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Scotland use the time is just coming up to 6 minutes past 8 the man who carried out yesterday stabbing at London Bridge was a former prisoner convicted of terrorism offenses in the attack on Friday a man and a woman were killed our reporter Alice Porter is in London has the latest the attack began just before 2 o'clock in the afternoon at fishmongers hall in the east of the city and the attack and then went on to London Bridge and was wearing what was believed to be a hoax explosive device unfortunately we know a man and a woman that was stabbed and Dolly's 3 others were also injured and remain in hospital one is in a critical condition the suspect was eventually shot dead by police and the Met Police Commissioner Cresta day could declare the attack a terrorist incident our counterterrorism detectives will be working around the clock to identify those who have lost their lives to support all the victims and their families we are also working at full tilt to understand exactly what has happened and whether anyone else was involved. And what more do we know about the taco he's been named by police as 28 year old isn't Khan and he was out of prison on license so he was known to the authorities in 2012 he was jailed for his part in an al Qaeda inspired plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange the Times also reporting this morning that has been Khan's release from prison last year came after he agreed to wear an electronic tag and to have his movements monitored and he'd actually been attending a conference on prison a rehabilitation at fishmongers hole when the attack took place offices are currently carrying out searches at an address in Staffordshire where Khan had been living and what's the reaction been well people are being very quick to praise the police because within 5 minutes of being cooled offices confronted and shot as men con There was also extraordinary bravery shown from members of the public I mean pretty dramatic footage quickly image Yes a film from a bus which showed passers by tackling and holding the attacker down while a man in his seat could be seen running having apparently retrieved a large knife now told guide Stevie heard he rushed to help he tried to kick the attacker while others piled on top of him I looked back at my action now and I'm thinking I must be absolutely not so one of all the involved and wanted to try to help the situation there was a fire hydrant that there was a use that from the bar trapper and a very lucky now it was another guy with the like a massive stick of anywhere we got this from but they were just trying to do everything they could they worked everyone just worked together or do you want to try and stop this guy Stevie Hurst that now both the prime minister Boris Johnson and the Labor leader Jimmy Colvin said all members of the public had intervened had shown extreme courage as a reporter Alice pota yesterday's events in London have lent a subdued mood to the election campaign and party leaders have been expressing their shock over the incident and sympathy for the victims let's talk to Westminster correspondent David Broder Good morning David good morning to you obviously all the parties. Leaders have been expressing sympathy for the victims of this awful event yesterday David but there's going to be some From what we know there's going to be some political fallout over this is now yes inevitably there will be it was noticeable yesterday at the debate in Cardiff for very good reasons there was a very subdued tone at the beginning of that because when that debate took place only minutes before we had confirmation that 2 people had been killed in this attack 2 innocent passers by but you're right there is unfortunately past history on this in the 2017 general election campaign in May We had the Manchester Arena bomb attack and then we had another attack at the beginning of June London Bridge as well and obviously I think what will now focus on is was how was it was one car out on license the Home Secretary could you tell in the last few weeks has reduced the terror threat one notch people will be asking questions about that and what people will I think be watching is how the politicians react and how sure footed they are on this this is the 1st time as prime minister that Boris Johnson has had to deal with a terrorist related attack he has brought his officials together for the so-called Cobra meeting at least in London today campaigning will be put on pause but we are in the middle of a general election campaigning will come back again but I think questions will be asked about how this individual had been allowed out on license and what the monitoring situation is at the moment. The debate last night moved on David did we learn anything we didn't know before it I think we learned 1st of all how difficult it is when you get 7 politicians on one stage to get them to behave nicely and play nicely. And move the argument forward quite frankly I don't think we learned an awful lot new last night we didn't have Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn despite what happened earlier they were never going to appear at that so both sent understudies a recent which essentially is the Treasury for the conservatives and Rebecca long baby for labor essentially I think they both thought of without making any gaffes and they will be quite happy but we had representatives from the s.n.p. Nicholas surgeon was there and we had shows Winston for the Liberal Democrats and Prize for Conry richer ties for the breaks party and Caroline Lucas for the Greens and when you realise the length of the list of that if everyone is going to get a say and everyone is going to give their views it means that at times you're not going to get through a huge number of topics I think all of them will be relatively pleased that there were no gaffes but certainly what we did see. Despite the initial subdued tone on because of the attacks Bragg's the economy and climate change all very big subjects not just with the politicians but with the electorate as well now David less than 2 weeks to go. You say Rebecca long believed it didn't make any gaffes but given the state of the polls labor need a bit more than that don't they what are they going to be focusing lived up Army change their campaign what's going on here they are taking a more you're a skeptic stance particularly in these key seats the so-called red wall in the Midlands and the North of England where all the in. Occasions are that Labor could be losing a lot of support these are traditionally leave areas and it appears from the opinion polls that the voters are toying with the idea of going to the conservatives or the brakes party so Labor could stand to lose and lose quite big in the Midlands and the North of England so what we are seeing I think is labor adopting a more your Roeske it towed perhaps putting more prominence in these areas to Labor members who are. Leavers by nature to try and shore up their vote in this one all the indications are at the moment the opinion polls still show a clear lead for the conservatives on average about 1011 percent that could fall in the next fortnight or so and once it starts getting into single figures then the conservatives if that happens will get more nervous because if it gets down to about 6 or 7 percent lead for the conservatives you could be in the possibility of hung parliament. David the Liberal Democrats by the need to break through as well and fight has been suggested that one of the things this wearing the conservatives and the Lib Dems on doing better because they assumed they would then the no worry the they want it into labor votes in quite the way that they thought they might yeah at the start of the campaign I think Labor were overestimating the strength of the Liberal Democrats and perhaps underestimating the strength of the conservatives in the Midlands and the North of England so there is going to be you know having to be a refocusing not just from labor but also from the Liberal Democrats as well probably talking less about shows Winston being the next prime minister and more about that if they have a say in who becomes prime minister and whatever administration there is looking more towards aid. 2nd referendum and saying out right that Article 50 or breaks it would be remote revoked immediately So you're seeing a finessing I think certainly of the Liberal Democrat campaign they know like labor that in the next week or so that they really have to start putting on some points getting their message across and seeing that reflected in the polls. Despite all that for the Tories and for the s.n.p. Up in Scotland they would presumably steady as she goes they just just keep doing what you're doing yeah I think it is basically for both parties a safety 1st campaign don't give any hostages to fortune or anything like that what potentially I think could be quite difficult for Boris Johnson this week is that one Donald Trump will be in Britain for the NATO conference of a concert is I think would like Donald Trump to take a Trappist silence would he do that no I doubt very much and I think what the conservatives will be very nervous on is if Donald Trump is asked anything about the National Health Service and what may happen to that in future trade negotiations between the u.k. And America if breaks it happens they would dearly love the Donald Trump would say absolutely nothing it is the one thing that conservatives cannot. Determine what happens with Donald Trump will say what he wants when he wants we could have a situation just a week before polling day he said something and that takes off not become a major campaign issue for the s.n.p. Just keep doing what they're doing all the opinion polls indicate that yes if they continue with the policy that they do at the moment that they have a substantial lead in Scotland they speak to them publicly and privately they are saying they are taking nothing for granted but again they will want to do nothing which could jeopardize their support in the next week or so David thank you very much indeed for joining us now to discuss the last week and ho the camp some of the campaigns are finessing as David would have it their message are the calmest in the quarter of course columnist for The Herald and The Sunday Herald McColl voice senior editor of The Economist magazine and Paul Hutch and his political editor of The Daily Record Good morning to you all morning and what effect do you think the terror attacks the stabbings will have on voters attitudes at this point and what could be the political ramifications of that. I think the 1st thing that happened given that the debate took place very shortly after it did change the tone and I think securely so if you're looking at the London and things because a more knockabout would certainly have been inappropriate and we saw the debate get pretty heated around the n.h.s. . Boris Johnson and you immediately to. Cover security meeting. Something like this in a sense you know that something of a. You know this little incident but politically it means you were off the hook on other things though did you participate what debates and interviews all you participating in what you know the. This was a tag prisoner out on license Yes indeed and I think therefore if you were the party that wants to run pretty hard or go well to things we want your party in power those things come come come back but I think that's also generally that kind of instant can be very difficult for the Labor Party all parties to get together and say they want to prevent terrorism they would do you know if you do and how people are going to be in prison for a long time they ever allowed out on day release and it was also forget that one of the people who. Went to try to save a life on the bridge that was a convicted murderer so this actually is quite confused situation on that issue I think it will bring short for crime punishment law and order but the parties will then have to scramble to make sense quite confused situation that resulted in the attack yesterday and in terms of the interpretation of all of this in Scotland you know the human tragedy aside the politics of this Nicholas sturgeon in the debate last night seeing she accepted that you couldn't prevent something like this by just the numbers of police you deploy but her point was that the faster the response the sea for the public and you can't you know to maximize that you need to have sufficient numbers of police on the grain in so you know how how do you think this could be interpreted in Scotland Well I don't think that's a particularly strong bearing on events here other than intelligence gathering and you know you release point and intelligence gathering and the e.u. Well yes I mean yeah but. This politicians are very reluctant to draw immediate political inclusions from terrorist acts just doesn't always rebounds of the attempt to if they appear to be playing politics and that's what will happen again this time it obviously is a benefit to the prime minister because you know he's in charge of Cobra only gets to behave prime ministerial in. And for a period people back off attacking him I don't think is going to have any significance impact in the campaign as a whole except for this what happens when you get an event like this and there's not the 1st time it's happened in a sense the campaign gets rebooted again after it number of the issues which have been dominating the campaign so far for example the anti Semitism which I think was a pivotal moment of last week really it was the leaders of all the u.k. Face coming out kucing Jeremy Corbyn passionately of being anti Semitic I think issues like that will not be figuring much in the latter stages of the campaign if I was very significant about that moment which I think was shocking to many people is that it didn't really affect Labor's poll standing very much in fact Labor has continued to just edge slightly up and up it's now over about 30 percent so there's still everything to play for well look let's look at that pull in terms of everything to play for at this stage with the manifesto and all the rest of a day you would have expected given what happened in the last election a kora been buying so is the slight lift in the polls what or or in some of the polls what labor should be hoping for at this stage or should they have hoped for much more through a korban bones do you think I think the latter I think that. If you look at the polls there's definitely been an uptick in support for the Labor Party they've narrowed the gap I think they've had some degree of success in changing the conversation away from Blix and if to on to domestic issues Lake they're free broadband policy also the allegation that the Tories would privatized the chair and you had the was be an instrument as well but I don't think the pools of Nod sufficiently for them to be confident of the result in a couple weeks time I think where we are just no I think there's probably 2 possible outcomes either or toward the majority. Or the Tories just falling short of a majority and again propped up by parties such as the d p I can't see the number shifting in a way that puts Corben in Downing Street I do think that the. The sort of the key takeaway so far is that Labor's message is quite good on domestic policy I think it changes worth a number of voters but the messenger Jeremy Corben is the problem I think that his approval ratings are small it's difficult to see the British public hearing today. If you don't mind on this one we know that Labor No we understand labor of The Tonight is taking a more usual skeptic stance in some seats in the Midlands for example do you think you know changing strategy at this stage in the campaign is a good idea. I think that if you look if you compere are Libras poor eating just near to where they were the 2017 election there's Newdow they have lost votes both to the conservatives that is leave waters into the Liberal Democrats and those remain voters My view is that the Lib Dems are a bigger problem for the or party than the Tories I think that the Dems are pulling about 1415 percent on a good day I think about 5 percent of those could be taken back by the way were party which would have the effect of depriving the Tories of a majority I think that it's their position on mean not being. Enough that's the issue rather than the leadership right in Scotland the Tory vote is holding up better according to the polls the many people predicted and this simple method bricks that done you know the opposition say this is the nonsense you don't get bricks done you know it takes years and years and years you know to negotiate trade deals but what is going on with the Tory message in Scotland well. Campaign in Scotland is significantly different from south of the border principally because Nicolas sturgeon throughout has been declaring that an s.n.p. Victory will be a mandate for independence referendum next year and she's not she's not backed away from that even though it hurts her manifesto a lot and some people are puzzled to see that the backdrop said stop Bracks it which most people associate with the Liberal Democrats but there she's been very clear about this as far as the s.n.p. Are concerned this is really about independence and because the Labor Party's approach to this question are significantly changed over the summer in that they now say they will not stand in the way of another independence referendum or they don't accept Nicolas Sturgeon's timetable the very significantly they are saying they will entertain it in the future that means that a lot of Labor voters are left puzzled about you know if they're unionists who do they who do they vote for and I think this is given heart at least to the Scottish conservatives who of course were absolutely on the floor only a few weeks ago when their leader their very popular leader Ruth Davidson stood down very dramatically to go and spend more time with her family they know at that time people were thinking the Tories would probably be wiped out or reduced to one or 2 seats and now looks as if they may hold on to half of them and that could be very significant because as Paul says it seems very unlikely that Labor is going to win this election but if the s.n.p. Continue coasting to victory as they are at the moment according to the recent polls they are in line to deliver something like the same number of seats they did in the tsunami election of 102015 that's something like 45 to 50 seats that could be absolutely central in deciding who is the government in Westminster because as you know labor and the s.n.p. Are now very much in line and there would be a if not a formal coalition certainly Nicholas Gerges made it absolutely clear she will support labor and she will not do anything to let the Tories into Number 10. And let's look at you know your particular if expertise and the big question the I.F.'s analysis this week the High Priests of finance as we call them in every party wants that approval and labor in the Conservatives essentially told by their face they weren't being honest with the voters about their spending promises and neither party could meet those promises that they'd made do you think this cuts through in any way at all. I think the fact that they are. Not only the I.F.'s is raised about the practicality of spending plans on 2 fronts somewhat along to the usual argument that we tend to have elections about spending commitments that conservatives particularly after. 30 years being much more cautious about what they spend much more on the efficiency or value for money prospectus clearly this is a huge difference in what labor is done it is then what the conservatives are planning to spend so to an extent that argument still pertains but it is a return to the main parties have been told offer there so I think that's going to say one thing yes it's going to cost. Spending plans as acutely I think it's sometimes a good of a mess is that the Lib Dems got away pretty lightly and that's I think the clowns in macroeconomic way certainly we would say do a bit better that you know you still do have commitments there too you know on renewable energy to a very high level of replacement of electricity supply about renewables that you could have doubts about so some of those spending plans but we work if they think they're intended to do it doesn't the fact that it can add up on a table or a chart at this stage is not the whole story and do you think that the I 1st point though that if the Conservative government are in power and go for what is essentially a hard break that their borrowing will have to be even higher than Labor's if they're going to meet their spending commitment do you think that's the kind of detail that voters go or week one second we need to review all of the stuff that they're promising here because trust was a really good shoe in the debate last night and somebody asked can we actually trust you to deliver what you see you will well also remember Boris Johnson says he's naming for these I mean for trade them their heads to get bricks it done slogan hence all the arguments. About it I think that does come down to whether people in the end convinced that Boris Johnson is on the track to delivering something that would look like it. And that he could trade deal on top of the withdrawal deal that he did negotiate when a lot of people said he couldn't with the e.u. So he has a kind of proof of concept here now yes but only if you get it done you know he says get bricks or don't you don't get bricks done by voting for Boris Johnson you get to a situation where you start negotiating trade deals. Well that's true but that I'm afraid is a sort of oppositional point. Is that no of just an evidence at least I don't know if you know the evidence base point you don't start to move towards a trait you laughter withdraw. In this constellation of people you've got running unless you vote for Boris Johnson during that sentence what he says is true what I think is more questionable So it depends if you want to get it done if you don't then of course you make the point that it's not going to it's just going to go on and on and on it will go on and on and on but it depends also on whether you think he has a realistic shot of a trait and remember this is what he's promised and what he has run on so it's true I just mean. If you like if you didn't want it in the 1st place you know you say he's not going to get it done he his view is that he didn't I think the promise of a year is not right where you simply can't do major trade but just access a direction of travel it's different from what the other parties are setting. Labor We can't tell. Oh well let's talk about labor and 1st of all the n.h.s. And also this you know Jeremy Corbyn saying he'll be an honest broker in the BRICs the talks but let's talk about the n.h.s. Most do you think Labor landed anything with their 3 parameters revelations about American farm and all the rest of it and their involvement potentially form new niches do you think we learned today anything with that or do you think the Tories have been able to dispel it with scaremongering responses. I think that. A couple of decent you say cause I'm not sure that it's going to convince anyone in terms of changing votes then it just has always been a strong issue for the Labor Party I'm not sure that wins elections though I think that it please Will to your core support. I just. As I said before I think that we live in such a time where personality unfortunately matters just as much as Paul says and I think that while we got a strong message the messenger is the problem and if he were to turn this into an n.h.s. Election then I think we would have some success by just I'm skeptical that little to do that in terms of the Messenger do you think Jeremy Corbin saying that he's not going to campaign either way on on break that even if you negotiate a labor deal on that you know what effect does that have about what people see him yeah I think that people I speak to in the room inside are not that bothered in the event of a 2nd referendum bricks Jeremy Corbyn would stay out of it I do think we see him as an be more of a problem. Than a strength I do think through the problem with his position is that it does. This idea that Labor are soft or somehow equivocating on the mean issue of the day that they don't have a clear position that can be explained to the electorate and I think the scene in this polo over 18 months or so and this is just the latest incarnation of a confused model policy and you know when Labor at this stage think they will step up and in the shadow cabinet thing they'll step up and champion this deal if labor and they do negotiate a deal but you know what are the prospects for Labor in Scotland what does Labor in Scotland look like to you at the moment from the polls and what Labor's in very serious trouble north the border it's sinking very rapidly in the polls even as the conservatives are ticking up it's going the opposite direction to south of the border for labor you know the poor analysis indicate where they could lose nearly all of the seats they won back in 2017 so things are very bad here German court is actually more unpopular in Scotland than Boris Johnson which is quite an achievement when you think about it because. I mean from the left of the party and he's promoting policies many of which have already been introduced by the Scottish National Party like free personal care intrusion fees and what have you 5 years ago we would have said oh yeah Jeremy Corbyn he'd be very much in June was sort of left wing Scotland as it used to be described but as Paul says it just shows the extent to which personality is a tremendously important factor in politics and I think is equivocation on. On Bret's it is is going to haunt him right until the very eve of this election you know as Boris Johnson was saying you know he's used to being decisive now he's not so sure I mean he's never you know he this is a man who has never sat on the fence on any issue in the past now and the greatest most important issue facing the country he is trying to say he's trying to indicate that he doesn't actually have a point of view on it and nobody believes it so everyone will project their own suspicions onto Jeremy Corbyn as the final days take away and I think this really will be a decisive factor in the later stages of the election Ok thank you very much indeed for that with an Mackell void in the quarter you just heard there and Paul Hutcheon Well it's just coming up to 25 to 9 this is good morning so often with Isabel Fraser and Gordon Brown the headline so far this morning it's American attackers stabbed 2 people to death on London Bridge yesterday was a convicted terrorist who was freed on license last year families of the 2 police officers killed in the kloof their helicopter crash have released a statement in support of the aircraft's pilot and regulated real fears across the u.k. Are set to rise by 2.7 percent in January Well let's get some more sport with Amy thank you very much heart center manager Arthur McPhee faith and budgets focusing on the long term structure of the club as he looks to hire a new manager and director of football Rick Levine pharmacists face he'll certainly be in charge of the state's trip to Iraq tomorrow but wouldn't speculate how much longer. He would remain in the dog ate the main thing is everybody. To reach a decision he believes is the correct one for that for the next stage of the club 5 years coming from administration but then I think it will be applauded for the for the next 5 years we have against the rules that are. Available well will be tasked with taking it forward and not former Rangers defender money stroll says although Celtic and Rangers successes in the Europa League are a step in the right direction Scottish football should maintain a grip on reality Celtic are through to the last 32 of the competition of all Rangers need a point from their final game to join them in the draw but the defender who played for the I broke sight 70 times questioned the standard of teams faced by the glass clubs is a. Level of realism still he will point you stop when ran his 11th and an average French leak so there needs to be a sense a real reason it is not quite Champion's League level you're going in taken on. The top teams by minutes or so but a semi step in the right direction but Tommy believes the Premiership stating a stronger and stronger You don't hear the president currently set both some of the early Northern Irishman says much of us to do with the strength of the teams around them I think the league has improved our say that every season if you look at the spare them part of solving Rangers and the quality they have to go you know Rangers or Celtic have turned over teams or selves you know. Who are high number of goals. More than what's happened the previous seasons there's always one thing that. You know surprise and. Bottom section do well and that's Motherwell at the Mother who are flying their 4 games in the Premiership today fireplace it cut the gap to the top 2 of Celtic and Rangers to 6 points if they could be met and and the rugby head coach Richard cultural has hailed his side so we went against Munster last night because. 1816 win against conference b. Leaders who had only lost one game prior to last night really can win in the road because people come to Munster more than anything else I know the circumstances fall away and you know we need to recognize that but also what it's about mostly we did some good things and I don't lose very often here I'm We were just going to build on this but yeah boss We're going to disclose very disappointed waters faced Lang's there today with lot John agree making his 1st appearance of the campaign Adam Hastings George Allen and Fraser by an all rested well they had a shade have changed the entire 15 which basically on and the European Championship last weekend and 4 Scots in 2nd round action snifters u.k. Championship today defending champion Ronnie O'Sullivan gets things under way against jumping fee of China at lunch at your sport. 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View Scotland No the election campaign has brought back a big debate about the reach of the state into the economy and ownership of companies Labor wants to nationalize real mail energy supply English water companies and broadband it wants to become a manufacturer of medicines rival see this as a retro reach into the seventy's when public ownership got a bad name but there's another side to this debate raised in the past week the future of the private sector and whether the great British companies fit for purpose one of Britain's leading business think it says we have a particularly toxic form of capitalism in the u.k. And it needs radical change business and economy editor Douglas Fraser joins me good morning Douglas Good morning to you so should public ownership have the bad name it certainly got in the seventy's and eighty's. You know the 170 s. Did a lot of damage to the image of public ownership of companies in Britain dreadful industrial relations big losses huge subsidies require very poor quality products in many cases you've got steel coal mining shipbuilding they were all in decline or facing efficient foreign competitors at that time Margaret Thatcher's administration of the 1980 s. Sold off those are states or close them down believing that the market could raise capital and allocate it more efficiently and that they were arguing that the state was a burden on enterprise but in other parts of Europe public ownership at least in some ways it's something the I.F.'s actually pointed out this week is remain the norm and it yes I mean public ownership particularly of utilities transport is quite commonplace on the continent and also big stakes in manufacturing in France for instance and transport you've got cars airlines railways there's energy supply if you take e.t.f. 84 percent owned by the French government that's the company that runs Britain's nuclear power station supplied energy it's building a wind farm off the face Coast French and Norwegian state backed companies operate oil and gas fields in u.k. Waters where I was that the British government sold its ownership stakes in the eighty's and b.p. And others and lost the opportunity to get profits from North Sea oil which would help the Norwegian state to a trillion dollar pension fund and the rail industry here is operated by to some extent by government owned companies just not the British government precisely I mean British Rail was was a nationalized company it was then privatized more than 25 years ago but no we've got Scot Rail it's run by a Dutch state owned rail operator and other British franchises are run by government owned real firms from Germany France Belgium Italy Hong Kong and clearly they can compete not only with the domestic protection they have in their home countries but what's to them are foreign markets and because of private sector feelings indeed the East Coast Main Line is yet again British government run and in Scotland there's a slightly different story. Yes well one bit of all of this that survived privatization was Scottish Water because of a public revolt against that and it compares favorably no with English private suppliers it competes in England for business custom you get comics ferries are owned by the Scottish Government and subsidised of course likewise Highlands and Islands airports and they clustered wanted to set up an energy supply from to compete with the big 6 but 20 such suppliers folded this year so that's off her wish list it seems and there are governments now looking at the possibility of setting up a national infrastructure come company it seems to be the idea is to take the profit motive out of constructing public buildings a project that looks pretty risky it would require a lot of capital it seems to be making slow progress just now but what is perhaps slightly more reminiscent of the seventy's the Scottish government backing some companies that would otherwise fail Yes well there's risk in that and there's a cost for them as well I mean it took on press week airport to avoid closure and big subsidies going into that the attempt to sell it is a here proving very hard to get airborne there's a a minority stake in by fabrication yards mothballed in the hope of contracts for offshore wind one of those came along in Fife just this week and there's a very slow road to takeover of Ferguson Marine shipyard in clade twice placed in the administration this decade and there's risk in doing this financially and politically if public ownership comes to be seen as it was in the seventy's is the answer to private sector failure Now the other say that's done this isn't it is a debate growing debate I think it is a growing debate over about the nature of private firms even amongst people who are very pro capitalism there's an argument that certain manifestations of feeling what's going on. Well indeed given trust in business has been in pretty short supply recently and particularly since the financial crash it's recovered a bit since then if you look at the Edelman trust index it's no stronger than trust in government and yes the media but there's pressure over pay inequality the issue of climate change and the private sector's responsibility for that the protests around that in summer we got a round table of the top $100.00 American chief executives signed a letter saying that the business model for the firm needs to change to remove the primacy of shareholder interest to align the firm also with the interests of customers and workers interests of society more widely and the environment and one of those who signed the letter was a skull to Kevin Snead or the most senior partner for McKinsey management consultancy I interviewed him soon after that letter was published I remember the days when there was a very strong belief that the business of business is business I don't believe that anymore and I think the Business Roundtable statement of purpose recognizes that it's impossible to lead any business with be part of any business and not look at the social consequences that are around you I knew and have seen the cynicism with which people have responded to that statement and I think that's a shame because deep down I absolutely believe business is a force for good I believe business creates jobs and jobs create dignity and opportunity an opportunity is what feeds people but at the same time I also recognize every time business steps over on line it undermines confidence in the community it undermines trust and businesses cannot be successful if they're not trusted by the communities in which they operate. Now there is one other interesting pressure for change it's recruitment from a younger generation with it seems different values people who want to work for companies with values the can support and identify with not just to make money now we were told this week Douglas that British the British business world is even more ruthless than the American one and more in need of reform what's going on. Yeah well this was this came from Professor Colin Mayer he's at Oxford business school levy the British economy project on the future of the firm and wants to make it the norm rather than the exception for a firm to have a purpose other than maximizing shareholder return the firms can vary their purpose under the Companies Act social enterprises have been growing in number but mainstream firms stick to their 1st duty to shareholders internally shareholders tend not to see responsibility or obligation to a firm in the long term or indeed to society and Professor Mayer pointed out that British law is more relaxed than even American laws in allowing investors to pressurize firms into short term gains long term costs and the costs are to workers to customers to the environment and so on and he spoke on b.b.c. Radio 4 earlier this week we've got a more dispersed form of ownership that's to say we have fewer anchor shareholders who have a significant bloc of shares in companies that can take a longer term perspective on them we've done a great deal to increase prosperity and growth around the world but we need to have company purposes that go beyond just shareholder returns we need to have purposes that are there to solve the problems of our societies and planet Ok Douglas Well if we could what we've been talking about together the issue of more public ownership and companies becoming more aligned with the public interest how could that change the economy. Well this could become really quite dynamic perhaps because conventional growth is so sluggish government borrowing is so cheap politics is very volatile and uncertain at the moment where government meets the private sector instead of softening the ages to protect consumers policing top a tax on profits there's a possibility of achieving something different at the high priestess of this in British economics is money animates a catto him I interviewed some months ago she's an economic advisor to among many others the Scottish government the question should not be state down to or privately owned or nationalizing or privatizing it should be what are the conditions attached for example when you sell off your transport system the fact that there is lots of sell offs without any conditions attached to the amount of investment that we require from the private sector but also the quality of that investment that's where things go wrong you know we don't have to go back to the old discussion we can actually actively co-creating Co shape markets whether they be around health and argy or the future of you know our self driving cars we need an equal level of ambition in the public and private sectors they need to be seen as co-creators of value and if there are contracts in place which of course there are with all these partnerships they need to really be taking into account what that public contribution is the key to her way of thinking is that governments can sit great national missions like the American moonshot in the 1960 s. And use their big spending on research and for a cure meant to draw together public and private to achieve these big targets and goals most likely starting with answers to climate change. Douglas thanks for that our business and economy of the goods Fraser and if indeed you've been listening to the program since 8 and you're shouting at the radio which planet are you people on we are talking about climate change after 9 o'clock 10 o'clock Shereen this here I know there are some for oh thank you it worked it's called the it is definitely a different person and we're going to be talking about the new documentary that came out yesterday resurfacing a very good title because it's about him fighting back to fitness but also that was the nature of the hip operation that he had a very moving stuff and also will be reflecting on the lives and careers of 2 Glee polymaths. Death threat once this week in the same day Clive James and Jonathan Miller both had incredible careers I'm joined us by their money MacDonald mantilla and Martin Raymond will also be discussing the new program biologist was born and which gives us some home truths about what the meat industry is doing to the planet was View cinemas rate to withdraw the film Blue story after fighting broke out at some cinemas and an interesting look at Scottish muscularity on the b.b.c. Scotland channel what's more besides Yes Gordon and I discuss that regularly but I will tune in for in the state information is saying nothing why easily He's very gentle and very quiet no though also very gentle very quiet the Saturday papers with Dr Ayman O'Neill who's with us obviously every week associate professor of journalism at Edinburgh Napier University I think you are a gentleman you're not necessarily quiet all the time but I think you are gentle I think that's a nice combination Exactly that's a compliment you very much what if you've got all titles will have the London Bridge attack presumably Yes you often see that you know the stories are subtle they can be a bit of a picnic something for everyone but the Smalling clearly the editors in the last. 12 hours of the day and the sated to a story to dominate all the all the front pages. To think as any of them have decided not to go with it and part of the reason for I think is because of the visuals. It's one of the realities of being a journalist in the United that the good thing when a you straight a story and there's absolutely no shortage of both stills from for teach that was taken from various means and also actual photographs candids of you late that were taken on the scene because of course everyone carries cell phones with them they really can actually take they can take the images for example the front page of The Daily Record the Daily Telegraph has a photograph of that gentleman who disarmed the attacker was part of the gang that the sound him and he's holding a huge and they feel a Calvin naif in his hand in the close up of them there as he's trying to keep the photographer and in the background over his shoulder and then this is often difficult to redo but just over the shoulder we'll just describe it as you can see the assailant lying dead on the but I do you say often you can see the police running in all directions is a really believe it and it's one of those ones that you know will get there in the on the walls both just you know of the events that happened this year and also in the history of London in times to come often one of the themes that seems to have a male judged on the back of this kind of image has been the notion some things this place can be too unwashed enemies that keep Weekly she's and troops and so on in the media today have definitely going with the theme of the Harvard hero was who jumped on top of them knew something was a c. I would be the 1st to criticize us about Lizzie journalism in the Open to say Snowden you instead of but and this case it seems to be almost just a fight because certainly. When you appeal 1st of all it was was actually attacking people me gently on the scene members of the public that is and they attacked it was great astonishing and one of them somebody used actually an awful Tosk to attack him which looked like a big. Well look the big stick you had but it was actually an old lunch to get from somewhere and Iran and something that I think it was hanging on the wall wasn't in sight fishmonger that was that's what was your record fishmongers hole and the They've got fantastic but it during all 'd of all the images of what happened and you can see who was actually the front line a few late Well definitely members of the public and on the. Seas last night of course the reporting the borders joints and Dave p. Tribute to the extraordinary bravery of members of the public. Services who helped tackle the knife wielding terrorist or in London but I just describing them as the very best of the country and this is this is from The Telegraph at least 2 people were killed and saved several more seriously injured 3 promoter taken to hospital when the tables beating a fake suicide vest went to another m.p.g. Yards from the scene of the 2017 London Bridge attacks but the suspected you had just was wrestled to the ground and disarmed by her we can defy jewels including the mind need to the point they say the man with the knife you know before being short dead by specialist officers it was extraordinary but of course it was the fact that the members of the public actually witnessed him being killed they saw it because it was one of the terrorist officers from the specialist unit s. Who in 1000 where were they are on the scene and they very quickly and they were the ones that actually they had to pull member of the public off off him when he was trying to subdue him and he actually did one of the one of the 1st things he was able to do then was immediately once the scene was clear he was immediately able to shoot them and those are really interesting piece in The Deal Express by the x. S.E.'s mine Tom Best selling author crush Ryan but he explains and it's unfairly super language it's not working a boy's wouldn't you know militaristic enough sort of sort of thing here for you who we all know anything he says in fairly simple language that look there's only going to be one who come here and it doesn't matter who you are. He said of the I'd been a real suicide vest and going off the casualties would have been far higher there's no softly softly approach here with a truncheon or a teaser officers are trained in some cases alongside special forces to act quickly and neutralize the target these tactics known as Operation Cratylus were developed by the Metropolitan Police for dealing with suspected suicide bombers in the week of September 11th attacks and America and there's good reason for it he said when she'd been shot in the head save us the Spain meaning a suspect is and keep a pool of operating any sort of button or trick of the face that make detonate an explosion people may think that distastefully sees but that's the only thing you can guarantee to stop a detonation and this case there were people watching from buses and offices in close proximity to the attack and the potential blast radius plus the police on the growing them passes by were clearly in harm's way in the event of an explosion I think we have been looking at $20.00 to $30.00 people horrifically and just if not killed it right and he goes on to just explain that we the trained they will not hesitate and they will take that decision alone then and then they have got the right the legal right to do so and if the go back to the images the images the of the shoe the sheer panic which underlings who extraordinary it was that this group of individuals actually run then to try and do something about it in the Daily Mail often in these cases as the tabloids are very good at reporting this kinda stuff the deal e-mail with your front page bravery on the bridge also have a really good reputation say to explaining exactly the crew the choreography of this the exactly what happened and also and say they have an extraordinary picture of the meeting that you were failing to go to complete and fishmongers hall which was the sort of Union of prisoners who had to been on license and so on because the suspect the you know the sealant you rather he was a torn license he was something he'd already had to was convictions and he was actually attending this gathering of express those who are licensed to sort of some sort of rehabilitation to. And the terms are then actual fact Kimi actually threaten them when he was in the hole at one point it was going to blow up then even sate with the feet based on the stuff that these dreadful attacks which left 2 people dead and then another twist of feet there's enough to call in here saying that one of the models he was actually a dealer lease actually try to save a woman victim so it's all up it's all about talk of them but they haven't and that's interesting if it is a political debate about licensing and all the rest of it McEvers making that point early in the program this is it's a complicated picture licensing because you see this this man had served time for murder he had Chile risked his own life to you know protect another woman while is this you know the 26 year old license and tries to kill everyone because it's very it's not a black and white picture yet and it implicates quickly opinions also interest the delimiter inevitably talking about whether or not the questions to be asked about this months sort of profile why it didn't appear on b m the readout of m I 5 alien so and whether this could been prevented that that's very very good this will also draw listeners attention to a comment piece by Richard Walton senior fellow at the post exchange and former head of the mit police current of terrorism commander so 15 of a very very good article on the same theme could have all been prevented on the front page of The Telegraph the some very good water or the small and the what fast what part if used Take your time this morning and readership understand her complex and sudden this all was and the response of the people to think that the reporter comment pieces and get me expelled analysis has been very very good as it and even this is a complete gear change and we're literally almost out of time which may be just as well because it turns out the crank you have been revealing all trying to leave a pillar of the lawn could remember the watershed Damon lets you show the crying over the very colorful life with ups and goings and swings in rowing the boat show we see but nothing but they give a lovely interview this morning to Rachel Bletchley in the director of my favorite And as for. Me Crying kitchen it tough explains our favorite a must when she used to dress as a warm bull too she said it scared the hell out of a drunk by the stage door in particular thought he'd seen an enormous walking route . Even thank you so much for that I'll leave the leopard's I did this. On digital radio f.m. Medium wave b.b.c. Sounds b.b.c. Radio start. Time 9 o'clock and you're listening to the weekend edition of Good Morning Scotland with Gordon Brewer and Isabel Fraser coming up before 10 o'clock as the Midlands becomes key to this election battle what is the thinking locally splashing the cash can we buy our way out of economic troubles and the tipping point theory on climate change new analysis suggests we may already have created a chain reaction we cannot know reverse the 1st the b.b.c. News police have identified the man who stabbed 2 people to death at London Bridge yesterday as a convicted terrorist who was freed on license last year those men can was shot dead by armed officers after he was tackled to the grown by members of the public the 28 year old was jailed in 2012 for an al Qaeda inspired plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange the mayor of London City can says the security services believe he was acting alone but policing patrols will be stepped up in the coming days what the Met Police Service what the see even the police service and what the British national police will be doing have more high visibility police officers present in London and that includes armed officers as well and the key thing is not for the public to be alarmed by the fact that there are more armed officers uniformed officers present there also be plainclothes officers present but to reassure the London rows and visitors that were safe as we can be. The b.b.c. Security correspondent Gordon Corera says this man can had apparently shown no sign that he was planning the attack he was we understand tagged and subject to certain restrictions now sources I've spoken to say he complied with those restrictions it also seems he may well have informed the authorities that is he was attending this particular seminar which was a fishmonger's hall which related to former offenders and those working with them so no sign of advance warning or intelligence about what he was going to do it appears last night's b.b.c. Election debate in Cardiff was overshadowed by the attack in London but there were heated exchanges between politicians in the 1st 7 way debate of the campaign up political correspondent at Westminster is David Porter all of them will be relatively pleased that there were no gaffes but certainly what we did see despite the initial subdued tone because of the attacks dregs the economy and climate change all very big subjects not just with the politicians but with the electorate as well. The families of 2 police officers killed in the cloth a helicopter crash in Glasgow have expressed their support for the pilot a fatal accident inquiry last month determined the crash happened because David Captain David trail ignored low fuel warnings constables Tony Collins and Kirsty Nellis were among 10 people killed 6 years ago Alan Cross and is the clue the bar owner I think everything at the same is true you know it seems reflected to most of us I speak to all the families I speak to says feel that the pilot's been unfairly criticized but I see you getting the blame when it's obvious a lot of issues involved with a helicopter. Regulated real fears across the u.k. Including season tickets are set to go up by 2.7 percent in January the retail delivery group says the majority of the money raised will be put back into the railway but passenger groups claim many don't feel they get good value. Health officials in California have close 60 miles of beaches along the coast of Orange County because raw sewage has leaked into the sea the spell of nearly 15000000 liters was caused by a broken water pipeline at Laguna Beach right let's get some more sport here's a bank in edge of hearts manage Austin McPhee says he'll definitely remain in charge for Sunday's trip to Iraq he's led the team since the dismissal of Craig Levine in October Hart's aunt and Budge into point both a new head coach and an excuse me a new sporting director there's 4 games in the Premiership today fair place Aberdeen could cut the cap to top 2 Celtic and Rangers to 6 points if they can beat St Mirren and remove within 2 points of pool 14 Conference be leaders month there with their 1st away win over the fade in 5 years they came back from behind to secure an 1816 victory Glasgow Warriors locked on a date will make his 1st appearance of the campaign today is the feast conference leaders Leinster later that are Sayed have changed the entire 15 which face the Early on in Europe last weekend and defending champion Ronnie O'Sullivan get feck and a snickers u.k. Championship underway in York against young pin fee of China and the 4 Scots an action today to let your sport. Is here with your travel Thanks Amy and I guess that a 9 to see could put on destroyed it Parkhill has tempted a light to tell it tricity works out on Bluefield road Edinburgh is a 71 it rather has a hold up for a water main works near to Addison farm road Glasgow's Albert drive in Polk shield a shot to traffic there's an unsafe building from Darnley street to shield road and he steer sure that a 70 Main Street a awful tree has works waterworks The are not doing that would at Mill Street and Scott trail see there's still major disruption in North Lanarkshire a broken down train between Bellshill and Motherwell means cancellations between Glasgow and Edinburgh and on the Lanark line b.b.c. Radio Scotland travel Thanks Susan on the weather largely dry and sunny but with a few shows for the Northern Isles as well as the far north and far east of the main.