This is responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. Acknowledging the ancestors, elders, and relatives of the Ramaytush Ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. Welcome to the San FranciscoRecreation Park Commission meeting this morning at 10 00 am. , thursday, april 18, 2024. When you are in line and waiting. 4. Unless otherwise indicated, speakers will have 2 minutes to provide comment. Public comment will be available unless founsz by the chair. Recreation and Park Commission meeting 18, 2024, 10 00 a. M. City hall, room 416. Please address your commission to the commission directly the commission may ask comments from the public and blue cards available at the table we ask you to fill out a blue card Public Comment maybe submitted email and Postal Service and included in the file were on item two the president s report. Thank you ashley im going to pass to the general manager and if i have anything to say had the bill is done i will. Turn your mic on. I through ashley. I think were going to the gm report i think would you like the president s report to you want to call Public Comment on weighing to move on to the president s report. All right. Good morning, commissioners. I think we have an action pack. Report and with a couple of presentations for you tend will be lovely and try to get through that. Earlier this month the last time we gaktd with celebrated thursday and thank you to those commissionersable to be out there and president anderson and commissioner louie that is a first. It was really a fantastic event and london breed attend and had surprise visits for the rafrpgz and had jeff for the Young Peoples Team an incredible and also lgbt celebrated did california science first birthday the amendment shares a original birthday with Golden Gate Park and one year we came into the park. And what is the celebrations without cake had a big cake thank you to the mayor and more importantly shout out have not staff work care for this crown jewel were hiflts of its a fantastic place were happy to celebrate and excited to announce the new innovative way for the Pickleball Court and moungsz at rec park we transitioned in the old system to the new one will really it. Phase one is reservations for the following locations alice park and others. Starting this week reservations will be at the website that i Just Announced and day to all locations and starts on monday april 22nd report the reservations the new system is for intuitive book from our laptop and many in addition to creating segue to the ports by single users providing a daily schedule on the court and have access for arithmetics over the 5 years and the department has the number of Pickleball Courts by a lot im sure someone will get up in Public Comment and talk about that and had 87 today and rolling out the system and hearing feedback from the community this sunday is four, 20. Or saturday it is for 20. Were excited this year will be different we will pull it off the event on the hill in previous years will be a little bit different a full day of activities with the field day from 10 00 a. M. It 4 00 p. M. Will be kick ball turns out and corn hole and something called something vocal dont forget to bring our tiedye and your favorite flavor of gummy in honor of earth day with a tradition be there as a team and go to the link and click on San Francisco 40s these looking high and low to celebrate 4 20 were in the middle of San Francisco april 13th there the 20 world class growers and check out this at sfgovtv. Com whetherer you go. We are excited to announce a Ground Breaking live treatment from 2 00 to 4 00 p. M. And for all san franciscans that is that and the culture heart of compound and for festivals and Community Celebration like the Cherry Blossom festival and other festivities and the yearend festival San Francisco and in the mid 1960s that was designed and inspired by the capital and symbolize goodwill and philip that is one of the last three remaining penalty towns in that city that is designed by the Community Engagement with the task force Plaza Committee and plaza will have all the participating and ceda to make sure that remains a Community Gathering for all. During construction the chinatown will remain open but the project is that flaunted the 2020 San Francisco health and recovery bond where a hard any 25 million and an additional 9 million in grants and bell ringing the Economic Development for by nancy pelosi thank you, Speaker Nancy Pelosi will be there and to get it and or next weekend and 6 million from the agency thanks to the family members and look forward to opening the plaza for 2026. On sunday april 28th we are hosting a different recognizing the one hundred anniversary of our camp mater it is mart though some sail it a different way it doesnt matter well done laughter . Camp mater is for generations in San Francisco families oh, the unique outdoor expense and activities like horse backpack riding and more free event at the center about welcome the Upcoming Season and give a taste of camping in the community and a presentation on the camp and samaritan park of park and crafts and signing wall and food trucks will be on hand for rich times and it is in partnership with the friends of camp mater. Um, coming out and get a taste of summer. That sunday april 21 we will be hosting a state festive at the u. N. Undertaking it is paradise we are provide to announce in event from 11 to three on sunday and by rec and park a wonderful nonprofit like a girl and for the town skate boarding and a contest and more come out in the heart of the downtown and support of overall skateboarding community and delighted to announce the eco center, 14 is important someone to celebrate sharing anniversary as well as earth montana month and learn from the organizations get our hands dirty and join the free games and workshops and refreshments and more the rec and park will be hosting the rescheduled partner park screen popups part of the celebration providing live jazz and the limited edition park your print and so come early and get things and the eco system serves Government Agencies on the outer periphery of the shoreline with 7 miles of beautiful waterfront and an outdoor explosion agency that won the award this is a cool nature playground and it is being unique space for learn and deserves to be celebrated on the 14 birthday. And okay a clearing tree work as part of the trail Improvement Project i want to share some upcoming things what the park will be doing and in areas like upper resolution and cleaning and removing trees hazardous and want to make sure the safety by allowing more sunshine back prepandemic that was a significant natural area in terms of at Significant NationalArea Management and this was essentially a master plan for Natural Resources and that is one of the key were on our way and starting to implement obviously folks are good at reaching trees this is good for the planet and good for the environment and strengthens and promotes the bio different in the space. For every tree removed by rec and park more than one in return for greenery and tree coverage a greater and more constitutional environment and will last to 2025 we hope to end up with a fabulous individually healthy even a more environmentally healthy place and serving to avoid the north birds and that will be use following all the environmental rules and regulations and will transform mclaren park and followup management on i have do we have our oh, okay. Okay. Okay. At the eileen im going to bring up our fabulous 2024 interim for a short presentation on their program as some of the things theyve achieved that was established in not between rec and Park University and includes u s f and now in the 15 year so coming up to meet i and share a little bit about their report your Fabulous Group of our interims i have gotten to know personally theyre fantastic and so were going go to. calling names. we have are so pleased to have you yourself congratulating from some place or another come on and share. Welcome dont be shy. You want me to turn it on . There we go. You can use that one. I my name is im a congratulate student bell ringing im here to talk about the special Development Office space and phil said that was established in not and expanded for undergraduate and congratulates students from the university and the university of San Francisco. So each interim we talk to professionals with the rec and park and kind of shadow them on their careers and journeys so each interim has a focus deals with the unintelligible with the administration and Recreation Program and those our practice well be presenting on may at the lake merced final project for neither project im focusing on commission in the Commission Role ive gone through one hundred and fifty years of files and photos and have reposted who is the historian and. calling names. to talk about about the preserving in the Public Library and with the finding i found i have started to get stories in the vault and i think you guys are read them and theyre connection for everyone in the rec and park will be able to read any newsletter and able to sit in on Commission Meetings and attend Community Events for the community and my project is todays documents are more information as the Commission Liaison said. Hello, everyone my name is im curbing a senior in the be environmental studies and with the professional Development Internship program placed with the Research Program with that program ive been helping with the administration updating the list and as well as assisting with the interview and application process for the summer and mainly creating environmental presentation material. Thank you. Hi my name is julie congratulate at San FranciscoState University in geography and Information Science ive been with Public Health and working on a couple of projects mostly supporting fema and all the storms that happened last year a lot of work that went into this is a little portion of that material and then my second project is working on the general work at the general facilities for working group the action plans. Thank you. Im an under congratulate student with the Administration Program and with this internship ive taken on two projects with the volunteer Services Deals with increasing volunteer capacity as focusing on resemblance tension and other projects with the deals with with Recreation Organization through the calendar and conduct and cooperatively facility events throughout the year. Thank you. Hello good morning. Im congratulate student at the university of San Francisco and upper management and in the park the eco system and i lead stewardship from secondgraders to adults and we have our eco system second anniversary and that is exciting help we get a lot of those coordination internally and externally were have over one hundred people signed up that is a free event by a we ask people to enhance the restoration of that land and lastly, on a plant identification project in the aspiration area will see the garden is identify the species to help to educate others. Thank you. Thank you. Well already theyre impressive get to the point not like me and interims to be celebrated your program is unique this is not just a work but over the years um, the 14 or 15 years in the program have been ideas and projects that our interns are worked on weve incorporated in our projects and i know i a little bit thank you, for being devoted to parks and to the environment and our profession and in the matter of, you know, where youre career takes i hope it stays with parks or directly you know, the messed up world out there so thank you all for being such fabulous no pressure by the way, thank you for being a Fabulous Group of people and compassionate and willing to challenge and that inspires me i think another generation coming behind og to carry of mantel to make sure our parks and beautiful acceptable joyous i appreciate all you guys have done clapping. philly want to shout out to elliott i want to thank you, in the past few months youre wonderful to work with professional and funny and i really on you have inspired me to keep on going. Thank you all right. Last but not least weve got over the next meetings we um, wanted to introduce the commission and the public a little bit more to the fabulous incredible rich recreational programs we offer youre out and about come to events i know youve had an opportunity to experience this first hand but that is so extraordinary we want to share a little bit more about what our Recreation Division dozen were delighted to begin this series of short presentations with elaine who manages our culture Arts Division elaine take that away. All right. Just a minute. Okay. And good morning, everyone my name is elaine Norbert Brown im the culture art manager and recreation we have 6 Different Things have the Culture Arts Department for athletes and our neighborhood Enrichment Services and Community Services and you might be hearing from us for a while i was honored to be the first speaker in San Francisco because ive been working with the Culture Arts Department and not and try to be as brief as possible. Ill start with the Mission Statement to have high experiences that promote creativity and enjoyment and support for all individuals of all ages we strive to inspire, educate and gave me our community through the arts and really quickly negative declaration our overview we have three rec supervisors one we have robby and. calling names. and im kind of filling in here. And culture arts have 4 art centers sharing our studio harvey milk has two interests they offer schedule and different programming one art and science museum. We have the two largest outdoor day places in San Francisco and silver tree and have citywide art programming for all the other rec centers as well. And we have two full service rec centers the gymnasium and things like that and one clubhouse. So really quickly i have a brief overview of different art centers sharing the studios it is the Community Center for the things you dont find at other places surrounding the maintain a glass and jewelry making and there is about 75 Program Offerings for adults and sharon is our coordinator there and Harvey Milk Center is we have lots of things young people teaming for theatre comes companies and how wide craft and other programs Elementary Schools and have digital and visible art classes and mixed media drawings and performing arts ballot and have photography and started upstairs for artwork have anymore ways to offer exhibitions instead of just downstairs and we have an annual art and pride exhibit and drag performances that is the only one in the city run by rec and park all of our staff have been putting together this drag performance for 10 years this year will be the tenth year we have rentals and robby our coordinator and Harvey Milk Photo Center and the largest arts on the westfield if you havent been there we have that is amazing. We have classes in black and white and photoshops and o s o r and one hundred and 75 member develop their black and white photos and have is the David JohnsonPhoto Library it is adventure who is our culture arts manager for years and years it is wonderful addition and our photo labor after David Johnson and melissa is our director shes incredible to keep it together. And Mission Art Center is the other side of mission in the courtyard and young people in the Theatre Company run by the incredible director alvarez and the shows that are featured are at the Randall Museum im making a plug for the musical that is opening that friday will be interactive for all members is full length Broadway Musical and putting two full Broadway Productions a committed group to come three hours a week to learn how to sing and dance and act and get you ready for broadway and shes awesome put together every show connected to some social theme the kids are disso it is social activism component as well. And theres a nonprofit attached to that so we get a lot of recognizing from them and have silver interest day camp not just culture arts but nature we have folded in nature into our discretion with the museum under our once upon a time and tree is the older summer camp i hope to visit there this summer. So it is got a great history awesome traditions and with roosevelt marshmallows and the Randall Museum ive seen many people there we have great family engagements we have animal room, we have field trips are ucsf with the bug day coming up this saturday will be thousands of people there. We have a Holiday Craft gift making and halloween vent and have a randall on the road program because this museum is a free mime but actually at burr no heights we started a mobile randall on the road but that goes around and does lots of programming this managed by our director marcus. I i should say we wouldnt be able to do that without the nonprofit. Next have Tenderloin Rec Center it is Youth Rec Center if you walk in without a kid youre not coming in the doorstep we have a very safe place for the kids of the neighborhoods one hundred to one hundred and fifty kids daily in collaboration with the programs which is were grateful for the support and other Community Partners that help us over there and um, yeah, it is a wonderful place if you havent been there. For noe Valley Rec Center in noe valley up to noe valley and theyre full gym and any given day were open at we have joe dimaggio clubhouse is plastic rick director on our team who really knows the Community Around there and a small clubhouse are pa really, really popular location are a library and swimming pool. Site for a lot of people in the neighborhood so there is joe dimaggio clubhouse and for nonprofits. One is like Halfway House not quite Harvey Milk Photo Center bell ringing the museum and forensics of sharon arts studio helps us with the programming that were going able to offer and last year had 80040 culture arts programming offering 6 hundred 6 thousand plus registered participants of those of half hour for youth and half for adults. A good chunk of them. And we have 16 public arrested exhibits this year most are the photo center and on exhibit and have two Holiday Crafts there managed by sharon arts studio and over to the county fair building and have a huge one at Harvey Milk Center for the art lots of and lots of opportunity if you have any questions. Thank you. Thanks elaine. Okay. Well, that that concludes my report. I dont know if you have a question about the culture arts program or a comment i im so happy that is the First Program we started when i feel this is the program that my family utilities a lot and performed in the manual drag show and our family takes classes they Harvey Milk Center but think that the Culture Arts Department is not associated with rec and park it is incredible the quality of the programs that elaine, you know, i encourage everyone to um, take advantage of those are programs like i said that are free or losing low cost and even better than the most expensive programs in the city so double click on everything i hope more people can use those amazing programs and the team is really i mean everyone in rec and park are great. Thank you thank you for being here. It was a great way to start the meeting. Thank you i appreciate that well, that is a little long by the the general managers report. On to the president s report. Ill take Public Comment on the general managers report any Public Comment on the general managers report today on the general managers. Okay. Come on. Good morning. Im denise a student of ecology dbi logic environment i wanted to um, thank phil for his report and i appreciate the location of the in ram was passed and approved by the commission in ri68, and safety is paramount i urge you rec and park to plant local native plants from other parts of california or the world because a you may have heard there are episcopal narrates that provide us with food and thats why california encourages us to plant local plants any other comments on the general managers report for those own the web e comment on the general managers report unmute the first speaker. Hi this is carol from San Francisco district. Thank you for San Francisco rec and park report on the mclaren park by removing the dye evasive trees and adding plants md 5 mclaren park a part of the biological heritage doing everything we can to improve the health of mclaren park and the eco system are healthy were healthier please continue ma clarion park and for the celebration please consider adding left lane trees and plants instead of adding the one hundred and fifty trees that the people and thank you, for randall highlights the wildlife and a great opportunity to bring wildlife folks together and has and local native plants feed our local wildlife so we need a healthy eco system and rec and park you are the largest land manager in San Francisco so thank you for the good work you do and please add local native plants thank you for your attention. Next speaker. Speaker are you there . Okay. Oh, yes am i on. Yes. Go ahead. Thank you very much. This is i speaking about the ipa item on the agenda regarding the proposed there for. Oh, okay. Youll have to wait until that we reach that item thats just general Public Comment. Thank you very much. Okay. I didnt, no further comment general Public Comment is closed and move to the end report. First of all, really appreciate everyone for being here and for your time it it takes time for the agenda item youre here for and we all really expect that your taking little time out of your day to be here with us. I wanted to comment on the importance of mentorship im proud of our interims and the programs i myself cofounded the program with my union. And we invested in College Journalism the mentors got thank you for your at effort and all youve given to the department yes. I wanted to affirm what commissioner jupiterjones mind our programming i myself are a student in the harvey milk and learned how to do black and white photos and had a great time i cant say enough never had an opportunity to engage it is so 0 fun like treasure forming in front of your eyes. On march 26th very special day i got to join the rec and park staff in an annual called bell ringing the Football Club all womens professional soccer team and do their work in santa fe and one of our dear friends came up in San Francisco and was an awesome day got to meet the founders and staff and some of the players incredible women i highly recommend you guys be a fan of the club i think the next game is telling advised and theyre placing kansas city checkout it out and gave mayor london breed washington of our Football Club athletic jackets i think no one can get their hands on im still waiting for my own laughter and then i meet with the friends of mclaren park if you go to the website rec and park. Org opportunities to store at the nearest or favorite park ive been out volunteering with the place of flowers you need to sign up a little form and find out what you need to show up with and for the friends whether or not the park is on saturday but not always and um, love the volunteers come to take care of our park we have great staff we get even more done with the volunteers i want to express gratitude for the volunteers and finally, rather than sober we have a terrible loss of this young child named meier meyer and hi family participated in the city went to some joe da magazine and she died in her sleep were going to adjourn in his honor and memory his name was meyer Church Vasquez i want to give our deepest condolences 0 though myers family i think thats the report for now. Any comments on the general managers report and sorry okay. And oh, we have one hand raised and a reminder this is commenting on the general managers report caller id like a general public okay. Thank you. Serging Public Comment is closed. Now on item now on item now on item agenda. With respect to agenda items, you will have opportunity to address the commission when the item is reached in the meeting. So i have one card for item 4. From jake. And then if anyone is on the web e you can if i raise your hand you can come up. Um, yes. Welcome jake. Yes. Im speaking to the ma clarion mark trails project im the x Department Employee and working with the department as a volunteer i dont get paid um, the city is fortunate to have a half hour Resources Division to protect the fall resources staff is managing for hundreds of species for plant and animals here for thousands of years and forms the rich bio different because of the competition there are fewer and fewer plants and animals every year the under staffed Natural Resources division is hardpressed removal of the many species is necessary and, yes trees are doing like any other life form and plants but landscaping plants exported from across the ocean left their predators there goes into proliferation bio mass and overwhelms the native plants is sharsz their energy with the food chain that energy bell ringing you have 30 seconds. Um, that food chain for all the organisms that wouldnt exist expect for the native plants and policy eat their seeds bell ringing and eat the roots thats how it works to produce the nature work we love and we contribute the or nothing. Thank you very much. I hope you go ahead with that project. Thank you. So much appreciate your information and. Okay. Denise i saw another comment are you commenting on the same thing. Im an active rec and park volunteer feeling so appreciation and recognize. Still im sure rec and park engages volunteers such as i urge you you to remove the dye trees for protection of wildfire and we are fortunate to have a few years of rain but remember the 2021 transform of three thousand strikes we missed it and. Okay. So lucky so lucky the silver tree was mentioned a few minutes the preschools in grand domain park had a eucalyptus are known to burn. Sometimes to explode i encourage rec and park to think about removing dead dying and dangerous trees to prevent wildfires. Thank you. Okay. Any other general Public Comment in room 416. Two hands raised unmute the first speaker just general Public Comment not for items listed think todays agenda. Hi, i want to give a on sf task with the San Francisco superbowl Planning Committee and kicking off next week to sit down with the representatives to increase microphone distorted and looking forward to getting down to work. Thank you. Next speaker. Speaker are there . Okay. clearing throat seeing none, hands. multiple voices . Can you hear me . Yes we can hear you go ahead and my name is al im a member of health park. I support the diligence throughout this rec and park trails connecting the City Projects including accessibility for the safe community. We desperately need, etc. I support this well planned improvement of ma clarion park trails and asking for your support and approval item number 4. Rec and park um, capital communication and workshops for different 9, 10 and 11 includes other things they have done regarding the ma clarion park trails project. Thank you, staff to rec and Park Department for your time manipulative appreciated. Seeing none, callers Public Comment is closed and we are now on item 5 Consent Agenda one speaker anything you want to remove from consent and. Okay. Move to Public Comment i have one card stephen. Hello stephen and hello there. Good morning, commissioners. Good morning stephen and im for. Purposes of your knowledge you know me on the rec and Park Advisory Committee but actually im speaking on item 8 today. Can you bring microphone closer to you im not sure it is working. Yes. Perfect. multiple voices . Get right up on it there we go laughter . So item d is a 2 million grant va and im excited about that especially with all the comments about ma clarion park im on the collaborative and former chair of the park Advisory Board and the names of parks in the proposal are quite very good for southeast portion of San Francisco and first playground and ma clarion park and this great for us im on the board of supervisors for the library and some of you may have rshld bonnie who started that in 1971 bringing the children, youth, and adults into um, not permanent parking but parks when she started and started the water shed program under the High School Bell Ringing which actually we have children in Elementary Schools and high school and adults who we train them to garden in the urban center this is a proposal to do do same thing with um, not only young adults but, you know, anybody who want to be part of that in planting trees including in ma clarion park im excited bell ringing i hope youll approve it. Thank you stephen. 340e7b8g like to comment on item 5 in the room today . Okay. Anyone that hands raise on the webx . Okay. Seeing none, future callers be Public Comment is closed. Commissioners. Approving the including. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposition . Consent agenda is approved and 6 the San Francisco zoo report. All right. Ingrid. Good morning. You do you have a visual today . Okay. Good morning. Im director of collections for San Francisco zoo and here to give you an update. You have to get closer to the mic there we go. So speaking of pollinators again, we have two grounds the insects team busy before butterflies have been there and started emerging at the end of january and sf zoo finds the grounds in april and the cart perils in they have a positive impact on the environment and have beautiful the insects for more stories as part of the conversion con and currently reside at the center phase one those are the red the blueeyed black and the other animals. And related news begun construction on madagascar phase two and spring and summer mornings are popper that is the time for the senior stroll the first his we offer a place for seniors and watch animals active early in the day with ambassadors to answer questions and talk about animal behavior the tour for 65 gifts and oriental and free for seniors. The Childrens Center enjoyed the visit to the zoo many of children and teachers had never experienced the zoo before and only read about it in books the Center OffersEarly Education and childcare on social and emotional develop for children for homeless and low income families. They enjoyed rides on the carrousel we broadened the Community Outreach we are happy the camp runs for 5 saturdays in the rbo row taught by bilingual instructors at the San Francisco zoo and gardens. We have the african place and the south engage in convolution efforts and other activities and experience unique and other encounters keep a notebook and sketch the convolution messages and adventures and lastly, here are some of the april events april this coming weekends activities on the zoo grounds and april 25th will World Penguin day. Thats the update the zoo. Thank you. Do we have any Public Comment on item 6 . Okay. Any hands raised on the web e move to item 7 the marina small craft harbor anyone has not filled out a blue card please come on up here. Good morning, commissioners. Um, direction of the administration and finance anton this is agenda item is the raising 6 fees for the marina small craft harbor based on analysis from the board of supervisors budget and elective analysts report this is the day for questions from scott. The marina small craft harbor revenues are made up of fees for permanent and rentals as well as other miscellaneous from leases and other concession and for private use of the facilities over the past 6 years the marina fees are not generating revenue since 202020195 point plus Million Dollars have been transferred and further more cover maintenance at the harbor and the gardeners the cost are 250 thousand since 2022, 2023. For quests of president peskin and including the manual fees to reduce the general fund. The b l a wrote on page 16 in the subsidy and submittal money were completely removed from the marina budget and all operating expenditures and expiations were to increase for the following fiscal year the harbor fees need to increase by 31 plus percent to break even of no changes. The department is proposing to effectively raise rates three 4 powering by 25, 26 but 15 plus percent in the east and the west harbors this proposal will make sure the marina is operating and eliminates assets and please note that the three 1 percent is based on the fiscal year 202425 and the marina funds sees an additional revenue reduction and at the time the department will reanalyze this this keep the harbor operating out the subsidies this is not subject to this departmental proposal the budget analysts the dredging assessment that under and next year based on the Controllers Office if approved circulation of cip. Fee increases where this is located and the length of slip the 40 foot slip in the west is charged more than the east 57 more. In february the commission reviewed the rec and park that reduces it by 12 million and one of the departments adopted budget balance and principles quote to preserve the programs and has recreation and youth and by eliminating the 6 hundred and 50 thousand general fund rec and park can we allocate programs like the costs of playground or the cost of 6 custodians or twothirds of the aquatic staff it is approved by the board of supervisors the department will continue to monitor within the marina and march 24th the harbor maintains a weightless program and 80 percent of the west and east marina. The additional revenues is desperately he needed as youve seen an slating need for west harbor since 2014 has operated 1. 5 million in the last fiscal year alone. Additionally a large january 2023 and december caused 10 million of damage to the marina and due to the budget prerepairs and only approximately, one i pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of 5 million of the work was pled in the effected areas and the marina will feel the impact depending on the repairs one thing id like to point out we have to pay this up front and fema didnt have do we reimburse us this is the fuel dock on the slide in front of and fema thousand dollars will not reimburse us for this repair pause the fuel dock was past its age not kept in a state of repair too old and on the following slide. We see more sink holes and storm damage. And then finally damage along the seawall like the large bricks on the portion of the seawall that concludes my presentation. Ill be happy to answer any questions you may have. Okay. Anything i want to say before by move to Public Comment. Public comment first and have i several blue cards if youre here to speak on this place the blue card on the projector and please stand up and prepare yourselves to come up to the mic and 2 minutes to speak and in front of you the time will chime 30 seconds you have 30 seconds left. And start with steve and then phil and then christine. If i could add my of the speakers in the same location or Something Like that i recommend we have two minutes you coordinated it it so someone has something different. Go ahead, please. Steve are you whatever you guys want. Liaison youre in the first group it doesnt matter what order you go in go ahead, go ahead. Hi, i appreciate the opportunity to speak and already spiertdz by the meetings learning about the fun things in San Francisco such a great city i want to step back and talk about the marina because we call it the marina for a avenue lake the marina because a marina boats there and people expected the boats i think that important we focus on the boats owners i didnt geography sailing but a workingclass which i moved to San Francisco i learned about sally want to learn ive taken so many people out on the boat to have a past time and opportunity to enjoy the beautiful marina i think your rates are too high i cant do that when i got that letter another three 1 percent on top of the 90 percent increase ive incurred in 8 years i said my husband agrees we got to get rid of the boat we cant do that anymore i ask you to find another solution i understand you can repurpose the money but lets think about the marina we want to see those boats people are not rich but cant afford those mask rates bell ringing in closing the weighing weight list depend on you have people lined up what happens they put their names on the list for years and years and years when i show them the new fee i think youll lose a lot of people i ask you to go back and take a look at other ways and not talk about the storm not separate i heard about the bell ringing storm my try fell on my roof and. Thank you very much. And steve and bill and allen. Hello, my name is steve. A little bit myself im a retired firefighter and work at city college in the fire program and volunteer at camp mather my wife served for many years Third Generation san franciscan i think i said that except my grandfather born in sidle i was fortunate as the grandson my brother and i required the boat but got fee old to take care of it i can fish on the boat and along with my father has passed. My brother is normally a member due to his sickness i was able fortunate to find a partner to share the cost of the boat by again due to the increased costs associated with the harbors becoming increasingly difficult the last 20 something i thought that was high i thought we should get a cost of living from this point but now with that increase again, people like myself um, who are not rich will be priced anti a matter of economies i want to continue any grandfathers legacy with my boat and family in the harbor i dont think that also a reality. So i ask you to people like myself and others in any situation in mind when youre contemplating your decision perhaps an alternative a compromise alternative sense serious of revenue something that we can do to keep people that have a history in San Francisco in many harbor as part of that Harbor Community bell ringing . Thank you. Thank you. A reminder if i call your name line up if youre able bill and allen and shawn. Good morning, commissioners rec and park has chosen who highlight the b l a maintain the physical sustainability of the harbors other information in the b l a to achieve the subsequent the caption has an area that describes marina features three spaces the green triangle weve inquired at the meeting stay within the harbors in no Uncertain Terms they did but the neighboring parks and the boat owners were subsidizing did upkeep should include the cost of the green space separate and has nothing to do with with the boating but another board of supervisors audit from 1993 theyre under the trustees they use revenues generated by the harbor for services and improvements of low payment or related to the harbors would appear such language to protect the revenues from rp d use the public guidelines gone by the way side for some time with operating counter to the original intention should have been noting no need for the 31. 4 percent increase for the subsequent of marina and revenue is not diverted as a result on a funds for the west harbor to restore the numbers no funds to cocontrol the costs and no funds to pay down the v w lesson focused on more remediation no fund for the docks to stay in business bell ringing . Thank you. Can we have allen and shawn and trying to pronounce not very well. Allen are you here . And again, im going to remind you please try to line up when i call your name. My name is not allen. Okay. Not allen. Hello, im shawna boat in the west harbor ive been a legacy tenant in some respects since my adolescence in the 70s my father had a slip i took over the split up when he died i have a ive seen is marina transition from the original stick pile to the concrete docks and so on a workingclass marina was just been that way it is not a luxury yacht harbor my boat was built in the 80s no title no motor i sale it up and down the channel and the only type of work i can afford frankly, i think were at the point where were going to get priced out this type of vessel will be priced out of the harbor we need to take a closer look hesitate what historic element will go away. And the new west harbor has a hefty price increase we pay property tax on the docks and the water can you believe we pay property tax on the water . bell ringing anyways we do and so when the new west harbor the marina tenants said hey youre to switch along the and rec and park completely go forward us thats why you have the vacancy rate cant be theyre good narrow. One. Im sorry your time is up i apologize as allen and then. U they and adam and please come up to the microphone mark dont matter the order. Hi, my name is adam ive owned a boat with two friends for thirty years. And um, we are all in youre 60s and 70s have very little income over the past two years you, you know, the slip fees have increased over thirty percent including inflation and the dredging we try to hang on by the way, we have a whether we go of the boat and means much for us to to have this boat in San Francisco and we are. Stontd to see increase of three 1 percent after observing the costs of fees over the last year im surprised no way to hang on and really disappointing for us and also note as others pay in parking garage on the boats a slip tax as well. We hope you consider a lot of legacy boats owners will get priced auto by this last proposal will be for the ultimate what we couldnt thank you for your time. Hello commissioners ive begin of given you a handout ill speak quickly a native forgot to mention paid taxes on the boat i poke to him about it owe would oh, i forget about that and bell ringing we pay that in every single year should be a sir, plus not a deficit we should pay nothing out of our it is 7 thousand in the they call 2 a sewer charge they spent over one Million Dollars in a design in east harbor didnt check with the boats owners and the Community People that examine supervisors and got to knocked down to paper over this mistake they have an enormous increase you cant take money from the marina and in the cal boating loan so send this proposal dwraukd and have a fresh proposal that includes this and youll see were breaking taking nothing out of harbor out of the general fund and the weight list the one hundred and 70 people dont own a boat bell ringing someone got a a three 7 people didnt want that and many of the people if i ask the harbor master theyre lateral moves so no movement on the occupancy and mark and then comments are limited to two minutes per speaker. calling names . Hi there thank you for your time ive been a boat holder in the east and west harbor for the last 50 years the increases in fees are astronomical and difficult for people like myself just a regular person sailing to continue to stay in slip it is for weight why a people that have the slips. As you heard from other folks that enjoy sailing out of this harbor out of this marina we live in San Francisco. There are mega yachts the majority of people dont have Million Dollars boats why the analytic documents the first holder are being the ones that are having to pay is this budget shortfall were talking about the the park and millions of people all over the world and our citizens are enjoying that work up to the city should come out of the general fund. And bell ringing as people mentioned were paying another 620,000 approximately each year in property taxes into the general fund being taxed on the boats as well and the assessorsy use of slips so at three 1 percent increase is crazy. Thank you. Thank you. Im mark in the west basin. And trailer any comments around what others have said. I think that is worst emphasizing that the mission of the commission um, is to provide a rich and Recreational Activities for the wellness when youre looking at proposal to raise costs on slips by 31 percent can you ask yourselves is that what we could look at with the costs one hundred and fifty more than other mirena burns so you should be considering why it is so out of whack in San Francisco a what can we do to fix that part of mandate i have been to meetings that were a little bit uncomfortable im speaking in the in front of the marina were presented those were not wellreceived but what was interesting to me as the boaters listening to the commentary of the public and the precipitation that much of 24 was advocated by the boaters but in fact, not i challenge you to bell ringing not let that effect your decisions were a community and entitled to the say respects to my other group that comes before you you i believe you dont know i dont think ill try to make that brief with the presumption of the recreations with an agreement with respect to the space bell ringing and were mistakes. Thank you. Okay. Mark brewer and tamecka and george. Im mark brewer a tenant at the inn both the east and west harbor for 25 years and one of the interesting things about the San Francisco boat harbors one of the jewels of San Francisco that marina has and the surrounding areas are part of San Francisco and but it is being the cost to maintain in every way is found on the boat owners youve heard the boat owners are not in a position to do that so the visibility of marina rests on your decisions to share the cost that is enjoyed by the whole city of San Francisco and in addition the storm damage is going to continue to occur because the Climate Change weve seen that there are stronger and higher assesses and whose 0 responsibility is that it is everyones fault; right . And boat ordinance is adequately unfair. And equally undermining i dont know if any of you are boat owners but please put yourselves in the position of someone who pays property tax on the slip and then landlord comes to him and bell ringing all the facts that you put in and tells us a rent increase of 15 percent this year and next year and the trends of saddling you put yourself in our position and preserve the beautiful bell ringing thank you. Tomecka and george and joe bell ringing two minutes here we go and greetings commissioners grateful for the work you, you do im here to echo the sentiments of those who spoke before any im a San Francisco native im here representing myself but my father joseph who just told me was like hes been an owner of a slip since 1987 so here to say i was introduced to the sailing boats the water bell ringing and out and just enjoying the very nature of the San Francisco as young toddler im turning 50 this year 50 years who knew how fast San Francisco has changed and for the better im keeping my fingers kroolgsz please, please, please reconsider and rethink this current rate increase um, im thinking culture diversity and legacy ive heard from im speaking on behalf of my elder senior father where this funding this money think of who youre taxing and raising those rodents if there is anything i can do or we can do to work harder to raise this i understand to raise funds so bell ringing those rates will not be increased please let me know we can not have a disbursement and currently dealing with employment i have been pushed out housing with my mom have been pushed out and now any therapeutic rendition sailing to the water and a lovely bridges now i am bell ringing bittersweet im hoping that is not going to be the end end. Thank you. George, joe and allen. Thank you commissioners for listening to this no one likes to talk about budget. Anyway so thank you for that. My name is george i am have a boat in west harbor and coughing one thing i wanted to emphasize like the remarks about all the things we pay the property taxes are in the budget. And i think still going to find we no one likes this but to raise more money where will the money come from higher fees and but first, i think 40 percent of my boating each year is in fees and taxes i was shocked to see 70 and 80 and 90 slips one to two percent of boat values with the fees taxes. So if you have to allocate more fees lets do that i consider a fairway how richer people pay at the and we have joe and allen and anyone else wants to speak go ahead and line up. Okay. And good morning commissioners im joe thank you for the opportunity i have been a one of our tenants since 1982 and here to ask please not rush into that increase because we got out of think ill advise plan to rushing both an illadvised plan to raise rates without whether or not youll be losing money with consumers ive been working with bruce and monica and trying to take a look at at the actual costs are bell ringing to increase money and here to say dont rich that you wouldnt have the money for this anyway in the projects are not built and allen and then mary key and mary lynn. Come on i like many of the orders fourth generations on the dads side a chief engineer my grandfather and had a slip in the marina 56 since i was a little kid i have had a slip too. I recently recognized into the east harbor and at least three or four times and stolen once and taken up the river a Marina Police and saw my boat beached on island 0 fortunate to get it back but in terms of many of us are there we a lot of love im a pleasure boost myself but by the harbor master were a chance for a revenue by charging for parking for nonslip Members Around the marina i dont know. He was going to have the parking fee invested but, of course, i would hope you but sound a good idea and the seawall was built one hundred years ago to be paid are for by a fema and youll know more about that bell ringing i totally agree with the people its a shame to make the slip rent so high on top of unsecured property taxes they tax us for the boat we already own and feel there must be a different set of eyes put on this whole situation. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. Looks like we have three callers waiting in the queue press star three and unmute the first speaker. Hello background noise. yes. Go ahead. Thank you very much. And ive been a marina boost for over 10 years and seen the judge the staggering increases since 114th street gone up three nature times what was 10 years ago and kur78 paying a 21 percent to cover the dredging we heard that was a temporary increase and yet were here saving that will stay the same and another three 1 percent on top of that with the crisis this is a self supporting marina or up at park been so many parts egress executives as boat owners and what the previous speakers said not everyone is a boat owners and only a few millionaires thats the direction you guys are heading. The boaters are a giving over 700,000 towards this project and the bettering fees are the highest in the United States and thats bell ringing what and are results in the regular joe boat owners and the long term slip opt outs bell ringing thats any finishing comments. Thank you for your time. Thank you, next speaker. Im a parttime owner i want to talk about the wait list my partners and i have been working for in anticipation of the rate hikes i have to tell you over two months been zero interest i posted on greg list and no interest from anyone in the crowd wants to pay the proposed upper limitation thats a signal youre logic is flawed and will end up with a lot of slips. You know, finally, i have the time a lot of tourists that walk down the Marina Boulevard and sometimes ill offer to take them on sailing and thats the highlight of their visit when youre in college i have youre not going to have that spirit on the waterfront please reconsider and we to take a look at what the funds will be going to thank. Next speaker. Im a boat owner in the west harbor also and first of all, i want to say as harbor master thank you for the staff theyve done a fantastic job. And unintelligible i think the Financial Analysis is flawed with the contribution boat owners and tax and property taxes and slip fees and the dredging assessments and the actual allegations so i it out those slips are not turning over that as described by the boat owners not projected here lets step back and get a better analysis and move forward based on that. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Seeing none, speakers anything else didnt get a chance to speak on this item before move on. Okay. Public comment is closed. Commissioners. Okay. Commissioner mazzola has questions go ahead. Thank you for the report and thank you for the public firing comments today very insightful i have questions at the antonini want to for Public Comment in our minds where the budget projection is wrong what is left out i heard that and want you guys to respond to that. Yeah would say that working closely with the budget analyst regarding what was left out the report measured what is the current marina budget and operating fund it looked at the expenditures within the operating fund measured and then looked at what is outside of marina fund we heard in some that have the comments today that um, slip holders are subsidizing operations that is not the case right now. So none of the gardening work is expensed and the structural costs are marina costs and what the budget analyst looked at was those costs are also taking place at the marina when someone responders to a call didnt show up in the marina and the gardening that is charged in the general fund and the open space fund not the marina so i think that is a perspective that right now bell ringing are subsidizing work at marina green and. 10. Administration calendar discussion item Operations Oversight Committee report. If i buy a cup of coffee or a lobster role from the truck that if support any of the gardening work in marina green it supports the marina 650,000 general fund that is take place right now and the general fund is subsidizing the marina. So if we didnt approve those this answers any second question would positions be cut bell ringing . From the staff down there. I mean could that is a possibility. Well as part of faeb that is evaluated by the mayor weve submitted 20,000 for salary cuts and marina assistant that will be dleementd were required by the Mayors Office to delete positions. And even if with the fee there were still looking at potential cost reductions within the marina fund if we does not get if fee increase and stay state of the art was that given by the board of supervisors. The budget and analyst respect complicated did number that take a look at under various scenarios so the report stems from the whole idea around cost related to the marina recession project and look at scenarios, you know, future and what happens in the stooshg and the current revenue at three percentages what is the increase needed to get rid of that that is directly coming from commissioner safai and president peskin. Two more questions i heard different answers from different people under Public Comment what that was the last time rates were raised. The slip holder rate has been gamechanging an manual three percent or cip whatever is greater in the east harbor and when we talked prior to the meeting i had a call that the east harbor was raised that is the west the fees go up by cp i and any thard charged and that was roughly an 18 percent charged to the west harbor two estimates for the dredging at the west harbor and the overall slip rate i should mention the three 1 percent is for slip holder and charged by the marina and last question two questions how many people are on the wait list and how many slips are vacant. I think for the wait list i want to make sure i let the harbor master discuss i know that is 88 percent when you find do actual vacancy number of the exact slips in the west harbor scott you want to talk about the wait list. Encouraging people pay a 109 fee to stay on the wait list. Good morning scott. The wait list itself has one hundred and 60 people on the wait list and there is comments about well, some people do a transfer we had transfer three or four times over the last 8 years under the wait list but not everyone on the wait list just in the marina itself and accurate to buy a bigger boat or the other half of people who are looking to bring in a boat. You know, for example, i have my own boat at oyster in south San Francisco and have a gentleman with an 85 and 65 footer ready to go and on the wait list. Thats an example people are looking for a berth but want to be up in San Francisco marina and, you know, i agree the prices are different around the bay but san diego prices are almost double bell ringing okay. Thank you. Ill let other people speak. Vice president hallisy. Anthony thank you for your comments those proposed increases does not effect the concessioners in my way snaishg. No necessary do not. Now and the remaining questions are just following up on some of the comments i heard today. Um, so we have roughly one hundred and 60 people on the waiting list paying on manual fee of one hundred and 9 to remain on that list. Has the department told the folks on the watts list regarding their interest to remain on that list if this increase is implemented . Scott you dont know i dont believe we have i think basically the interest is if someone pays because an manual requirement in order to stay on the wait list we can do that but pole and see if they want to remain on the wait list based on the fees. Jill had a comment additional christine commented as well if we do have an x disfrom the west harbor and we who seems like would put us in a quandary. Agreed. Now then finally mark had a comment regarding parking and anton 0 you may not have an answer to this question any idea when charging for parking could main in a reduction of the 31. 42 percent over the next years. We complicated that 31. 4 percent is an estimated Million Dollars increasing and parking what was an increase and go ahead sarah. Commissioners sarah. multiple voices. i would like to know that applying paid parking to the marina would require legislation that would be to the board of supervisors. So youll be hearing hear from folks on that as well. Okay. And many more than just come back parting is used by majority of uses. Thanks sarah the question is a rough question on the those percentages or how much those percentages are used reduced. We worked with the mta i want to say 2019 to analyze that and startup costs associated but the revenue generated once youre upcoming is similar to this about one Million Dollars annually. Thank you. Sarah. And thank you, ann anton y 0. So weve listens to a lot of Public Comment about that issue not just today and like i want to put everything back if context a remediation clean up that needs to be done and, you know, we sympathy news with the slip owners we do. This report was this was going to the board of supervisors and they requested that report be conducted this is not something that the department requested but the results of the board of supervisors and so were here to listen to we sympathize with you and here to discuss that for a possible action but ive heard a lot and the board of supervisors need to hear about that and maybe we recommended you return to them since this is their finding theyre request im proposed today to take action. Um, were here to offer our sympathy. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner and commissioners thank you so much. I love the water i love sailing it is something i did with my stepfather and, you know, i grew up in Southern California those when his father passed we couldnt keep we lost the slip as well and so i also emphasize and sympathize the boat is expensive i have a few questions because, you know, were not supposed to respond to Public Comment but i think there were great points made so you are heard and were here to try do what is best for its entire community and no one likes. In my tour of duty with the same city and county of San Francisco so my questions are resupposed to make a profit or to break even . It is to break even and there is another clarifying point if i may was talk about the personal property taxes and interest takes and paid by the slip see holders those are general taxes for police and fire and dph or because of the and roughly a third of taxes go to schools not like that comes down directly to rec and park and our operator at dp c pay personal property taxes back to the county so that didnt come to us were talking about the slich holder revenue trying to break even and have the Million Dollars to cover costs within the marina so right . So my next question on that is to cover costs within the marina there was your honor, Climate Change is everyones issue. As well. And there has been dredging in the past because of storms because of Climate Change and how much has that cost . So i believe i had in the presentation a cost of 5 point like took exact with the numbers. And 5. 2 sorry that was the general fund. 5. 4 million since 2014 since this past year means has not increased due to stronger storm surges in the marina. It is getting worse. It is getting worse. Those general fund unfortunately, i dont control state or county taxes the harbor is under our jurisdictions as this body i dont like to pay more taxes and fees either. So a serenity prayer. Versus what i cant. laughter so but my question is then remind moo me have a slide how much is the one . 5 million what else does that cover. multiple voices . The cost of nine hundred and 50 thousand direct general Fund Transfers the cost of two playground the cost of roughly 6 gardeners or aquatics instead of that supporting marina we dont have enough marina revenue dedicated we can reallocate that or the current spread throughout the city in a time we commenced a budgetary with over he 12 million for reductions. My next question when is that proposed to go into effect. The legislation has been not limited to to the board of supervisors. So the yacht harbor built on a quarterly base the ordinance will be as i said by the mayor and potentially july beyond july the next quarter after that. The three 1 percent there for this fiscal year. Over two years we want to phase it in so lower than the burden frankly because like we understand but, yes it is over the next few years. Okay. That means will be a 15 percent increase. 15. 7 percent next year the following year and effective 31. 4. Did that include cp i and no essentially charging a 3. 67 percent increase and what is are we obligated to do when it comes to announcing or talking about the fees, etc. I understand the process were here today april trying to give folks how much time . To adjust . So as i recall a notice was sent out to the slip holders this fee is proposed i believe will not go into effect if that approved by the board of supervisors until july so clearing throat i dont know if anyone else you want to add. When does the notice go out. Ii believe in the middle of march. Middle of march. Okay. So this is good that were having again folks are coming and were talking about this. With the notice every month and emails to the and. multiple voices. owners receive direct contact a letter in march. Wet actually sent out emails almost every week of things going on in the marina and have email addresses for all boat owners we sent that outdone that numerous times at least three times. You have to take care of the marina whats happened if i dont dredge . And there is two things. A water level we have to maintain. And through a Lease Agreement with the st. Francis and have folks running aground in the channel before we dredged last year, we were projecting e probing every week had one or two boats run aground usually sail boats. This year well note the increase but we let things go. We couldnt say using st. Francis if we do not dredge at that point certain death then they have the option in this lease i understand to dot dredging themselves and then religious theyre represent from that. Respect why dont you want to keep a boat in a harbor that doesnt take care. The harbor is the depth when you have a boat on water and in and out. I deeply understand the marina and i also deeply understand and said that go before we have to make a decision about our job and again, what is in our jurisdiction so i understand that some folks want to delay that is a mistake. I also understand how to connect, you know, with the comments how expensive and challenging living in San Francisco period. And not just with fees i think, you know, property taxes were due april 10th that hurt among other things and monday was april 16th and San Francisco is is one of the most expensive places im opposed to moderate and ask staff to modify the fees a resident and nonresident well direct staff to reduces the residents fee and increase the non resident for an amount to make sure the change is cost neutral. I want to be specific in my language not a part of the what boac supposed to do with were not trying to make a profit not scamming anyone again, i understand those are needed and make sure that residents within San Francisco are able to stay and enjoy this also thats my motion. I have motion. Can i ask my question and lets keep the position active but we have questions. All right. So we are now going to have discussions on commissioners motion. Hopefully. Some other questions. I have clarifying questions i actually like like this idea and this agenda item in response to commissioner louie potentially delaying that as that is originally sent to us and antonio were deciding whether to recommend or amend but going to the board of supervisors whether. multiple voices. of we dont do anything need the clarification. Yes. The legislation has been introduced at the board which means its sitting and waiting for hearing we do this to time it to line up our expectation we would like to have this heard in the Budget Finance Committee in the next couple weeks, yes moved to the board with a final say and we see sometimes they listen to our recommendations and sometimes they dont; right . Ultimately the board of supervisors will make the final call on this; correct . And yes and with the process. And in response to the commissioners suggestions can we do that is that kosher. Well obviously, have to go back and do the math to understand how to be cost neutral and if im finding correctly reduce San Francisco residents rates um, by how much commissioner were you looking at us doing that. I would say 20 percent. Do the math to determine what that increase will be for nonresidents and residents and make those changes in the legislation. Um, either at the committee or i think we have a nonresidency for other reading or; right . Programs westbound the so it is. For my own sake i like this idea of a resident and nonresidential Fee Structure i dont know if im ready to put a number on 2 versus it be aligned with residents and nonresidential but with the idea not to not increase the San Francisco resident fees. Yeah. I guess i dont know about the number i dont know if i i know with recommended you want to reduce that by 20 percent . I think that is up to the staff to you all can figure out again were in a budget. Right and situations analytical we all have to do the same work; right . Were in a deficit. In the spirit of again voting failing having to vote is expensive a lot of people are out of that paying for residents again, we want this as your home and stay home as much as possible at the same time i cant go against Mother Nature and trying to find a Common Ground and solution no one will like me but thats those are my thoughts. Do we know what percent of the current slip holders or residents versus nonresidential uses. 5 three percent are nonresidential and okay. Those are my questions. Okay. I have a long list of people; right . Counsel i request to speak or so back to Vice President hallisy then commissioner louie. With all right to my fellow commissioners i have to vote against that motion i think the board board of supervisors has put us in a funny spot to figure this out this is think in the past they are dumping this on us, we shouldnt be put in in situation id like to vote down that motion and make another motion to send it it back to the board of supervisors with a no recommendations they do all the time in the committees. Okay. Commissioner mazzola we already have motion on the table with the commission were to continue to discuss her idea but come back to what i said. Okay . All right. Commissioner louie. Okay. I appreciate uneveryones efforts to get that behind us but listened to Public Comment for a reason ive heard dproi the slip owners that increase is just not, you know, a cpi like a sock it to them increase in all famines i find if very hard to take an action on the voting on that this is again something that were supposed by some of the board of supervisors and since at the end of xoubld youre right to end they make the decision i dont like being the bad guy in all famines we dont have the equation for the nonresidential and residential if im an slip owner i want to know how much im going to be charged how can we vote on that . Okay. Commissioners. Would like to see um, say a couple of things one of the board of supervisors is always goes to do what theyre going to do im not sending everything back to them otherwise, i think were waisting our time if we have no recommendation. Um, were psa on a lot of things im happy to, you know, to entertain other motion but about see if we have a second and other amendments im happy to hear them as well. Commissioner. So it seems to me we need more analysis deny by the department to do a nuance approach and pass it down to the budget we cant keep going to the general fund. I wonder like the residential and nonresidential as well. Um, just wondering we can um, to larrys point were moving this process along and deeper analysis in the department on were saying 47 percent of boat owners are nonresidential so we should have done the work on what the increase were to not increase the rate for residentials or more modified and how much do we keep in touch with the boat owners with theirs being in San Francisco may take a three 1 percent increase for nonresidential can we do this analysis moving it to the board of supervisors and ultimately kicking it back to them. Thank you for the question we can we have the data for residential and nonresidential the circulation is simple as for surveying on the wait list im assuming we can do that as well bell ringing and move it along for the board of supervisors. Um, commissioner mazzola. One last point um, to the commissioner about us not doing our jobs without further ado, a prudent thing to do nod a copout but they have more information than we have they had an 8 hour presentation at union hall about about the budget of 800 million and proven that number was inflated im not saying we have a big budget promising problem i protect jobs for a living i dont want to see jobs cut we need a rate hike but the board should answer that and the budget is not as bad as theyre saying it they board can kick in mower i think we should go back in the a copout and not that i dont want to do any job but perfectly clear. Before you speak bill i want to comment on commissioners motion. And also agree we should look at residential and nonresidential we look progressive increases on the size of boat um, i think that there is some Creative Things we can do with that and we have time to if this goes to recommendations to the board of supervisors we have time to come up with some information that can be shared with us and still, you know, honor that rate increase will happen some sort of rate increase will happen im not sure day we know exactly when that looks like but we have time. What do you think commissioner . Nonresidential and residential and the progressive based the size of boat slips [off mic. ] madam president. We have that the slips with 28 percent higher than the lower slips. Yeah. Im sorry, i know that but talking about even more like increasing even more and taking the pressure off some of the smaller slips and we also might look at whether that is moisturized or nonmotorized do we do 12 sort of thing in harbor harbor masters . We have few the lenar are nonmotorized and theyre sale boats are meters as well. In other harbors are you familiar with the other harbors have the dredging issues we have. I know i sit on the mud every night and most of the boats cant leave at certain times in the east bay summer not dremd for years theyre actually closing them down every harbor has its own issues. Right. Some is dredging and some general maintenance and the age of their docks it is variety a mixed bag out there were the oldest of the baird. I mentioned that the higher fees even with the increase . Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yes commissioner louie. I have a quick question we talk about the one hundred and 60 people on the wait list. How active is that waiting list and based on a briefing we had about the marina i heard i was told that people have to pay manually to stay on the wait list is that true and another thing people on the wait list receive little combhunths proposed increases . The answer your first question of the one hundred and 60 plus on the wait list i got to get my question straight in my mind the wait list most 6 boats or people with the boats are they come in and know the rates we usually hand them the information when theyre signing up for their wait list. Whats the fee. One hundred and 9 you believe. Annually. Annually and so check or credit card they call it in im sorry, i lost track of the what was the sick question thank you the people on the wait list. multiple voices. and typically not unless theyve asked to be on the wait list i have to check with staff how many are on there. Im sure that changes the status of the wait list. Seems to not people own the wait list if theyre looking for a certainsized berth boaters mainly want to be closet to their yacht club arrest a certain capacity to park. Some are disabled they want to walk the shortest distance to their boat everyone has a diversity issue not just the debt and size berth. If you know that is 700 a month by nine hundred now i might take myself off the wait list and im sorry mr. Ginsburg. It is there a motion on the floor and the original item before you but i need to remind you this budget situation is real and requires a tough decision and requires a decision not everybody will like. Yes, we are increasing the marina harbor by 15 percent and cybersecurity and fuel costs bell ringing and costs are going up between 5 and 10 prosecuting and water and power are between 10 and 15 percent. Our philosophical to pay for the staff that provides accessible rick programs that keeps our parks clean and safe. We are currently subsidizing that with the general fund. We went to the board of supervisors and said given the fact that we have a humane remediation challenge in the east harbor has has to be rebuilt and pencil in the long term we suggested a Public Comment i appreciated though the person if support the fee increase the first Public Comment it is harbor. Its where boats go. We wanted to put more boats in the harbor so that the harbor can be sustainable on its own. The board is said no, i double the people advocated for more boats in fact, people got up here and proposed more boats in the harbor so then what points budget analyst said okay. No more boats the way you make the harbor pencil increase by 15 percent a year. Thats how we got to the thirty percent thats before you today. And we can kishd or take the recommendation but youll see painful decisions come before you for the next few years the reality of the budget and i would encourage you to grasp with that and commissioners work in response a small percent of the slip holders are san franciscans and their rates Public Comment about that, you know, were san franciscans and this is our harbor and the commissioners work raised the idea of residents and nonresidential precedent for that in the mechanical gardens for example, and there is precedence for that. And but this is not complicated it is not complicated for us to take your distribution and make a reduction in the Fee Structure for san franciscans. That penciled we within a simple piece of paper reduces the residential fees and increase the nonresidential have that conversation. But it seems to me that taking no action kishd providing, you know, without this commission willing to support that in my mind chances of the board supporting that are less. And then commissioner mazzola will capture with us and have difficult decisions for cost recovery. This is the reality were in when the costs of us delivering Services Continue to increase . Without being able to keep up to the revenue to pay for those services reduces the level of services or there fees now and so i encourage you to take that. Commissioner jupiterjones. Here in face of getting forward he with motion and second. This is an amendment. So i would like to propose i will make the second if any fellow commissioners might make an amendment to the specific 20 percent so im suggesting that a motion to um, i guess would be to approve can i row read how you said the original motion please. Yeah. I wrote to down. Discussion and potential actions to remedy the board of supervisors raise the fees for services at the marina and to create a Fee Structure is reflects the fees for residential and nonresidential uses in alignment with other Fee Structures within the rec and park. So not a 20 percent. I didnt ask 20 percent up and down or [off mic. ] yeah. When i feel comfortable with doing right now is not saying 20 percent but saying were cost neutral; right . The end result but of that and lowering rent fees for that residents and increasing for nonresidential uses that makes that the 20 percent we i dont know enough if that works. Okay. Um, so what i read and i asked in alignment with other Fee Structures. Yeah. And multiple voices . Okay. Fines. So youre ceqa that im going to second that i want to respond to what phil just said were absolutely not the first this is the first but not the last time were going to have to make hard choices we approved the budget and allotted the fees whatever the situation and with the ucsf i work for a nonprofit and it is rough in the city any maintain priority and goal to protect our rec and park employees. And so im not im going to be looking for things that sit us up to not let anyone lose theyre jobs so cost of living increases were meagerly while Public Schools and other institutions are cut no objection . Id like to second this motions. Ive offered a infringe amendment needs to be responded to. To your amendment will be that we increase the three elaborate categories of slip sizes by im going to say 5 percent more they pay 5 percent more than the three smaller slip sizes. Thats my friendly amendment. Would you accept that . [off mic. ] im not comfortable with making a percent without letting people do that annually. Direct us cost neutrality and come back to amend the regulation for two things one would be a few distinction between residents and nonresidents and the second would be an increase to the scale of fees based on slip size. Yes. And lets the experts like you guys figure it out. So the grairlz are cost neutrality. Im in alignment with that. If you make those amendments quo will make those changes to the legislation well notify the board of supervisors and send it to the liaison that goes before the board of supervisors im. Im to reads with one time with the commissioners including the amendment and action to recommend that the board of supervisors raise the services at the harbor and reflects the different fees for residence and nonresidents and an increase for the scale of fees based on the slip size and how does that sound phil. A quick question that is all about numbers once the fees changes are put into play will we see all the numbers before that go forward . Thats a great question. What i think that is plan the commission to see give us specific but here are the policy goals our policy goal number one, to create somewhat discounted rate for San Francisco and number one, is cost neutrality. Right we we need to end up with the same anybody theyre asking us to amend the legislation that is going to the board of supervisors to fundamental things to create a fee distinction between nonresidential and resident slip hollers and asking us to um, and increases to large slips. Yes. Well make those amendments and report them back to you but the idea would be passing this and passing the item today with those two momentums well certainly return the dwlalz some market. And were happy to come back in 6 months or 12 months and talk about this again. Excuse me im personally not comfortable passing something moving forward something forward unless i have specifics thats my opinion. Thank you Vice President hallisy. So im willing to support this but like to add one thing. Another amendment i guess. Infringe ask the board to free up more money for this to balance the budget so doesnt impact those people as much and ask them that question theyre budget is better than that they thought maybe they can help thats all i have to say. Thank you commissioner mazzola. Im sorry manager ginsburg. I need to understand a little bit more commissioner mazzola we submitted a budget about a 12 percent cut keeping 90 percent vacancies on the positions but thats were you want to direct it. Yeah. I want to direct it here those kits dont happen and to he means im sorry in the marina harbor budget or the rec and park budget . One other point of reference. Im sorry commissioner, i may have misunderstood you but one other reference the budget you passed called for which is a little bit outside of the purview by your budget calls for 5 million in the increased earned revenue in year two we dont hit that target. Next years our budget will be 5 times more difficult. Context for everyone so im not well, you know, commissioner is responsible for whatever last thing that you what i want to make sure i understand it and do the rest if you understand what im trying to say . Yes. And im trying to close is loophole without cutting jobs or anyone else maybe more influx from the city somehow three lowers the cost of the residence for those people thats all im saying. You might want to have a time to see what is happening and revisit that after a year well know more because were hearing Different Things about the state of the budget and you learned weve been heckling or hearing whether will play out over time so add friendly amendment were revisit that. Madam clerk if i may i think i understand commissioner mazzola saying if a the board chooses to it subsidy the harbor with future funds good luck. I thought an easy way to explain that. Challenges in full transparent i know youre not keeping the room happy by saying that the board subsidies did harbor then that is, you know, that is got to prioritize what is reinvesting in; right . Our budget to begin with is not great that 5 million hit im asking you want to move your chips. Hopefully they can give us enough to cover it all. Fair enough. Did you want to add any language to the motion you have already approved . Im not writing it laughter . I wrote it out if you want me to okay. And to direct the board of supervisors to direct the surplus for the extra costs within the department . Okay. Uhhuh. Fine. Okay. So long reference. Can we hear the motion. From top to bottom and. Recommend in the board of supervisors raise the fees for various serves thank you Marina Marina small craft harbor and create one that creates different fees for residents and noncompliant within the rec and park and increase to the scale of fees based on the slip size and direct the board of supervisors to direct a portion is surplus to rising costs within the department. Second. Im going to call roll on the motion. Starting with Vice President hallisy, no. Commissioner jupiterjones, yes. Commissioner louie 90, no. Commissioner mazzola impresses. And president anderson that is 5 yeses and two nos the the motion carries. That was not easy and our Public Comment helped everyone. Thank you. Now youre next goal to the board of supervisors. All right. Were on 8700 indiana street and shadow on esprit park. Just let me know when your presentation is up. Presentation should be up now. Go ahead and. Okay. Good afternoon, commissioners and general manager im a planner in the Capital Planning division today joined by the Planning Department staff and charles who will present a portion of presentation with the Public Outreach and public proposed project at the 700 indiana street and should be note that the review of shadow on esprit park supports objective to strengthen the quality of facilities. As a reminder your review of shadow on esprit park it carotid if i had by the section and the 1989 memo adopt by the rec and park and Planning Department. Well begin but going over 700 indiana street replaced a vacant commercial building with a laboratory and todays the site is across the street from the park and later on ill go into the detail about the park and shadow on esprit park but invite my colleague to talk about the Public Benefit the proposed project and before he begins id like to note that 9 letters of support have been present from Industrial Work for staurpts. Thank you phoenix. Hello president anderson the project in the potero hill as dog patch neighborhood three thousand square feet and east of the interstate 2 free approximately 90 feet west and up typographical in got u n u and height and bulk district a south abut along the dog park due to the location within a public rightofway that objected the encroach permit and he north abut does it the dog park plaza at 2017 with the encroach permit and with the inkind agreements. The proposal before you is a three tire nonscience building with 5 three subterranean parking and barkers and more than 400 feet of street trees consisted with the dog patch the Public Benefits are more than 4 hundred feet of landscape improvements and for the hiring program and support of citys biennial Network Within the bicycle parking and bike repair stations and for workers of the building. bell ringing and um, Public Outreach as noted by the phoenix the Planning Department did not receive the letters in support of project by those are directed to our commissioned and in addition received bell ringing one letter in opposition from the dog patch neighborhood sobers and items theyve highland in opposition were the project sponsors consistency in following their neighborhood grownups Development Revenue process. The proposed arts plaza improvements were not requested by d m a. Shadowing of the shadow on esprit park was a concern and lastly, concern of the neighborhood compatible with the life science uses. The project is subject to planning code Section Three 29 nor a large project authorization for seating 29 thousand square feet and that is subject to prevail by the Planning Commission and similarity will adopt that for shadow on esprit park. Im here if you have any questions and also present how supervisor alex thank you and the applicant is here as well. Im going to transition to the facility charles talked about as you can see the project site in the dog patch neighborhood and from the park the project site is bounded by 280 to the east and to the north termination at dog patch the dog park a Property Line opened owned owned as a reminder it is under construction for complete park recommendation and expected to be completed at the end of the summer it is located at the bottom of the graphic with the proposed project across the street but not on the graphic 1. 84 acres by bound by 19 street to the one of the 5 story buildings surrounding the Light Industrial the renovation is transitioning to a high density neighborhood and better to accommodate the level by all users including for dogs and for more strolling and wrun specific uses and off leash dog place will be made and off leash is not allowed except for service dogs. Now transition to the quantitative and qualitative of the shadow analysis 7. 65 annual sunshine or is currently shadowing the proposed project adds 20017 percent of shadow bringing the shadow on the park 9 pointed 82 percent and the shadowing is think november 6th and 6 15 p. M. And quantitatively will be starting at around 4 30 the shadow is two hours for the coverage of 8 thousand plus or 10. 86 percent and the shadow occurs on the western edge along the southern edge in the summer months impacts the adult areas for picnic tables and at the western half of the dog play area. So this slide provides for the shadow that is helpful in visualizing the impact on the park that project site in orange and the footprint is in blue represents frequent shadows the project shadows most frequent around the project and become less for the parking streets less frequent shadows that is graegd shadows this never occurs at once but year around not before 4 30. And to help the shadows throughout the day the time lapse during the summer sole starts at 5 30 p. M. And effecting the western edge of the park that includes the experience and the picnic tables it impacts the including a portion of dog play area. The timing. In closing i like to highlight the 1989 is quantitative and the qualitative the shadows will have an impact upon the use of park and quantitatively no standard foreshadowing increase for parks two acres in size that indicates for a street park it is 23 acres in size and experience 7. 65 percent shadows and adds 2. 17 percent of shadowing with an increase below the 20 percent thresholds in the representatives and qualitatively considers the time of the day and shadow duration and location and public goods by project the shadow one year round not present during the day and after 4 30 as lasts two hours the western portion is effected on some of those picnic tables and portion of the dog play areas are impacted and to use the same equipment will not be experiencing shade and that concludes my presentation. Both mr. Davenport and staff and i are available for questions. Christy come up and speak. Um, hi, everyone i had a good morning but now afternoon and use tobacco a teacher and cant believe i took my students for the opening um, anyway, im not moderna teacher but the oldest and layering association for science in california. Um, we strongly urge you to put this provides union jobs but on creating life treatments and im excited to see this project move forward and hope you approve it. We have yeah come on up. Hi, good afternoon thank you for including that on the agenda i serve in the bio labs for the project and want to thrill about what who we are and provide flexible biotech startups to make this assessable to any one allowing them to turn their ideas and dreams we believe the startups are important change in the world and help Many Companies to get started by providing small affordable increments with Operational Support and assess to the database and provide an invaluable neglect of partners and do our best to foster a Dynamic Community of peers working shoulder to shoulder. When i was a second Year Graduate student i made a discovery studying cataracts and identified how to reverse cataracts without the need for surgery the first in my early 20s by in 2013 i started that technology to the point it is now going to Clinical Trials bell ringing wouldnt have done it without the Organization Additional i came back back to join the team and paid it forward for the next generation for startups and entrepreneurs nbc has helped launch over Many Companies and have a total of 22 actually Clinical Programs and trials today and the first drug for nbc company to get approval later on this year. Um, together all of those Small Businesses working towards their own mission are collectively at productive as one of the Largest Pharmaceutical Companies in the world but brilliant young scientists to create the port nbc as well as the neighborhood and San Francisco commission we dont want to have to turn away deferring entrepreneurs and thats our goal in moving forward with that project thank you so much for your or for a consideration and the important work you do and appreciate that. Any other speakers in the room on this item. If i can get the computer please. John with rose on behalf of the bio lab i thought little 1989 provided in quantitative no strike limit on the shadows cast just to be clear, to start them some um, looking at the shadow map several mitigating factors first, the shadow study i think you know doesnt consider the mature trees will remain for many years and the next feature of the park and second the shadow site is not capped by those exciting mumps trees significant for a late day late in the day. And finally, as mentioned the plans for the street park on the northern half of the dog park the practical actual not shadow cast by the project will be mostly on intend for a dog play area. As you can see the vast majority will fall on the park after 4 30 in the spring and summer but diagram no new shadows in the spring and fall if start between 5 and 6 00 p. M. And the summer take a look at those in the past decade i want to mention this commission been 4 projects on the shadow on esprit park all requirement by the commission and the project site were proposing the lab building to otherwise developed with the residential with density bonus a project point city will not have the determination i actually worked to sell it and all the other purchasers were looking at this as you can see that the shadow cast by the project on the screen will be multiple times greater than than by this project so the property project develops one of the last onsite and offsite and so thank you. Im here if you have any questions. Thank you. Okay. Are you all speaking. Okay. Come on up. Good afternoon, everyone im dr. Warner a chemicalist in the labs early stage developing person Care Products for women starting with hair die the 6th hair dies one permanent hair die is as high as 45 degree of developing cancer and before joining nbc were any achieving 5 of a patents wouldnt have done it without without nbc has appropriated us with the equipment and facilities and support necessary to turn our vision into reality, in fact, only one that is accommodate the facility requirements captioning is ending at this point due to the time limit provided for captioning its like pretty straightforward. You take your like macbook and you find a philz coffee shop with wifi and youre like, basically good to go. But for folks who want to work in hard tech like biotech or chem tech or energy tech, we have a much more difficult path. Hard tech usually comes with a hefty price tag because of all the specialized equipment and facilities that are needed. And my startup, pasture biosciences, is no exception. Thankfully, the pay as you go lab space at nbc has been a game changer for us, allowing us to safely conduct our Research Without the massive cost of setting up and operating our own lab from scratch. Without them, we couldnt do this work, at least in San Francisco, when i first moved to sf many years ago, i actually spent the first eight years commuting down to the peninsula because at the time, thats where biotech jobs were. And so if you want to do science, you had to get on the 101 or ride caltrain hours every day. When i found in my last company in 2019, i actually followed that same path and found a space in the peninsula. But when i started this company, i was committed to trying to find a way to keep it in San Francisco because i love San Francisco. I love walking here. I love taking muni. I love being able to, you know, go out to eat and go to the parks and enjoy this wonderful place. And i wanted my team to have the same opportunity. And so i searched high and low to find a place that could accommodate us. And i found nbc. I was thrilled because it meant that i could actually stay at home and stay in my hometown and still build a company, and im hoping that other folks get to continue to do this. So please support the project and build more lab space. Thank you. Next speaker. Thank you. Thats awesome. Good afternoon, commissioners. President anderson, thank you for your time, my name is andreas jen psaki. I am principal of mba architects. I am the project architect and i thought it might be useful to put a little context of how we design this building. The very first thing we did was to look and form a shadow study, because we thought this would be the most important thing. Rarely, we get the opportunity to design a building right in front of a park. We knew a responsibility, as as the project went on, we realized that we never had a conversation about our maximum height allowed in the project because that was not a concern. Then, as you see the building, its two stories and three stories for a reason. Its not maximizing the site. Rarely in my 40 year career in design many buildings a client doesnt ask me to maximize the height of the building, but this wasnt the case here. We believe it provides a better building, better context. It fits with this environment and the impact is minimal. If all, another thing to consider also is that when i, when i think about this, if this project is not approved, most likely there will be a Housing Project and that project wont come in front of you. And we will have the chance to really have an impact in here. So i think that this project deserves your attention. It deserves your support. And we really are very, very thankful for that. Thank you. Next speaker. Good afternoon. My name is ryan guevara and im one of the founders of mbc biolabs. Our tagline is that we enable awesome, which is which has much more meaning than just those two words. Did you say enable . Awesome. Enable awesome. Okay, got to say that louder. Just last friday, i sat through a presentations by five of our current 130 resident companies, all focused on oncology. I cant possibly convey to you the energy and excitement in a room when you listen to the novel approaches. These companies are taking in our labs to try to cure cancer. Its just awesome. We were founded in San Franciscos dogpatch neighborhood 11 years ago, half a block down from the street. I have. I have had over half of a dozen meetings with the neighbors and dna representatives about this project since 2022. We actually pushed back this hearing by months in order to meet with the entire Neighborhood Development committee. And the project you see before you today includes some of the great suggestions that they made. Since those changes, ive continued to reach out to not only the Dogpatch Neighborhood Association and its representatives, but also to the community at large, and continue to work with them on ways we can be have positive impacts on the local community. We are proud to be founded in San Francisco and to continue to push our Mission Forward of advancing and unlocking amazing scientific discoveries at a fraction of the cost it would otherwise be, without our labs. We truly believe that this will be an asset to the community, and we also truly believe, through all of our outreach, that a majority of the community currently sees it that way. I can answer any questions that you guys have. Thank you so much for your time, i believe we have two hands raised on the webex. So if you could unmute the first speaker. Hello commissioners. Im alison, he chairs the betrayal boosters development committee, and i strongly believe that this is the wrong location for a biotech campus. Its between two residential buildings across from what will soon be a beautiful park. Its zoned for mixed use and would be ideal for Family Friendly housing and active ground floor uses such as retail or a cafe. I also note that there are locations within our neighborhood at the power station pier 70 and a number of nearby pdr locations, so it would be more appropriate because youll be making recommendations to planning about shadowing. I want to speak specifically to both the quantitative and Qualitative Analysis under prop k, with less than two acres of this free park, theres no identified standard for additional shadowing. However, 2. 17 would not be admissible if the park was slightly larger. So i recall the shadowing that Franklin Square was less than 2. With a development that will provide considerable Public Benefit from a qualitative perspective, the shadowing is clearly a problem. The shadows will be large, covering the park in afternoon and early evening hours by as much as 34, and for over two hours at times. In terms of benefits, ill go to future workers in the building who will enjoy proximity to the park while all the impacts will be to park users, the only tangible benefits proposed are some bike parking for the workers and a dog wash station. Then theres a very large contingent of dog people and kids who have gathered in the park late afternoons over the years, who im certain would prefer to have sunlight over a dog wash station as for beam walk and bike friendly, the plans also include 65 parking places for the workers. Next speaker. Good afternoon, commissioners, and thank you for being here, my name is donovan lacey. Im the president of the Dogpatch Neighborhood Association, as well as the president of the dogpatch northwest potrero hill green benefit district. Im here to share a number of the concerns and comments that weve heard from our constituency about the 700 indiana street project, to begin with, theres been insufficient Community Engagement, from sponsor. Honestly, the Dogpatch Neighborhood Association has a policy and procedure to go before our development committee. We made it very clear to the sponsor over a year ago what that looked like. And until very recently, we directed them there. Until very recently, we havent heard a lot about that, and then we have not seen a lot of a lot of, feedback, well, a spring park is our only rec and park. Park in the district, weve been working on it, as you know, for numerous years. And were finally, after two years, getting ready to open it up. And frankly, you know, were already talking about reducing the space and reducing or, sorry, reducing the impact here by adding significant shadowing before we even open the park. As as jim mentioned, the some several projects have been or several Public Benefits have been noted, but frankly, i think about the Franklin Square and the, material yard modernization project. And i think the, the benefits that those that that project has provided by providing Public Benefits like Public Transit system, increased public below market rate, housing, Street Safety improvements, public art, ground floor activation. All of these things benefit the community that that that development is occurring. And here the negative impacts of this proposed project greatly outweigh any, any proposed Public Benefits. Id also just like to add that for those of us who have children or have dogs late in the afternoon. Four 3530 6 00 thats when youre home with your kids. When you can enjoy the park. And thats exactly when this park is now going to be shadowed. And speaker, please. We have one more on the webex i assume association. I as you can tell, were having a little bit of difficulty parsing the actual use of this. Its called a non life science laboratory. But we hear a lot about life science investors, biotech, Clinical Trials, vaccines, oncology, things that sound like life science. Thats a planning issue, but not an issue with you. But thats one of the things thats animating our concern about this project. And when we get to the issue of the public use and we look at or the Public Benefit, and we look at the 1989 memo talking about it being a needed use or building that has an urban form thats conducive to the Public Benefit. Were not seeing those Public Benefits. These are private benefits. Theyre not theyre not even unique to the building. Theyre the sort of things that any building would have to do. The sidewalk design is being mandated by statute. The 19 19ft, any anyone building in there would have very, very similar sidewalks. This this building isnt a mixed use building in a mixed use zoning, and im looking directly at your your staff report. It talks about 7000 or 70,000ft s of Laboratory Space, promoting a vibrant mix of uses. Its not a vibrant mix of uses. Its 70,000ft s of Laboratory Space. Theres no commercial space that the neighbors can use. The parking space is a private amenity for the users of the space. Its a wonderful thing, but but adding to the talking about supporting the network, its, you know, increasing traffic. Certainly its not something that really benefits the public in any sort of way, and, you know, were working on trying to get Public Benefits out of this project. Were working on making the life or the arts plaza to the north, not just an amenity to the building, as the previous designs they put together made it, but something that does benefit the project. And so maybe, what we need here is a continuance so that there can be a Public Benefit, because without that, you know, theres no real Public Benefit thats unique to the site. Its a great business model. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Are you standing to speak . Okay. Please come up. If theres anyone else, please stand up so that i can have a sense of how many more there are. Thank you. Hello. Hello, my name is John Andreini and im a resident of San Francisco. I recall when nbc biolabs first opened a decade ago in the dogpatch. I was actually at the Opening Ceremony where ed lee gave a speech about innovation, its importance of having a home in San Francisco. As we sit here a decade later, supporting this innovation couldnt be more important. Nbc brings not only innovation, but its dramatically reduced barriers to get there. Please join me as a Community Member in San Francisco and support this project. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Good afternoon, my name is kirby derderian. I too am a resident of San Francisco and have been listening to kind of everyone speak here today. I think its pretty simple, breaking it down. On one hand, we have Laboratory Space thats being used for, you know, cures for cancer or alzheimers or, you know, Climate Change and things of this nature that are extremely impactful not only to this community, but potentially reaching far outside of that, while on the other hand, is a project that may create a slight bit more of shade, and it sounds like any other potential use for that space could result in a larger amount of shade, it seems pretty, pretty clear that the, you know, the applications that at this lab could be far reaching beyond, you know, a slight shade, at the park, but i think its pretty clear that this project should be moved forward and not delayed any further. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Seeing no further Public Comment. Public comment is closed. Commissioner alessi, i have a quick question for someone on the team, possibly the architect, or if one of you want to take it just on the structure itself, because of that 1989 memo, the building comes before us, right . Because its greater than 40ft, throwing some shadow on a playground that we control, now, this building is 48ft in my notes. However, it said that there were rooftop structures as well, plural, which added another eight feet to the building. Can you just explain what those rooftop structures are, what they entail . Yes, sure. Theres mechanical equipment that goes on the roof. But so that said structures. So i get that, that that mechanical equipment is what thats referring to. Thats it. Just so theres just one structure on top of the building. There may be multiple mechanical units up there. All right. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions . All right. Can i have a motion and a second on the following . I move to approve the project. Second, okay. Just to be or. Sorry yes. Its just to be clear, thats the reason why i wanted to state it. Because were not here to approve the project. Were here on the following, the Commission Recommends to the Planning Commission, that the net new shadow cast by the proposed 700 Indiana Project will not have a significant adverse impact on the use of esprit park accord pursuant to planning code 295. Can i have that motion . So moved second and a second. Great. All those in favor . Oh, im sorry, did you want to speak, just very quickly. I just saw that. Its okay, i just for members of the public and the commission. Just just a reminder, commissioner anderson. President anderson, you you caught it. But the just for the public, the way the shadow process works here is that this commission is not charged, doesnt have the authority to grant project entitlements, or to deny project entitlements. Youre just a recommendation about shadow, right . Exactly. You just look at the shadow. You look at the analysis, the amount of shadow, and you rule on the shadow. And regardless of how you rule that decision goes on to the Planning Commission that weighs. Yeah thats why i read it out loud. Yeah. I just wanted to make sure that for the public that people understood that the what the shadow process is and isnt. Thank you. Okay. So we have a motion and a second, roll call, please. Okay commissioner halsey, yes, commissioner. Jupiter. Jones. Yes, commissioner. Lewis. Yes, commissioner. Mazzola yes, commissioner. Weintrob. Yes, commissioner. Short and president. Anderson. Yes. Great okay. We are now on item nine. General Public Comment. Is there anyone else who didnt get to comment during item four that would like to comment now . Okay. Seeing no Public Comment, Public Comment is closed. Were now on item ten. Commissioners matters. Commissioners, is anything the matter . Absolutely nothing. Okay good. Nothing and everything. Its mind over matter. Okay. All right. Were now in item 11. New business agenda setting. Do you have any new business commissioners . No okay. Any discussion on the communication means no. Okay. And last but not least, were on item 13 adjournment. And that would be in the memory of little baby boy meyer. Yeah do i have a motion . And a second i move second for motion. Second. All those in favor state i, i any opposition. We are adjourned at 1 18 p. M. Thank you, colleagues, for giving us extra time for these meetings 7 and a half million renovation is part of the clean and safe Neighbors Park Fund which was on the ballot four years ago and look at how that Public Investment has transformed our neighborhood. The playground is unique in that it serves a number of age groups, unlike many of the other properties, it serves small children with the childrens play grounds and clubhouses that has basketball courts, it has an outdoor soccer field and so there were a lot of people that came to the table that had their wish list and we did our best to make sure that we kind of divided up spaces and made sure that we kept the old features of the playground but we were able to enhance all of those features. The playground and the soccer field and the tennis fields and it is such a key part of this neighborhood. We want kids to be here. We want families to be here and we want people to have athletic opportunities. We are given a real responsibility to insure that the publics money is used appropriately and that something really special comes of these projects. We generally have about an opportunity every 50 years to redo these spaces. And it is really, really rewarding to see children and families benefit, you know, from the change of culture, at each one of these properties and as a result of, what you see behind us, more kids are playing on our soccer fields than ever before. We have more girls playing sports than we have ever had before. [ applause ] fp and we are sending a strong message that San Francisco families are welcome and we want you to stay. This park is open