processing points in places like pakistan. today the armed forces minister said that those land routes were not currently a safe route of passage but as the prime minister has said, he is hoping and expecting that the taliban will provide safe passage for people through land routes or trying to keep the international airport open themselves. the problem with s which has been stressed by the chair of the defence committee is that if the taliban do not approve those land routes and if that is not being community gates to people on the ground, we see large amounts of people putting themselves in harms way making their way to land routes and finding they are not able to board some of the flights that are leaving. let's talk to dominik stillhart who is director of operations for the international committee of the red cross. i wonder what response you have to do is warning from the uk, the us