the gram, so get in. Get in together. Might need to come up. Up here, out. Im sorry. Commissioners. No, no. Youre fine, youre fine. Do you want us to move . No, i think youre good. You want to center . Thank you. Doctor president. While youre there, alex, that will never happened. Commission staffs in the photo two. They dont realize it. Just are. Yes. Thank you, thank you. All right. Thanks to. Members of the public who would like to make Public Comment regarding line item one. Please approach the podium. Good evening, president elias and commissioners, im jim salinas, a native san franciscan born and raised in the mission district. I lived in San Francisco my entire life. Commissioners, im here tonight to ask that you take on one more obligation, one more responsibility, and i fully appreciate the fact that you are all volunteer citizens and you dont get paid to do this. You do it because you love the city, and you know that theres some good that comes of it. So, commissioners, im here because. Excuse me, sir, i just paused your time for one second. This is going. This is not general Public Comment. Thats the next line item. This is just on the officer recognition. If you want to make comment on that, my apologies. I didnt hear you say that. Okay. No problem. Thank you. Go ahead. Since im here a lot and i see these commendations a lot, i just wanted to say thank you so much for doing this and giving these commendations. Its wonderful to see the excellent work recognized. So thank you. Thank commissioners. That is the end of Public Comment. If you would like to make Public Comment regarding line item one, yes, but its not line one, general Public Comment is next. Thank you. So sorry. No line item two general Public Comment at this time. The public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonights agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Police Commission under Police Commission. Rules of order. During Public Comment, Neither Police or epa personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response. Alternatively, you may submit Public Comment in either of the following ways. Email the secretary at the Police Commission at sfpd. Commission at sf gov. Org or written statements may be sent via Us Postal Service to the Public Safety building located at 1245 third street, San Francisco, california. 94158. If youd like to make Public Comment, please approach the podium. Good evening again. I think every other week for me is enough for you because you need to release the pressure which is over everybodys head and its obviously a all right, to be. Are you okay, chief . I hope so, i mean, do not resign no matter what. Keep in mind, are you going to manage to pay for the situations . You know, you we pay for what we do. There is no escape. Its no way. But do not resign. Just wait to be fired. Its different because then you make the person who fires you pay a little more. Its difficult for when you have responsibility as a, for example, as a in the police, because you pay for your your functions and you pay individually for your own self. You see. So its tough, its tougher, which dont waste too long before finding out a way. Are you going to pay for what happened and what its still going on anyway . Specific the reason why you should go push sort of against autonomous cars. Im talking about that. Its because its, basically its in the hands of a sort of unintelligence, an unintelligent is dangerous no matter what. At some point, something they cant do, you can do because at some point there is okay, remember that one. Just try to fight against this autonomous cars. I dont think its going in the right direction. 25 seconds, where should i say, ill be back. Try to help, basically, my mission is that its for happiness for everybody. I remind you that i want nothing, just that happiness for everybody. But we have to Pay Attention before i go, nothing can stop me. You cant stop me without basically committing suicide. Im serious. But lets be honest. Thank you for being here. Weve missed you these past couple weeks. Does he look tired . I think we are. Hi, everyone. My name is daisy aussem, and i wanted to just report on something thats going on in the community, which is the use of several technologies that are being run by different space satellites and floating points coming from outer planets. So theres a specific technology where you can upload somebody and you can put sound into their ear. They call it synthetic telepathy, and its a technology that deloitte and all the big consulting firms have talked about and helped to build out and its been causing a lot of chaos because theyre uploading people and then theres racial chanting, or theyre trying to get information because theres an element of neuro monitoring to this technology. Ive worked a lot in behavioral health. I used to work at dcyf. Ive done a lot of advocacy and work with the police, and i feel like this is like one of the biggest issues in our community. I know you see that the crime spree thats been going on, as a part of this suite of technologies, its chemical servers that can go ahead and override the electricity, aka mantissa that youre coding in your computer and bring in outside databases that you can go ahead and use to edit like anything, any part of a database that you want to edit. And this is where were getting a lot of the data breaches. Ive been doing a lot of coding tutorials on my page. I have a small Developer Community where were basically trying to close this hacking down. Thats been causing a lot of problems because essentially they created an entire copy of all of the banks cash app, everything, everyones bank account and people that are working in city and county, state, San Francisco, city and county of San Francisco, working in the assembly, working in the senate, are using this technology to move peoples money around. And we figured it out. And now everything that weve been putting on our youtube has come up in the news. So we can clearly say that weve been having a major effect. I know youve been hearing about the outages. A lot of that is in our small Developer Community, and im going to release a specific tool to the community where theyre going to be able to get access to everyones public information. If the police do not take the situation seriously and start handling business. And thats a very powerful weapon to put into the hands of black and brown people that were oppressed. A specific Computer Program that allows you to legally overpower environments and access any type of data that you want. And i just want to talk to some people here on the Police Commission about that. And i have a handout. If someone could pass it around. Good afternoon, Police Commission. My name is chris ward klein. Thank you for the opportunity to speak in front of you today. I wanted to talk about technology. Today. I just passed out some Police Systems used by sfpd and one used by hrsa called sherlock. These systems are supposed to be automatic, sending appropriate signals to people, machines, computers and collect data. That is like an ongoing circle. December 30th, 2023. For Police Officers hurt in crash. Same day three firefighters hurt in crash december 23rd, 2023 suspect and four bystanders hurt and a police chase crash. What caused these and others . It is called a man in the middle attack and one or more agency placing too many people on their systems. Digital surveillance someone not important who plays sizable portions of the city and county on hsa. Sherlock. What is important that the Police Commission and Police Department need to ensure that all of these people are taking off immediately. Hsa does investigations for things like adoption, substance abuse, Mental Health disorders, illegal gun ownership, and sometimes they place people on it simply because they dont like them. I do believe the police should have access to tools and technology to assist them in investigations. However, until we can effectively mitigate and set the boundaries between departments and outside interference, we need to reduce the number of people on digital surveillance and insist only assigning credentials to people who need access, prosecute illegal usage, relieve delhi, review delhi to ensure no Access Control issues or man in the middle attacks 813 overdoses in 20 2366 more in january and february. Numbers due out any day. If you place every Single Person on digital surveillance, you will have a substantial increase in overdoses that can lead to poor morale in the Police Department and officer burnout. I respectfully ask the Police Commission to make this a priority. Im available to assist in any capacity requested by the Police Commission or the Police Department. Thank you. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. I was kind of mean to you last time i was here. I was a little too dramatic. I apologize for that. I just want to say that the fbi has a wonderful plan that will greatly, tremendously help police conduct. First, all all officers that are presently on the force will be given a very intensive, thorough, psychological and psychiatric evaluation to see whos a, whos a crackpot. And they will go. And the second thing is that all of you, all cops will be given a, their own, therapist that they can a nurse practitioner, they can call every day to say, you know, i had a horrible altercation when my buddy i had i had to beat somebody up today. It was a horrible. I need help, i need some counseling, some help. There will be Group Therapy for cops to get around with their buddies and say, yeah, yeah, this happened to me. There will be therapy, yoga classes, everything to keep you guys cool so that basically we dont need the commission anymore. That does not mean that you guys are fired. You guys are wonderful. The fact is, is that youre going to have better jobs. And thats im going to have to give you that later. And we dont have time right now. But i also want to say that shes got whos running the task force that theyre forming for the in order to ensure that no cop will be ever reprimanded for snapping for simply doing his job and, you know, sorry he does that thing right. You know, its on youtube, right . And so simply, hes going to run this task force, which will give each one each Police Officer a his own boss, who will literally review every, every second of the footage of his body cam of that day. He will they will interview his his buddies to see what did he do today. And it will be documented. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. And he will be praised for what he does. So we must nurture and the congress is going to have to pay for this, because if they dont, theyre not theyre not promoting the general welfare, which is very, very terrible. This is a crime against the constitution in the preamble. So, so congress and we can arrest congress simply when theyre on the. Yeah. Thank you. So i have to go home because i just did dialysis. I have to go to bed. I love you guys. And i was really mean to you, and i apologize. I, i get kind of crazy sometimes. Thank you. Okay but weve got better jobs for you than what youve got sitting up there and doing nothing. Youre going to do. You got a lot. Thank you. Maam, i appreciate it. Im ready. Thank you for your time. Thank you sir. Went over. Well, it sounds like you guys have a Better Future ahead of you, im here tonight. Hello. I realize i dont think anythings actually going to be done about this or come of this, but i at least wanted to put the question on the record of whether the vote. Well, any of the votes, but the one that im most interested in is the vote last week on dgo nine or. Yeah, dgo 9. 07, as i have read the requirements of the city of california of San Francisco, you are required to be in person unless one of three exceptions is present, but that those exceptions are not a policy body, on parental leave or or disabled. And if you want to claim that youre not a policy body, that would be awesome. Because we could just undo all the policies that i dont like that you have done. But i think its clear youre a policy body. So that exception does not apply. Parental leave and disability are the only two exceptions left out, one of your members was not present in person last week. Despite the very clear requirement that everyone be present and of course, if you want to participate remotely, just so you can listen and maybe share your views, but if participation is required to be in person. And by the way, the, human relations director for giving a pass is not one of the exceptions in the rules that are, published for citizens to, be aware of and for transparency, unless. So, that is not an acceptable excuse. So unless one of those two other excuses was present, i dont think the vote on the dgo was actually valid. I think it would, or his vote would be void. And then the vote was 3 to 3. So i just wanted to put that on the record as a. Thank you. Good evening, commissioners, alan burdell here, something really astounding, happened a couple of weeks ago here in a desperate act to effectively ban pretext stops, which are the cornerstone of proactive policing. In a desperate act to ban them before voters could say that you cant for members of this Police Commission voted to do something no other county in california has done, in something that was rejected in sacramento recently, and that is to restrict the use of pretext stops the decision of four of you. Just two weeks ago was a gross display of your raw contempt, raw contempt for voters, and who was huffing and puffing the hardest to get this done. Just a week before voters were to determine how much power we want this Police Commission to have over our sfpd, its the commissioners smirking at me right now. Its commissioner Vice President max carter oberstein. Thats the huffer and puffer. And also to his left, Commission President cynthia elias. So San Francisco, if you ever see the name max carter oberstein on a ballot or youre running and if you ever see the name cindy elias on a ballot, i urge you, dont fill in that oval. They are grinning with contempt for you as they superseded your voice last week, and theyre seething with contempt for all voters at this very moment, after they thwarted the will of San Francisco voters, voters who just yesterday clipped their wings big time with a 20 point margin of victory to support mayor breeds prop e, any future mayor otto right now say that theyre going to bounce these two. Thank you. Commissioners, 25 years ago, Latino Community leaders established a thing called the San Francisco latino steering committee. One of the things that they, these sisters dealt with, and i was part and parcel of it was the fact that latinos were not being recruited in what we thought, an appropriate manner. We brought it to the attention of the chief at the time that we felt that the screening process was a pretty lily white, operation. And we and i remember saying to him, i said, chief, its what i refer to. What theyre using is the fbi system, meaning friends and brothers and inlaws and the rest of us can go, so when cops, latinos, joined this department, one of the things that has been inspected is that they put that brown stuff in their shoe and keep it there, that theyre blue, meaning theyre not white. So as you see the ranks today, were at 19, there are the rest of it is about 45 white. And its important for me and my children and their children and the children of the people in my community to see themselves reflected within this department. Im going to give you this one scenario that happened to me a few years ago. I live, behind molly stones, and it is my custom to salute all uniform Police Officers, wherever they are. I always thank them for a job well done. Its a thankless job. And i approached a white female, officer, to say the same thing that ive said to a thousand others. And what she. When she turned around, she looked at me with such great disdain and spoke to me with such great disdain. Its important for us to see ourselves here, everywhere, up and down the ranks, its insulting and offensive not to. Were just as capable and talented as anyone else is. So i asked, especially the two latinas. And im sorry that commissioner larry yee is not here. And, commissioner walker understands the issues my community has been dealt with. So i appreciate all of your hard work. Thank you very much. Thank you. Police officers in the room. Greetings assistant chiefs. Greetings. My name is leticia flores, and there was an initiative on the ballot yesterday to have less reporting duties from Police Officers. Well, im a victim of police brutality. And also negligence by tenderloin precinct headquarters of San Francisco Police Department, where ive been a victim of crime not only by police, but citizens of San Francisco. And every time i walk into eddie and jones precinct at tenderloin headquarters, they say im crazy. Im 51, 50, and i just want to see, more accountability. And i want to know and a question for the commission. How will you raise, accountable for arrests and reporting requirements and having your staff as Police Officers do their duties. And i wouldnt know against having the citizens, you know, have these town hall commissions, what the initiative was something to the effect that there would be less reporting if theres citizen coming in and describing something or other in involvement with commission hearings, stuff like that. So anyways, another thing is the fentanyl crisis is not what it is. Its called fences or an open air black market of latino men that stand there even before covid, even before fentanyl came to San Francisco, there was an open black market at ten un plaza, and these men stand would stand there from seven in the morning to 11 p. M. With bucket loads of money, wads over thousands of dollars more money than the honduran gentlemen that are mules, would even gather more than the wool block. African american teenagers selling legal marijuana, to help pay for the rent. These kids are not the problem. Its these grown men that found out work for the city. Thank you so much. You guys want fed . I also heard from urban alchemy. Says you guys want, the feds to come in for federal indictments . Thank you. Do your job. Start with San Francisco, San Francisco pd. Okay, i grew up in a neighborhood with many Police Officers. Retired officers, active chp, the then Police Spokesman for the sfpd, and a Police Officer, widow and son who lived up the street. None. None of these persons were anything like the other. In fact, they didnt even know one another, even though they all live really closely together. All the children attended the same schools. So yeah. Police. I dont see police as one. You know, Homogenous Group at all. But onto the issue, i believe that its necessary for the Police Department and our prosecutors to, reduce, if not curtail, which would be the near ideal, the long standing phenomena which has become ingrained in Police Enforcement and our legal culture, specifically in criminal law of, well, its called up charging and example of up charging might be as simple as arresting a suspect on a felony, booking them on multiple misdemeanors in an effort to pressure the suspect into accepting a single misdemeanor charge. On what . And the most egregious circumstances would rest on a crime that might reasonably be defined as an infraction. So, from a felony arrest, a felony being so severe a crime that one would lose the rights to vote, run for election, or bear firearms to immediate right down to multiple misdemeanors in an effort to gain leverage over a defendant who might reasonably be cited on an infraction. So this is where we as a community, as a collective society, lose our sense of justice, ethics and morality. Good evening. Im here to talk about my son, aubrey. I do want to thank you. That did acknowledge that i come here. Sometimes i need to hear that because sometimes i just feel like im not being heard. But i know you hear me. So thank you for acknowledging me and my son, i come here every wednesday. I was so glad to see all of the homicide detail people down here. I didnt expect to see that, but. And collectively, im hoping that all of them can get together. I went out there when they were all standing out there and brought these pictures with me and asked them, please dont forget about my child. Dont forget about my baby. Ive been coming here for years and they all know me. And i just ask my homicide inspector, when are you going to call me . He said hes going to call me tomorrow at 10 00. Im hoping he does. And im hoping that he has some answers for me instead of saying, theres nothing else, theres nothing going on now. Theres nothing we can do, no ones come forth. This is all ive been hearing for years and years. What are we going to do to solve these unsolved homicides . Instead of hearing good of me hearing theres nothing, theres nothing, theres nothing. This is what i hear. I want to hear something. Instead of taking these pictures out there. And showing them my sons body. I want people to see how im feeling. Not just talking about it, but to see it. Those of you that are mothers and fathers, you wouldnt want to go through what im going through. Im not over this and i will never be over. The body keeps the score. The body keeps the score. Im not coming here to entertain. Im coming here as a grieving mother and im still hurting. I want my sons case solved. Give me some kind of closure. Thank you. For members of the public that have any information regarding the murder of aubrey abercastle, you can call the anonymous 24 7 tip line at 415 5754444. Commissioners, that is the end of Public Comment. Next item please. Line item three. Consent calendar. Receive and file action. Sfpds. Fourth quarter document protocol memo and dpas Fourth Quarter document protocol memo. Ill make a motion to receive and file. Second, members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding the consent calendar line. Item three. Please approach the podium. There is no Public Comment on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes, commissioner walker is. Yes. Commissioner benedicto. Yes. Commissioner benedicto is. Yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes. Commissioner yanez is yes, commissioner. Burn. Yes, commissioner. Burn is. Yes. Vice president carter. Yes. Vice president carter auberson is. Yes. And president elias. Yes. President elias is. Yes. You have six yeses. Line item four adoption of minutes. Action for the meetings of february 7th, 14th and 21st, 2024. I get a motion. Motion to adopt the minutes. Second, members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding line item for the adoption of minutes. Please approach the podium. I believe the minutes for february 21st should be revised to reflect that one of the commissioners was not at present, as is required under the rules and therefore their vote was void. Thank you. Alan braddell and i would also make the same request that the prior speaker just made about correcting the minutes to show that yanez was not here last week during that vote. Thank you. Two weeks ago. Thank you, sergeant on the motion, commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes, commissioner walker is. Yes, commissioner benedicto. Yes. Commissioner benedicto is. Yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes. Commissioner yanez is yes, commissioner. Burn. Yes, commissioner. Burn is. Yes. Vice president carter. Yes. Vice president carter. Yes. And president elias. Yes. President elias is. Yes. You have six yeses. Line item five. Chiefs report. Discussion weekly crime trends and Public Safety concerns provide an overview of offenses, incidents or events occurring in San Francisco having an impact on Public Safety. Commission discussion on unplanned events and activities a chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for a future meeting. Chief scott, thank you. Excuse me. Thank you, sergeant youngblood. Good evening, president elias. Vice president carter, commission and executive director henderson and the public, just a general, update on crime trends to start off Violent Crime down 15, property crime down 33 year to date for a total part one Crime Reduction of 30. Thats a difference of about 2600 crimes fewer than this time last year. In terms of Violent Crimes, our homicides are down actually 50. We had eight this time last year for our, year to date. As of tonight , shooting victims are down 22 and total gun violence victims are down 30, ghost guns. We have seized 40 ghost guns. Im sorry. Zero ghost guns this year, as opposed to 40 this time last year. By by the end of january last year, we had 40 ghost guns seized. So there has been a reduction in ghost gun seizures, but our total gun seizures are at 141, which is about 20 or 19 different or fewer than this time last year, a couple of significant incidents. Over this past week. There were two shootings in the city. Both resulted in, two victims that were nonfatal injuries. One was at the 2100 block of revere in the Bayview District on february 27th. The other one was on february 28th on the on Junipero Serra boulevard. Both victims were injured, but no life threatening injuries, and those cases are still under investigation and no arrest at this time. There are also three stabbings that happened over this week. One was on the 800 block of ellis on the 26th february at 12 35 p. M, the second one was on 24th and mission or at 24th and mission on the 29th of february, and the third was at willow and Willow Street and van ness avenue on the 3rd of march, at 11 24 a. M. The common theme in these three stabbings is they all, resulted from arguments and arguments led to stabbings. No arrests have been made. All of these cases are still under investigation as far as other significant events, there was a protest that happened this past saturday. It began at harry bridges plaza, and it culminated, on montgomery street near the israeli consulate. Now, it was reported by several Media Outlets that the sfpd officers involved use force on Peaceful Protesters. During this protest at the 400 block of montgomery street, the crowds attempted to breach the barricades, and in the process, one officer was spat on by a protester and other protesters threw bottles and other objects at officers. Some of which struck the officers. All of this was captured on the officers body. Worn cameras. During this exchange, pepper spray and batons were used and there were no serious injuries, two officers were injured and at least one person, on the involved in the protest was reported to have an injury, but none of them were serious. So, there is a there is an investigation on this, but i just wanted to point out that what was reported on saturday that that Peaceful Protesters had forced use upon them, the Body Worn Camera actually indicates a different story. So i just want to make sure that that is put out there as well, we had a chance to review the Body Worn Cameras and actually, what i just described was captured on the Body Worn Camera , last couple of items to report. The narcotics unit had a very successful week this past week, which led to the seizure of approximately 46 pounds of narcotics. Of that, approximately 10 pounds of that was fentanyl. Thats quite thats quite a bit of narcotics. There were numerous search warrants served. All of them were outside of the city. But this was all narcotics that would have ended up in the tenderloin, the people that were being investigated or connected to the tenderloin narcotics trade, there were a total of seven arrests that were made. And theres still more investigation to be done on this case. So i just want to give a hats off to the narcotics investigation. This investigation has been going on for a couple of months, and its not over yet. So really good work there. And again, part of the goal and the objective is to disrupt this market by taking narcotics off the street, of the other, 10 pounds of fentanyl, as i reported, and the other approximately 45 pounds, 35 pounds was meth. So a really good, good job. By the, by the officers in that case. And that concludes my report for this week. Thank you. Thank you chief. Mr. Young thank you, chief, for the report. Thank you, president elias, with regards to the enforcement and the tenderloin, i know that, you know, the numbers of Overdose Deaths have stayed pretty consistent, right . As far as we understand. And, even after this enforcement has had been initiated, my understanding is one of the objectives of this approach is to get drugs off the streets so that people arent overdosing. So we should be making an impact on that. But it doesnt feel, i mean, evidence is demonstrating that we have not reduced the number of overdoses with this new intervention. And when the intervention started in may of last year or april, may of last year, i you know, i on an ongoing basis, ive been asking what are the tangible objectives, what are the outcomes, what are the metrics that were looking for success and if Overdose Deaths are decreasing, the number of deaths isnt one of those outcomes, what are those numbers . What are those approaches and what is, going to inform the next step that we take when, after eight months of this intervention, we have not improved the outcomes when it comes to Overdose Deaths in the city . Yeah. Well, for as far as the police action, i dont definitely we all want to see fewer Overdose Deaths, but part of our objective from the policing standpoint has always been to disrupt, to remove as much as we can remove as much narcotics, particularly fentanyl, off the streets as we can. And then the other thing is disrupt the open air, sales and usage of narcotics. I do think we have made some definitely made some impact. There the night market is still a huge challenge for us. But as far as the day market, which is where we started in may on the on really the focus was on the day market things. Things have gotten much better. And if you look at some of the areas where there used to be, 1020 drug dealers selling drugs on the streets in the daytime, in the broad daylight, not so much anymore in the daytime. Now, night time is still a challenge, and were weve shifted a lot of our resources tonight, so hopefully over time, we will hopefully well see some impact on the overdose picture, but from a policing standpoint, really the objective is to disrupt, to seize as much as we can to help disrupt that market, to definitely focus on the dealers. I mean, the majority of the investigations have focused all of the investigations are focused on the dealers, not just the street dealers, but like some of the arrests that i just mentioned, where it goes above the street dealers. So i do think theres been some some impact and some success there, we need everybody on the team, Public Health and the Service Providers to really hopefully impact this overdose picture. And they are on the team. So i think we just have to keep working, you know, were what, ten months into this now, 11, ten months, not even ten months, nine months into this. So i do think theres a lot of work to be done. And we still need to figure out some things in terms of how were going to address this overdose market. Is it department anywhere close to considering the cart program or funding the cart program that, has been, you know, extensively evaluated or at least researched and we participated in this. We have a resolution on, it is a plausible potential alternative to this approach that we have taken. And, i believe its still on the table. I mean, we had a resolution last year that says we support launching this program, but we havent taken steps to actually activate this. Yeah, i believe that funding for the cart program. So the funding, was approved by the board and then i believe an rfp dem from the department of Emergency Management actually is responsible for managing, but the Program Actually is, part i cant remember exactly what the acronym stands for, but part heart. Right. So that has been implemented and its not heart is not cart. No. Lets be clear. Heart is not cart. Its what the Program Actually ended up being. Was heart not cart. I think with some i dont know if its all of the concept, its from the cart program. But i do know that it was modeled from that program. So that is up and running, thats a dem managed program. We have been as far as its not sfpd program, but we definitely support it. So that is up and running and its been up and running for, probably about half of the last year up until now. And so the department does fund programs. I mean, theres this you know, i know that, Vice President carter oversaw agendized the sf safe resources and the and the fiasco that happened there around oversight. There were about my understanding is 5 million in question that we dont have invoices for that could have easily funded cart itself, the actual program. And so im just pointing this out because, oftentimes ive heard you say that there are that we have to just try something different. And what were trying is not improving the outcomes when it comes to Overdose Deaths. And yet we have the ability to fund an Evidence Based Program that we know can have an impact. Yet were not making those efforts or were not, extend the support to that effort. And i wanted to make sure that we are clear that what is being funded is not cart and that there is still a very Clear Program design thats based on evidence based models that has training and Capacity Building as embedded in the development of the program that is still on the table as a resource. Yeah. So just a couple of things, commissioner, on that. There was never a desire or an ask for cart to be funded by or through the Police Department. I met with the cart people, several meetings with them, and that was never, ever even on the table as far as the Police Department funding that program in terms of where the funding went. Like i said, the concept was funded and it ended up being put under dem for management, and that process ended up with this heart program. So that was actually outside of anything that the Police Department had control over, we work with them with as much as we can in terms of making sure we support whats happening with this heart program, no matter what its called. I think its our duty to help try to make it happen and make it work for the betterment of our city. But that was beyond our control as the point here. And i did meet with the folks who organized the cart, many times. There was never a desire or a need by that group to have the Police Department sponsor that program. Those are my only questions. Thank you, chief commissioner burke. Thank you, president elias, chief, with regards to the demonstration, was the Body Worn Camera released to the public, yet . It has not been. Is there a plan for sfpd to release the Body Worn Camera . We. My understanding is theres probably going to be a. I dont know if its gotten to dpa yet, but the way it was reported that, for use on peaceful protest will trigger an investigation. So we have watched the Body Worn Camera, i have watched the Body Worn Camera. And at which time we can release it. We will. And when do you think youll be able to release it . I need to follow up and see whether theres actually an investigation going with dpa. Im not sure that that has been. Its up to dpa. No, no, im just saying we dont want to release. We typically communicate about releasing these things if theres an ongoing investigation. So thats all im saying. So you have no no date as to when the body not not right now, but i definitely will communicate. And if theres not anything that prevents us from releasing, we can release it. Definitely. So when we come back in two weeks, we have a date, then. Yeah. By then. Sure. Yes. Okay thank you. My next question. There were 19 officers sworn in last week. Are are any of them going to the tenderloin in the evening shifts where you just talked about the shortage . I just signed the transfer. If you give me a minute, i can look at the transfer and tell you where theyre going, but i have to look it up. So i dont know. Do you know if any are going to the tenderloin . I can look at it. I mean, i have it, i have it here, i can i can look at it and give me a second to, well yeah, i mean i its partly rhetorical. Is there any plans on increasing the swing shift in the tenderloin . The regular officers, not the officers that are, that are out, you know that, you know, the patrol officers, the ones that are there, you know, at nighttime when you walk around, is there any plans on increasing those numbers with the 19 new officers . I dont know that. Let me check and see if we send any to general. I can answer that question right now. I mean, its and if the answer is no, i mean, the only we just had signups. So we may have had a shift in day versus night deployment, but i can definitely answer the question of whether any officer are on the right. But the point is, is there going to be an increase in the evening, in the evening, down in the tenderloin and the swing . Say that that that will be right now, commissioner, because we, you know, trying to balance the department, i understand, right. But to be fair, you even brought up that there was a shortage, right . Theres shortages all over using this to entrap you. Chief, im just pointing out you brought it up. Im following up. Theres 19 new officers. Im not sure whether one of the 19 goes down, but will it allow for an increase . In other words, can you commit to the city that there will be an increase . You spoke about the shortage. Can you commit to the city that there will be an increase in those officers . As you freely acknowledge, theres a shortage in the swing shift. So can you commit now to increase it . Let me give you an answer. Ill wait in two weeks. When we come back. Yes, i would prefer to do that because their shortage is all over the city. Thats all. I understand that, but you know where the need is the greatest, right . Okay. Thank you chief. Thanks thanks. Good evening chief. Thank you for the report. I wanted to follow up on something that you said to commissioner yanez, which when he was asking you about the tenderloin operations, you said that the focus of the operations are on or the focus of the investigations. I think your words were were on drug dealers and i did want to that that did strike me, given as weve spoken about many, many times, that we have eight officers and a sergeant full time focused on drug users, not dealers. And what i estimate roughly to be another three fte officers, also focusing on users. So how do you square that . That staffing choice with the statement that the focus is actually on dealers . Yeah. The investigations like the one i mentioned. I mean thats a months long investigation. Yeah. We still do have a street enforcement team. The youth team. Theyre still out there. But these investigations i mean those arent those are observing open air usage. They make the arrests and then that is off to the next one. When i speak of investigations, im talking about the actual narcotics investigations, the spotting operations, the search warrants, the actual investigations. The focus is dealers. And thats what the narcotics officers that are assigned to work that side of this equation. Thats what they do. Fair enough. So that makes sense. So youre saying the investigations piece of it is focused on dealers okay. Because the staffing doesnt reflect a focus on dealers. Right we still have a narcotics. Well i understand we have one. Im just saying the relative staffing doesnt reflect a priority on dealers, because the other thing you said was that, you know, one of the key goals is to get drugs off the street and arresting users isnt obviously the most efficient way to get drugs off the street. Right yeah, we still are. To answer your question, yeah, there are still a dedicated group of officers to do that, to disrupt the open air drug usage. So yes, that is, but we also have i would say, the majority of the resources in that effort actually goes toward the dealer and the investigations, because the pretty much the entire narcotics unit, thats what they do. Theyre theyre doing those types of operations. What would you say . Its the majority of the arrests or dealers. I think its probably only, i think there were two, about 2500 arrests since this effort started and probably about a thousand or so were dealers. Okay. So 60 of the arrests are users. Correct . Is if i understood what you said. Correct. Right. Okay so thats pretty surprising, chief. I mean, when you talk about how were choosing to allocate our resources at a time of understaffing, given the statistics that that i and brought up in the past that commissioner yanez just raised tonight, dont you think its time to reallocate at least some of that towards dealers . 60 of arrests being users. And the results being street conditions not changing as a result, overdose is skyrocketing to record levels, isnt it time to maybe focus a bit more on on dealers at this point, we are focused on dealers, but i would not agree. The street conditions are not changing. I think there have been some changes and definitely changes in street conditions. And, aside from more people dying, street conditions with open air usage and some of the, the areas that weve been focused on to disrupt that behavior. Yeah, there have been some changes there, definitely. We have more work to do. And like i said, the night market is a challenge. But, you know, when this was rolled out, it was rolled out in phases. And that first phase was really the u. N. Plaza, market street, basically from sixth street to eighth street, seventh street, seventh and mission. Those areas are much, much better. Much better. So i do think there are changes. And look, im not saying that theres not still challenges because there are and disrupting that market of open air drug usage. I still think is something that we have to do now at some point, maybe there will be different strategies to deal with that. But we have to get to that work as well, because that is also an issue for us in the city. All right, wanted to ask you about you raised the protest related to the war in gaza. It was i didnt catch this in your report. It was also reported by at least one news outlet that, one protesters hand was broken as a result of a baton strike. Is that correct . According to your understanding . Well, yeah, we believe that that person was a protester, might i say we believe because the report was made at the station and that person did report that they were at the protest. So we do believe that that person was injured in the protest. I did mention that one of the protesters were injured. Injured . Yeah, i did catch that. Okay. And, if i recall at the time that the article that i read at least was published, sfpd declined to comment when asked whether, force was used in terms of pepper spray or batons. But you are now confirming that that that that did occur just to be perfectly clear. Yes. Pepper spray and batons. Okay and then last follow up on something commissioner byrne asked. I just wanted to be clear what what would be the conditions that would need to be met in order for sfpd to release the body cam footage . I want to make sure that the if theres not an investigation and this doesnt interfere with the investigation, its okay to release it. So if dpa is investigating this case case, then you you might still release it. If it wouldnt, interfere with their investigation. Is that is that is that correct . The criteria and the policy, one of the three criterias is if it doesnt jeopardize an investigation. So thats a check that we do before we release a video. And if thats the case, its free to be released. I mean, there are two other criterias, but thats one of them. Okay. Thanks, chief. Thats everything for me. Members of the public that would like to make Public Comment regarding line item five, the chiefs report. Please approach the podium. I like to use the overhead. The 0, has been paid out concerning, unsolved. Unsolved unsolved homicides in nearly a decade. And i had brought up to the Police Commission that, you know, neither city officials nor their families are allowed to receive rewards. Neither are those who help in a case part as part of a plea bargain. Our settlement people with people wanted by the law who are who are. Im sorry. Over information so that their rivals can go to jail. So what im what im trying to say is were trying to find other ways to solve these unsolved, unsolved homicides. There was another one that these are two articles by the same reporter, that the police chief is, you know, trying to highlight about unsolved homicides. This was a this was a report that you guys brought last time about the unsolved homicides. But it doesnt it doesnt say anything about the new thing that were trying to do about unsolved homicides. I know my sons picture is on one of these. I dont have time to talk about it too much. You can bring it back to me. The. Im waiting for april for dpw and the police to come together about solving how to pay tipsters. To pay. You could bring the camera back to me, how to pay tipsters to, to solve these homicides. The paying some of them some kind of money to solve the unsolved homicides. So im still waiting to find out some information so that i can let other mothers so they can come here and voice their opinion about that, too, because we need our cases solved. Its been a long time. Thank you. There is no further Public Comment line item six dpa directors report discussion report on recent activities and announcements. Commission discussion will be limited to determining whether the calendar, any of the issues raised for a future Commission Meeting. Executive director henderson thank you. So currently we have 106 cases that have opened so far this year, and weve closed 110 cases, we still have 307 cases that are open and pending. And again, that number is up from the same time last year, we have sustained 14 cases, and we have two cases that weve mediated so far. We have 30 cases that, have investigations that have gone longer than 270 days. Again that is still before the 3304 deadline date, and we have not had any of the cases go beyond that date to have lost jurisdiction, of those 30 cases, 19 of them are told ten cases are still pending with the commission. Pending a resolution. And we have 96 cases pending resolution with the chiefs office, this week, we received 20 cases, came in and of the cases that came in, the top allegations that came in were 22 of those allegations were for conduct unbecoming of an officer and 16 of the allegations were for allegations of neglect of duty, the largest divisions or precincts, came from southern, where three of the allegations came in, from that precincts. Again, the full 100 and a breakdown of all of those, 20 cases can be found online at, sf gov forward slash dpa, also this week, an outreach, we were able to restock the brochures and complaint forms as a reminder, that information is at every precinct that you go into. You can see and have information on how to contact dpa directly, without having to contact the Police Department directly. We also attended, this week, the richmond Station Community meeting as well, to answer questions and to make a presentation about dpa and how the organization works, in terms of our audit, we received our responses that came from back from the department, the initial audit information and so right now, were in the process of reviewing that information. And preparations for our conference with the department. I believe we still have the, the, secondary inquiry out to the commission as well. So well be looking forward to those, from the commission specifically. We are currently in closed session. We have one, two, three, four of the cases that are in closed session this evening, present and the audience today in the hearing room is senior investigator chris chisnell, also our new director of policy, jermaine jones. And also our chief, deanna rosenstein is here in the courtroom, is here in the room with us today. Oh my god, for folks that want to get in contact with dva, they can contact us on the website at sf gov. Sf gov. Org dpa, they can also contact us directly at 415 2417711, i will reserve my comments on the subsequent agenda items until they are called and reserve my comments for that. That concludes my report. Thank you, director henderson. Sergeant members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding line item six. Please approach the podium. There is no Public Comment on line item seven. Commission reports discussion and possible action Commission President s report, commissioners reports and commission announcements and schedule of items identified for consideration at a future Commission Meeting. Thank you. I wanted to address the likely passing of proposition e. The commission has reached out to the City Attorney, and we are meeting with relevant agencies in the department to create a comprehensive and sensible way to implement the prop e. In the meantime, we will do our best to keep the public informed of next steps and progress. Since we have some time to implement the proposition and the other announcements. O commissioner benedicto, thank you, president elias, a couple of things, for my report, i joined the sfpd contingent for the Lunar New Year parade for the year of the dragon, which was a really tremendous turnout of members of the public, and a great contingent, it did not rain, which was also an added bonus as well, additionally, i, along with a number of other commissioners, was present at the last academy graduation. Commissioner byrne noted that we had 19, graduates that an academy graduation. Thats the largest graduating class of the academy. And a number of years. And ive been told that the class following them is larger still, so that was nice to welcome those 19 officers, to the department. And good to hear they got their assignments. Tomorrow ill be having my quarterly meeting, with Steve Flaherty as part of my role as the dpa audit liaison, i believe at that meeting, well also discuss whatever that new audit related responsibility was that i apparently volunteered for, but cant recall at this moment, but looking forward to that as well, i know, yes, i know it was something Award Winning a war with our Award Winning audit team, i know that Commission Staff asked on behalf of the audit team, the commissioners, to fill out the audit survey, the dpa prepared as your audit liaison. Im going to also add that reminder to please do that. It will help determine what i raise with the audit team and with the audit team brings to the whole commission. So thank you. Yeah, ill resend it. Commissioner byrne. And thank you, president elias, in the recently, the election last night, property refers to, particular dgos that this commission has enacted, go 3. 015. 015. 03, 5. 05 and 5. 06, do i understand, that the commission will agendize those items, fairly soon as to what action to take as the as proposition e gives us a drop dead date, later on. You have your blue folder. Fill it out, youre not going to make any public commitment tonight. Blue. Purple. Purple oh, yeah. Thats right. Well theyre actually purple, but thats okay. Okay. Thank you. But are you going to make any public commitment tonight as to agendize those items . I think i made my announcement so put it in the purple. So youre not going to go any further tonight. Okay is am i correct in saying that ive already given my statement. Thank you, commissioner walker, thank you, president elias. I just want to make a couple of announcements. I did a ride along in the richmond station. Captain kenny was great in hosting me and introduced me to the staff out there. And rode along for a couple of hours, i recommend it highly for everyone. If you havent done it, i think, commissioner benedicto and i are also scheduled for later this month to do a ride along in the tenderloin overnight. So well report back and, let you all know, but i encourage all the commissioners to do that because i think it gives you an idea about what the chief is talking about when hes talking about things improving. Because i think that, my experience down in the tenderloin and walking, and spending a lot of time there, i meet a lot of folks down in the tenderloin and, it really has gotten better during the day. So yeah, i did the Lunar New Year parade, too. It was pretty amazing. Very well coordinated, and one of the most crowded ive seen throughout the whole route, it was great, a lot of excitement, and everybody really loved it, let me see. Ive also met with a couple of folks from who are who were working with the patrol specials, the last patrol special. Youve all seen the tv show, and i wanted to just get a sense of sort of what their concerns are Going Forward and explained that were in the process of reviewing that program and will be, putting it on the agenda to discuss it within the next month or two in the next few weeks, theyre really concerned because they really had a Good Relationship with the existing patrol special. Alan buyer, i think, is his name. I also want to thank the chief. I think the station there gave a really good, Going Away Party to alan. His retirement date was, march 1st, one of the really successful patrol specials, partnerships. And, he was totally not expecting it. Went to sign out at night and the whole station gave him a Going Away Party. So it was really touching. So i want to thank you for that, chief, march. March 1st. Thank you, president elias. Quick report from me, still meeting with the Community Assessment Referral Center about, the pre booking juvenile diversion program, i know that commissioner benedicto has agendized a dgo 701, conversation. Do we have a date for that . Commissioner benedicto i think based on when they expected it to be up for a vote, we were trying to find a date. If it made sense to put it on there, if it would just come up for final adoption. So i dont think theres a fixed date. Okay then id like to agendize. I wanted to see if, as a part of that conversation around the dgo, we could also, include our an update around the pre booking diversion program, but it seems like theyre very separate items. Chief, would you have a preference to how we proceed with scheduling, another conversation around an update for prebooking diversion. No, i dont have a preference. Whatever whatever works for the commission. Okay. Because i think were approaching a year since we had that last conversation, and i would love for us to. Ill make sure to fill out the purple binder folder and that we have a presentation on that, just to see what progress weve made and to, hopefully get closer to agreements with the Community Partners on this effort, the other update i have is around our investigative social media. Dgo, dpa has been hard at work. I thought i saw jermaine here earlier, he might have stepped out, but, they have done a wonderful job, just kind of gathering best practices, meeting with Community Experts in this field to recommend a draft of the dgo that were going to present to the department pretty soon to begin to, figure out what the next step is in order to adopt an investigative social media dgo. And then i did have a question. I mean, there was an article around, around, that cj put out around clearance rates chiefs a few weeks ago, i think it indicated something, about the fact that even though there are fewer reports, being made for Violent Crime, you know, our clearance rates continue to plummet outside of our homicide detail, which is doing a wonderful job, did you read that report . Do you have any comments on, any of the, any of the data that was presented there . I did read it, and i dont have any comments, but i did read it. Yeah i just wanted to make sure that, you know, obviously, i brought up clearance rates not too long ago. And today we honored, one of our better, teams at that in that area. And i would love for us to have a conversation about the ongoing efforts of the department to improve our clearance rates in those areas that are of concern, so ill make sure that we fill that document out and we can agendize that down the road. Thank you. Sergeant. Thats purple to some of us members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding line item seven. Please approach the podium. There is no Public Comment. Line item eight discussion and possible action to adopt department general order 9. 07. Restricting. Restricting the use of pretext. Stopped. As to the other bargaining units. Discussion and possible action. Colleagues, we enacted this policy last week, only as to the po, this week before us is the exact same policy, and today im going to make a motion to enact dgo 9. 07 only as to the mayor, with a delay of implementation for training, so that it goes into effect at the same time that the policy will go into effect for the poa subject to the terms outlined in Commission Resolution 24, dash 34, second. Sergeant for members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding line item eight. Please approach the podium. There is no Public Comment on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . No, mr. Walker is no. Commissioner benedicto. Yes. Commissioner benedicto is. Yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes yanez is. Yes, commissioner. Burn. No, commissioner. Burn is no commissioner. Im sorry, Vice President carter. Yes Vice President carter is. Yes. And president elias. Yes. President is. Yes. You have four yeses and two nos. Thank you, officer jones and miss preston for being present. Next item. Line item nine. Discussion and possible action to adopt revised department. General order 9. 05 citation control discussion and possible action. Did you, sergeant . Did you . Yeah. There was none. None. Sorry theres no Public Comment. Yes, sergeant jones. Oh, officer jones sorry. Thank you. Sorry. Is that binding you just promoted . Im making a motion. Sergeant jones. Yes, ill second it. Thank you. Officer jones, traffic company, San Francisco Police Department, and im here to submit geo 9. 05 citation control for possible, adoption there. This policy i believe i presented it before about a month ago, theres been no changes. Were still looking at the 30 day or. Excuse me, the 45 day implementation period. Weve already just drafted a department notice, so were ready to roll this out, and im submitting it to you for possible adoption and approval. Thank you. I see no questions on the dais. Can i get a motion to accept motion to adopt, 9. 05, second 45. Yes hes fast. Sergeant. He only needs 45 days. 45. All right. For any member of the public like to make Public Comment regarding line item nine, please approach the podium. There is no Public Comment on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes. Mr. Walker is. Yes. Commissioner benedicto. Yes. Commissioner benedicto was. Yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes. Commissioner yanez is. Yes commissioner byrne. Yes. Commissioner byrne is. Yes. Vice president carter stone, yes. Vice president stone is. Yes. And president elias. Yes. President elias is. Yes. You have six yeses. Next item. Line item ten. Discussion and possible action to adopt. Revised department general order 9. 04. Seatbelt policy discussion and possible action. Hello. Good evening, president elias. Chief scott, commissioners. Director henderson. Officer wolkowitz traffic company, San Francisco police. Im here to bring back 904, it went to the poa and went to meet and confer, theres a couple items that were lined out , but it is, i think, ready to roll out at this point with a 90 day implementation period. Perfect. Okay. Can i get a motion motion to adopt general order 9. 04 second . Second. Yell it out. Sergeant, for any member of the public can make Public Comment regarding line item ten. Please approach the podium. Seeing none on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes. Commissioner walker is. Yes. Commissioner. Benedicto. Yes, commissioner benedicto is. Yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes she is. Yes. Commissioner byrne. Yes commissioner byrne is. Yes. Vice president carter overstone. Yes. Vice president carter is. Yes. And president elias. Yes. President elias is. Yes you have six yeses. Line item 11. Discussion and possible action to adopt. Department general order 5. 25ft pursuit discussion and possible action. All right. Good evening, captain sean perdomo from the training division. Im here for the foot pursuits dgo. Item 11. How are you . All good. Hungry . Great. Tired awesome. Thirsty. A little warm. Were almost there, though. Almost across the finish line. Okay okay. Keep going, we have commissioner benedicto. Thank you, this has come before us before i assume training doesnt have any issues with the changes that were made out of meeting. Confer no. I reviewed the changes with lieutenant meehan at the field tactics and force options unit, and he has no objection to any of the proposed changes. Great, i will make a motion. I do want to note, i know we spoke more at length on this when it was first brought up to, approve and send to meet and confer. But im really glad that this department is taking the lead with the foot pursuit policy. And i think that the way this policy was drafted was is also a model of collaboration. I want to acknowledge director caywood at dpa, the training division, the fto division, as well as our fabulous dpa interns. I think that was two intern classes ago that they did their foot pursuit, presentation, if any intrepid two years ago dpa interns are still regularly watching commission. Thank you for your tremendous work. But this dgo, i hope not. I hope they found Something Better to do, but i do want to acknowledge, the, the that this is, a policy that came out of collaboration, that it came out of multiple pieces of the department and dpa collaborating. Im glad to see that happen. Id also like to acknowledge the poa. Im glad that we sent this to meet and confer in october, and its back to us right now, i would love it if all of our egos came in and out at that speed. So if lieutenant macrae is watching, id like to make that request as well, with that, i would like to make a motion to adopt. Department general order 5. 25. Director henderson. Thank you, i just wanted, to say as well, i think this came back with so few edits, but i think the fact that the process was so efficient and happened at the speed that it did it is a reflection of the collaboration that you were alluding to and having, dpa come to the table to work so collaboratively with the department is honestly the model of what we should be doing with the dgos exactly how this one went forward, you did reference the, folks, and this was a project from the interns that brought up the issue when they did their year presentation again, it came from them. A lot of that work was done by gabriel navarette, one of the law students at. Hey, im not going to say it because i might get it wrong, but one of the law students that, worked diligently on raising the idea and trying to get this added to the agenda so that we could all work on it collaboratively and it really is just the model of how efficiently we can all be, when were working collaboratively like that. I do want to acknowledge the work that janelle put in Janelle Caywood from our office, and pulling this together, and we look forward to working with the dpa, the field tactics and force options units that was instrumental in creating this draft and engaging with us through all of these several amendments that went into making the current draft that we have now, thats it. Thank you. I get a second to the motion. Second sergeant, for the record for the resolution, is there an implementation window, its already being implemented in the sense that this has already been incorporated in our training. I was able to sit in last weeks field options class on wednesday during our advanced officer continuing professional training, and there were already training to this standard using a current slide show. Yeah. So do you still want the 30 day or 45 day leeway . Yes, 45 days would be okay. Yep for members of the public, id like to make Public Comment regarding line item 11. Please approach the podium seeing none on the on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . Commissioner walker. Yes, commissioner. Benedicto. Yes, commissioner benedicto is. Yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes. Commissioner yanez is yes. Commissioner. Burn yes, commissioner. Burn is. Yes. Vice president carter. Yes Vice President carter is. Yes. And president elias. Yes. President lias is. Yes you have six yeses. Item 12 discussion and possible action to approve revised department general order 10. 02. Equipment for the department to use in meeting and conferring with the affected bargaining units as required by law. Discussion and possible action between chief commissioners. Director Sergeant Joseph venmo of the Administration Bureau here for 10. 02 to move into meet and confer. I dont see any, commissioners on the dais. Can i get a motion, im sorry. Go ahead. Thank you. President elias, to the City Attorney. If property if property when property comes into effect would be wed be allowed to vote on this without it going through the requirement of the new public and with the requirement of the new public engagement. And, this is a dca maneuver that im filling in this evening. Yes. I understand, im sorry to put you on the spot. No, thats okay, could you just clarify . So in in proposition a, theres a new Community Engagement process. Yes. Right. Okay. So i understand the previous dgos that were here tonight had already been had already been voted on and approved this sego has not been voted on and approved. So my question is when the new when proposition e goes into effect will this commission, when its going through the process, will it have will they have to go back and do the Community Engagement . Requirements in section g of proposition e . I am unfortunately not prepared to answer that question today. So then i would ask thats being discussed. Thats one of the issues that i raised. It doesnt go into effect till october. So if you have that question i suggest you reach out to the City Attorney beforehand instead of putting the temporary City Attorney on the spot, so weve noted your question. If you have any new questions, please ask. Otherwise im going to ask to take a vote, thank you, so could somebody from the City Attorneys Office Report back to us at the next Commission Meeting publicly . I can i can take a note of your question, and make sure that is prepared to discuss it with you, confidentially before the meeting or as appropriate, during the meeting. I would prefer it during the meeting so the public can hear. Okay ill pass on that. Thank you. Sergeant, did i get a motion . No. Can i get a motion . You didnt get a second, i dont think. All right. Can i get a second . I dont have a motion either. Oh, ill make a motion to approve. Department general order 10. 02, subject to our labor relations. Resolution 23 dash 22nd, for members of the public that would like to make Public Comment regarding line item 12, please approach the podium. There is no Public Comment on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes, mr. Walker . Yes, commissioner. Benedicto. Yes, commissioner. Benedicto is. Yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes. Commissioner yanez is. Yes. Commissioner. Burn. Yes commissioner. Burn is. Yes. Vice president carter. Overstone. Yes. Vice president stone is. Yes. And president elias. Yes. President elias is. Yes. You have six yeses. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Line item 13, Public Comment on all matters pertaining to item 15 below. Closed session, including Public Comment on item 14. A vote whether to hold item 15 in closed session. If you would like to make Public Comment regarding closed session, please approach the podium. And there is no Public Comment. Line item 14 a vote on whether to hold item 15 in closed session. San francisco administrative code section 67. 10 action. Motion to hold item 15 in closed session. Second on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes. Mr. Walker is. Yes. Commissioner benedicto. Yes. Commissioner benedicto is. Yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes. Commissioner yanez is yes. Commissioner. Burn youre up burn yes, commissioner. Burn is. Yes. Vice president carter. Yes. Vice president oberstar is. Yes. And president elias. Yes pres stacey. I think thats if. Well, no its not. Its staceys job. If he just had. All right. Go ahead. Finish all right, commissioners, we are back in open session. You still have a quorum on line item 16, vote to elect whether to disclose any or all discussion on m 15 held in closed San Francisco administrative code section 67. 10. Action. Motion not to disclose any discussion on item 15. Second, any member of the public like to make Public Comment regarding item 16. Please approach the podium seeing none on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes. Commissioner walker is. Yes. Commissioner. Benedicto. Yes, commissioner benedicto was. Yes. Commissioner. Janez. Yes. Commissioner janez is yes. Commissioner byrne. Yes. Commissioner byrne is. Yes, commissioner. Im sorry. Vice president carter overstone. Yes. Vice president carter is. Yes. And president elias. Yes. President elias is. Yes. You have six yeses. Line item 17. Adjournment. Welcome, all of you to gakuen. Its. Were extremely happy and honored that youre here to join us today. Despite the change of weather that were experiencing. My name is diane matsuda, and i will serve as your emcee today. I am also one of the Board Members of kimono gakuin. So, folks, this has been a long time in coming, and were just so excited to get this project from where it sat for many years. As paper plans on our hands to where we are today to bring him ck