repeatedly in this debate, the opposition and the shadow chancellor have ducked the fundamental question, what is the opposition's alternative plan? the reality is, in response to an intervention from one of my colleagues, the shadow chancellor, when asked why labour had supported an increase in ni chancellor, when asked why labour had supported an increase in n! in 2003 said, well, we had a plan. i humbly remind her that was 18 years ago, and what we need to see now is ago, and what we need to see now is a plan from the opposition. i give way to the honourable gentleman. he and i have known each other for a very— and i have known each other for a very long — and i have known each other for a very long time. ijust hope you could — very long time. ijust hope you could explain to my constituents why it is right _ could explain to my constituents why it is right that practically everybody in the rondo would have to sell their— everybody in the rondo would have to sell their home to meet the £86,000. -- rhondda~ _ sell their home to meet the £86,000. —— rhondda. where is next to nobody would _ —— rhondda. where is next to nobody would have _ —— rhondda. where is next to nobody would have to do so in his constituency.— would have to do so in his constituen . . , constituency. firstly, the right