Nicolas Maduro dozens of arrests were made across Venezuela and the opposition have been protesting almost daily for 7 weeks to demand earlier elections and an end to the country's deep economic crisis Vanessa Bush who turned his in Caracas so she's seen other examples of how the crisis is affecting people the manager of the hotel I was staying in said You know what was for me the biggest sign that people aren't eating is that we provide uniforms for our staff they all wear the hotel uniform and in the last 6 months I've had to replace so many uniforms because people have gone down to sizes they just can't feed themselves and she's also told me that a couple of cattle she was bored because of a cup of tea and fell asleep sitting on the couch so crabs are quietly the watery boiled out of the cattle melting the plastic trap of the cattle. And the she was so frightened so upset that she went knocking on my daughter's door you know who lives down in the basement apartment and I asked her if I was going to beat her when I came home because of the teakettle and that hit me like a 2 by 4 across the throat from what does it mean to you to meet a man who wasn't going to hate you for that kind of thing very happy though all men were like dogs and they were you know be a woman and he's different Did you see him as a friend did you want him to be more than a friend how did you see him after you know our friend and I Why had to be more than a friend you were best in love with him then you think yes I had attracted towards her but he had an hour because there was nobody. So I love are told by my math the fellas. I was nervous and shy because no one else was my acts I level went out and never spoke to people really are. And never have friends. Do you did you suspect that Catherine was attracted to you I thought a very strong sense of our friendship towards her and of the men I also found her to be very appealing but still in all I had to know what my proper position was and I just kept everything professional and then this that came this period Katharine When understand that some Skinheads were giving you trouble what was the situation there yeah I was on a bus and they were harassing me column Elaine think about neighborhood she suddenly just comes through the front door didn't take off or went to code didn't say hello all just ran right across into the kitchen very to face her hands and started crying I ran in there afterwards what the problem what happened and she explained to me of why just that taken place aboard a city bus so I'm saying to myself well I'm going to find out more. About whatever going on over here in New York with skinhead activity and I'm going to find out at any cost and I figure there's only $1.00 way to do it get involved in some kind of a neo Nazi organization and see exactly what it is that I can find out so you decided to infiltrate and they are not secret Yes I did have you ever given any thought to you to the new Nazi movement well more than just thought I had been studying Naziism Hitler the 3rd Reich and the history of the 2nd world war ever since I was a youngster and the concept of Naziism in general always held a type of curiosity and a fascination for me so this this curiosity and fascination that you say it had for the Nazis for a long time it was it wasn't admiration. And a great sense it actually was reason being was based on the simple fact that in 1933 January. A virtually an educated wounded soldier and misfit of society managed to become chancellor of Germany and within a 4 year period brought a broken why Maher Republic to the pointed to the status in the world where it actually shook world peace you're talking about adults hell of a man he was responsible for killing millions of people 6000000 Jews and a number of other innocent victims who were systematically murdered in a terrible fashion and concentration camps knowing that how could you have any admiration for the movement to heal that it's easy to see no one my own background as a child as a beaten frightened child who was perpetually told by his own mother that he was unwanted He's despised because he's a burden things of that nature a person of low self esteem as as I truly was I was saying to myself where one man went another could very easily go do you joined the National Socialist Movement and was given the position of stormtrooper part of a uniformed security group instead of investigating the movement as he said he'd intended to do Dick began to get more must in the Nazi scene and rose up the ranks to the s.s. Division a military organization which provided bodyguards for the top officials I became immediate bodyguard to the commander I was his immediate and only protection right there the original s.s. Was one of the most. Feared and hated groups of people after behaving. It was our best if you that wondered if you wanted to be part of a movement that on it that it wasn't so much the type of fear that was inspired as it was the type of respect that was gained by all others involved it got respect Yes Very much so when he went home I don't know if he was still wearing your uniform or not but would you talk to Catherine about about your involvement with the National Socialist Movement Yes we spoke about it she was a very good companion I busted out laughing one day when she walked into the living room and as always I'm sitting in front of the t.v. And I'm watching a documentary on the 3rd Reich as soft spoken English gentle as she is she looks she says well you really are Nazi aren't you did you laugh about that Catherine yes why those kind of funny it at the time the way he was dressed you know what I'll be have to look for he was watching the documentary nothing yeah yeah lots of well you know can sense the I was a little concerned I mean did you raise with him the issue that this was a group which was. The tourist for its races and our Thelma Allen like it one bit an hour was praying that he would get out of the movement before it gets worse when Castro said that he when she expressed her concerns did and what did you think twice actually I didn't have many things that I witnessed and many things I was told only seem to harden my resolve even more I originally got involved with them to learn about antisocial me on how to groups in New York from nothing and that would have been my cue to leave but I suddenly became more and more curious and the respect that we. Getting from the rank and file only seemed to draw me closer and closer to the inner circle and in a very short period of time I found that I actually became a part of the machinery and then I became a major part of the machinery when I was motor to the officers corps and I was put in charge of the entire s. S. Division every everywhere imaginable and what was that involve your doing what I was soprano to Lieutenant I was soon put in charge of the fold of vision and we had members everywhere you can imagine you know all of a sudden I find myself to be a leader of men suddenly. Leading a virtual army you some proud did you do anything well you're a member of that group of which are ashamed. Looking back in retrospect collectively I have to confess that now that I see things through different eyes I would say that even being involved in the uniformed ranks is something today that gives me shame. I must I must confess did you all fellow members know. That you are sharing your home with an African-American woman the only one who was aware of that was the commander back then and I also gave him my reasons as I told them I said this of this woman was my charge I was her personal protection and her bodyguard and she wound up virtually homeless and I had not taken her in. She would have been homeless why should it require explanation a tool well people automatically especially never minded people automatically suspect that simply because a man and a woman are living together in the same house that there is some form of intimacy involved but why would that be a problem they would consider intimacy between me and a woman other than an area and woman would be some form of race mixing which of course would be leading me to the accusation of being a waste traitor simply goes against their code. Do you stayed in the national socialist movement until 2012 when he was diagnosed with throat and thyroid cancer when they said cancer I found out I was nothing but a big muscle bound coward after all the surgeon had told me that we don't know how long you've had this thing this tumor is 8 centimeters in size and all we can tell you is that you have to undergo immediate surgery because we don't know what else this is going to win trail and Catherine was with me at the time and when we went downstairs and got to the car even before I turned on the ignition the 1st you know sort of was I'm going to die Catherine he went to my church and he talked my pastor and he got it from the congregation a total exactly what he and he read now it's them they put hands on prayer on have told straight this toma. Make it disappear. So the path that drove him to the hospital went to the hospital with us the recovery would do. A bit he steps in the bill cheer she told me right then and there she'd been in love with me all this time but she couldn't say a word because of my status and everything do you separate revealed the team I was benign but his time in hospital had given him time to think about his life and how much Katherine really meant to him I said well forget about that status as soon as I'm home I'm putting in a phone call I'm resigning my commission turning my back on that I proposed to her even before I got out of the hospital bed she accepted she'd been in love with me all this time very deeply in love with me and never said a word about it her heart was breaking over everything and there I was she was there I was there but we couldn't touch each other because of what I was involved in and as far as that was concerned I only knew one thing all of devotional love or care for me there was only one way I can pay it back and that was suspended rest of my life with her and if I was going to spend the rest of my life with her I had to marry her and if I had to marry her then that meant I had a remounts Naziism and everything else and that was not a hard decision for me to make not a hard decision but what kind of reaction did you get from other members denial for one thing a lot of other people you know they believe oh he'll be back you'll be back the only one who took me serious was the commander when I notified him and I told him point blank straight out I said listen I'm leaving because I'm marrying this woman and this woman is most certainly not an area and she's an Afro-American woman who's loved me for years and years and now I'm going to return that love Ok after how long have you been married now. So I still thought of the 12th 2012 and and how how how isn't hard life great we don't haave about not one thing one thing you know you have to talk about the old days the period when when Dick was involved with the new Nazis No not really. Well even a documentary where you start watching the documentary all along a long time ago many books and the books that I've had I've read the sold given away I will not watch a movie or a documentary that has anything to do with Hitler or Naziism or anything of that nature that's the kind of a thing that's bought my interest in the 1st place and I don't have to look at it anymore I'm fascinated by the g.o.p. To now tell us about it I found out that the job that I've been working at as a bank guard was closing down and so I went and I applied with another company not very far from where I live and I was also shocked not only to find myself working the minute I completed my application but the job entails the protection of schools you know you Shiva schools and synagogues in the Jewish community in Brooklyn and I've come to know these people very it's a bit late I come to respect and love these people very very much so and working with them is not even like a job because they treat me like I'm part of a family and for the 1st time in all my years I actually enjoy going to work today not about you know past quite a few of them have read my story I never discussed anything like this with them or anyone else for that matter but the ones who read about it were very happy to see that I made a very positive transition and took a better read direction wife there's so much happening right now in the United States there are so many threats against the Jewish community and I'll protect these people with my very life. And Catherine Schneider you're listening to outlook on the b.b.c. World Service. Now to Iraq to meet Marina Jaba who cuts question on usual figure in the capital Baghdad she's been cycling all around the city it's not common to see female cyclists and not everyone approves but that wasn't going to stop. I was 8 when I 1st heard of white and I start writing my cousin's wife and I had to read 5 that I laughed so much. When I want to remember my childhood there read my cross my mind so it's just as fake come out of my memory. We were very close to me and my 3 sisters were very close to him and when he left he gave us all the things he has his pencils and the small things and one of it is his bike so should be mine but I had my grandfather he thought it's because I'm a girl I shouldn't write the bike all I wanted is a bike for myself and when he gave me his bike I felt so happy but then I didn't get it so just still hurt still now. What made me start again there is 1st time travelling outside Iraq I came to New gate to visit my sister and I came with my view on say I saw the bikes and I he said I'll come let's ride bikes I told him I feel God's house too and then he said you know you never forget these things thank you the way I felt while riding the privately just I feel so proud of myself and then I start to go. Stringing myself why I can ride a bike in my country why the society doesn't accept it before I came to you k. And before I did my journey with the bike I used to blame society for a lot of things I couldn't do so I was one of the Women's that just sits in and Obey thank you thank you thank my fiance he got me a white red bike and I went to ride it in different places in the hope that it was a part of art project I did in Baghdad in the exhibition there are 20 artists it's all about the society and how to change society the theme was photos of me writing the like and how people reacted and how people in time they got used to it's and they stopped staring at me and there was a video too in the exhibition thank you so I used to keep the bike with my friend who was the photographer because I didn't want my family to know about it and then you bring it to me in some certain place and I go writing the 1st place I rode the bike was up on us in Baghdad it's next to the river it's very nice place I chose it because I just want to started easy so the 1st time I got on the bike I could hear my heart beating I was so scared people were looking at me and it was very strange experience for me I thought I'm doing something wrong and I start questioning myself what I'm doing and I couldn't do that and I really wanted to stop until I went across a soldier he was standing closing the road by the wires and he got up and he opened the road for me to go by and I thought yeah that's it it's actually force myself. People they were looking at me weirdly because it's uncommon but most of the people the next Mai-Ling at me telling me that this is the dad that we know. Oh how beautiful it is and the people in the real world and the Iraqi street they were fine with it they loved it. Wasn't it. There's one guy I was riding the bike in a very busy area and he tried to pull the bike and it's made me feel industry Ok I was expecting that or being in this area so just one person and all Iraqis who try to do things like the could. I chose the bike because it's one of the activities that women's they stop doing it and Middle East or in Iraq we think that the society doesn't accept it so I chose it to prove to women that the society are fine with it and I'm living proof so it's a message were meant to do what they want to do they're not timing anyone lots of people say we have to focus on the big things like fighting ISIS and what you're doing is silly and it's not the right timing but I believe that maybe it's silly maybe it's not important but this is what I want. So when I when I feel like upset or just feel down I just go in my life just change my mood and I'll go as Joining me to write of like I feel so strong just looking at that so it's really amazing that. Iraq is I cast my arena stay tuned outlook will be back in a minute with Mall remarkable stories. This is the b.b.c. World Service where every month world questions comes from a different country debate on agreement and discussion in which our larger audience World Service dot com. Still to come on Outlook the gun a and musician who sold just a handful of copies of his album in the 1990 s. But he suddenly found fame after a student picked up an old tape on a market stall. I mean I know what I'm doing because this is what I wanted to do and we're back in if you need to do it and saw a nonliving of it I'm Ok with. The full story coming up. 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B.b.c. News. Hello I'm Joe and you're tuned to Outlook what music were you listening to in the mid 1990 s. Well whatever it was it probably wasn't there. That's gone and musician at a CAC with the album he released in 1994 when he was living in Canada he sold just a handful of copies and a disappointed man he got on with the rest of his life doing odd jobs here and then until years later an American student called brine shrimp of it found a cassette in Ghana and liked what he heard he wrote about it on a blog and brought the music to a whole new audience and at a cack real name you Atta who is now touring the world playing his music. I like what I'm doing because this is what I need to do you need to do. Live in it I'm Ok with. Growing up in Ghana was this your plan did you want to be in you know and never thought about it with me or an african for that matter. To Drammen more than you. Already like it is and you're back in Ghana room enough to play on. It With You know because it's acting candle I think a little warning to you nearly to. The rhythm of you know that the reality nobody told me out of. Did you ever get to go as a child on a real drum you know. But that lack of experience didn't stop Assoc out from joining a band when he moved to Germany as a young man it all started with a chance encounter at the post office somebody tapped my shoulder I looked at him and he was a thought I was doing yeah yeah me if I were a musician. And I don't know why I lie to this guy. I said yes then he was so excited and I like that. You know that I was lying to him so he has me what kind of instrument I play and I thought the Grahams and had never played it before he said Ok we have a group looking for a grammar so I said well I'm not a joint so we exchange numbers but I got time I was shooting the movie in me because I was lying so I came back home and I called my best Mary I'm sorry I'm not something today I don't know why did. She was very angry as a door stop it telling the truth as a not outright. And so we haven't done it too but then I got some reggae and I just sat and listened to regularly I was sick. To remember specifically what you were listening to I was this is too much. So I was something like big and didn't the table. Assuming we're on what I was hearing I did that and occasionally my wife would come and say stop it you always do your time you can do what I said I would do it. How long did you have to do it and I did a 4 or 5 days or so 5 days to teach yourself to the drums Yes on the dining room table. So I had no choice so what happened when you went to the 1st family sick I came and my wife they don't know I said I'll go but this was actually the 1st time you and I had done Styx recently how did it go it wasn't easy when I did what I could do did they realize that you move on to maybe for Not Ready made you mention often I had to think I from the band ever explain why he doest you to be in a band a complete stranger. And you never asked No you just got on with it. How long did it take you. And you know to feel confident as a drummer It was I was 1st 2 weeks I was very comfortable that was when I had the courage to ask what is the lead vocalist then again you're still trying to get one I said Ok I mean well why don't you let me try to give me the microphone then this is not going to get us into so get me to my groove when you took a while before somebody could get to the microphone. And while we were singing the song for Melissa. And John. And they gave it is up. I became a single. So as a drummer and the lead singer at the same time what did your wife make of this transformation preist she couldn't believe her eyes. So she forgave you for life oh yes it was. A few years later and attack and his family left Germany to Canada where he joined another band that was inspired by this kind of music called High Life which was very popular back home and gone a bit messed popular with and. I was Ok with it until I got fed up with it. If you're young you always want to be the best and so I said if I continue to play high life I've been nobody and the same with the radio I can never play in radio like what Miley and the rest so I tried funk then I said no don't work that was what I realized I had to do something different the. Other time I used to lose the do like I used to go under. The b.d.s. . I love to be. You see and that's. And I love yes on the old boy. And I will listen to rap I just like I would almost blush like trying to make some African musicians and so I said Ok I know a little bit of rigging a little bit of high life I want to do it in a way I know a little bit of funk and so I don't have as what I. Wanted to record his own stuff but couldn't afford studio time sound with money from his job as a cleaner I'm downloading from his wife he bought some secondhand equipment and he didn't know how to use it so he found a man with a studio. And a wife. I want you and I said I want to come and recorder you it was exciting and so while I was talking to the guy I had no camera I would look better on paper but my nick you nice I was looking at things yes I asked him how do you get this done on computers and the ghost kind because you know that would not know what So it was the middle of blah blah blah blah blah blah but I was watching everything. Free license your free lesson. Finally he could get on with recording his own tracks and what language. How discussion with my wife what I should sing it in English I said it hey you're the boss so. I switched to my language I had never heard about Iraq any tree when I finally had it it was slow and as a note I've heard many musicians. Just I'm going to try to make it a level faster and what my dialect is going to be a little bit about what I write in the ears of people who work and that's what I do . It's about my relationship with my wife because I've been with my Welsh since 1906 invested together and that is why I wrote about so much is an ideal woman. I know. What are the lyrics say. And I do much. You read me happy with her joy to know where I will be when she touched very proud yet great that. It's about an ideal woman and how she released. Her pride in what she did. Was an ideal man do I do my own of course also. With the family and that's what I've been doing I think if my wife were a musician I'm sure he's you read and I remember really early. But. I can't now had an album but needed help to get it out there he sent a copy to his brother in Ghana he would offer to do the marketing. He didn't know enough about this to really knew nothing about music I mean I don't know why you're under the rings here in the 1st place. So what happened to that tape oh well he says do some guy's. C.D.'s and you missed m s s I don't know how he distributed them I don't know what happened there because he didn't tell me until I left Canada for Ghana and how many how many do you think you did sell. Sure the reports always say 3 is it not actually 3 but you go and I was there are 3 about it could be more just a rough figure yet Rafi you're not many that was that not many air. The dream was over scroll forward several years to 2002 when American student Brian chimp of it stopped at a store in Cape Coast in Ghana and made a chance discovery. That picked up the tape because it looks distinctive it's got a colorful cover and there's a picture of this guy with the sunglasses on his got a microphone so I grabbed it. Brian like 20 hertz and decided to try to track down attic he didn't have much to go on and it would take him yes there's not much information on the inside of the cassette it's pretty you know just a p.r. Box and Kumasi and a phone number it was sort of this ongoing process of trying to search deep in Google and call lots of people that I knew in Garner and also ask where I'm going and so I let along the way and then also kind of going to places where I thought that he might have been eventually going to Toronto and tracking down his son who gave me the Cox phone number who Then I called. Was leaving and going to. One of the room and I had a call hello hello good afternoon. Hi How are you you don't know me but somebody said I don't exist at The only as a as Mendoza line is that my name is Brian Brian I've never met anybody by any and I'm a huge huge fan of your music and I've been looking around for years thank you for lacking but I like you for me. That was a crazy conversation speaking with him for the 1st time it was so exciting it was like so I guess inspiring because here's this guy who's just very happy and very friendly and not somebody from the other side of the earth who he doesn't know has been kind of looking for him in a rather obsessive kind of way I could ask him questions and he said yes I have been all over our came to Canada I came to Germany looking for oil I came to Ghana looking for oil Brian explained what he wanted to license the tape for reissue I never thought in a 1000000 years that I would get somebody who would be interested in this music I explained everything to me after the phone call and she was so excited that finally of the so many years we have the back of. The little one I realize that people are interested in my son what about me after I got least I don't something that some people want as well in video so schoolchildren in Sweden yes we didn't send you my son's 1st so good. Some Chinese people in the class doesn't do my songs as a this is good enough after so many years now it's coming back to me how he ask I was born in the thing 60. 57 Exactly and you've just started touring for the 1st time in your life as of last year it was so good every time I'm singing and I feel like I'm 20 something what an amazing turn your life has taken is good because I know I got the privilege of meeting different people enjoying different cultures. You really rediscovered Gunday an artist Atika. Now let's talk about hair Giuliana Kisumu has thought a lot about it because of her complex feelings about her own hair she's British Nigerian and a photographer who's been working on a series of images of young black women and girls with natural rather than relaxed or straightened hair she's called it next generation next generation was basically based on the idea or rather my childhood memory of we have in my head relaxed it was just easier to a lecture kind of going to the head just as being told my hair was too tough and my mum feeling like whoa you know. That's relax it was probably accidents of how I had had a black for my hasn't aged about 7 because when I was younger I hate my I hate the texture of it and I felt like it wasn't attractive and so it wasn't until 181819 that I them saw my natural texture again the reasons for relaxing Your him the 1st place was the idea of passing y. And being as close to European as possible I think a lot of people don't kind of have the understanding for it's. Beginnings and the reason why it's such a popular thing to do I felt. That I had. Missed out on some think I had not knowing the information prior to that moment but also I felt like it was it became my duty to keep the research going because it wasn't just me who didn't know all this kind of this context of Blackhead it was also my friends it was my family Giuliana got interested in a style traditional to the yard people with head wrapped into thin tight strands creating interlocking shapes that used to have real significance before Christmas ation would represent what tribe some belong to or what family they belong to or you know if you were in this particular star when praying to your dieties you know it would send they they believe that it was an messages to their gods now one of the series that they're very much focused on have fretting and will kick will be in the your top from your bedtime forehead reading and it is this method of using threads literally and wrapping around the head when I was younger I was so what it has that was again I hate it because of the hassles being so. Of God I would say even and so it was again a very personal response to to the research that I had uncovered she photographed those styles to you can see some of her photos on her Facebook page I've seen women or met women who have seen the series and how that has star and just kind of walking around going to work with your arms I think that that was a very beautiful thing to see too just knowing that this series has inspired women to to to try to Head Start again you know women who have worn it growing up and doing their childhood and then thinking Ok You know actually yeah I can I can wear it again and I'm going to be proud of it the politics of black hair is often unintended you know just how can me wearing my hair in its natural state quote so much controversy at times debate and I think understanding and have been the taking the time to research and understand why that is is something that in order for me to take in the world owners in order for me to understand why people do things they do I have to go back. And I understand all these histories and so as I'm learning and as I'm finding these things out and as I'm researching I have that and share that because it's not just it's not just me that could benefit from this knowledge British Nigerian photographer Giuliana can see me now personal history feature witness today Simon Watts is looking back at an assassination attempt which sent shock waves through the 1972 American presidential election campaign I give to you cannot. The governor of Alabama Georgia one. It's the spring of 1972 and $1.00 of the most controversial politicians in the United States is running for the White House. Thank you very much it's good to be back in Dallas thank you didn't give you news men who were here by getting them all receptions like this I might just get in politics you've been there I think George Wallace was a populist known for his charm and his far we are a tree a Southern Democrat his critics regarded him as a racist but his supporters love the way he claimed to champion the ordinary man and the traditional American way of life I kid you he's responsible for the breakdown of law and order it's a very few people and I'm not talking about race the overwhelming majority of citizens blank white bread and yellow in this country any other race are a good system breakdown of law and order just the same as those of us who are similar here tonight those who bring about the breakdown of the oto a militant activist revolutionary anarchism calling it is a truth brings about the breakdown was. George Wallace his son George Wallace Jr wept on his father's campaign the momentum we had at the time was what George Bush Sr used to call big momentum big mo it was there the rallies there were 2530000. Coming to the rallies he was several 100 delegates are here in the delegate count he was on the move and on the March and I don't think he could have been stopped in the other way than the way he was stopped on May the 15th $972.00 Governor Wallace addressed a rally outside a shopping mall in Laurel Maryland in the crowd was a white truck driver called off Abram a a troubled young man apparently obsessed with becoming famous when he finished the speech he went out into the crowd and it was a friendly crowd the Secret Service had ask him not to and he said I'll take responsibility as he took off his coat and started shaking hands as he always loved to do Arthur Bremmer came out from I think 3 rows back and shot him 5 times. As a bullet struck him he realized he'd been hit and hit bad when he hit the ground he told me later he said I turned my head to the left and kept my eyes closed for about 20 seconds to make a possible 2nd gunman think that I was dead he had the presence of mind to know he needed to be still and he he was amid the chaos the governor's wife threw herself on top of her husband to protect him as the crowd helped troopers tackle off the Bremmer Wallace himself remained alert even sharing the quip with one of his security team but actually the Secret Service agent. Leaning over him and he was kneeling down in the Secret Service agent had a gun in his hand and it was resting across his knee and the barrel was pointing at my father inadvertently by the Secret Service agent and my father looked looked at him and pushed the gun away and he said I wish you wouldn't point that at me I've been shot enough for one day so he still have a sense of humor about himself even at that moment but on the way to hospital the pain began to overwhelm Governor Wallace he would spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair. We walked in the recovery room and he was covered with a sheet in part of the sheet had come down from his chest and his chest and abdomen area looked like a road map they had done exploratory surgery and his room was so severe he he looked like a man to me who had been at death's door it was a look in his eyes I had never seen so I think he understood as many don't the sanctity and how fragile life is how your father being worried about his safety before the attack I don't know that worries a word he was aware of how volatile he was and what a lightning rod he was and he told me later that he always thought and Sas nation attempt might be made on him but he thought he would receive a head wound and from there he never imagined being paralyzed in constant chronic pain until the day he died and do you think the attack changed him was he a different man afterwards I know it affected him certainly spiritually and and I think it caused him a deeper reflection about himself and his life his past his present and future and he came to terms with a lot of things he forgave the man who shot him he realized that he had been a position where others had been harmed by some of his public rhetoric so he worked to get things right George Wallace a become a national figure in the 1960 s. He was the governor of Alabama at the height of the civil rights struggle and openly supported segregation which kept the white and black communities in the American south apart I'd rather live in the God and pass the farm and the further you got here and there and I say that there was harder there from the mire of their education. It was Alabama state troopers who beat up black protesters at the famous March in Selma and it was Wallace himself who on one of tourists occasion stood at the entrance of the state university and tried to stop a court order to allow the 1st black students in he was raised as a child to believe that segregation was in the best interest of both races. And they believe that he told me that anything other than segregation would bring about adverse relations between the races but in terms of politically in the era that was the issue there was no middle ground in the south in terms of politics if you were running for political office that was the position you had to take in he wanted to be elected governor but as time passed his conscience told him he had been wrong about that after his presidential bid was cut short George Wallace continued to serve as governor of Alabama in his later career he apologized frequently to the black community and on one occasion he paid a symbolic visit to the church where Martin Luther King had once preached he visited Dr King's church 11 Sunday evening during the service and announce he just left office in 1979 and had no political plans I don't think he thought he was going to run again although he did $92.00 in one but his conscience took him to Dr King church and he went in they rolled him in and he told them that he'd been a product of believing in segregation but he'd come to realize his conscience had led him to realize that he had been wrong and he said all I could do there for your forgiveness and it was freely given to him because they knew he was sincere he had suffered and he knew that the black community had suffered and he knew that he had been a part of that. That bothered him deeply and when George Wallace finally retired from Alabama politics in 186 he was overcome by emotion. I feel I must say that I've planned my life as political but there are still some personal. My fellow I love I mean I bid you go far enough thank you Brian well. From. George Wallace died in 998 at the end of his life he was comforted in hospital not only my His own family but by a trooper from the now integrated Alabama police force legislature had passed legislation that he should have say trooper protection until the day he died which he did but this was uniformed trooper who was sitting in my father's room actually the day before he died and they had was telling me I want to go home I want to go home I think he had a inclination that he was close to death and he held a state trooper's hands he was a black man and I saw him not long ago in wonderful men and he said we'll be going home soon governor will be going home soon and he consoled my father in a way that was wonderful and real and genuine and I'll always love him for that. George Wallace Jr And in that report by Simon Watt and that's it from outlook for today from me Joe for all of us on the team thanks for listening to see you here same time tomorrow. Before the news here in the b.b.c. 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